Been thinking about Getting into Warhammer 40,000. Which race would be best to start with?
Squats.
>>44139874
Whichever one you like best.
>>44139874
The one you think is the coolest ON THE TABLE. No point playing a cool sounding race if their models and rules are totally different.
Sigmarines because everything is marines now
What are you a fan of? Large hordes? Heavy Ranged Firepower? Heavy melee firepower? Stealth? Hit n run? Chaos?
>>44139874
about to go play a game with my buddies, they rock Eldar, orcs, tau, all filthy xeno scum. dubs decides what I put into my 1500 pt list to destroy these heretics
>>44139956
But how can we make Sigmarines MORE marine-like?
>>44139994
Devastator Centurions
>>44139994
Two Tau'nars.
>>44139994
khador
>>44139997
Have an Age of Sigmar equivalent of the Horus Heresy
>>44139997
bigger fists, backpacks and more gay.
>>44139874
I'd second >>44139930
Nothing worse than wanting to build a hyper-adaptive Tyranid army, opening the codex, and realizing they have leas Wargear options than the Mass-production based Tau
>>44139991
I'd say I'd want a rush army, that doesn't have complex assaults, but does what it can to use large numbers to crash through the enemy's ranks.
>>44140132
Orks, Dark Eldar, or Tyranids. Be careful with 'Nids though, I heard the new codex was "Meh".
>>44140011
>implying
>>44140010
I have to go now so this will have to do. Centurions it is.
>>44140132
Playing a rush army requires skill. Though if you don't mind Space Marines, I highly recommend making a White Scars Scarblade Strike Force. Almost everyone's in a bike or a Landspeederr with fast paced gameplay.
Otherwise >>44140212 but these armies are much harder to play.
>>44140132
Orks do numbers well, while Dark Eldar have speed. Space Marines and normal Eldar can also do assault fairly well, but lack numbers compared to the other two.
Go onto 1d4chan, and look up Warhammer Tactics. Obviously it can't say everything, but it's a decent guide to how stuff performs, and how to make it perform better.
>>44139874
Remember how the ten Ravnica guilds were anthropomorphized? That needs to happen here too.
>>44139874
What should i get to start out with orks?
>>44140212
>>44140282
If he wants to rush a horde and go orks, bikes are probably the best bet. Green tide is cool but not for someone just starting
>>44140337
I don't think that's what that word means
>>44140361
Alright, converted into fab-bait.
>>44139874
Space Marines, Eldar, Tau, or Necrons. Admech is okay if you don't mind having essentially half a faction. Daemons are okay if you're fine with the army randomly shitting itself being considered a design feature. AM are okay.
Avoid Tyranids, Orks, Chaos Marines, Sisters of Battle.
>>44140351
Bikes.
Which army has the best terminators?
Which army has the easiest to paint (least detailed)?
>>44140448
>Which army has the best terminators?
Space Marine Devastator Centurions are the best Terminator equivalent units. Them with a Grav Cannon is among the most undercosted things in 40k.
>Which army has the easiest to paint (least detailed)?
Necrons (no shit)
>>44140511
Sorry, should clarify: I meant easiest terminators to paint.
>>44140555
Necrons stuff. Unless you mean actual Space Marine Terminators then standard ones.
>>44140361
>>44140380
I think it's "personified" when you turn a non-human into a human.
>>44140589
Yeah, I meant actual space marine terminators. I had hoped context would have made that clear. So, vanilla terminators? What chapter has the easiest paint scheme in your opinion? Black and white are a bastard to paint in my opinion, as are yellow and red. Salamanders, maybe? Or Ultras?
>>44140511
Centurions aren't TEQ you moron. TEQ means T4 W1.
>>44140647
Best terminators are Grey Knights.
Strongest terminators are Deathwing.
Best melee terminators are vanilla TH/SS with good Chapter Tactics.
Easiest to paint are GK, Raven Guard, or Iron Hands.
>>44140666
They are essentially there to replace terminators they are superior.
>>44140647
Raven Guard. Pre Heresy Word Bearers
>>44140279
Dark Angels have good bike units as well. Along with a hero that allows an army of them.
