I really hope they fired this artist how unprofessional of them at least they fixed it
>>44124997
How'd they fix it?
>>44125017
Different art on newer cards
>>44124997
I'm so sorry you don't have a period or enter key on your keyboard it must be terrible having to type out everything as a single monotonous paragraph
Why is it unprofessional?
>>44124997
Photo ref is pretty normal. The artist still needs to be skilled to make the finished drawing work.
>>44125034
If you are getting paid you should not be tracing musicians faces
>>44125033
Im on a phone jackass and i turned off anything "auto"
>>44125048
If you're getting paid, then you should probably keep doing it.
>>44125056
so then nothing is standing between us and you typing like a dipshit
Exalted fan here
If this is the biggest art controversy you faggots have I envy you.
>>44125048
Inspiration/homage/tribute/Easter egg
I see no problem with it. In fact, I like it more now knowing this.
>>44125058
You should be making original art instead of being a parasite
>>44125073
Are you one of those weirdos who worship yolandi?
>>44125056
What the fuck kind of phone keyboard has a quotation mark key but not a period key?
>>44125075
To say there is nothing artistic about the card art because of the face shows you know nothing of art.
>>44125091
Its a phone its not meant for proper typing its meant for quick and no i dont use swype either
>>44125048
So what? If the people like it there's nothing wrong with that
Sounds like a nice little thing for the musician
>>44125089
Straw-man argument.
>>44125075
I would argue that it is still original art. Working from 2D reference instead life is not fundamentally different. Freehand drawing feels a lot like tracing anyway, when it's done carefully.
Hell, Degas used photos.
>>44125107
Said musician probably doesnt even know of it
>>44125110
Im asking an honest question nothing wrong with being a weirdo
>>44125071
I... what am I looking at here? Because all I can think of is shitty 3D rendergiantessporn.
>>44125116
They have a lot of fans, chances are that it popped up on their social media somewhere
and even if they don't, who cares?
>>44125142
Well uh i uh kind of want to see yolandi cosplay it now
>>44124997
Where is this from? I see nothing wrong with it; most artist must cut corners to make a living and using some reference photos is normal.
He's probably just overworked, like yolandi too much and thought it would be a fun easteregg during a nicotine and caffeine induced stresscoma.
>>44125048
Yeah... because when you've traced the face the picture is complete! No more work needed!
>>44124997
yolandi already has a weird ass elf face.
Art guy here, there is a particular etiquette an artist should follow when it comes to photo references
>>44125038
Is an example of proper use of photo references. An artist grabs someone they know or pays a model to pose for them. Those photos are the property of the artist who then uses his property as source material for his paid work.
>>44124997
Now if you just take a random photo of someone else and use that photo for your paid work. That's not cool, because 1. you're making money off of someone else's likeness and 2. you're making money off of someone else's photography, neither of which probably gave you permission to use.
Now to call into question the artistic skill, considering the two examples seen, there is a severe difference in technology. Although theYolandi Nissa artist demonstrates skill in their rendering, it's pretty hackish to just trace something, ESPECIALLY a photo that you DO NOT OWN, in photoshop.
>>44125034
The artist used the person as their model without permission.
>>44125038
Yes, but typically when its done by a professional, the models are paid, or at least permission is asked before using their likeness as a reference.
>>44125272
I think its cute
>>44125292
>1. you're making money off of someone else's likeness and 2. you're making money off of someone else's photography, neither of which probably gave you permission to use.
Is this confirmed? Anyway I'm not an expert at copyright law or anything like that but i think the original photographer would have a hard time claiming any rights. His picture is only the basis for another artwork and has been transformed quite a lot. Yolandi might have a better chance to sue but I doubt her stage persona would look good afterwards.
>>44125336
Yolandi is the stage persona her real name is anri du toit
>>44124997
I do agree that it was an unprofessional choice, but I don't think its an offense worth being fired over. Especially if s/he doesn't do it again.
