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>>44040525
>Truly Magical Realms Edition
Has a DM ever squirted a bit of Magical Realm into their game, and it turns out you actually loved it being there?
Reposting from last thread:
So I have a silly idea in my head currently of an inquisitor of Szuriel, using sanctified slayer, and infiltrator archetypes. Infiltrator since no one will ever be able to know I'm actually evil in the party through detect shenanigans.
However I'm struggling with finding an RP base for this, and if I should be LE or NE.
>>44040422
That is very silly, but it fits more with Asmodeus I think.
>>44040557
My DM this weekend just introduced an erotic sex cult that we're currently fighting.
We had to escort a priestess from the temple and the bashful half orc paladin redeemer walked in on the priestess during an orgy.
>>44040557
Yes, had a portrait picture of my favorite model /suicide girl has character art for a priestess.
Needless to say, waifuing happened.
>>44040601
>Yes, had a portrait picture of my favorite model /suicide girl has character art for a priestess.
>2015
>Using real people for tokens
>>44040610
It was 2014 at the time.
But hey, I didn't complain.
>>44040557
I don't know about loving it, but there was one game where the DMPC was this paladin-in-training who hid our group in the local church, and then kept wandering off when we congregated there. Finally tracked him one night to see where he was going, he was up a tree in the graveyard. Turns out he was cursed and slowly turning into a dracolisk, so he hid out every night in the one place no one goes (the abandoned part of the graveyard) so no one sees his true form. Over time, he became more and more beastly and had to hide it with glamours.Found out afterward she has huge fetishes for both furry and transformation porn.
Is Scribe Scroll worth a feat for Monster Tactician?
I thinks using scroll is the only way they can have more than one Summon Monster spell active at a time?
Is the Summoner balanced now? I haven't played pathfinder in a long time and I'm considering returning to it.
Been away from PF for several months, but some buddies are starting up again soon and I see several resource books came out in the meantime (Melee Tactics Toolbox, Weapon Master's Handbook, Ultimate Equipment, etc). Anything particularly new or interesting there?
>>44040724
Melee Tactics/Ranged Tactics are abominations of uselessness. Ultimate Equipment is good. Weapon Master's Handbook is great. Beastiary 5 is great.
>>44040703
It's still Tier 2 due to Summon Monster SLA.
They don't get early spell on their spell list now though.
>>44040703
Nope, they nerfed their cool ability and left the game-breaking one untouched.
>>44040724
Isn't Ultimate Equipment came out in 2012?
>>44040724
The more recent companions are actually good, Weapon Master's Handbook for example makes Fighters of all things useful. Dirty Tactics Toolbox is also pretty good.
>>44040557
I'm shamelessly traditional in my smut, so the lewdest thing a DM's ever done that I approved of was physically attractive characters and impregnation mechanics.
![1384442550814[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CPMczab.jpg "1384442550814[2].jpg")
>>44040801
>impregnation mechanics.
Go on.
What campaign are you working on /pfg/? Need any help?
>>44040855
Savage Tides, only help I could use is if someone made the AP maps roll20 compatible. The ones in the PDF/AP have all the tiles different lengths so it is impossible to get the grid allignment to work.
>group gets together after setting up characters to review everything
>everyone's character is over six feet tall
>we all joke about it, laugh at how the human barbarian is still taller than the half elf, and move on
>new player wants to join, can't decide on appearance and rolls height table after flipping a coin to decide between races
>their character winds up being a 4'11" Dhampir barely over 100 lbs
>The Dhampir will be shorter than the half-elf's homunculus companion
Tell me about your parties, /pfg/.
>yfw there are no GMs out there who use DSP
feels terrible, hombres
>>44040855
Yes. If my group's girls start hitting on waitresses and shit, what do I do? I've never been able to do that shit right even when I was DMing for heteros - I do not have any idea how to roleplay flirtation.
>>44040837
Unless you mention the two of you are doing some "non-traditional" sex, roll a 1d100 and, if it falls within a certain percentage determined by races involved and bonuses to fertility, you or your partner are knocked up.
For some races with short gestation this will be an issue, but for most it's just something to consider for the epilogue, long campaigns or plot hooks about taking responsibility.
>>44040910
woops, wrong fw
>>44040910
Not true. I'm a GM, and I DSP.
My brother-in-law also GMs for a different group. He uses DSP as well.
>>44041022
can I be in your group, anon
>>44040912
>DM has no idea what to do when you try to roleplay romantic interest in NPCs
>"romance" then involves grapple checks
>and then Fortitude saves
I hate this
I really like this race, and playable plant races usually blow for me.
>>44040912
Do it the same fucking way, the only way it can be this hard is if you were garbage at flirtation in the first place.
>>44040557
If it was meant to be an ERP game in the first place, does the magical realm still count?
>>44040907
The party in the game I'm playing in is pretty ridiculous mechanically. DM went "Gestalt! 3.5 templates encouraged! High-power anything goes!" for this game and it turned out surprisingly well. Although we almost TPK'd a couple sessions ago, when we bit off way more than we could chew.
>Half-crystal dragon owlbear, has four wings, two of which are functional. The team's moral compass, despite the fact that he has only said two words other than "hoot" in this entire campaign. Melee blender extraordinaire.
>A vampire rogue turned by her mother's experimentation (herself a powerful lich). Can hop to the ethereal plane instead of turning into smoke like a normal vampire, and wears a sunlight-blocking collar that's also cursed to make her obey the collar's owner (currently our boss, iirc).
