this is how I BBEG.
Why is people only getting Nox recently? I mean, Wakfu been out for years now
>>43604160
they stumbled upon wakfu porn and got directed to watch the show
>>43604187
Dickolocation
>>43604146
This is how I BBEG
>>43604250
I hate him
>>43604272
That's the spirit!
>>43604146
Finally I get to post the chart!
>>43604357
who's the guy in the elder god tier?
>>43604451
Ray Gillette
>>43604146
No you don't. You don't have the skill to pull off a villain like Nox
>>43604160
Recently? maybe its just a resurgence, last time i was here over 3 years ago... probably more? Wakfu was just airing and /tg/ was all over that shit.
some of the original subs were done by fa/tg/uys.
speakin' o' which, didnt they come out with a 2nd season? how did that go? (also didnt they come out with an official english dub?)
>>43604160
Nox has been regularly posted here since Wakfu first aired.
>>43604502
I just finished rewatching it. It goes pretty good.
>>43604502
It has, since long. It is pretty good. Its just. People have always been retarded toward Wakfu in the past (it was banned from /tg/, I remember well), but only recently has people understood how well constructed Nox was.
>>43604357
That chart is half-right, half-retarded. First off, your different tiers are badly separated, have no meaning or reason to them and have the same faults that you question on the villains themselves: contradicting yourself and only acting out of your want without concern for logical process.
You, dear anon, is your own most disappointing villain.
>>43604502
There is 2nd season and 3-series ova. In ova they went full retard with powerlevel. If they will ever make 3rd season, everybody will throw galaxies at each other or some similar shit, probably.
>>43604451
Ozymandius from Watchmen. Just having that there spoils the ENTIRE thing.Basically, he stops the cold war from going hot after it was exacerbated to the point of insane criticality by Dr. Atom pushing the soviets back far more than the US ever actually managed to do, what with being a near literal god. He does it by blowing up New York City with a fake elder god he grew in a giant vat, then filled with music, images, etc. from every abstract-horror artist he could find so that when it released it's massive psychic death shock, telepaths the world over would be struck with nightmares of some horrible other world. Soviets and NATO put aside their differences to work together to protect the world from interdimensional horror terrors. The entire plot of the book is how the 'heroes' are trying to stop him, even after it was made horribly clear that stopping him would have ended in nuclear war. Also they don't get the villain speech until 35 minutes after he launches it, and it's just the best villain line ever, what we've been waiting for every villain to say in everything we've read/watched up to that point. Pic related.
>>43604482
Maybe he meant he fails every time.
>>43604357
The ArchDemon shouldn't be in that slot, it should beCorypheus. Archdemon goes in the Midtier slot given what we knew of it even then.
>>43604160
Why are you only getting on 4chan just recently? Wakfu has been all over every even remotely relevant board since it came out.
This is how I BBEG
>>43604769
Vide >>43604712
What I meant by that most Wakfu retardedness came from the series in general, but now every night there is a "nox" thread.
>>43604357
I don't think the chart is quite right.
The best villain is the villain the players love to hate.
Regardless of whatever they do.
>>43604744
>Dr. Atom
I see what you did there
>>43604146
This is how I party leader.
>>43604741
The second season wrapped things up pretty nicely, so I don't think they'd make a new one
>>43604198
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
Consider that stolen.
My Bard now has a new ability.
>>43604797
Bester from Babylon 5 springs to mind.
This is how I BBEG
>>43605187
So. The ultimate question.which mistress?
>>43605243KeldaWolves are the only good option for the final fight
>>43604992
> Bester
> Springs to mind
That's kinda his thing, yes.
>>43605262same. The others weren't even considered. They were just hangers on, she had been with him since the beginning.
>>43604357
What tier would you put into a villain whose main motivation is to essentially become a villain on purpose, threatening the world in a controlled way so the fickle gods ruling over the land aren't bored of the lack of conflict and decide to fuck everything up for shit and giggles as they've done in the past?
Kinda what my campaign runs on, so opinions are always appreciated.
>>43604146
i think most player parties become this.
many of them stray into an "end justifies the means" mindset.
>>43605322
On that chart they would probably be in the Great Tier.
>>43604357
Come on, now. Nox is high tier. His actions are ultimately selfish and due to events that, though possibly beyond his control, his decisions save nobody but himself as they willingly and knowingly endanger everything else.