>>44125374
Unprofessional or not is irrelevant, it's illegal.
>>44125336
Honestly, I don't know if the artist received any permissions. If he had, that's totally cool and legal!
If he hadn't, that's totally not cool and could lead to litigation, but it's a piece of paper, so who really gives a shit about suing over it?
We could get indepth about photographer's rights, but depending on the nature of the work it could be some other entity's rights.
>>44125356
Yeah I know that but Die Antwoords entire thing is that their stage personas are hard to differentiate from who they are in real life. Their entire career has been spent playing the characters of Ninja and Yolandi. Yolandi suing, unless they do it in some provocative or over the top way, would not fit in with those personas damaging their brand. And since the artwork has been replaced she stands little to gain from suing except a bit more money.
>>44125402
Honestly yolandi would probably just laugh an move on she is a pretty laid back person
>>44125382
Ha Ha! If only.
>>44125382
That's the thing with copyright laws, it's not explicitly illegal unless it's the exact same thing. For this to be deemed a violation of copyright law it would first have to be taken to court.
>>44125407
>Their entire career has been spent playing the characters of Ninja and Yolandi
"Ninja" has had a few personas, actually.
The Ninja character is even a persona within a persona.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8szZ_WBdqE
>>44125421
Amendment: Copyright laws involving art: music, photos, drawings, etc.
>>44125407
>their entire career
As die antwoord maybe but they have both been things before this though it seems always together at least yolandi has never done anything solo
Did some fast digging and the artist is Peter Mohrbacher and the card is still featured on their homepage.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=383328
http://magic.wizards.com/en/story/planeswalkers/nissa-revane
The artist seems to be doing just fine...
http://www.vandalhigh.com/
>>44125292
>1. you're making money off of someone else's likeness
So?
> 2. you're making money off of someone else's photography, neither of which probably gave you permission to use.
She's a music star, she's about as publically available as it gets so a privacy isn't really an issue and other reason is mehish at best
>>44125449
I know.
>>44125444
Yeah it gets really fucking confusing after a while. I still remember when I first saw Zef Side (with the interview) and tried to figure out if these guys were serious or not... Great band
>anybody here thinking yolandi would care
faggots
>>44125419
>Beat me to it
I do find his repeated use of porn orgasm faces and poses entertaining.
>>44125477
>giving a shit about die antwoord to begin with
no anon, you are the faggots
>>44125465
Under EU law, someone depicted as the subject of a photo holds rights to it by default
>>44125465
Photographers own their photos, and actors/models do have rights over the use of their image. People using them without permission or copying them for profit can be asked to stop. Fair use laws extend to parody and review, either would be difficult to argue here.
But it's a civil case that has to be brought by the copyright holder and most probably can't be bothered because it's such small potatoes it's just not worth it at all.
It you started copying photos of models and actresses to draw something very unpleasant, say a comic where they are abusing children or something then action likely would be taken because actors, models and professional photographers don't like their work or face being associated with that incase the public thing they they gave permission or support it.
>>44125104
Posting from my phone now. Still able to type with proper grammar and punctuation.
It's not hard to not type like a retard.
>>44125691
>now. Still
This is not proper grammar and punctuation.
>>44125705
Yes it is.
>>44125485
this desu senpai
die antwoord is shit-tier for people who want to seem edgy
>>44124997
He face makes want to puke
>>44126342
you have good taste
unlike die antwoord fans
>>44125705
it is tho
>>44125126
official art for the corebook, after a kickstarter that included a stretchgoal for better art.
And this is what we got.Well, to be fair, I think they're actually changing that shit after widespread backlash, but still.
>>44125691
I dont care whats not to undersfand?
autism
>>44124997
that nissa arm seems off
>>44125038
1. Models are paid for their photo reference work. If you take the photos, and use them for reference, you own it all.
2. If you grab a photo from the Internet, and don't own the copyright to it, any work of art made from it is derivative, and the original photographer can sue. They can wind up with it all.
