Find a flaw.
>40k
I cut my finger on the edge.
>We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, for he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
>>43596557
It doesn't give me sensual massage.
>>43596557
Lord of Night isn't in this it appears
>>43596854
Are you sure?
The chronology of how long they have been in the warp, fighting the long war, and just being alive as space marines is inconsistent between books.
>>43596557
ADB wrote it
>>43596557
Pathetic whiny space marines who have some popularity because they have a poor imitation of Joss Whedon snarky quips.
>>43596557
Gutless edgemeisters with a retarded "muh lightning n' batwings" aesthetic.
If you are older than 13 and like the Night Lords, you should feel embarrassed.
>>43600182
>retarded "muh lightning n' batwings" aesthetic.
lol, that's why I picked them!
Truth be told though, we all play with toy soldiers here.
>>43600182
The same could be said of all 40k really.
Octivia, one of the main characters in the book even said the biggest event in Night Lords history sounded childish. Right to their faces.
pic unrelated
Did anyone elseget a boner when Talos forced Octivia's limp body to look at all those Astropaths?
The only flaw I can think of is "Not enough ADB-style Angron" but hey! That's we have 'Betrayer'.
Nice try, OP, but this trilogy is as good as 40k gets. The only thing arguably better is, as I mentioned, 'Betrayer'.
If it's not about Lorgar it's about some stupid gimp not worth the time.
>>43600182
Say that to my face fucker not online and watch what happens :^)
>>43596557
>40k
>CSM
>ADB
>NL
In the first novel, Abbadon was written with arms. ADB was new at the time so I forgive his ignorance but it really hurts what would have otherwise been a good scene.
>>43597173
Any examples? Maybe someone can clarify.
>>43596557
It's right there. On the cover. For everyone to see. Please hide. At least try...
>>43597173
Can't that just be handwaved by 'the warp'?
>>43600182
Oh you! I'm a 27 year old man with a job and family and I can't wait to paint muh lightning n' batwings on my new models.
Like 40 CSM mange to kill millions of people in a short period of time without using mass orbital bombardment or chemical weapons or the like
I got cut through the screen on the edge.
Rip Uzas.
>>43600404
Not really, she says part of them never matured beyond childhood, which is true. They are taken at 11-12 and grafted/indoctrinated into killing machines, desensitized to violence and learn to kill for duty then pleasure. It is much easier to rewire and indoctrinate someone who hasn't had a life, a family or a set personality, and they make them into the best weapons the imperium has. SM are basically overgrown child soldiers.
>>43596557
It exists
>>43600438
No.
Though you have to admit it doesn't shy away from sex, with hergangrapeand then laterwhen Septimus knocks her upbut I had a heart boner for her and Septimus and I just wanted them to have that happy ending.
Fucking epilogue ;_;
They spelled "Aron" with two "A"s.
>>43597173
ADB acknowledged this in the intro to book 3. The expanding/changing HH information made his original NL fluff for the book no longer viable and admits the new chronology is a blatant retcon on his party.
I'm curious if the first two books will be edited to fit in with the new info in this new omnibus.
>>43600438
>>43600404
OctAvia, anons.
>>43596557
everyone except Talos is too god damn incapable
also Talos is a special snowflake with no warp touch Foresight is quite irritating
but i really like the way he write the books just that some part really get on my nerves
>>43604136
>millions
hmm i though there only dozens of thousands at best since they are survivor from space shipwreck
>>43596575
Winrar!
>>43605543
This series was actually what got my girlfriend interested in 40k. She was especially surprised by the number of scenes involving Octavia watching Talos half-naked, repeatedly being oiled.To my benefit
>>43606845
>being oiled
Where? I don't remember him being a custodes?
>>43596557
It's not about Ultramarines.
>>43596557
The boss fight in the end was confusing. How did Lucoryphus survive? Who reanimated him?
>>43596557
WH40K.
Big fucking flaw, right there.
>>43607138
>criticise something
>posts chinese cartoons
>>43607006
Anytime Talos puts on his armor, he's first covered in oil, and it's described form Octavia's point of view so there is definitely a sexual tone to it.
>>43607330
>there is definitely a sexual tone in it
Bad news for you anon, I'm afraid you caught a case of the gays and read that into it.
>>43607396
Anon mentioned his (likely fictional) GF got turned on by it
>>43607439
>a female
>getting turned on by anything written in BL books ever
Yeah, most likely fictional.