>A dragon who was polymorphed into a human as a wyrmling, then mindwiped, so the mad wizards could see what growing up was like for such a being. He gets emotionally unstable if he doesn't have a "hoard" of jewelry and other riches worth X amount on him at any given time.
>The ex-familiar of an archmage who recently died of old age, who was hit with a bundle of divine power by the archmage's god when that happened, instead of returning to be a normal cat. Immune to most spells, and a FMA alchemist.
>Lolth-touched half-minotaur grappling warlock who's also got a couple other deities' power mixed in, too. All of said gods are a bit peeved about the mad wizards borrowing their power for the experiments. She is a very angry person. We reason that the only difference between CG and CE is how willing you are to murder the fuck out of everything that crosses you in your goals.
>>44041035
Do you live in Fuck Nowhere, NJ? What's your stance on Mengkare? Do you think orcs should always be CE? Aasimar or Tiefling? Are you cute?
>>44040910
What do you mean? Every DM worth their salt on Roll20 allow DSP.
>>44040910
I feel your pain. Group I'm in now (which is on hiatus for the holidays) is made up of folks who mostly play core-only. The DM is relatively open-minded - she forbade psionics, but allowed PoW, and most of Spheres once I explained what it can and can't do (she only nixed the plane-creation stuff).
Since I'm also the only arcane caster in the group (there are two Paladins, but the rest is rogues and barbs and a cavalier), and it's an OC campaign, it shouldn't really make much difference. But oh, the confused stares and questioning looks I get when I start pulling out spells. And it's been made known to me there's been some grumbling that I'm cheating, having a Magus that can transform, teleport, heal, or pull weapons out of the air.
Maybe I should have just played a Wizard, but I was honestly going for something like a medieval Kamen Rider.
>>44041052
Nah you gotta go gentler, Diplomacy first. Then some Sense Motive. If things are going okay, Sleight of Hand will help. Perform or Profession come next. A sprinkle of Handle Animal or Ride. Sense Motive again to determine if you need more of the previous two steps. If mate is too far from humanoid you may need Knowledge (dungeoneering) or Swim checks. Heal checks may be in order. At the end there can be more Diplomacy, Survival, Stealth or Escape Artist.
>>44041185
No.
Neutral?
No.
Tiefling.
Imaqtpa2t
>>44041165
Just tell us to be sure.
What race gets the best abilities for an archer, and why?
>>44041251
Air goblin
>>44041185
I've got family from fuck nowhere, Mengkare is both super arrogant and definitely not LG (I'd put him at LN at the very best), alignment in general is pretty dumb but singular alignment races shouldn't be a thing, why not both, not super cute, sorry :c
>>44041213
If you can't be arsed to study your dragon politics and make an informed decision, you don't get to be a part of the clan.
>>44041316
Damn, you had me until "not super cute". Work on that, and you might be able to join my golden island paradise.
>>44041251
Human, because of the extra feat.
>>44041362
Is a skirt necessary to be "super cute" Anon?
>>44041409
Not always, but it certainly helps.
In the end, its the skirt in the heart that matters.
>>44041362
I live in Fucking Nowhere, Ohio, a sister city of Fucking Nowhere, NJ.
I think Mengkare is living the dream, I don't care how non-good it is as long as I get a slice of that pie.
Orcs should not always be CE, but they should mostly be CE, they're more fun that way.
Aasimar, because I've got a thing for pure girls.
I'm cute! CUTE!When should I expect my ticket to Hermea?
I think Orcs should get to choose just two mental stats to take penalties in. Orc shamans and spellcasters should exist, and shouldn't have to run with a penalty to their casting stats.
![mengkare[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eopFa4l.jpg "mengkare[1].jpg")
>>44041472
You intrigue me. Send me a genetic sample, and I'll get back to you.
could a "dumb" wizard make sense thematically?
I'm don't mean mouthbreather stupid, I'm talking fighter tier
>>44041573
I don't mean*
>>44041520Send a representative I can put it in, those glass vials are awful easy to lose.
>>44041573
Thematically, maybe, mechanically, it would be difficult. Remember, they cast from int, and need points in int to even be able to use spells of certain levels.
This is why if you want that "sort" of Wizard, you usually go low WIS.
>>44041251
Make sure to pick up some delicious FREE dexterity:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/more-character-options/young-characters
>>44041573
>>44041593
Does it have to be a Wizard, the class? Or a person that thinks they're a wizard?
If the latter, Sorcerer or Kineticist would work wonders, give the character a normal spell book and let 'em play pretend.
>>44041595
>This is why if you want that "sort" of Wizard, you usually go low WIS.
makes sense, how did I not think of that
>>44041620
But young characters can't take PC classes
>>44041620
Doesn't this confirm Child Soldiers are ideal warriors?
>>44041633
Archers never get relevant class features, it's perfect.
>>44041573
I thought those were called Sorcerers.
>>44041633
I guess a GM could allow an exception. I've been in a campaign before where another PC was a little girl arcanist. It would need to be handled well though, not just "hurr durr I'm a little kid".
>>44041671
You can't handle it any worse than an adult character unless you try to put sex into things.
>>44041520
>mfw I thought you were actually offering a spot in your group
Don't play with my heart like this.
>>44041847
Sorry, man. If I was doing online, I would, but we have an actual table and shit in my basement.
>>44041862
Why are you keeping your shit in your basement?