>>43605431
Yeah, dude was willing to tear the world apart for a shot at saving his family.
>>43605262Was she the qt grill from the prolog of the game? If so, I agree
>>43605587
yes
>>43604855
This is how I party leader.
>>43605682
>>43605709
>>43605732
What tier would a villain that terrorizes the general populous until he gets the hero's attention...only to reveal that he was trying to get them riled up and in the right mood to deal with the true BBEG.
Or a character that works for the BBEG purely because he knows heroes will line up to stop him, so he'll always be able to find a challenging fight.
>>43605732
that's an understatement
>>43605682
Damn, Griffith is such a qt. I'd stick it in her ... him? Fuck I don't know, I'd stick it in a fitting hole of Griffith, be it boypuccy, mouthpussy or a proper pussy
Anybody got a gif/webm of Milien running at the end of his origin story?
>>43606062
Him.He was actually a concubine when he was a kid so yeah...
>>43605866
The former is complete shit, the latter is mid-to-high
>>43606084
It was a one-off thing to get money for his mercenary company.
>>43606081
Only webm I got is this
>>43606084
>>43606117
Lol yeah I was going to say "You wouldn't be the first!"
>>43606062
>>43606125
I love that his movements are like the jerking of broken clock arms.
>>43606158
>Lol
Kill yourself
>>43606170
Yeah, me too. That's from the first season of the series, isn't it? Really have to watch it at some point
>>43606180
Please, tell us all how we should be typing on fucking 4chan you tremendous autist.
>>43604357
I like the fact that there's a list of different kinds of Villains but that ranking bit is retarded.
>>43606208
I mostly just hate that the 'penultimate tier' is exactly the same as 'high tier' and was included purely just for the creator to fanwank over Nox
>>43606084
So .... is there any good Hentai with him? Preferrably without Guts desu.
>>43604198
This really should be a common term, it affects so many things.
>>43606225
Last time I saw one of those pics posted Unspeakable Ancient One Tier wasn't there, and Cthulhu was somewhere around Meh or Shit Tier. Nox was part of Elder God Tier.
>>43605738
Thats less Barbarian rage and more "Great Cleave.webm"
Barbarian Rage.webm would be the scene when Guts cuts his own arm off just for a chance to try and throttle grifffisu with his bare hands and then screams in bloody rage as demons hold his body down and stab out his eye.
>>43606267
>>43606125
Za Warudo.webm
>>43606187
Yeah it's from Season 1. The season 2 villain isn't as high tier imo
>>43606280
yep, thats the one.
>>43605682
Fuck off
>>43606302
That shota has iron plated balls with a core of steel
>>43606302
It wouldn't surprise me if he'd rape that guy too. Just because he can.
>>43604146
I'd like to play a game with you. I get off in twenty minutes, is that good with you?
>>43606283
Qilby's alright, but nowhere near the same tier as Nox.
>>43604744
wait, a villain that doesn't monologue BEFORE he does the thing?
That's unthinkable.
>>43604744Just remember that just as Rorschach and co. deconstruct heroes, Ozy deconstructs villainy not only in not giving away his plan and how to stop him but on his plan being a band aid on a gaping wound despite being pulled off perfectly.
....just look at his name, that shit is not going to last.
>>43606283
>The season 2 villain isn't as high tier imo
You don't need to put 'imo' after you type out an objective fact. Just saying Anon.
>>43606450
imo that is a fail whale, baka senpai
>>43606302
HOLY SHIT.
I hope they don't kill that little BAMF for that...
I haven't been keeping up with the manga because "10 years of being on a boat" has gotten way too old for me.
>>43604357
>Putting Hannibal Lector in meh tier
>>43606238
>>43604146
This is how I familiar
This is how I Face.
This is how IFall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s3b5OR2YhE
>>43604146
This is how I BBEG
>>43607322
>stained with blood
>from monsters
Bruh.
>>43607344
What?
>>43606974
otp
>>43606283
Qilby was pretty good, just in a completely different way that's a lot harder to appreciate.
>>43607322
>>43607352
I cannot wait until all this ChunderFail faggotry dies off in a couple months.
>>43607344
>>43607352It's ketchup
>>43607391
Now that you mention it..
