What are some things that could the way the world is dramatically? Some things to make stuff set on Earth a bit more interesting. Alternate history or predicted future, all things are cool.
Like the Atlantropa project, a series of dams and canals to drain the Mediterranean 200 meters and gain new land for Europe and Africa, coupled with a series of dams in Africa to fill the Chad basin, flooding a lot of Africa, creating a naval route from the Mediterranean to central Africa, and using this water to irrigate the Sahara.
The idea was first conceived in the 1920s by a German architect Herman Sörgel, and promoted by him until his death in the 1950s.
>>43751419
Drawing of said plans for Africa.
>>43751422
And some big gates to transport ships up and down 200 meters of elevation difference
Alright, good thread, thank guys. Though on the topic of Hitler, his plans for New Berlin were pretty great.
>>43754231
Or any of Stalins dumbass construction projects.
Le Corbusier had a bunch of crazy proposals through his life https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corbusier
>>43754680
>New Paris
Dude always dreamed of wiping away current cities and implementing some Mega City One style public housing hellscape.
The US was pretty close to using nuclear weapons to excavate tunnels, canals, and harbors.
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2014/ph241/powell1/
>>43751419
Cliche as fuck but... Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event impact was sliiightly weaker, which resulted in large land animals not being completely fucked over in the parts of the world furthest away from the impact.
Bottom line, evolution would happen as normal, except for Australia and NZ, which would still be dominated by dinosaurs.
Run-away greenhouse effect is always fun.
http://www.worlddreambank.org/D/DUBIA.HTM
>>43754955
>tfw live in Louisiana
Guess I'll try and go full Waterworld and grow gills
Some crazy rich guys could attempt a Pleistocene re-wilding in North America that gets out of hand. Lions, cheetahs, elephants, and mammoths roaming the great plains after the economy gives out and the government collapses.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_rewilding
>>43754955
>From Florida
Time to build a stilt house I guess.
Gonna throw up the rest of the series
>>43754735
You know in America we put people spread out across suburbs and small apartment blocks the way we do to reduce the effectiveness of enemy bombing runs.
American cities aren't very dense so strikes wouldn't be able to take out much of the population at a time.
>>43756388
This one probably represents the greatest level of human suffering.
>>43756428
India already contains a huge amount of human suffering to begin with.
>>43756236
Sweet, I think my house has just become a waterfront property.
Similar scale to the Mediterranean project
>>43751419
Wait, where exactly is all the water in the Mediterranean that they're getting rid of suppsoed to go? Evaporation? Yeah, there's this puddle in between Israel and Jordan showing you how well that's going to end. Pump it out? GLHF. And any overflow from Chad will apparently go into the Mediterranean, so that won't be an option to deal with what keeps pouring in once every thing's been established. Did Sörgel just hope the labourers building the dams would get thirsty enough working in the Mediterranean heat to drink a million billion pints of water?
>>43757830
They're going to pack it all in barrels, freeze it and ship it to the poles to fight global warming.
>>43754231
Obligatory
>>43757965
Fuck me, forgot pic
>>43756466
They literally have
DESIGNATED
SHITTING
STREETS
>>43757656
What exactly is the point here?
>>43754680
Le Corbusier was literally worse than Hitler and Stalin together, to be quite honest.
>>43758016
Irrigating the Mojave it seems.
>>43756236
> the swiss are still landlocked
>>43758052
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a crazy engineering project!
>>43758000
which will become designated shitting beaches
>>43756500
suck it Russia the north pole shall forever be Canadian
>>43754735
They actually did that in St. Louis, where much of the northern part of the city was demolished and replaced with the Pruitt-Igoe housing project.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, it became one of the most horrifying places in American history. The towers were lawless wastelands of rape, banditry, and murder. Within two decades, the violence had become so severe that 90% of the original inhabitants had either moved out or been killed and the project was all but abandoned. Even after the demolition of the site, the damage it had done to the collective psyche of the people of St. Louis continued, and that half of the city remains unsafe to this day.
>>43757830
Well the Mediterranean had already experienced a bit of drainage, there was a point where it was feared the Adriatic Sea could dry up, of course now with rising sea levels Venice is sinking and all, though if it was separated from the ocean it wouldn't be as effected from ice cap melt.
The dams would be massive hydroelectric plants that could power the pumping stations that would be required, like how the North America Water and Power Association (seen here >>43757656) planned for dams in some parts to power pumps in other parts.
A drained ocean world would be pretty crazy too.
>>43757979
I wish Wolfenstein had shown more of New Berlin in game than it did in these concept arts.
>>43758281
>>43757979
>>43754231
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>>43751422
Why does it seem like the world would have been much cooler had we allowed Germany to win in WWII?