>>44041880
There's a bathroom down there, so shitting in the basement isn't as barbaric as it sounds.
>>44040753
Which is which?
>>44041648
More seriously though, what ARE classes that have archery class features? Ones that aren't just bonus feats that anyone could have taken?
>>44041933
Nerfed eidolon (which was itself really strong, but only did so much, and was just a fighter substitute) while leaving summon monster (the real source of amazing power and utility in the class) untouched. Spell list changes were a worthy nerf, though.
>>44041938
The marksman, which is a psionic class. It also has cool archetypes, such as the shroud.
>>44041944
Got it, thanks. That's lame. That was the big appeal of the class to me.
>>44041938
Marksman, I guess?
>>44041962
Agreed. I'd have rather they rebalanced eidolon to not be quite as ridiculous, and then gutted summon monster, to make them more of a Final Fantasy Aeon summoner class.
>>44041944
Also worth noting that the Eidolon nerf was no so much a power nerf (though a couple abilities now cost more), it was mostly a 'creativity nerf'. You have to choose from far more specific eidolon templates.
>>44041938
Ranger, Slayer, Ki Archer, Paladin, Warpriest, Fighter, Aegis, Marksman, Psychic Warrior, Eldritch Archer Magus, Inquisitor, and more.
>>44040910
There's a game app up on Roll20 right now that's allowing DSP Psionics and PoW with 25 PB, if you want to check that out? I'm not sure whether I want to apply, since I'm already in a couple games and not sure if I should join another.Fuck, why can't there be more hours in the day or days in the week?
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/36370/delving-darkly
>tfw the political intrigue sandbox with a promised side-order of downtime I joined has turned into yet another "Ancient Evil awakens, save the world" deal.
All I want to do is fight for my liege and fuck attractive courtiers, is that too much to ask?
>>44042048
>Text OnlyOnly excused because the DM is using explicit sexual content
>>44041993
Yeah, that flavor-locking was so godsdamned stupid.
Thank gods for Spiritualists...
>>44041938
A Sniper Slayer has a couple of lame-sounding features that wind up surprisingly useful. The ability to Sneak Attack someone from full weapon range (with Slayer level in bonus damage), plus the ability to halve someone's movement speed, means it's not just a character doing refluffed Melee things without having to move, but actually a character capable of kiting opponents and continually getting away from melee range.
And then the rest of the Slayer's features are all archer-relevant stuff that is maybe less unique but grouped together very nicely.
>>44042059
What kind of player are you?
>>44041981
Currently working on a combination of the ideas behind Summoner and Medium.
It focuses on preparing summons for powerful planar beings, very similar to the FFX summoner.
What are some easy ways to silence an enemy and prevent them from calling out for help? Is the Silence spell the only real way of doing so?
>>44042110
>Spiritualist
I thought the occult classes were crap.
>>44042134
My guess is "one who is tired of the same shit again and again."
>>44042159
No, Medium and Kineticist are shit. Psychic is good but is a 9th level caster, so it's bad in terms of that. Mesmerist, Occultist, and Spiritualist are at least competent, and each new book with new spirits makes the Spiritualist more powerful thanks to Spirit Symbiosis.
I've noticed that most people are ignoring the paizo psionic occult classes and continuing to use Dreamscarred Press. Do the occult classes just suck? I hate their name enough that I haven't really looked into them.
>>44042228
That reminds me, they make any Fractured Mind/Emotional Conduit/Spirit-Bound Blade stuff for those new Occult Realms phantoms? Feels like a bit of a oversight really.
How can we fix the Medium?
>>44042288
Make it Large
>>44042285
Doesn't look like it, probably for space reasons.
>>44042228
How does the psychic magic system work? Is it significantly different than normal casting?
Are there SoP/Psionics archetypes for these classes yet?
>>44042324
Damnit, if I can just figure out the rhyme or reason for Fractured Mind SLAs, I'd do it myself.
>>44042280
Yes, they suck.
>Medium: 4/6 spirits are worthless, 2/6 are just mediocre. Can't do what it was sold as. Mostly underwhelming. The soulknife version is better.
>Kineticist: plays counterintuitively, can't deliver the "all day blasting" as well as it should, is generally mediocre otherwise. It's comparable to an archer fighter in perfect situations, but most of the time it won't be in those situations. Burn is the worst thing.
>Occultist: kinda boring, but workable 6-level caster. Neat but needs some actual abilities.
>Spiritualist: pet class that's decent, but not great.
>Psychic: yet another full caster. Boring, powerful, nothing really COOL that it gets.
>Mesmerist: I haven't looked at it much, but it's got a death glare.
Would it piss players off if npc combatants had some of the class abilities from 4e D&D, rather than the class features from PF, like the fighter's marking ability, et al?
I'm setting up a campaign that is military based, and I want to throw the players off their game with foes that are not bog standard or reliant on magic to be threatening.
>>44042280
The short answer is yes, they do suck. Also, some people are just generally salty about the "play test" for Paizo's occult stuff.
However, I think I remember hearing some of the DSP staff complaining that their sales have gone down since the release of Paizo's occult stuff.
>>44042411
It's pretty much the same as normal casting, except vocal and somatic components are replaced with thought and emotion components, which means they become vulnerable to fear effects but they aren't affected by physical things like being grappled or paralyzed.
>>44042465
If the PCs can't do it, then you shouldn't do it.