>>43607391
>>43607412
This version is still better, though.
>>43607352
Ketchup
>>43607344
>stained withketchup
>>43607376
>I hate popular things!
>I wish people would stop talking about things which they like!
>>43604146
Just reminding everyone why Nox fans are dumb.
>>43607434
I like it!
>>43607481
Don't pay attention to shitposters. Hide their posts and let them starve of the attention they crave.
>>43607511
Nox is, at BEST, tragically deluded but he's unquestionably villainous. He's still a good villain, but he's not morally ambiguous in the slightest.
>>43607511
Are you a literal retard or are you just being ironic.
Nobody actually thinks that what Nox did was the right thing, or justified in the slightest, just that it was very easy to understand WHY he did those things despite them being evil as fuck.
>>43607481
>Mediocre thing is only popular because of meme potential
>People won't shut the fuck up about thing they like
>People try to shove thing they like into absolutely everything
>People try to get people who do not like thing to like thing despite others wishes to continue not liking thing
>"If you don't like thing you are bad and wrong and WAAAAAAAAH"
>Thing dies off and is forgotten by everyone
I guarantee you that by this time next year no one will have any idea what the fuck Undertale is. It's a fad, and a stupid one at that.
>>43604466
just... wow
>>43607511
Not necessarily, I interpreted it like this:
Nox was well meaning, but flawed in that he couldn't take responsibility and accept the consequences of his actions.
He does say "If I fail I don't care if the world survives or not" or words to that effect, no it's not quite like the lottery analogy pictures it.
An actual hero wouldn't have taken that risk.
>>43607575
I'm sure that if you whine loud enough people will stop liking it.
>>43607572
>Nobody actually thinks that what Nox did was the right thing, or justified in the slightest,
Then why have I consistently seen people argue this?
>>43607575
And that's fine. It's not like there will be much left to discuss in a year's time anyway, unless the author makes content patches, which he's said he's not going to do.
But if you already know that it's going to pass, why kick up a fuss about it? All you do is galvanize the opposition and you end up encouraging the exact behaviour you dislike, so it is not only pointless effort, it is actively detrimental to your own cause.
Is it so hard to just not get mad? It's better for literally everyone involved.
>>43607756
Okay, fine, exception that proves the rule.
Some people are just morons who totally miss the point of the character, I guess.
>>43607575
>Thing is popular because it is entertaining
>People like to talk about this thing that they like
>People tell others about this thing that they like or just reference it in general
>People try to convince others that this thing is pretty good even if they have doubts about it at first
>"If you like thing you are bad and wrong and WAAAAAAAAH"
>Popularity slowly winds down but is still remembered fondly by those who enjoyed it
Oh wow, it's anything anyone liked ever
>>43606062
>boypussy
>mouthpussy
>>43607791
Stop biting!
>>43607820
Knowing it's bait and biting anyway is a sign of kindness.
>>43607820
But it looks sooo tasty
>>43607851
Or stupidity.
>>43607511
Of course Nox is evil. His motives are purely selfish (although preventing Ogrest's Chaos is a great self-justification) and he's completely crazy.
The simple act that he goes back to heal Alibert should tell everyone that he' has an unsound mind, since according to his doctrine it doesn't matter, and actively opposes his goal.
But he's believable, very understandable and even relatable.
Also, for a children's show, he's an EXCELLENT villain, because he creates a stong morale about the necessity of letting things go and not taking absurd risks.
Even if Nox had succeded, he would still have been a Villain. But a villain that happened to save the world. LikeOzy.
>>43607756
Never seen anyone argue this personally so ill assume you just bad the misfortune of encountering morons
>>43607511
Nox is fun because he's so delusional. When he sees his long shot plan finally fail, he turns into a pathetic shell of a person. Even Yugo, who unilaterally hates Nox at that point, feels pity for Nox.
>>43607983
He's technically already one physically
>>43605322
Would Aztec gods fall into that same tier? They fulfill basically the same function, demanding sacrifices to prevent star beings from destroying the world and the least "evil" one only demands animal sacrifice.
>>43608059
No technicality there at all.
>>43608126
Eh, it's normal for his kind
>>43608422
Nox isn't a Xelor.
He's a human who looks a hell of a lot like a Xelor.