>>43758260
Watched a documentary on this. Pretty awful stuff.
>>43756236
>Poland is an island.
Well they get their wish.
>>43758332
Fascism specializes in building huge awesome stuff, while that's pretty much the dump stat of democracy.
But we probably wouldn't have 4chan if Hitler won, so there's that.
>>43758264
I have given thoouht to such a world where the ocean is drained and all that's left are small seas around the lowest depths but I can never find any good maps. by chance could you give me the source for yours?
I'll trade ya a super continent
>>43758378
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003400/a003487/
>>43758367
Well the transcontinental railway, Hoover Dam and the interstate highway system are some damn ambitious projects a democracy achieved.
We really need to launch a big interstate restoration project or something though, or just a general effort to improve our infrastructure nation wide.
>>43758367
>But we probably wouldn't have 4chan if Hitler won, so there's that.
So...you're saying it would have been a better world?
>>43758332
You watching the man in the high castle?
>>43758982
The book/movie you're talking about is retarded "HITLER WUS RAYCISS AND WANTED 2 TAKE OVER THE WORL XDDDDD" bullshit.
>>43758264
Cooler but hey, lets face it half of us would have been purged.
>>43759191
Unless half of /tg/ consists of jews and gypsies your statement is purely retarded.
>>43759223
>jews and gypsies
And Africans. And disabled people. And people with antisocial tendencies. And homosexuals. And anyone who might ever voice objections to totalitarian fascism.
>>43759271
>>43759223
there are a lot of fags here for sure
>>43759271
Well if we grew up in a world with it, we probably wouldn't really have too much of a problem with totalitarian fascism.
We only don't like it because we're told not to.
>>43751419
>What are some things that could the way the world is dramatically?
I accidentally the whole world dramatically
>>43759271
Not to mention the mentally retarded
>>43759313
You're an idiot.
>>43759313
>>43759223
Careful guys, you're getting a little too close to Badwrongthink here, and janny doesn't like that :^)
>>43754913
If the extinction was slightly weaker than normal, evolution wouldn't go as it did in our world. Floras and faunas would be a lot more North America-dominated, mammal evolution would be drastically different due to the survival of zhelestids, many extinct marsupials, and other lineages that bit it at the KT, non-avian dinosaurs would probably survive in some form (like the smaller meat-eaters and ornithopods), etc. The KT wiped out just as many little critters that would have gone on to dominate the world if they had survived as it did dinosaurs and marine reptiles, and if the extinction was just a little weaker they would have survived.
>>43758367
>But we probably wouldn't have 4chan if Hitler won, so there's that.
Bullshit. While Japan might not Industrialise as hard, I don't doubt that they would ~eventually~ do so. Maybe in the '70s instead of the '50s. That leads to 2channel existing.
Something Awful is an inevitability in a fascist environment, given that there'll always be someone who wants to make a mockery out of human suffering.
The question of whether General Bullshit still exists, I don't know. Might get shut down for being political.
But where 2channel and Something Awful exists, 4chan exists.
Similarly, Tumblr and Facebook are inevitabilities. As are eBay and Amazon.
What might not exist are twitch.tv and reddit. twitch.tv 's success was a complete fucking fluke. While of course there'll be streaming sites, I expect twitch to not exist. Reddit is a bit more iffy in that Slashdot and Digg (its predecessors) will exist, but I'm not seeing the potential for a discus-anything website with a horrendous UI.
The internet is surprisingly unaffected by political landscape, given that the social dynamics which govern the internet are about human ~boredom~ more than about human aspirations.
>>43758052
Worked for the Hohokam. Until it didn't.
>>43758995
I'm pretty sure even Hitler would be pissed off at you for saying he wasn't racist.
>>43758264
>The dams would be massive hydroelectric plants that could power the pumping stations that would be required
Ok, so we're putting a dam where water wants to flow form A to B to get power. And we use that power to pump water form B to A. And this is the point where we realise that Sörgel spent thermodynamics class zonked out on morphine and absinthe, because even if you just want that thing to break even on power you got yourself the hydroeletric equivalent of a Villard wheel.
>>43760014
he probably was the worst kind of racist who genuinly thought he was doing the right thing.
>>43760140
You'll have more than one dam, as well as other power sources pumping water out, and a dam does hold back water, once it's out the only water getting back in is what the dam lets back in, or what goes over the dam if it gets too full, so it would take a lot of pumping, power and time, but it would work.
Combine the suggestions of the Slattery Report with a successful Rampart Dam project and you get a different looking Alaska. European Jews who escaped the Holocaust living is a slightly milder climate.
>>43760188
>>43760014
Take it to /pol/