>>44042471
They came right out and said that because OA had the veneer of being 1pp "psionics", their actual psionics book got hosed hardcore.
>>44042498
This is a terrible way to go about your game. Do you use bestiary entries against your players?
>>44042498
I dunno, usually it's okay if the DM uses something to make encounters more challenging but bans it for the PCs.
>>44042465
I'm of the opinion that humanoid NPCs shouldn't do things that PCs aren't allowed to.
>>44042228
>Each new book with new spirits makes the Spiritualist more powerful thanks to Spirit Symbiosis.
How is that, again?
Spirit Symbiosis just lets you swap around your spirit's emotional focus and abilities.
>>44042465
It depends on the players entirely.
I've had a player get absolutely furious when they couldn't figure out how the NPC is doing a certain trick by RAW and accusing me of biasing the game against them by giving the NPC unfair abilities.
On the other hand another player has said that building NPCs the same way as you build PCs is a silly idea to start with since the game isn't designed for pvp combat, and he encourages taking/making monsters and reflavoring them as humans or similar.
Both of them are nerds and my main stance is somewhere in between.
Here's the thing though. With the Occult stuff, how do you sell the player/DM on Psionics?
>>44042498
Would you explain why?
There are a pile of things available to foes that aren't to players outright, and I don't fancy trying to reverse engineer fighters, their mark system, all the feats that key into it, and so on, for maybe 8 classes all together, so the players have the OPTION of playing a different version of a class they may have no interest in anyway.
>>44042465
So long as the stats and abilities are reasonable for their CR, it's fine.
>>44042498
Rule 0 bruh
>>44042574
My group's been using psionics since it was written in 2003, so I don't have to.
>>44042542
Yes, and each new book that adds new spirits gives new options to swap to. Ignoring the Thassilonian sin spirits which are missing it, different spirits also come with different bonus spells from Emotional Conduit and different SLAs from the Fractured Mind archetype.
It's sort of like the Summoner's Evolution Surge, but more caster-based instead of pet-based, though the phantoms do get bonuses from the change as well.
>>44042584
It would literally be the fighter/warrior class, but instead of some of the things the fighter gets, it would instead get the defensive marking system the 4e fighter uses.
>>44042574
Advertise it as a magic system that actually works in an interestingly different way, rather than just 'this is the same casting as normal but we're calling it psychic'
>>44042574
Ask them if they prefer slots like in D&D, or Power Points/Mana Points/Energy Meter like in EVERY SINGLE VIDEOGAME THEY'VE EVER PLAYED EVER. Most players and GMs alike will go with what's more familiar to them; preferably you use it on new players/GMs so they don't get too used to Vancian and assume that it is in any way normal.
Does anyone have a good torrent that is regularly updated with the new pf stuff? The one I've been using has gone dark for a few months now, and Im looking for a new more compete one.
>>44042609
Should be just fine.
Just try to keep things within the guidelines for monster creation in the bestiary, in terms of damage output for a full round.
>>44042134
Just the kind that's a little tired of getting on the railroad because otherwise the whole world's gonna freeze over or get eaten or whatever.
I'm a huge fan of major conflict when said conflict isn't actually "serious", if you catch my meaning. Less "Evil Army of Evil is conquering Kingdom of Good," more "War were declared between two kingdoms fighting over disputed territory, and you're here to help one side and get filthy rich doing it."
I guess what I'm saying is I prefer being a mercenary, agent or monster hunter more than an adventurer.
>>44042609
Maybe I'm retarded, but I can't figure out how this works. So far as I can tell there's a fixed list of emotions/abilities in the class.
I'd love an example.
>>44042694
Did you mean that for >>44042629?
>>44042629
Just use a Warder against them.
>>44042575
Like >>44042570 mentioned.
Just making it so some human fighter suddenly has some ability that no other fighter has though is just dumb. Make them a Slayer instead of a fighter, not like the PCs will know. There are plenty of alternatives using 1pp material to make a more interesting "fighter".
>>44042451
Soulknife version?
>>44042712
I'm sorry about.
I got tired of those games so I GMed a sandbox game of sorts for players.
It's basically a guild wars/ final fantasy tactics theme where the players are mercs in the guild competing for land /fame /spoils with rival guilds and kingdoms.
I have random events and contract systems (which are more story driven based on contracts, so kinda rail roady) but otherwise it's usually players fucking around and picking fights with other rival guilds and factions via economy or deception or straight up smacking fools.
Been successful so far
>>44042794
Planned on using that, too, actually.
>>44042804
>Just making it so some human fighter suddenly has some ability that no other fighter
I had no plan to make it a single guy, I planned on it being a group. The campaign I'm putting together is basically a Romance of the Three Kingdoms send up, with each nation's base troop having special training specific to that country. The players will not be these base troops, but depending on how they go about things, will have them on their "squad" if they choose to.
>>44042742
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/spirit-symbiosis
When you cast Speak with Dead, you can change your phantom's emotional focus for one of the other ones. Each other one has different abilities and slightly different stats, though your feats and stat increases are going to remain the same.
In addition, a Spiritualist with the Fractured Mind archetype and/or the Emotional Conduit feat also gains bonus SLAs/spells from the phantom's emotional focus, which means swapping the focus also swaps some of your abilities available.
Then there's the Thassilonian Sin phantoms from Occult Realms, which one assumes you can swap your emotional focus to but they don't have any listed bonuses for Fractured Mind or Emotional Conduit.