>>43596557
>set a trend for space marines being whiny cunts
>set a trend for strong, independent womyn characters who don't need no geneseed
>>43607552
>strong, independent
It's like you didn't even read the book
>>43596557
Spends too much time masturbating to how AMAZINGLY UNSTOPPABLE Space Marines are, at least in the first book.
>>43608343
But marines are SUPPOSED to be amazingly unstoppable. I'd say ADB probably has the best handle on how powerful a space marine should be, personally.
>>43609402
The main cause of death in space marines is stupidity.
>>43609402
Them being badass war machines is fine. The fapping about it on every other chapter gets old pretty quick, though.
>>43609402
He's certainly more consistent than other BL authors that /tg/ loves to wank over.
>>43610262
Yeah, I actually really don't care for Abnett. I like Eisenhorn, but even that has some issues that bug the crap out of me; mainly the breaks in writing that can be as bad as three paragraphs, then one sentence, then a two-sentence paragraph, and then three pages. The inconsistency there drives me nuts.
I LOVED the characters in Gaunt's Ghosts, but the narration was just so dry.
Horus Rising was incredibly boring up until the Interex were encountered. If nothing else, because none of the characters had any real distinct qualities and felt very same-y, especially everyone in the Mounival. I had a lot of trouble telling who was who in the Mournival because they were all just so unremarkable. ADB did a MUCH better job at developing personalities of the cast, both Space Marine and not, in False Gods, IMO.
And Brothers of the Iron Snake was just awful. It was a combination of the dry-as-fuck writing of Gaunt's Ghosts and the bland characterization of Horus Rising (but even worse).
>>43610371
>mainly the breaks in writing that can be as bad as three paragraphs, then one sentence, then a two-sentence paragraph, and then three pages. The inconsistency there drives me nuts.
Oh god I'm so glad i'm not the only one, there's nothing to puts me off from reading as much as that.
That and CONSTANT scene shifting to characters I barely even know.
What about "Talon of Horus"? Any flaws in that book other than being little Abaddon in it?
>>43610059
Ive only read a few books but I like that when he still doesnt make every battle a curbstomping. In Betrayer that last stand on Amatura with the Ultramarine Breachers was awesome, as was most of the bits featuring Loyalists in the Night Lords books
>>43607506
Boy Love books are pretty much geared towards females.
>>43610487
He portrayed Abaddon completely different to how I imagined him. I imagined him as a grand warchief, conquering countless warbands by the sword. Here, we have Abby, the guy in his ship, in the middle of nowhere, dicking EC with one strike. It's cool, but not grand.
I know there's more books coming so I'll give ADB the benefice of the doubt, he'll give him more power in later books I guess, but that book was meh for me. I learned more about the TS in this book than the BL. About that, he needs to qtop with his "BL is a new legion guys! It's not the Sons of Horus with a new paint!"
Yes it is. BL has always been a majority of SoH with a bunch of everything thrown in, to make an average legion, with no emphasis on everything.
>>43611129
>make Abbaddon a bitch to show off how fearless your OC is in one series
>keep him at meh tier in his own
I thought ADB liked the Black Legion?
>>43611351
That's probably rhe way he wants to start, I think he's supposed to do a trilogy, he has plenty of time to do some character development but yeah, it felt weird.
I'm still scratching my head over him catching Worldbreaker with the Talon. I mean yeah it's the Talon and it's just a clone of the original Primarch but still. It felt like Abby was the Primarch and the clone was a flimsy human.
>>43611400
The clone didn't have the blessing of the Chaos Gods.
Abaddon did.
The Chaos Gods made their intention clear. Horus must not be be reborn.
>>43611351
>Abaddon
>Bitch
Dude despite his few scenes in the novel was awesome.
Also the limited edition included a short story where Abaddon travels around the Eye and the galaxy. He visits the tombs of xenos kings and queens (probably Necrons). Abaddon during this first book was in his sage mode mediating on his purpose and future.
In the next book, Chaos Gods willing, we will see his a conqueror when he launches the First Black Crusade.
>>43611444
He didn't have the blessing at that time. He earned each blessing after long trials.
>>43611544
He still was a Chaos champion, he wasn't THE CHAOS CHAMPION as in being the Ascendant.
>>43596557
2 and 3 are basically copy paste of the 1st book.
3rd book basically copies plot elements from Lord of the night and tries to make sense of them even tought they dont.
super overrated shit.
>>43611568
Also the clone (or the revived corpse of Horus, it's not clear) was battered and bloody by the battle with the groups of space marine Abaddon brought with him. I bet that sapped an amount of his strength.
>>43611128
>boy love
>40k
Oh so that's how we market GW shit to girls
yaoi marines.
