Can we get a good old fashioned Legacy thread going?
What's your meta like? And what are you playing?
>>44109989
Just built this Wednesday. It's been pretty sweet with my meta. A couple combo, mostly control decks. Eats most decks alive g1 and g2 if they dont have an answer i can play around their side. Spot the secret tech
Pretty sad that /r9k/ has better legacy threads than /tg/
>>44109989
TFW you're too poor for the real deck you want so you toss this piece of shit together in the mean time.
>>44110987
It's all good anon, at least you've put something together. There's no rush to completing a deck, enjoy the ride
>>44109989
I'm playing goblins, as always (though I have a bunch of other decks I like to play in non-competitive events and practice)
Meta is green white durdle town. One shardless, one or two snt, reanimator sometimes, jund and junk, food chain, couple of burn, 2-3 elves, 2-3 d&t, grixis stuff, maybe one or two delver decks (super underplayed here), couple of miracles, couple of shitty enchantress, storm, mud, and so on
It's pretty diverse, can't complain
>>44110211
Honestly looks pretty standard dragon stompy. Am I actually missing something secret?
Just finished my pedo homunculus deck. Artifact lock down into infinite mill, creature, damage, and turn
>>44111101
Yea I guess. Turn 2 Batterskull feels so goddamn good sometimes too.
>>44111205
>pedo homunculus
I don't understand is your deck a sexual predator?
>>44111183
I got some flack for body and mind when I first ran it out. Besides that its just my choice of 3 drop beaters. I'm thinking of trying prophetic flamespeaker.
I've sadly created the meta of counter-meta in my area. It's gone full circle.
>>44111101
>One shardless, one or two snt, reanimator sometimes, jund and junk, food chain, couple of burn, 2-3 elves, 2-3 d&t, grixis stuff, maybe one or two delver decks (super underplayed here), couple of miracles, couple of shitty enchantress, storm, mud, and so on
this is literally my shop meta. i am 'grixis guy'
>>44113504
Word.
We also have occasional dredge guy and occasional oops all spells guy
Several people switch it up rather than just playing one deck
Alara homunculus token
>>44116920
Creepy as fuck
>>44109989
I'm a DnT player.
We have a really diverse meta, about 12-20 people show on thursday.
All flavors of delver, MUD, burn, one dude who either plays Aluren or Food Chain(and has an awesome cube), some shardless, some miracles, Not all that much storm.
>>44116920
>>44110211
>The "I lose to basics" starter pack
>>44118488
My LGS does Thursday too. Syracuse by any chance?
>>44118623
In legacy there are Very few decks that run many basics. The ones that do get wrecked by trinisphere. (Unless they have an opening aether vial)
My meta is mostly combo, specifically dredge, elves and storm variants.
What is the deck that has the most even matchups across the board? At least with the worst matchup being 45%'s
>>44120646
Monored, UR delver, elves, death and taxes, miracles
>>44120751
Read? Most of those decks get wrecked by trinisphere. And delver for example doesn't run a ton of basics.
>>44120854
On the play against delver yes. On the draw it needs to land
>>44120854
If elves gets 4 lands down or a t1 Deathrite they can zenith out of it
>>44113865
We have a proxy league, so I decided that I will be "flavor of the week" guy. Spend a week practicing on cockatrice, get prize. Took mono brown prison robots yesterday, it was a blast.
>>44120574
Austin, TX
Has anyone tried playing Teferi's Response against a lands player? Did they shit their pants?
>>44127011
I need to find some shell for this
>>44127020
Board tech in delver against DnT
i just started legacy and am playing RB goblins. My meta is pretty weak because it just started so everyone is going very meta with their decks and sideboards. what should i use as a sideboard. there is elves, belcher,DnT, and 12 post deck floating about.
>>44128476
Elves, belcher and dnt are soft to board wipes. Try electrickery, marsh casualties or something you can dodge. Blood moon/magus is pretty good against 12 post. If there are a lot of belcher players you could try the white splash for ethersworn canonist/thalia or a pile of eidolons/pyrostatic pillars
>>44128476
Also thoughtseize/cabal therapy or hymn if your mana is good can pick belcher apart. The best board tech is "be on the play"
>>44128476
Dread of night ruins DnT
>>44129558
Thalia is the best goblin.