>>44042767
Whoops. I did indeed.
>>44042914
Well, to further expound, 4e fighter's mark basically is a way to be sticky (I'm assuming you don't know how it works, forgive me if you do).
If a fighter lands a blow on an enemy, he can "mark" them to prevent their escape. If the marked foe makes an attack that does not include the fighter, he gets a free AoO on that enemy, and if they attempt to move in any fashion from the fighter, he gets an AoO that on hit, prevents their movement, counting it as used for the actions spent.
>>44042813
This thing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11s0QOvYSzcOZNxyhqrKnJrIg-jROgdUxM0o8jUHRdzM/edit
>>44042574
Simply put:
Occult magic is still magic. In fact, it's basically Arcane magic with a tiny tweak in how components work.
Psionics is a different magic system, and a way to play non-vancian magic users. They are not similar things.
>>44042985
He is still limited to the same number of AoOs as usual, yeah?
Go nuts.
I like to throw boss monsters out with triggered abilities and custom counterattacks. You knock him down and an AoE burst goes off. That sort of thing.
They're NPCs. you don't need them to be built like players at all. Just try to make sure your CRs are accurate enough so you don't get a TPK.
I can't decide what type of outsider I want to waifu. There's too many good ones.
>>44043058
>Trumpet Archon
>Ghaele Azata
Those are the only two outsiders you should try to fuck.
>>44043015
Also, isn't Occult Adventures more "Gypsies and Call of Cthulhu", and Psionics more "X-Men and the Hellfire Club"?
>>44042048
Premise and chargen rules seem okay but I'm not especially interested in a game that's gonna have ERP,at least not with strangers.
>>44042098
I still don't see why so many people hate text-based games. I mean, playing face to face IRL is best in my opinion and that's always going to have voice and "video" assuming you aren't blind. But my experience with games with voice/wideo chat is that the group tends to distract itself in a way that IRL face games strangely don't, plus it can be obnoxious if people start trying to talk at the same time (which is also a problem with IRL face games). I can understand room for personal preference but it seems a little extreme when someone might turn down a game just for being in a format they don't like. I mean, hell, I would still take a voice game assuming that the premise of it was good. Is it really that big of a deal for most people?
>>44043051
Their AoOs are counted by 1+wis mod.
As for CRs, these are basic troops, they will not scale past level 5. Foes who are serious will be initiators from Tob and PoW, and I've already told my players I will be using those books heavily.
>>44042985
Armiger's mark (from the warder) delivers a -4 penalty to attack rolls and 10+level% arcane spell failure to the target and lasts multiple rounds.
The Harbinger's Dark Claim causes targets to provoke AoOs for withdrawing or taking 5 ft. steps away from the harbinger.
So those mechanics exist in the game if you use Dreamscarred Press material. Combining them into one thing isn't that much more powerful.
>>44043089
>1+Wis
>not 1+Dex.
>No mention of Combat Reflexes
I'd probably still have that count as a feat.
Give them 1 less feat, and it should be fine.
>>44043085
>Is it really that big of a deal for most people?
I've just found there isn't as much pressure to act with voice as there is with text, and I'm a lot quicker with what I'm trying to convey my character is doing by saying it, rather than writing it out.
I don't know, I guess it's because I have zero shame in saying what my character is doing.
>>44043075
Speak for yourself.
>>44043085
>I still don't see why so many people hate text-based games.
I have to wait for other people to type everything out. Everything takes forever, and nothing gets done.
>>44043130
>6d6 fire damage every round.
Better find a way to get fire immunity
>>44043085
>not especially interested in a game that's gonna have ERP, at least not with strangers.
You'd prefer ERP with people you know?
>>44043171
What do you think I am, Not A Wizard?
>>44043130
I was actually going to write the Brijidine as well, but then I realized you can't actually touch her without dying.
>>44043113
I will be using DSP material, but not on nameless military troops. Officers and skilled warriors will be initiators, but I wanted something simple and neat for the line troop.
>>44043114
1+wis mod is how it works in 4e, anon. I am trading in other class features for this class feature, so I don't see the need to spend feats on it.
>>44043155
Don't play with people who are slow typers. I've been in a text+voice game for a while, and it hasn't been an issue.
>>44043126
>>44043155
Personally, I enjoy the slower pace because I'm more laid back about the game. So it's a plus for me. I also find a lot of people are more detailed and thoughtful about the role play when it's done via text instead of voice. Maybe that's because it's slower, and gives them more time to consider it?
>>44043113
Mixing and Matching PoW/ToB abilities is not a bad idea, either.
I've had the occasional fun with PCs fighting enemy casters (say, a druid) and suddenly one of the PCs realizes "Hey wait a minute, that was a wizard spell!", and then I smirk, shrug, and we carry on with the game.
What would fix the Medium? Better saves? Better BAB? Better spell progression? Lay it on me.
>>44043113
Elric, neither the attack roll penalty/arcane spell failure rate from Armiger's Mark stack, right? (Assuming two warders, that is)
>>44043155
I've found it the opposite. For every line of text, you'd get like five minutes of off-topic banter and jokes in a real life game.
>>44040907
Well, for the Skull and Shackles: THE DARKEST TIMELINE game that I'm running, we also have a huge big man huge party, except one of the chicks:
>German Socialist Doctoral Candidate from the mid 1920s, stands at 6'7''. Literally from Germany, as he got swept up in the Reign of Winter Incident.