>>43608441
If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
Also xelors are human
>>43608460
Everybody's human.
Nox doesn't actually worship Zelor, and in facthim reversing time made Zelor's job really hard.
Nox's powers come entirely from Wakfu and the cube.
>>43608460
Technically, everybody is human.
But Nox doesn't worship Xelor, and so cannot be a Xelor. In fact, he actively hates Xelor, and him going backwards in time REALLY fucked Xelor's clock up (even more than it was already, that is).
It's a technicality, but a fairly important one. Regular Xelor can't be as powerful as Nox was, that was all based on his mindset, and then boosted massively by the cube.
This is how Ichaotic evil
>>43607809
I-I don't know what to make of your post
>>43604146
Self-defeating?
>>43604160
I started watching /co/ dubs when the third episode was premiering.
They're on top of that.
>>43604357
> Breen
> Good
Fuck off with this meme. The entire chart is shit but this is where the pretentious levels reaches its apex.
>>43608748
Why did you do what you did Chrona. Why?
>>43608693
Cabotine hates Iop, doesn't mean she wasn't one anymore.
>>43608892
I would tell you, butI forgot most of the story desu senpai
>>43608959
Oh shit. New WordfiltersGotta test the other one: baka
>>43608695
This is how I chaotic evil.
This is how I street urchin PC
>>43610714
This is how I street urchin
>>43605682
GRIFFITH!
>>43607372
Quilby was a fairly simple villain done really well.
>>43608693
>>43608661
He's essentially an artificial Xelor via Eliacube, but pretty much a Xelor nonetheless.
>>43606759
I think they're trying to figure out if the assassins that wen't after him were sent by Griffith or if they did it of their own volition because someone smacked the crap out of their waifu. Or some weird 3rd party, idk.Either way he survived.
>>43604357
What about an awakened guardian who is fighting to destroy the enemies that threaten his people, not realizing in his ignorance that the ones he ought to be protecting have been gone for many years?
>>43611099
Yes?
this is how i vampire
>>43604744
It is also heavily implied that his plan ultimately fails.
>tfw a french animated series have fans on /tg/
Damn feels good to be french
>>43606302
>How about I slap god's shit.jpg
>>43611700
The cutest
This is how I 5E vengeance paladin
>>43611700
Literally the best.
This is how I dazzling display build.
>>43604712
To be fair, Wakfu was banned from /tg/ because we were discussing the show itself more than how to use the characters as springboards for character and setting concepts.
Also Wakfu discussion was in it's height less than about a month or two before the dark rule of Nazimod. Anything and everything not explicitly about gaming was banned. At times it felt like if you were talking about gaming and Nazimod didn't know of the system it was deleted.
This is how I Lawful Neutral.
>>43611639
*cough*
Fu... FUCK YOU!
>>43608959
>>43608892
Short version: Chrona wanted to be a good boy/girl for the world's greatest mommy.
>>43611639
Is no one gonna post a picture of Fento? Because, you know, Griffith looked like this last time I saw him. Fento? Yeah, Fento uses his face, but Fento ain't my Griffith, no sir.
This is how I dragon
>>43612598
Gotta love Niv Mizzet. Only old Nicol Bolas is a better dragon-sorcerer.
This is how I the party benefactor
>>43611923
Source?
>>43612969
Berserk. Manga part that didn't make it into anime.
>>43612969
Berserk.
>>43613010
>>43613011
Thanks.
This is how I present moral dilemmas to my party.
>>43611987
...what
>>43606302
Balls of neutronium, so dense they have their own satellites.
This is how I diplomacy.
>>43604146
Is wakfu actually worth watching? I'm a little confused as to exactly what it is.
>>43615367
A pretty great fantasy adventure cartoon with lots of HIPS and cool villains.
Yes. With subs, at least.
>>43615367
It's a French children's cartoon made in Adobe Flash. It's relatively amusing and well done, although every female character is uncomfortably attractive considering they're all like 15. I'd say watch the first couple episodesin French, with English subs if you don't speak the language. The English dub isn't nearly as good save for a couple voiceseven if you don't think you'll enjoy it.