>>44129735
Second this. It literally makes DnT a very bad stoneblade deck.
What's an extra wincon for Lands that I can pack in the sideboard and bring in game 2 against decks that are likely to use Surgical?
I was thinking about Dragonmaster Outcast but something a bit more resilient would be better.
>>44131781
If you want to be old school go for mishras factory beats. The more efficient answer is to play around it, more tranquil thickets, or crucible of worlds and a ghost quarter as a backup loam
>>44131781
You could throw in more mountains and see if you can use koth as a win con
>>44132184
Can't really go there since it would mess up the Punishing Fires
>>44132254
If you cut the basics for more taigas or basic mountains, or throw some in the board it might not
>>44131532
I want to see if you can throw a DnT list together that maximizes the prison elements. That seems like the decks real strong point.
>>44132542
Rough list:
4x aether vial
4x mother of runes
4x thalia
4x vryn Wingmare
4x stoneforge
4x thorn of amethyst
4x enlightened tutor
1x crucible of worlds
1x smokestack
1x trinisphere
4x wasteland
4x rishadan port
Some large amount of land
A lot of obvious nombos, but it could be a fun take on mono white stax
>>44132671
Also all of the sol lands and mox diamonds?
does anyone here play high tide?
>>44132919
Is that the same as solidarity?
>>44132988
it uses high tide and time spiral to make a lot of mana and draw cards so that you can blue sun zenith them to death.
>>44133020
I think that's the same. I've played it with brainfreeze to mill them, so you only need to blue sun for 20 or whatever. Do you run frantic search?
>>44133133
i think it is a one of in the deck
Ah, I'm about to head out to play in a small local tournament.
I play Death and Taxes. My meta depends on where I am. In my area it's mostly omnitell/sneak and show or burn stuff.
Around the Toronto area it seems to be mostly different Delver decks, death and taxes, and Miracles.
What do you guys think about the new Stoneforge promo?
Also I'm trying out Gidion in my sideboard for any of those really grindy matches. Going to see how it goes.
>>44133347
Im hoping that it heralds the unbanning of stoneforge. So I trade all of mine for blue and black cards.
Gideon is interesting, can you get to mana? How does he play with wingmare/thalia?
Would running a 2 of mana tithe in death and taxes be a bad idea?
Because I kind of want to try it.
Yeah, I'm that guy on Grixis Delver.
The backwards cards are the stand ins for my Cabal Therapys that are on loan to a buddy of mine right now.
Also, am I the only person in Legacy that loves my mainboard Surgical Extractions?
>>44134490
No gurmags? I don't feel like I even want surgicals outside of dredge and reanimator. What do they do in the main?
>>44134427
It seems alright, but a bit of a nombo with your sphere effects
>>44134490
Are your cards stacked weird or is that 3x force and stifle
>>44134490
I am the kind of person that noticed that Surgical can target non basic lands.
>Wasteland your USea, Surgical your USeas
>Stifle your fetch, Surgical your fetches
And I just can't get behind Gurmag. I'd rather play a more aggro game with Taylor Swiftspear.
>>44134896
Yeah, I had to shave a Force and a Stifle. the fourth Force is in the SB, at least.
>tfw scene only meets once a month on days I'm usually busy on
I just wanna jam some games mang.
>>44132671
Maybe some equipments
>>44134924
That's good against non-deathrite delver decks, but I can't see it being terribly relevant against shardless, miracles, elves, DnT etc
It looks like you are running almost UR delver, so no gurmag makes sense. I do not agree with running less than 4 forces in aggro shells, but I understand it.
>>44135390
I'll call it "Death and Staxes"
>>44133133
>>44133186
Frantic Search is banned in Legacy.
>>44137377
Well I did not know that!
>>44128476
Goblins!
For elves: chalice and pyrokinesis
D&T: pyrokinesis, artifact removal (you should have some main like tuktuk scrapper, but also more in the board), dread of night
Belcher: chalice, mindbreak trap, pray you don't get this matchup
>>44132184
Molten vortex is waaaayyy better
>>44139097
It is, forgot that existed.