>The world's tallest Halfling at 6'5'', an Aasimar descendant of the Angel of Vengeance. Parents got killed by Cyberdemons when the World-Wound burst and Numeria finally fell.
>Standing in at 6'4'', a human Symbiat who tries and fails to be the single edgiest character in the party, over taken by...
>Clocking in a 6'3'', a human Rogue who's first act aboard the ship was to sneak up on one of the "enemy" crewmen, and permanently blind him by way of slashing his eyes.
>At 6'0'', a young human female incanter. Not much going in the way of her backstory other than a supreme fear of pirates.
>At 4'7'', an Irish-American Heiress from the 1920s whose backstory is basically "Biker Amelia Earhart". Has basically adopted Caulky Tarroon as her younger sister, much to the Captain's (Caulky's adoptive father) approval.
Now, of course, as this is THE DARKEST TIMELINE, they're working with Captain Barnabas/Chelish Counter Intelligence and have sanction to lead a mutiny against Plugg and Scourge once they take the Man's Promise.
>>44043190
In Pathfinder you only get *1* AoO each round unless you take the feat. Hence my suggestion of dumping a feat slot. Combat Reflexes as a class feature would be a pretty damn good one, especially if you have abilities that are making people trigger AoOs in nonconventional ways.
You're upping their action economy significantly, that's all.
>>44043223
Better class features.
>>44043238
>text games don't get as sidetracked.
That's true, if you have an easily distracted group.
My (meatspace) group stays fairly on task.
>>44043174
Well I mean, people I know online as opposed to strangers I just met online. It's not something I think I'd be willing to do offline in a meatspace game regardless of whether I know the other players or not, unless it were like a one-on-one game with my GF/BF or something.
>>44043187
>but then I realized you can't actually touch her without dying.
That just means you have to cast Protection from Energy before you romance her, then cast it every minute thereafter as the resistance is eroded. Make sure you have a Ring of Wizardry III, so you can keep casting. And remember, a lightly singed dick is a fair price to pay.
>>44043267
Fair enough. I mean, I enjoy both, just for different things. I don't really play with randoms in either case, only good friends, so it's mostly just a difference in storytelling.
We tend to have text be better at "playing the game as a ttrpg with friends", and talk being more "chilling with friends and playing a ttrpg"
>>44043232
By RAW, a creature can have more than one Armiger's Mark applied to them at once. Also by RAW, the penalties are untyped, so they would actually stack.
I'd recommend against doing this, though. I would probably say its much safer to have new marks replace the old.
>>44043283
>casting protection from energy
>not just casting resist energy
Resist Fire 30 bro, it's pretty good.
>>44043246
>In Pathfinder you only get *1* AoO each round unless you take the feat.
I know that, anon, I've been playing 3.pf for 6 years.
I'm not worried about the action economy because only 1 mark can be on a foe at a time, so there won't be a case of 3 guys all marking one enemy and piling on him. It is case of "you are here now, and you will stay until one of us are dead or I miss".
And I argue that getting the equivalent of Combat Reflexes as a "bonus feat" built in is something of note, rather than a rote move.
>>44043313
>its much safer to have new marks replace the old.
You mean how 4e handles marks?
>>44043323
6d6, though. You could still roll up to 36 damage. Can you imagine the agony of having your dick squeezed by 6 points of fire damage?
>>44043238
>>44043267
It really does depend on the group. I've done so many text RPs that worked really, really well, and being text-only made it more immersive, especially if people's voices didn't match their characters (not even men playing women, but nasaly men playing grunty barbarians).
Group I'm in now does text RP but we banter in voice while we do it. It's nice to have that split between a visual IC stream and an auditory OOC stream, but it can be hard to concentrate on writing and stay attuned to my character's emotional state and thought processes when the banter really gets going.
>>44043330
Essentially, yes. I've done it all three ways:
1. Marks Stack,
2. Marks overlap but don't stack
3. New Marks Replace Old
And the only one that is really an issue is 1. So you can make it work however you want, that's just my recommendation.
>>44043378
Neat. My group has two channels, one for IC and one for OoC, which is nice for keeping banter, die rolls, and rules discussions separate. I've been DMing a game for a bit over a year that way to great success.
Is melee totally out of the question for 1/2 BAB classes? I like the idea behind the magus, but I was looking for CHUCK LOTS OF FIREBALLS to supplement it, which the sorcerer is far better at.
>>44043344
Using the liquid ice alchemical item as an extra material component for Resist Energy can increase the fire resistance it provides to 36. Now go put your wizard hat on and then pound that booty.
>>44043344
That's what hardness is for.
>>44043405
Really wish there was a trait that added 1BAB/level for up to 5 levels to help alleviate that.
>>44042508
Well that WAS literally what it got hyped, advertised, promised and whatnot as. That and PFS legal.
'Course then half of it gets banned and the other half is Level 9 Vancian casters, and none of it is remotely like a psionics system, and the parts that aren't vancian casting suck harder than most things have ever sucked before...
But most of these folks actually BOUGHT the book before they could see that, and some of them *LOVE* that it's all vancian.
>>44043405
Red/Gold Dragon Disciple sorcerers might scratch that itch.
>>44043344
Just use an asbestos condom.
Alternatively, the Fiery Aura spell from Giantslayer. It grants you the Fire subtype, which gives you inherent fire immunity for 1min/CL.
>>44043058
wait what
THAT'S what they look like in this setting?
>>44043470
>And the parts that aren't vancian casting suck harder than most things have ever sucked before...
Were you excited to find out the wildly impractical, extremely long, costly, and potentially dangerous ritual the Monk has to undergo to unlock all of his chakras basically gives him Fortune for like two rounds and a couple of abilities worse than the UnMonk's ki powers? I sure was.
>>44043466
In fairness, while I'd love to play a character like that, it's not fair for arcane casters to get all the best magical toys and then get fucking 3/4 BAB on top of it.
I mean, it wouldn't really make them much better, but it's the principle of the matter.
>>44043474
I've been looking at dragon disciple, I mean it'd involve taking a somewhat crappy bloodline in my opinion but it might just do it.
>>44043171
Fire Res 30 will also do the trick
And Fire Res 20 can keep things relatively safe if you also have fast-healing 1 though it'll be uncomfortable.
>>44043508
The dragon bloodline's actually not that bad, especially if your levels are going to get into the double digits. It's not AMAZING, but it's probably the best blaster bloodline and the energy resist+natural armor+unlimited flight are neat.
Since the Living Legend was so well recieved by you guys, Viking Bossman said to share another one of the finished archetypes for our upcoming Psionics Augmented: Occult playtest.
So, here's the Gambler, a kineticist archetype with psionic powers in place of wild talents, and an emphasis on a high-risk, high-reward playstyle, with the ability to keep goingALL DAYif their luck (and skill) holds up.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19y_V3-_cKBzTYiFwt5M3Tij7ahQoPPt9XLTE1wreV68/edit
>>44043470
So, can you have both in the same setting?
>>44043541
...Hot damn. Was the original name "Lick My Asshole 'Till It Shines, Bulmahn"?
>>44043562
You can, but other than the Spiritualist and maaaaybe the Occultist and/or Medium they're not really worth applying into the setting.
>>44043580
Of course not. That'd be unprofessional.
>>44043580
>Lick my ass, up and down
>Lick it till your tongue turns DOO DOO BROWN
>>44043541
Making it official that there is nothing that DSP doesn't do better than Paizo... Good lord this looks like fun
>>44043623
100/100 senpai
>>44043344
Let's be honest here.
Would you go through the trouble of fucking a fire spirit when you can just as easily bang raw sunlight given a perfect human form, or a silver-haired titty monster Archon that are probably compatible with humans?
>>44043541
What a neat concept.
I'll have to play around with this.
>>44043541
>Literally fixes all the Kineticist's issues
God damnit, you really want us to your cocks, don't you?
B-baka
>>44043635
Because when you are a wizard who's goal is to fuck the unfuckable, you have to dream big.
>>44043632
>>44043500
>THAT'S what they look like in this setting?
Yeah, what did you think they looked like?
>>44043541
I love it!
Except how it replaces all talents with powers, which makes it another psionic "caster" instead of something unique.
>>44043541
Forrest. Forrest please. You're making me want to be a bitch for all of DSP at once. Stahp.Please don't stop.
>>44043058
There is not a single thing about that image I don't like.
>>44043606
>>44043672
Trumpets. Lantern archons look like lanterns after all.
>>44043705
This is the first of two kineticist archetypes planned for Psionics Augmented: Occult, the second of which will be keeping wild talents and being more of a standard kineticist, while still taking steps to fix their problems and make them more fun to play.
>>44043740
Are you disappointed you did not get a flying trumpet, but rather a chesty silver-haired woman that uses a trumpet?
>>44043745
In that case cool, got no problems with this.
>>44043745
You mean like making it more like the Warlock attempt it was meant to be? Because if you can make it feel like that, I'd love it forever.
>>44043770
I'm not saying I'm disappointed, although with an outfit like that you could really say she puts the trumpet in strumpet.That's okay with me though, that's one of my fetishes.
>>44043745
>the second of which will be keeping wild talents and being more of a standard kineticist, while still taking steps to fix their problems and make them more fun to play.
All I wanted from the Kineticist was for it to not be trash.
If you guys can make the Kineticist not trash, you will have earned my eternal loyalty.
>>44043882Lewd pure girls are everyone's fetish.
>>44043541
So, is your new company mandate to re release all of paizo content, but actually well designed and playable?
I'd there a psionic spiritualist in the works?
>>44043934
No. There's not much worse than some cock tease.
>>44043971
It's only a cock tease if they'renot putting out.
>>44043961
There is indeed a psionic spirtualist in the works.
>>44043541
Know When to Fold Space looks amazing, but I'm not sure about its power level. I mean Abrupt Jaunt in 3.5 was considered kinda rigged as a Wizard ACF, and that was just fixed 10ft, Int times per day.
>>44043934
What about prim and proper sluts?
>>44043995
You can like both, in fact I'd argue a modestly dressed slut in a party with a lewdly dressed pure girl would be great.
>>44043988
Abrupt Jaunt was mostly rigged because it was attached to the wizard, though. People rarely dipped just to get it or anything.
>>44043934
I can't even disagree with this.
The fact I have a MASSIVE nun fetish won't allow me to.
>tfw the 2 girls you are banging both show up at your place wearing nun's habits
>>44043987
+1, will purchase.
>>44043987
Any plans for a Medium?
>>44044033
>The fact I have a MASSIVE nun fetish won't allow me to.How do you deal with the inevitable priestess or Aasimar Cleric in a campaign?
>>44044059
It already exists. Living Legend.