>>44125336
What is Derivative Works?
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-are-derivative-works-under-copyright-law
>>44125029
Where's this new art?
>>44127120
Not better art.
More art.
>>44127390
>Derivative
I think, not really.
The picture is original enough to be considered a new piece.
The artist portreat isnt named and only have a likeness. If the artist can show its degrading her or clearly used as "hey this picture is her" than she might can sue.
The photo artist cant sue him, because its no music cover. Its heavily altered and dont compete with his work.
Only if the artist can verify that this hurt him, its a clear reproduction the judge might agree with him.
But since its just likeness, its fantasy and heavily added things, you can say its an original piece.
>>44128153
>The picture is original enough to be considered a new piece.
Oh, here we go again. As always /tg/ pretends it's an authority in on any kind of arts and crafts.
>>44128200
>an authority
As you are an authority in reading comprehension skills.
Noone said "authority"
Its just discussion. Some believe its more of a reproduction. Others its original enough.
>>44124997
>>44125048
>>44125075
>>44125292
Artists pull random references off the internet every second of every day.
It shouldn't come to a surprise to anyone that most artists don't actually use models or have some kind of random stock photo website pro account.
You want to paint a cat? You literally google cat and pick a few that seems nice. Some times you make a collage of several different images just to play with different ideas in an easier way than painting several paintings. Some times you use a photo and you warp it or edit it before you use it as a reference or paint over it.
The only thing that's exceptional in this case is that he used a very recognizable photo of someone famous, which is kind of asking for it.
All the talk about faking, cheating or being unproffessional is bullshit, most artist simply don't have enough incentive to care about that stuff because it cuts down on productivity. Most clients really only care about how fast you can possibly produce it while still making it look decent, if you play magic you already own a quadrillion cards that have elements that were created with the help of photos and images that the artist didn't own the rights to.
Is that bad? Probably, but if you play magic you're the guy who's funding it. If you like the sausage it's not always a good idea to look into how it's made.
>>44125038
2D qt3.14's confirmed superior to 3D whores.
Digital art is shit.
>>44125705
lolwut
>>44128555
>artists steal all the time
Gotcha, I'll keep an eye on the one in my group. I thought my dice bag was getting lighter.
>>44128555
i agree with you completly.
Copyright is rather foggy and depends mostly on how good you can formulate how this threatend you or how far its a reproduction or theft.
>>44124997
Different hair, tattoos, eye color, skin color, ears, clothes, etc...
I don't know, only similarities seem to be face structure and pose. Seems like it'd be hard to argue that it isn't an "original" work. Definitely should have tweeted at Yolandi and thanked her for the inspiration.
>>44124997
>I most likely own several items that were manufactured with the help of borderline slave labour, but what really grinds my gears is that someone took a famous person's face, altered it, and used it in an illustration for a children's card game.
Too much spare time, not enough life: The thread.
>>44128617
Well, for average artist the only way to make living is either petty crime or commissions of furry porn.
>>44124997
Oh this could be fun! Someone find the original picture and we can alter it enough until everyone agrees it is a new creative work.
I like to see where people draw the line.
And more photoshopped Yolandi.
>>44125705
Is this some obscure English rule no one else cares about?
>>44125104
You're using a phone wrong.
>>44124997
My question is why did he keep her stupid fucking haircut! that's what gives it away that hes a hack, he could have done different hair.
Shit Ive made collages for my photo references for character art. Im not getting paid for it, but grabbing Hair from this pick jacket from that one. Lots of photographers are hacks as well and you can find lots of images of different looks and settings in the exact same pose.
>>44128781
>complaining about nerds having too much time in a saturday morning
Too much spare time, not enough life: The post
but this topic is about ethics in artistic references
>>44126280
I'd still ruin her.
