Warhammer: Age of Sigmar General
Plastic poo lord when edition
>>resources
pastebin.com/sQ5NryL7
Archaon coming soon.
The feeling when your the only guy who plays tomb kings and brings chariots to a knife fight
I present to you the only GW image of dwarf miniatures on round bases that i could find, and they werent even painted by GW. This is from visions 19. It depresses me that there is not even a single image of duardin minis in any of the AoS books or battletomes. I looked everywhere. Kinda makes me worried about their future.
>>43584045
I like that brownish-red & metal scheme, but yeah . . . that is a little strange now that you mention it . . .
Tzeentch-based army when?
How would you react if, in the next six months, GW decided that AoS wasn't working and rebooted Fantasy yet again.
Would it be the final straw? Would you try out the next game?
>>43585571
Would continue to play AOS because its fun and I enjoy it more than WHFB and KoW
>>43585571
It would depend on what game they make it into.
For me I played a couple games of whfb and didnt like it because, like 40k, it was boring and bloated with rules, on top of having an incredibly high startup cost.
Then AoS dropped and it fit what I was looking for perfectly. Quick and easy rules, loose system, low startup cost, free rules, etc.
If they drop AoS and decide to reboot whfb, then it would depend on what they do with it. Likely they would do a simpler 9e, more streamlined. Which I would be ok with. Also they would design it to use the same minis as current. Which I would be ok with because I have a collection already. Then they would most likely stick with free rules and army lists, which I would be ok with.
Basically if they decided to drop AoS and go back to whfb, if it's EXACTLY like old whfb, I would probably sell my minis. But if they decided to keep rules free and change to a streamlined whfb I would give it a shot. Because why not? I'm not gong to burn my collection on youtube or anything.
AOS is pretty good, though i would like to figure out a way to balance the game, right now im running hero hammer with my tzeench demons and some pink horrors just to fill the gaps, but let me tell you exhalted flamers and burning chariots are amazing, the more phases you can control in this game the more you win baseicaly. i see warriors of chaos not doing well because they have no power in the shooting or magic phase unless they actually try to focus it with allies or somthing.
>Lord of change
>2 burning chariots
>3 exhalted flamers
>2 heralds of tzeench on disc
> herald of tzeench on foot
was my army against this
>20 warhounds
> 2 units of 10 knights
>5 maruaders on horses
>khorn lord on juggernaught
i tabled the poor guy basicaly
>>43585571
I would go back to playing WHFB.
As i'm only in these threads to point out that you are the equivalent of battered wives. GW gives you shit and you slurp it up.
>>43584045
yeah ok im gonna steal that paint scheme. do you guys think it might work for dark elves?
>>43586706
Roman legionnaire seem better.
>>43586779
except, you know, im not playing historicals, or humans
>>43587247
But... But... They look cool.
>>43584045
Why? Dwarfs have been mentioned more times than Lizardmen have been and Lizardmen just got their Battletome, with less units in. So, your time will come. Hell, they've even already explained there are two Dwarf types, one which are loyal to Sigmar and one which are loyal to whomever pays them the most. Ergo, they're the Chaos Dwarfs.
>>43585571
I wouldn't care. GW wouldn't do it anyway. They'd just end the whole thing.
>>43587372
Nope. They can't be chaos dwarfs. They specifically mentioned the fyreslayers are worshipers of grimnir. They just go where the money and fight is, to please grimnir.
Chaos dwarfs wish to enslave everyone. