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Gunblade or Lightsabre
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Which one do you prefer?
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>>43753418
Depends on the setting.
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Lightsaber is better in every way, gunblade is just one of the most retarded shit nips have evere created.
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>>43753418
Depends on setting, as always.
>>43753460
>nips invented paired melee/gun weapons
No. Just go away before you embarrass yourself any further.
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>>43753418
Can I have a pistol with a lightsaber bayonet?
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>>43753418
As shitty as FF13 was, Lightning's gunblade is a pretty sweet weapon. Squall's gunblade is a bunch of retarded shit.

FF13 gunblade > lightsaber > a sharp stick >FF8 gunblade
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>>43753460
Pretty sure that's not the work of Japan.
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>>43753460
Neither is this, for that matter.
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If the gunblade was a blade with a gun that can shoot, it'd be worth considering.
In the current case lightsaber, is uncontested.
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>>43753418
the lightsaber presents issues but at least it's not just straight up retarded wrist spraining garbage like the gunblade is
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>>43753418
>Lightsabre
You mean lightsword, right?
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>>43753524
No, JJ
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>>43753472
Didn't Henry VIII have a mace with gun barrels hidden inside it?
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>>43753418
Gunblade.
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>>43753567
Yes. Yes he did. The only nip thing about paired melee-gun weapons is having them be viable in industrial-era settings, AND THEY DO THAT TO ALL MELEE WEAPONS.

It's as shit a complaint as the 3eaboo 'realism' crowd defending magic outpacing other things.
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>>43753472
>>43753591
The Pictured Gunblade actually can't shot bullet. The gun part is just there to vibrate the sword while you cut.
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>>43753613
I'm pretty sure that technically, it fires blanks for that specific purpose. It's hard to use because if you pull the trigger too early, it'll throw of the aim of your swing.
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>>43753613
>The Pictured Gunblade actually can't shot bullet. The gun part is just there to vibrate the sword while you cut.
Which is a mechanic featured in
-If This Goes On by Robert A. Heinlein (1940)
-Honorverse
-Vorkosigan Saga
etc etc.
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>>43753472
>>43753504
>>43753514
You sure have no idea how that sword from the OP's picture "works". It's not used for shooting, it's upposed to vibrate a sword with a gunshot, which somehow makes for a mor damaging melee attack. I've seen a lot of retarded shit in videogames and movies, and that shit is one of the worst.
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>>43753418
There is just something about pretty much all fantasy gunblades I have seen.
They all look fucking retarded and they don't even seem more practical than having both a gun and a blade.
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>>43753710
I do. I've played FFVIII.
Also >>43753676
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>>43753418

This.
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>>43753502

No that's pretty retarded too.
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>>43753676

Could you be so kind as to give a quick synopis of the weapons that feature this mechanic in those books?

Also, >>43753502 would be my perfered gunblade of choice although I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Velvet Nightmare.
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>>43753748
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>>43753748
That's a pretty viable option, since it doesn't necessarily hinder the aim with any weight.
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>>43753788

The problem isn't how you use it as a blaster. Think about how you would be holding that as a lightsaber.
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>>43753767
>Could you be so kind as to give a quick synopis of the weapons that feature this mechanic in those books?
If This Goes On uses Vibroblades, knife-like weapons primarily utilizing vibrations as a means for faster and more discreet kills as the organ trauma is said to be multiplied several times over that of a traditional weapon.

The main character in Vorkosigan saga carries his pet impulse blade wherever he goes, the effects are described as far more savage and more alike in purpose to the FF vibroblades.

Honorverse is similar to Vorkosigan, but to be honest it's been so long and I found the series tedious enough that I've got trouble remembering details.
>>43753729
OH. And lest I forget, Star Wars itself has this too. IIRC there's even a "trigger" mechanic that goes off when the blad hits flesh, but I might be wrong there.
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>>43753418
Always lightsaber. Every time.

Also it's specifically "lightsaber" there is no British spelling.
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>>43753821
Like Dooku, you mean?
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>>43753821
Since the blade cuts almost effortlessly through most things the problem would arise only when dueling against other lightsaber users. These things don't weight much, carry a spare dueling saber?
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>>43753858
Not until some genius introduces the basket-hilt lightsaber in Episode VIII.
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>>43753878
>Effortlessly
There's actually an interesting question here. Do they? Because most Lightsaber forms seem to have quite a bit of force (hue) behind them, and going up against another user can easily mean you're toast if your strength isn't high enough to deadlock the obligatory shoving match.

TL;DR: I'd say there is at least SOME amount of resistance since Lightsaber blades are light but not immaterial.
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>>43753881
That would be a lightclaymore, sir, in the Queen's bowdlerization.
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>>43753881
>implying it won't be a lightflail
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>>43753920
I was mainly referring to cutting through blaster-armed opposition, which is what modern styles are all about, when you need to go against another user you get the spare saber. They don't seem to have a problem cutting through battle droids and armor while just flicking their wrist most of the time
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>>43753940
Eh, fair enough. Also, even though there can be an argument made about blaster shots not ACTUALLY flying that slowly (though it would be a shit one considering things such as the shot in the garbage compacter being reflected point towards them really flying at that speed) the actual fire rates of the things themselves are incredibly bad.

A handful of Mandos/Generation 1 Clones/any other appropriately disciplined fighting force could utterly wreck an infantry encounter with some shitty-ass WWII hand-me-downs after like 8 weeks of additional training.
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This thing from Rebels is a canon lightsaber/blaster hybrid.
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>>43753418
Clearly the only choice here is the Lightsaber.

If I wanted a fucking "gunblade" I would have just taken a regular fucking gun and gave it a fucking bayonet, because that's the only fucking kind of gunblade that is a legit, practical weapon that makes sense and is not stupid as fuck.
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>>43754084
I liked it so much more when I thought it was a lightsaber that could be disguised as a blaster or a welding tool.

Seeing it in action was disappointing.
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>>43754089
The Gunblade in the pic doesn't fire bullets. They're both entirely melee weapons.
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>>43753418
You know what's better than a lightsaber?
A fucking vibrosword.
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>>43754167
I've got that very sword.

Cost me 40 bucks on ebay.
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>>43754184
Well if some prick Jedi comes at you with his lightsaber, you'll be able to fuck his shit up. A vibrosword doesn't need a crystal to work. It isn't color-coded for the audience's convenience. It's not a poser's weapon, and it probably hurts more than being instantly cauterized.
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>>43754167
>A fucking vibrosword.
Is that a ladyknight exclusive or has chivalry become progressive enough to allow men among its users?
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>>43754216
That joke is the reason why vibrosword users are so pissed off at lightsaber users.
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>>43754228
Or maybe they're pissed off because they wield clearly inferior weapons?

Vibroswords a shit.
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>>43754228
I thought RSI was the reason.
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>>43754211
And while you're whacking a tank with your tuning fork, I'm gonna be cutting it like a hot knife through butter.
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>>43754089
>Compares one weapon to real life applications
>Chooses a lightsaber instead.
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>>43753418
This question is basically
>are you a weeb or a neckbeard

And yes, I have read the thread, and yes I know gunblades were a thing in the West. But the Japanese have an obsession with them, and put them in loads of shit. They appeal to weebs, and hence why people associate them with weebs.

So if you're asking me, do I want a fantasy laser sword, or a fantasy weeb gunblade (which the one in OP pic is) I'm going to take the lightsaber.
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>>43753852
I'm pretty sure none of those are an impractical, wrist-spraining setup and that they don't need the user to physically press a trigger to detonate an actual round in order to have a shockwave, not just rapid vibrations, go through the blade at a specific time.
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>>43753418

Porque no las dos?
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>>43753613

So it's like Sam's sword from Rising, but Sam has a more practical design?