>>44128846
Its all relative. So it could be fun to argue and see who draws the line where.
But it would be unending i guess, since noone could be wrong, just relative.
>>44129519
>>44129392
>>44128776
>>44128617
>>44128596
He used her face as a reference, wizards did not in any way market the card by using her name, and it's only recognizable in the sense that someone who's a nerd for magic and shitty music will catch where it's from. Even then that csi proof pic shows that A: he fucking changed her profile to look like less of a rat mixed with a 15 year old boy, and B: the artwork is barely visible in the pic to the left to make it look even worse than it is.
His worst crime is that he sat down to paint a hot elf and Yolandi popped into his head, that's the real tragedy here.
>>44124997
Most artists use photo reference and even paint overs, what sort of world do you live in where they wouldn't?
>>44129854
>>44124997
Welp. She was a white trash all along.
>>44129854
>having this much of an objectively shitty opinion about media
>caring about Die Antwood or the law
>not just caring that the art looks like total dogshit and off model for the character
>>44129854
>His worst crime is that he sat down to paint a hot elf and Yolandi popped into his head, that's the real tragedy here.
Fucking /thread right there
>>44125038
Those photos were made for the purpose of the finished product, you fucking ass. There's a world of difference.
>>44128200
I'm an art teacher. I am, by definition, an authority on arts and crafts.
>>44129854
I would totally fuck Yolandi.
>>44130787
That doesn't count, you would fuck anything that wiggles.
>>44125419
>>44125478
Oh my god. Bad photoshop and all.
>>44130846
Wrong. I think she has a fine body, I like freaky fashion and haircuts. I also want to know if she moans like she sings.
>>44125071
Truly terrible.
>>44130515
I second this.
>>44125126
>Because all I can think of is shitty 3D rendergiantessporn.
It's actually shitty 3D renderfutanariporn.
>>44131776
The best kind of 3D render porn.
>>44125038
Photo referencing isn't the same fucking thing as tracing. Half the fucking world recognised that Elf as a member of a crazy, South African music duo. There's way more difference between the photo's and drawings you posted, and they were made specifically for the purpose of being references, you ass.
Yeah, /tg/ gets pissy over all sorts of nonsense, but this being bad art isn't nonsense. It's bad art. And it's bad art because the "artist" copied a fucking photo like a photocopier, and didn't even have the goddamn common sense to NOT pick a picture of an internationally recognised artist.
The fucking stupidity is what I respect the least about this, really.
>>44125038
>right side always strictly superior
Photoshop of 1930's
>>44128200
Taking a picture yourself as reference and taking one from the internet are two different things. One should land you in trouble, but rarely does nowadays.
>>44125705
Two spaces after a period is no longer taught as a rule. This is because modern fonts space themselves, unlike typewriter fonts. Fuck people who only single space after a period though.
>>44125419
I'm kinda impressed by this. Dude could probably work with google or something and completely automate the process. Like a reverse process of http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/deepimagesent/
Just describe a scene in plain language and it would spit out an image that matches.
>>44125336
If the photographer registered his picture, then he can sue for statutory damages. The drawing based on the photo is what's called a Derivative Work, and is a form of infringement.
>>44124997
>He doesn't know how actual professionals pump out content in the real world.
>>44131943
>copied
>photocopier
That's not what that word means or that machine does
>>44132782
You can't sue someone because they used your picture as a reference photo. You also can't learn law on Wikipedia.
>>44131776
Got sauce on that?
>>44132478
I think he means the lack of a pronoun.
>>44132436
Because it's no big deal If you only does it once. If you do it several times with the same obective people will notice.
>>44135652
try asking /aco/
>>44135523
you can sue someone because they used your picture as a reference photo. Otherwise, Gene Simmon's son's comic would still be printed.
You can't learn law on Wikipedia, but you can in college, like I did.
The Associated Press got a piece of the merchandising of that Obama Hope image because the artist used their photo.
http://www.wired.com/2011/01/hope-image-flap/
While the artist wound up with a sizable chunk of his profits, no company want to risk any of their profits fighting copyright infringement lawsuits, or handing over sales and pulping remaining stock.
>>44135652
Exalted third edition corebook.
>>44130515
>>44131709
I third this.
>>44124997
For the sake of comparison, let's pull up the original photo
>>44138943
Unf!
>>44137686
But why is it futa?
>>44140443
Why wouldn't it be?
>>44138943
She looks like a squirrel.
Squirrel token.
>>44138943
>style icon
fuck this gay earth
>>44140895
>not finding that attractive
You're the gay one, fucboi.
>>44127120
It reminds me of the stuff in Hot Chicks.
>>44128593
>>44131987
I agree with this for all of them except the first photo. 3D has a much nicer butt and smile.
>>44141074
It'a kinda hard to beat nature at its own game.
>>44124997
I was pissed by the card artwork in that they turned my elven waifu whose card I once used to masturbate to into this disgusting piece of trash who looks like a nigger while still having white skin.
Like brown elf could have been a thing, but now she just looks fucking unnatural.
>>44140972
i used to fuck with a girl that looked like that (minus the stupid haircut) back in 07-08
she was a violent alcoholic and gave me VD for my troubles
still worth
>>44129911
there's a difference between a reference and straight up tracing, hoss
>>44138943
I see a probably-tiny, possibly buck-toothed albino with retard/OCD bangs (who's a rock star?) Welp, likely more fortunate than I ...
Not gonna lie though, she don't look like she'd give any fucks about her fursona appearing on some damn nerd card on some distant continent. Some hot-heads ITT might wanna calm down a little.
>>44124997
>people complaining about artist phtoto references "without permission"
Lol are you faggots serious? Like, are you fucking children? My god, why do people who don't know the first thing about law or industry need to feel important by taking strong yet ignorant stances about things like this?
Like, this isn't Naughty Dog using Ellen's Page's likeness to market The Last of Us. Come on, people.
>>44130939
Badly?
>>44125382
You're one of those deviantarts who think that using the pose from one of your works is "artthaeft" of your "donut steel".
>>44125419
Should have named it "grasping for straws.jpg" desu senpai. All of the ones that aren't obvious references only look the same because they're literally depicting the same character in a similar pose.
>hurr durr if I can overlap two images over each other that means they were traced
Actual artist working in the industry here, not posting details for obvious reasons, but almost all artists working for things like MTG trace. Most of them (myself included) are just smart enough to use reference they shot themselves instead of public domain images.
When you're getting work for MTG, there's no question you can draw. The only problem is that you're not creating a work of art when you're working for a client, you're creating a commercial product within budgets and deadlines.
It's much faster to simply trace references than it is to actually take the time to build forms by hand, and at the end of the day, the client doesn't care how you do it, as long as you deliver a painting for them.
The average MTG artist makes around 1-2k a painting, which sounds like a lot, but when it takes a month to do between working things out with the art director and revising submissions, that's 12-24k a year before taxes assuming you somehow get extremely lucky and get to do 12 cards a year. This means that we're looking to save time and cut corners wherever we can to take on more work to keep the lights on.
peter mohrbacher is a really good artist and generally does no so heavily reference.
Just a bad piece imo.
>>44144970
>minus the stupid haircut
Dropped.
>>44132478
>there are people who double space after a period
WHAT
>>44125075
is an artist not entitled to the sweat of his brow no says the dipshit on 4chan it belongs to me
>>44125058
Underated post.
>>44125075
NEETs are parasites, not people who are performing to expectation in a Capitalist market rewarding them for their labour.
>>44146127
At least you're proving those retards who told you that a STEM degree would be more useful wrong, huh anon?
>>44127120
Udon was voted to be the perfect choice for Exalted.
>>44124997
Well, he said he probably wasn't going to work with Wizards any more because the pay was too low, so...
>>44125071
ayy
>>44147165
step up senpai
>>44147125
And if they were going with a tracer, Genzoman is at least sorta thematic.
>>44146127
You say a month,but that's pretty generic,how much work per day would it take?would you be able to have a side job?a part time one?or at least would you be able to work on two art pieces together?
>>44147287
>Genzoman
Agreed. Also his art also fits in.
>>44128781
Hey look it's one of those faggots that has to try and derail literally every ethical discussion with the poor third world slave children. Fuck off with your guilt mongering bullshit.
>>44145260
Enough to at least take the opportunity if it would ever fall into my lap.
>>44147292
My last piece took me 113 hours according to ProcrastiTracker, with 17 hours spent talking to my current art director via email. That's 130 hours not including the time i took to set up to shoot reference. The entire process took me a little over two weeks, but that's because I rarely sleep (hence why I'm replying at 6am).
Something to keep in mind though is that my Procrastitracker doesn't count time if I've been idle for over 90 seconds, so time I've spent using the bathroom, eating, going through music playlists, daydreaming, etc. doesn't show up. What looks like just under a 10 hour a day actually closer to 16 hours.
If I worked a 40 hour work week like most normal human beings, it'd have taken me a little over five and a half weeks to complete. That's why I say the average painting takes about a month.
Some people do have jobs on the side, but these people are the ultra crazies, and I personally wouldn't be able to do it. Imagine if after coming home from your 'real job' you had to spend another 40 hours of your week on something that will only pay out around 1k when you're finished after a month. 1000 USD / 160 hours comes out to 6.25 USD an hour. At that point you might as well just work full time and drop art.
>>44147538
Thank you for this great answer
>>44147226
I was gonna post these atrocities, but you beat me to it. I never learned anything about that system. The art is that bad; I just deleted the pdf immediately. I take it as a testament to "try before you buy."
Huh, I'm actually kinda thankful for the Exalted 3e pdf now, at least it doesn't make the book itself unreadable.
>>44147988
You missed nothing. Mike himself describes CPv3 as a mad fever dream, poorly done and best forgotten.
Can't wait for 2077 redux rules.
>>44124997
Yo*vomits*landi?
>>44128200
You're likely to come across several in whatever the subject is on /tg/. Which, contrary to where you're positioned in your armchair, is a good thing.
>>44137357
But, worth noting, you can't actually learn law in college. You have to go to a university's law school for that.
So you're both wrong. Which is normal for legal debates.
>>44124997
Aren't most artists independent contractors? It's not so much that they would fire the artist, but simply stop working with the artist, right?
>>44147046
Haaaaah, I get it
>>44148700
Not him, but I had a few courses in law at my college that were related to my industry. So, you can definitely learn 'law' in college.
>>44132478
>>44146489
>be me
>be running newspaper
>be receiving submissions from people
>constantly having to "replace all" double-spacing with single spaces
>>44130662
>I'm an art teacher. I am, by definition, an authority on arts and crafts.
No, you're by definition someone who learned alot of technical stuff and never managed to turn that knowledge into fame, a fun job or wealth, and now your days consist of maintaining the misconception that you're sitting on important and rare information while holding the shittiest kind of job imaginable.
>>44131943
>>44132436
>>44128596
It's illustration you hippies, the process is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is communicating the subject matter in the intended manner.
"Art" communicates ideas and feelings, but illustration communicates it's own subject matter. If you're illustrating an elf, you're good if people can see that it's an elf and that the elf has the look/mood/attitude that you intended.
It matters jack shit if someone just froze a video and copied someone's face, used a photo reference or painted it with faeces while standing up in a canoe, the result is what matters and obsessing over method is for shitty artists who want to pat themselves on the back for doing things the "proper" way.
>>44149471
Have you tried hiring someone born after 1980's?