>>43604250
>the entire PC's motivation throughout the campaign is to avenge a nigga moment with some guy
That would be hilarious although I'm someone has had this happen before
>>43615409
>>43615453
It looks a little more kid-y then I am strictly speaking into. To be expected from a children cartoon perhaps. Is it "good for a kids show" or is it good enough to watch regardless.
>>43615619
It's good enough to watch regardless. The villains (namely Nox) are pretty great, it has a passable amount of character development, and lots and lots of eyecandy. It could be said the French don't give a damn.
Some of the fights are pretty spectacular, too.
Just ignore how mind-boggingly hideous Adomai is and you should enjoy yourself.
>>43611716
How so?
>>43615825
Mankind is predisposed to violence
>>43612108
Sauce plz
>>43604146
The English dub for Wakfu on Netflix was terrible. Anyone know if the sub is any better?
>>43616181
I heard the usbs are better... doesn't netflix also have the subbed version?
>when the bad evil guy is so big that your party runs from the designated final boss fight
>railroading GM BTFO
>>43611535
Mid tier
This is how I terrible DM.
>>43611716
Only in the sense that he was (somehow) foolish enough to think he'd brought about ever lasting peace. He did succeed in stopping a nuclear war and bringing about world peace, even if only for a time.
And of course he may have well ushered in a 10,000 year Golden Age, Dr. Manhattan wasn't being specific in saying that nothing lasts forever.
>>43608101
The Aztec gods aren't evil.
The sun was created by one of them lighting himself on fire. Likewise the moon (that guy was too much of a coward to do the sun thing).
So it's only fair we repay their sacrifice in blood. Of note, Aztec nobles would pull barbed ropes through their tongues, ears and genitals to produce blood for the gods. Peasants did not have to do this, their blood was not as good.
this is how i bbeg
our sessions are always shitfests
>>43618399
that's pretty fucking brutal
>>43615705
French here : we dont give a single damn about eyecandy
>>43618068
>Ozy brings about the CoDominium
I feel somewhat conflicted
>>43618068
Well, the other implication that had is that Rorschach's notes would be published and could actually end up being taken seriously, which would basically destroy everything he worked for almost instantly.
>>43615348
This is how I diplomacy
>>43612140
You want to fuck me?
>>43611535
The idea isn't bad, but it all depends on the execution. It has the potential for villainous stupidity as well as good drama.
>>43615619
It's good enough to watch regardless.
However, the beginning of each season is full of fillers (before the boufbowl arc of episodes 10-13 in season 1), so it can be a little hard to get into it.
But I can guarantee that it's worth it, once it pick up the pace it's worderful.
Oh, and it's a french kid show, so expect sex, despair, death and heavy psychological issues.
>>43612108
This is how I Lawful Neutral.
>>43606800
He belongs in shit tier.
Far less interesting than Buffalo Bill.
>>43611700
Good taste, but this is how I vampire.
>>43605187
This is how I BBEG
>>43607511
The difference between the example in this image and Nox's plan is that the lottery is outright gambling where the odds are clearly less than being hit by lightning, while Nox's plan was a calculated risk where everything appeared to be aligned in his favor.
The worst thing you can say about him is that he could've saved everyone a lot of time and effort if he tested his time-reversal trick on a small scale beforehand to gauge the power cost, but the same voice in his head that gave him this idea in the first place was telling him "lol its fine just do you bro" and had him absolutely convinced that it wasn't a problem.
>>43604357
How about you scrap the good and evil bs and just call them antagonists?
>being a moral realist
>le cthulhu is the bestest
>>43611987
>in the last scene it is shown that the bird had a raisin the whole time
Intimidate counted by bluff.
This is how I goblin.
This is how I loud half-orc grannies which love to stuff adventurers with their stew after saving their village.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpUdHfLhuWY
This is how I midboss.
>>43620541
This is how I BBEG
>>43620953
Wouldhuntdownanddestroy/10
>>43620950
This is how I midboss
>>43620953
mid boss to that boss
>>43621024
wouldsquish/10
Good job, you're pretty good at this!
>>43621024
and for grunts we've got a bunch of these little cunts runnin about nippin at'cha ankles
>>43621074
>>43620455
THE WORST
>>43621145
It's simple: your waifu a shit!
>>43619546
Who would ever take the scribblings of a madman seriously? Rorschach's notes will be forgotten before they're even pupblished.
This is how I BBEG
>>43621182
Looks neat! Sauce?