>>44139071
Against belcher try winning the die roll, then therapy naming belcher probably. You might be able to race an 8 goblin hand.
>tfw you run Pox and 8-land-stompy
And they told me you needed to mortgage your house to play Legacy.
>>44141002
That's Vintage. The car is Legacy.
>>44133579
I don't think they will unban stoneforge.
Gideon is for the long grindy match ups which have lots of removal and board wipes so stuff with liliana or Miracles.
Most people that I play against take FoW out against me so it's not that hard to slam down and like I said most of the matches I bring him in are ones that they grind my out in.
>>44141716
I think its pretty good in those match ups then, BUG and Miracles are not going to have a good answer to a non-creature permanent with CMC 4. How many do you run? Is it a token generator or do you pump out an emblem?
>>44142342
Well Miracles does have Council's Judgement.
I just make tokens with him. Against Miracles, if they tap out completely I do use his +1 ability. Never had a situation that I had to use his emblem. Although he is still new and haven't been able to test play completely with him. But for the most part all my matches that I can think of bringing him in I feel that making another creature would be the best option.
>>44133579
I can't remember who it was, but a guy from Wizards once said that there's 3 cards in Modern that will NEVER be unbanned. Those cards were Green Sun, Jace, and Stoneforge.
Pox fag here.
Casting 2 copies of Big Pox in one turn is transcendent.
>>44142862
I'll be honest, to "Someone at wizards said x" sounds like the MTG equivalent of "I have an uncle who works for nintendo"
>>44143521
I once combined pox with Djinn Illuminatus. It was a funny way to end the evening.
>>44143521
>tfw you have the nether spirit/contamination lock but you don't find a way to kill them and go to time
Pox lyfe
Crucible or no Crucible in Pox and Lands?
I run crucible but I'm not sure if it's worth it.
Been slowly trading into legacy but dreading the cost of OG duals. Where can I buy believable proxies?
>>44144967
In monoB Pox, absolutely. It has amazing synergy with everything you're doing. In lands and BG Pox, loam basically does the same thing so I wouldn't bother.
>>44144982
Buy revised proxies on dhgate
>>44144982
>but muh duals
Unless you plan on winning a pro tour nobody actually gives a shit about duals.
>>44145079
Any sellers in particular that have a better product or are they all roughly the same?
I've been slowly building towards UR reanimator over the years. Still need a few cards, but I'm very close now. I figure I can do without duals for now, but FoW is pretty much irreplacable, right?
>>44110987
Just buy Chinaman or play online, I guess. That's what Im doing anyways.
MTG's a fun game but it's only marginally cheaper than a cocaine habit (if at all).
>shop has 5 burnwillows left
>buy 2, will get the other 2 when i have more money
>when i have more money, they only have 1 left
>>44147886
UR? Don't you mean UB?
FoW is really good for protecting your combo but the problem with it is that it costs you your card advantage.
But if you just can't get the FoW you could always replace it with some more discard spells and just play more proactive instead of reactive. The benefits to that is that you'll keep your card advantage the downside to it is if you're facing quick combos or if your opponent top decks their answer you pretty much lose.
>>44109989
Red goblin go fuck yourself deck, fast hard as nails and can fuck anybody in 3 turns.
White soldier token deck
Because Sometimes you want white goblins
White/green healing defender deck
Stall the game indefinitely up to infinite hp, play creature that gets +1/+1 for each hp you gain. Collect tears.
Black graverobber deck, because. I dont. Need. Friends.
>>44149875
You sound like you lose a lot.
>>44149901
Only against time warp lockout decks.
And anything new.
And anyone with real money to put into decks.
Basically anything since eldrazi..
But anything before that is fair game. Never lost with the graverobber deck. Or token. Goblin was my first deck that I built out of 5 cent single commons and slowly made better.
And nobody plays against my white green because matches take too long.
Oh i also have a grixis deck which needs 5 mana to even start playing creatures. Which usually managed to win. Unless they burned me down before i could start playing cards
>>44149867
Yes, lack of sleep will do that, sorry.