Oh wait, nobody from that generation cares about newspaper, much less would want to work for one.
>>44149607
Digital artists are lazy.
>>44149709
They're also expected to churn out art at a much faster pace than back in the day.
>>44149709
tell me about it
>>44149607
Get a load of this bitter cunt.
>It's illustration you hippies, the process is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is communicating the subject matter in the intended manner.
And the artist clearly failed at that, because he did not communicate "Elf", he communicated "Yolandi Visser", because that's what he drew. And he drew Yolandi Visser because he traced a picture of her without any significant change. This breaks suspension of disbelief, and that makes it poor art for its goal. You tit.
>the result is what matters and obsessing over method is for shitty artists who want to pat themselves on the back for doing things the "proper" way.
And the result is SHIT. Because the artist... sorry, illustrator, is a lazy piece of garbage who couldn't even be arsed to trace a picture that wouldn't be instantly recognised by the rest of the world.
Defending shitty art is the thing shitty artists do, Anon. Because they want the glory without any of the effort. Well, I'm sorry that /ic/ shat on your lazy trace-jobs, but don't take it out on us.
>>44125056
So you're saying even teenage girls can do something better than you?
>>44149733
I suppose giving a loli a pink sock is a proper metaphor for US foreign policy.
>>44125075
90% of all specieses are parasites
90% of all lifeforms can't be wrong
>>44138943
God, what the fuck is wrong with her eyes, sloped forehead, and just FUCK.
She looks like a starved Neanderthal.
>>44149983
>She looks like a starved Neanderthal.
That's basically what she is. Also albino.
>>44132478
Double-spacing after a period?
What the fuck? Literally never heard of that.
>>44149983
Yolandi has gone to hospital a few times for malnutrition.
And is 1/4 black.
>>44150003
Ask your parents about it.
>>44149994
>>44150230
That's hot.
>>44149733
That's a pretty ugly mug photo.
Holy fuck this thread is pure deviantart.
>it's a style
>who are you to criticize!
>>44151517
That's /tg/'s regular mode when talking about the objective and subjective.
>>44125048
I work in this field, a teacher told way back when I was learning the fundamentals. " If it looks like crap it plagerism, but if it looks good its a homeage.
I myself sometimes to get the angles right take pictures of a pose I might need with props. and then blue trace the line-art later. it saves us alot of time. especially when there are multiple shots involved
>>44138943
She was the lady in Chappie, right? She was nice.
>>44152249
her name is yolandi, she is a south african rapper
Go here:
http://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/imagesearch.html
Put in image you want to steal
Get random noise that _coincidentally_ looks like original image.
Demonstrably no longer plagiarism, legally not copyright infringement. Best website for artists ever.
>>44152258
Thanks for the name - I just did a search, and it turns out she was in Chappie and one short film. Apparently another guy in the film, Ninja, is also in her rap-rave group.
>>44149733
Funny enough they actually found the original National Geographic girl a while back. She aged POORLY. Guess life in a warzone does that to ya.
>>44149607
I'd just like to add to this guys point. Very few of the artists we view as greats today painted from memory. Those that didn't have a model pose in front of them for hours would actually use primitive versions of projectors to project images onto there canvas that they could trace and then paint over it.
>>44152491
Age and shitty housings will do that to you.
>>44148700
>But, worth noting, you can't actually learn law in college.
Americans use "college" to mean all levels of post-secondary education.
>>44152999
>Americans use "college" to mean all levels of post-secondary education.
Not the ones who've been to university.
>>44149471
>be me
>be
>be
Fuck off back to reddit.
>>44150230
So she is just a black albino?
>>44152491
>>44149733
Why does the natgeo cover look different from the standalone picture?
>>44153558
Slightly differently cropped, also the background is blurred to bring more attention to object photographed.
It's still less photoshopped than average picture on facebook, if that's what you're after.
>>44124997
>we will never have the old standard of art in magic again
Fuck, old cards looked so much better.