>>43621195
Lisa: the Painful RPG
>>43621204
Thank you anon!
>>43621159
Mai waifu is perfect, aside from having a shit sister
>>43621221
...telepathic handjobs or telekinetic handjobs?
>>43621244
Telepathic sex, telekinetic handjobs
>>43621221
Filthy human trash
>>43621275
Spooky skelletons are fine too.
>>43621254
So what happens when you telepathically knock her up?
This is how I GM
>>43621498
Mind babies?
>>43621498
You telekinetically falcon punch her in the belly.
>>43612108
>>43620885
>>being a moral realist
>>le cthulhu is the bestest
This is after the chart was expanded by at least two different anons, each expansion making it worse.
>>43621221
>>43621275
You mean aside from being seasonal scum amirite.
>>43611700
GOD that smile :3
>>43620953
Ya know. My dick is quite conflicted by this image.
>>43621160
Other madmen?
Conspiracy Theorists?
>>43611700
>>43611883
Excellent taste, both of you.
>>43622388
You and me both.
Just what IS >>43620953, anyway?
While we're on the subject of Wakfu.
Anyone got a set of the original set of Season 2 subs? The ones that were up on the Brotherhood of the Tofu site. The SD Hardsubs. I got half the season, and just really wanted the full set to match.
And the HD's just take up way too much space for me to be able to justify to myself, or to be able to send to other people.
>>43605431
>>43605494
You're both dumb, the whole point is if he could go back in time, then it wouldn't happen! He'd save his family, then he wouldn't become Nox to fuck up the world!
You're all idiots.
>>43604723
>>43622168
lol, make one yourself, or improve the existing one!
You're just jealous I bet!
This is how I Intimidate.
>>43622143
Fucking thanks for the warning, I woulda looked it up otherwise.
>>43622994
He had no way to know that the life force of an entire nation =20 minutes' worth of time travel, but he knew using the MacGuffin for time travel was incredibly inefficient, and saving his family was a crapshoot even on the day he learned it happened, let alone spending years on a destructive plan to scrabble together the energy source the Eliacube uses.
>>43623049
This is how I intimidate
>>43621074
This is how I underling
>>43622143
But Anon, there's various levels of ShindoL. Are we talking cute cripplefucking or Dairy Cow's Life?
>>43621221
All I do is remember volume 8 of Battle Royale
>>43607809
What are you doing here, Rukia?
Shouldn't you be blowing your brother and the Kuchiki clan council off or something?
>>43623175
I assume you rolled a low number.
Rolled 14 (1d20)
>>43623371
Good job anon, you're only one day late to tell her that.
>>43623376
Let's see together
>>43612108
Might I ask a source, for the Googles give me twitter pages, IQDB, Tineye and Saucenao give me jack shit
>>43623376
Fun fact: Anderson would totally rek Dio in a 1 v 1 in season 1
>>43623491
If Anderson had a stand, what exactly would it do?
>>43623297
Maximum shindol.The loli is a trap.It won't be a trap by the end of it.
>>43623519
BAYONETS
>>43623531
>>43623519
Well, >>43623543 beat me to it.
I'd wager it would give him even more regeneration and make him akin to immortality, maybe give him extra lives?
>>43623551
I don't entirely get what you mean by your picture.
>>43623591
Lolis are spawning like cats
>>43623519
「Vater Unser」
Destructive Power: A
Speed: D
Range: C
Durability: A+
Precision: B
Potential: B
>>43623601
>2 loli
>>43623677
there was one before that.
before that none.
zero into one
one into two
pocket two to play
wait for more to spawn
>>43623663
Sounds about right.
He's also a professional vampire hunter, therefore he could stand a chance against Dio, if he has a stand.
>>43623491
Counter The World by throwing so many Bayonets into the air that Dio cannot physically approach him or hit him with any projectile attacks in the 9 second time limit he has.
AMEN.
this how i BBEG
also this how i PC
>>43623738
>Professional vampire hunter
In Hellsing's world, aside from neo-nazi pseudo-vampires, there had only been two vampires in the whole history of the world. Even if Anderson was a hundred years old, I doubt he would have the chance to kill many vampires.
He's a monster hunter, he just happened to meet Alucard and took him as a rival during the events of Hellsing.