>>43611129
Very few Black Legionnaires would be original Sons of Horus though, since most of the latter died off early in their post-Heresy history. Which was the case even in their first incarnation, when they were the least numerous Traitor Legion, of unknown allegiance, and Abaddon didn't exist.
They'll still have new 'true' Sons depending on how much of Horus's gene-seed they manage to scrounge up, but then there's the whole thing with Abaddoo wanting them to leave their past behind (though I think it wasn't until the 6th edition supplement that the fluff finally explained how continuing to plaster themselves in Horus's iconography fit into that). Now it doesn't matter where your gene-seed came from, or which god you serve, so long as you're loyal to the topknot.
>>43611516
>Dude despite his few scenes in the novel was awesome
>travel to bumbfuck nowhere to convince MC to join him as an advisor
>MC looks you in the eye and tells you "lol no"
>pussy out and run
>awesome
>later in the book, other chaos lords are bemoaning Abaddon leading their warbands into yet another failed and pointless campaign
>awesome
>>43611826
Funny, I don't recall any of this.
>>43611888
Its all in the first book, Khorne senpai. The first part happens when Octavia gets kidnapped by prisoners the BL released. The second part happens right before Talos' group picks up those Raptors.
>>43611959
He was talking about the Talon of Horus novel.
>>43611959
I was talking about the "Talon of Horus", not the Night Lords Omnibus.
I haven't given the Night Lords series a proper read but from what I gleamed from my quick reading is that Abaddon didn't really care about the MC joining the Black Legion. He was just doing his Night Lord ally a favor by asking the MC to join. When the MC refused, Abaddon didn't really give a damn and returned to plotting his Crusade.
Ah...also in the Night Lords series there is a long speech the Exalted gives the MC on why Abaddon is so great.
>>43611798
>Daemon Weapon
>900pts
It better come with a free blowjob.
I can't op
>that scene where Vandred sacrifices himself as himself.
Uzas did nothing wrong.
>>43606269
Did you even read the book? He is warp touched, he's a repressed psyker like the Prince of Crows. It's also probably why he so adamantly tries to resist the touch of Chaos, knowing it would sweep him away into insanity.
>>43611606
It should also be noted that clones in 40k are soulless. The Horus clone Abaddon fought was now 100% Horus, it lacked the soul that made the Primarchs so special. The Clone was probalby dramatically weaker than all the other primarchs, due to lacking the special psyker powers that buff every Primarch.
>>43596710
>“We must live together as brothers or perish together as fools.”
>>43615014
I like Mercutian.
>>43610487
What I loved about Talon of Horus was the main character wasn't some special little snowflake. Nor was he some talk-smack-to-my-boss style edge-lord.
He listened to others, and didn't antagonise people just to look cool etc. He knew when to back off and leave someone more dangerous than him alone.
>>43612042
Depends on the daemon.
>>43611798
>all black legionnaires have hatred for other traitor legionnaires, space marines, and inquisitors
>checks out
I didn't really like Talos at the end and I found his justifications in his actions lacking from what I first thought of him at the start...though I assume that was the point, a character doesn't have to be likable to be a good read. I loved the books though.
>>43620674
I found it an interesting parallel that the more he found himself in the position of a leader, having to give directions and purpose to the bunch I murderrapists that were the 10th company, the more his thoughts and reflections grew closer to Curze's. The growing crazyness included.
No wonder both went out making a last stand or a last gesture which they found grand and significant but maybe less understandable for other people.
>>43600182
you take 40k waaaaay too seriously
>>43621315
>>43621338
Fags complain
>ADB writes chaos characters as too relatable
>Dindu nuffin. Loyalists bad.
ADB writes a series where the characters are bad and the protagonist is deluded.
>Ow the edge!
MFW
>>43611586
Yeah but have you read Lord of the Night? Void Stalker was kind of better. Zso Sahaal was fucking terrible. I started reading it for Night Lords and I kept reading it for the Inquisition plot line.That book made me a loyalist it was so bad.
>>43623066
well memed
Was first claw a terror squad?
No, I don't believe they or Tenth company had any special designation.
>>43626209
Is there mention of the 10th company in any other source of fluff?
>>43626428
Talos is mentioned in passing as, "The apothecary from tenth company", I believe in Prince of Crows.
Other than that, they're really not supposed to be anything special. It's to show that even those who were simple linemen during the Heresy have deep and interesting stories to tell after the Heresy ended.
>>43610371
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks that. I couldn't even finish Pariah.
>>43610371
Graham McNeil wrote False Gods, though.