Seriously, how do you use a Gunblade, anyway? Squall usually holds it like a longsword, but that hilt must make gripping awkward. More, Seifer holds his one like a pistol! It would make sense if you stabbed people with it, but this is apparently a slashing weapon.

A lightsaber, on the other hand, is just this invincible field that cuts through damn near anything. Unless you're that black guy in the new movie, who has trouble outfighting stormtroopers with clubs.
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>>43754298

It's the whole chainsword/power sword conflict again. In 40K, of all places, the power sword is infinitely better than the chainsword, which just falls apart when it meets a power field.

Then there are force weapons, which are better than both in that they're one-hit kills. Actually, I think this means that Inquisitors are 40K's Jedi Knights.
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>>43754756
Damn, you're right. We already have the combination of the two!
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>>43754759
Seifer just uses a different grip. Although his weapon isn't a revolver like Squall's.
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>>43753418
Lightsaber has better ergonomics. My wrist hurts just from looking at the gunblade handle.
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>>43754974
Nah, i think that's from masturbating too much from The Force Awakens trailers
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>>43753418

>Cut through anything given enough time and effort
vs
>Swing slightly harder cuz vibrations 'n shit

Gee OP I dunno
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A laser revolver with a lightsaber beam function, thanks.
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>>43753676
Don't forget Star Wars itself features vibroblades. AssCreed 4 has the pistol cutlasses too.
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>>43754792
Yeah power swords are basically just "how do we make lightsabres without being sued" the weapon.
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>>43754646
>But the Japanese have an obsession with them, and put them in loads of shit
like what?
so far we have listed FF 8 and 13

I've certainly never seen any others
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>>43758009
There is the ZAKT-8 from Tenra Bansho Zero, but the revolver part is just there to crush soulgems for a quick magical boost.
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Only good gunblade is Jetstream Sam's
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>>43753920
Apparently, Lightsabers create a powerful gyroscopic effect, which is why you need strength and training to use one. Also, you could just make the hilt out of phrik or cortosis metal to make it resistant to other lightsabers.
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>>43758009
go on crunchy roll and just flick through anime shows, you'll find them. can't give you any specific examples, cause my gf is the one whop watches anime, but I always see some tween with an improbable hair cut gadding about with one.
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>>43759601
Only RWBY and that's an American series.
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>>43754105
>Seeing it in action was disappointing.
Why? What does it do?
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>>43757858
Not really. Power sword is just a sword with a disintegration field around it, which most sci fi settings will need in order to justify swords.

40kRPGs do feature a plasma sword but they've only been mentioned a few times and never gotten focus,

>>43759817
It shoots little blue electric-looking bolts in gun mode, and is a regular blue lightsaber in lightsaber mode.

I'm still waiting for Ezra to be stuck in a blade lock with someone and while they're monologuing he just shoots them with the built in blaster.
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>>43753418
Lightsaber, easy.
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>>43759851
>I'm still waiting for Ezra to be stuck in a blade lock with someone and while they're monologuing he just shoots them with the built in blaster.

The battery can't handle doing both at once. Also, I'm hoping that little bitch takes it out of stun mode some day.
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>>43753748
The lightsaber/gun in Star War: rebels is better in every way
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>>43757767
>Don't forget Star Wars itself features vibroblades. AssCreed 4 has the pistol cutlasses too.
Yes, I said as much >>43753852 here.

>>43759115
>Also, you could just make the hilt out of phrik or cortosis metal to make it resistant to other lightsabers.
Those threads were great.

Speaking of which, why do Jedi seem so terrible opposed to armour? You'd think keepers of the peace would prefer good defense.
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>>43756614
Only appropriate answer so far
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>>43760256
>I'm hoping that little bitch takes it out of stun mode some day
Don't we all ?
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I don't hate gunblades but I'm pretty sure having a sword that could cut through anything is just handy
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