I've tried playtesting a bigger discard package, by running 3x Thoughtseize, 3x Duress instead of Force of Will, but found that there are a lot of decks where the card disadvantage of FoW doesn"t weigh up to the advantage of being able to answer their key card/main hate.
That's why I believe there's no real alternative to running four Forces. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I end up losing so much more w/o Force in my deck than with it.
beep boop destroy all humans
>>44150010
I love decks like this.
>>44150007
The only real match up I believe FoW isn't good in the deck are 8-Rack and Shardless Bug.
Any of those games that their cards are doing a 2 for 1 thing is something you want to avoid helping them out with.
But against all the other decks you would want FoW
who /plays at dci sanctioned tournaments with counterfeits/ here
Here's my deck list from last night.
The cards off the playmat are the sideboard cards. I knew the meta was mostly Burn, sneak and show, and omni tell so I put the mainboard Brimaz and the anti red cards in my sideboard.
>tfw just need 3 more foil ports ;_;
>>44150239
>MPR Wastes
Jelly.
Wish I could afford a set.
>>44150377
I have a lot of wastelands.
Right now I'm trying to find heavily played Wastelands without using the internet.
I just need the Judge Wastelands from 2010 and 2015 and have to find Una Fricker to sign one of my playsets for me then I'll be done collecting them.
>>44150239
That reminds me. I still need to get my absolute law altered to look like Judge Dredd.
>>44150472
Are those 4 seasons of Wasteland?
>>44150881
Yeah, my friend was bored when I was away for a week and did the.
>>44120854
I've beaten trinisphere/chalice decks with elves many times. You only need one basic forest, you can pay for trinisphere with mountains and start recurring Rec Sage.
>>44129558
that XR sweeper that does X to all creatures of a chosen colour is very good against Elves/DNT and won't sweep all your goblins.
>>44151393
Sudden Demise
My pride and joy. Euro basics are for extra hotness.
>>44151870
>No supreme Verdict.
Have fun losing all the time.
>>44151892
But anon, I run it in the side.
>>44152054
I like the Izzet Staticaster more.
>>44150010
That's my deck when I want to turn my brain off for a night. It's really fun to play though.
>>44151892
He's running 4 terminus?
>>44152398
I know, I was just joking because a lot of decks have been running 3 Terminus and 1 Supreme Verdict mainboard instead because of stifle
fuck yeah solitaire.
>>44152719
I've always loved playing against this deck with my DnT.
>>44152054
>>44151870
>Six white borders
reeee
>>44152972
Whenever I run a deck with fetches I make all my lands white border just to find them faster.
But yeah no excuse for the blood moon and blast
>WB Duals
>KTK fetches
>WB Library and Choke
>Theros thoughtseizes
S-sorry senpais
>>44153003
>>44152972
It bothers me too. I'm waiting for the day the shop I work at gets moons from the dark so I can make the switch, along with the blast. I'd have already made the switch, but the discount spoils me.
>being frugal with your money in legacy
>>44153292
The thoughseize I can deal with.
Everything else is a reason you should kill yourself.
>>44153381
>perpetuating the Legacy HAS to be expensive meme
You can make perfectly viable legacy decks for the cost of a dual land.
>>44153402
The KTK fetches and WB choke I don't actually feel bad about since I play them all in my modern deck and I like using all matching frames in Modern. The Library is just me being cheap though. I want a nice one so bad.
>>44153448
I remember when my friend and I wanted to get into Legacy, we did the math and found that if we both just stopped drafting for a year and traded all of our cards we don't use we could make viable legacy decks.
So we did that, traded everything upwards, probably spent like 300 of my own money on some cards but had about 3-4 legacy decks.
Then I picked the deck I enjoyed the most and traded up for vintage. That was of course before the massive spike in price after GP NJ.
>>44153292
I support going full white border
>>44153557
I originally got into legacy before the big spike in 2010-2011. My first four Tarmogoyfs I got in trade for $35 apiece. I sold out to pay for school in summer of 2013, though, and got wrecked by the post-NJ spike when I got back in.
>>44153590
I remember pulling a foiled Goyf and trading it in for 3 normal goyfs.
Good times.