>>44139874
Space Marines. On top of being the posterchild of the setting, they're extremely forgiving for new players. Here's their pros and cons:
> Forgiving of mistakes, high stats and good armor means you can make mistakes on the table and not automatically lose because of it.
> Easy to paint: Large flat surfaces everywhere, and heraldry is easy to do. Just look up some chapters and find your favorite color set.
> Easy to learn, lots of room to master
> Decently powerful.
> Competitive
Cons:
> Extremely common
> Low model count.
> Eldar are your Kryptonite. Don't expect to ever win against them.
>>44140770
Losing to Eldar is a con for EVERY army. Even Eldar.
>>44140722
That's why they're not a terminator equivalent. Superior is the exact opposite of equivalent. Just like you don't call MEQ a terminator equivalent because terminators are superior MEQ, and you don't call TEQ a marine equivalent because terminators are superior and replace marines.
>>44140860
Their bullshit really hits space marines and all the other MEQ armies harder than anyone else. Seeing as they have completely obscene levels of anti-MEQ weapons, and ready access to it.
>>44140886
True good point.
I'm also looking to jump into 40k and I'd like to play a fast, melee army. I'd imagine Slaanesh Daemons would be the closest fit, but how do they fare in games around 500 or 750 points?
Necrons if you want to rape everything and be nearly unkillable
>>44139956
At what point to we stop calling it a dead horse and you are just beating a pile of mush? I don't know the exact point, but it was a long time before you made this comment.
>>44140860
>an army so powerful you can't even beat them with themselves!
>>44140337
The word you're looking for is 'waifu'd'
Also, who else would crowdfund an anime series with these bestgirls?
Simic-chan best girl
>>44139994
imperial guard with space marine allies.
a few leman russ, a few squads of guard in chimeras, and a stormraven full of marines with a librarian.
>>44140132
rush army = orks
unless you mean super speedy crazy speed machines, then you mean dark eldar.
dont play tyranids unless you really like them for some reason you masochist.
>>44139874
>Been thinking about Getting into Warhammer
>>44140860
dark eldar doesnt have it too bad, if they run only tanks you can thermal lance the shit out of them on the first turn, and if for some reason johnny eldar does a bio heavy army you go for all the sweet poison weapons.
really though, you tailor your list against the eldar players, its the only way.
>>44145163
>Simic best
You lack justice
>>44140706
Best melee is actually a choice between Deathwing Knights and Grey Knights Paladins. Deathwing Knights can get pretty fucking murderous if they manage to make it to melee- 1+ toughness to the entire unit for retaining coherency, able to strike at 2x S AP2 hits at I is pretty fucking good for melee and fucks shit up, even more if you add a Chaplain, Belial, or Librarian.
Grey Knights though are probably the best melee termies hands down due to psyker bullshit.
>>44140279
Dark Angels are better with the new codex than White Scars. White Scars don't get 2++/3++ jinks.
>>44139874
ORKS.
ok so i was going to start with SoB. Do they have any units that are really good to the point of auto includes like the tyranid flygrant
>>44139874
SpaceMarines
Then Astra Militarum
Then Admech
Then Skitarii
and then you go for Imp. Knights
Or you could just go the quick rout and go Knights right away and been known as Sir.Dickbaggins!
>>44148719
>being this much of a slave to the Imperium
>>44139874
>Been thinking about Getting into Warhammer 40,000
I hope you like being poor, anon.
>>44139874
inquisition /= sister of battle
>>44148125
I'm no expert, but...sisters are a dead army, far as I'm aware. We've been waiting for new models for...over a decade now? They are clunky at best, and by far the most expensive army to buy, if you're actually serious, I don't even know tactics for them, but power to you if you risk it.
>>44139874
Pick the army you thinks looks the best and has most appealing fluff, alternatively check out playstyles and which one seems cool to you
All 40k factions are pretty interesting/ cool... except tau
>>44148125
Sisters have decently good rules, they just lack a lot of variety
Also, their models are decades old, metal, and expensive, so you're probably going to want to find somewhere else to get models.
>>44149474
Nobody cares about your dead meme army.
>>44146080
>stop liking what i dont like
>>44139997
Make them Aquatic.
>>44153194
ey fuck you mang
>>44149474
Sisters are't squated yet?
>>44153769
clearly not what he means