>>44044059
>>44044063
With his dick, I would assume. I guess some people are into some alternative methods, though.
>>44043672
>Yeah, what did you think they looked like?
>>44044063
>How do you deal with the inevitable priestess or Aasimar Cleric in a campaign?
I imagine granting her access to "the D" would be the most appropriate course of action.
>>44044063
>>44044088
Would still.
I wanna marry aSeraph of Devastation
>>44044033
It's not just nuns, anon.
Try playing a handsome, virtuous male priest some time and see what happens.
Vestments are like catnip.
>they don't have a sexual relationship
So that means she's available.
>>44044117
Pretty much all the Good Outsiders make A+ husbandos or waifus, anon.
Personally, I'm a fan ofValkyrie,but that's very region dependent.
>>44044140
>So that means she's available.
It says as much in the "Habitat and Society" section, where she is said to frequently take mortal lovers.Her relationship with Cayden just shows how much of a worthless drunk he is, though.
>>44044140
>The most famous of these is recounted in the "Tale of the Prefect's Wife," when Thais helped Cayden escape the kekolded husband of one of his paramours by dressing him up as a courtesan like herself.
>>44044239
>Wife cheats on husband, it's a joke
>Husband cheats on wife, it's a problem
>>44044288
Paizo logic
>>44044168
But Anon, she isn't good.
>>44044168
>Good
I have bad news about the image you're quoting, Anon.
>>44044305
>>44044288
Now I *really* don't want to be defending Paizo here, but is this actually a thing? Beyond this example, I can't think of any scenarios in Paizo material that featured a husband cheating on their wife, or a wife cheating on their husband.
>>44044388
Shelyn's writeup has a wife cheating on her husband, but it's totally okay because it's true love.
>>44044140
Man, imagine if ALL instances of Charmed Life worked like that.
>>44044424
Well, she wouldn't really be involved otherwise. Sex isn't part of Shelyn's domains.
There need to be weirder good outsiders.
So far it's been
>Angels are glowey guys
>Archons are just big muscle guys
>Azata and Manasaputra are actually pretty cool
>and the generic elves whose name I forgot
Why can't we have an ooze watching or a bestial Angel?
>>44044604
Aren't the agathions all bestial?
>>44043988
I'm gonna be honest, I could have sworn I had given it a daily limit, but apparently I forgot to. It's meant to be 1 + Con mod times per day.
>>44044424
A wife cheating on her husband AND a husband cheating on her wife, the example was a loveless political marriage.
To answer >>44044388 , the only time I've seen kekoldry in Paizo material was with Kingmaker Book 4, when you're infiltrating the Fort. The scummy governor was cheating on his shitty wife with that Daggermark spy, and that's about it.
>>44044604
Agathions are bestial.
What we need are "proper" angels as a class of outsider. You know, great interlocking rings, masses of eyes, wheels of fire, incomprehensible geographies, ect.
>>44044620
Pretty sure he meant Agathion on when he said Azata, because Azata are the Elfy ones.
>>44044641
Biblical angels would be pretty neat.
>>44044641
>>44044620
There's an Agathion for every race.
>>44044641
>What we need are "proper" angels as a class of outsider
Old Testament Angels? Those are present in some of the Archons and Angels.
That said, the whole "interlocking eyes" thing is kind of boring and overdone, no offense, so the "people with wings" actually feels kind of refreshing.
>>44044662
>Biblical angels would be pretty neat.
Old Testament Angels are freaky incomprehensible shit.
New Testament Angels are actually pretty damn human, which is a good piece of material to chew on in theology since that's the time God tried to empathize with Humanity (hence Jesus.)
When will we get a proper Qlippoth expansion.
Or an expansion for the other outsiders?,
I know there's a feat that lets non wizards forge magic weapons. Is it possible for a non-magical character to build a working construct?
>>44044641
>>44044604
>>44044692
>Okay, it turns out scaring the shit out of everyone by looking like terrifying incomprehensible conceptual beings isn't working so hot
>So I want all of you to dress more "humany" from now on. That means Burning Ring Of Eyes Fridays are cancelled. I know, I know, it helped foster some fun in an otherwise stifling professional environment, but image is everything these days.
>>44044731
After 13 generals go by without Qlippoth being mentioned even once.
>>44043422
Take False Focus feat, get a max swag 100gp holy symbol and never bother about alchemical power components ever again.
>>44044786
So we are damned to a life without a Qlippoth expansion, then.
>>44044795
What do you want? They appeared in Bestiary 3, got spotlighted in one of the APs, and one of the main deities was even confirmed to be one.
>>44043541
you turned burn into a non-HP combustion mechanic (bright-wizards).
I'm tempted to roll one of these up.
Not to mention "oh hey active energy type OR physical".
>>44044731
>>44044786
>>44044795
Well, we might get something with them in Strange Aeons
>>44043442
That's a nice joke. The whole affair sounds reallyhot.But hardness doesn't apply to energy damage.
>>44043506
There's an archetype for monk that focuses on chakras. It's in Occult Origins iirc. It's still shit.
>>44043130
>Literally hot as hell.
>Excessive maternal warmth when you're sick.
>Adores spicy food.
>Enjoys naughty limericks.
Holy fuck my heart (and my penis), I found my waifu.
>>44044837
It does, actually. DR doesn't affect energy damage, but energy damage gets cut in half and against objects in general unless it's something like fire on wood or sonic on crystal and then has hardness applied on top of that.