>>44154172
Old fantasy art in general was better.
>>44155889
Does Brom count as old?
>>44157704
5/10
>>44152265
Thinking that applying a very cheap filter (that you can do on default photoshop since at least cs4 btw) is going to relieve you from plagiarism is pretty stupid.
May as well go full retarded, trace the original pic, and flip it horizontally
>>44157704
>round tits
>play an instrument
>long hair
>strong houseworker forearms
>use loose dresses
>likes cloudy days
>big lips, pale skin
Marriage material.
>>44125158
Yes.
>>44125272
>>44125323
Yolandi gives me the strangest of bonkers.
>>44137357
You are confusing "copied" and "maybe used as a reference"
>>44145805
Greg Land is so notorious for tracing his own work, tracing porn, and tracing other artists that he's practically a laughing stock among comic fans. Are you high?
>implying this isn't felicia day
>>44154172
Uh-huh.
>>44164484
doesnt look like felicia day it looks like a redhead lauren cohan
felicia day has like a dweeby look, whereas chandra is a grade A dimepiece like lauren cohan
>>44166628
I'll take something like this over the boring generic "art" we get these days any day.
>>44166662
Maybe you'd be better off playing Yu-gi-oh
>>44164484
Looks like a guy.
>>44152491
She didn't look too good before, anyways. Her eyes were the main part of interest.
>>44140895
> complaining about who is and isn't a 'style icon' on a table gaming board
>>44167767
They are crazy eyes with those tiny pupils.
>>44164484
>Those laugh lines or whatever
I CAN SEE IT
>>44125071
nah second biggest. biggest was triumph of ferocity
although for triamph it was just social justice warriors complaning this actually divides /tg/ a little
and then theres the constant fights over if the art should be homogenised. (well more complaining from /tg/ that it is not sure what other comunitys think)
>>44168030
>not Stasis
>>44124997
i just dont see the point of using a photo refrence for a character that already has plenty of art shouldent you be trying to make the face match up with what already exists
>>44152491
i think i read somewhere that the girl from that image fleeing a vilage covered in napalm survived to its interesting looking back on these clasic photos and thinking about the subjects now.
>>44168030
wait this what did people think was wrong with this.
>>44168099
2abstract4me
>>44168087
She's like a major speaker now. Very famous.
Just goes to show. All you need to do to succeed in life is get bombed the shit out and run screaming.
>>44168099
Two things, one stupid, one understandable but still in my opinion Wrong.
First: that it's >>44168116 and just general hate for abstract-ish modern-ish art.
Second: that it looks completely out of place compared to other art. But Magic art is changeable anyway, and even if it did look out of place I'd personally be fine with it because it looks so damn good (to me, anyway).
>>44125048
look, he's not an artist! Point and laugh!
All artists constantly take references from real photos.
Artgerm, for example, doesn't. And he suffers from this, as most of his faces look same-ish.
>>44168139
Reference is not the same as copying.
>>44168134
This. I liked the old Majick art because it was so all over the place. Now it's just generic modern fantasy art.
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfy-DSuc_Kk
>>44168099
oops meant to quote
>>44168048
>>44125478
>>44125419
>>44168099
Only good art is photorealistic art. This art is not realistic, therefore it is bad.
If you want to see great art, have you heard about fallout 4?
Thanks for tipping me off about Die Antwoord, /tg/. I didn't realise that there was still good rap being made.
>>44168030
>although for triamph it was just social justice warriors complaning this actually divides /tg/ a little
I haven't played MtG in over a decade now and only cursory kept tabs on it. But even I know that that sorceress is in a bunch of other cards as well. It's part of the background.
If the only reason people complain about it is because it's a man chocking a woman it's retarded.
>>44171033
People complain about violence in a game where the premise is that you have a bunch of creatures killing eachother on behalf of a couple of wizards having a dick waving competition?
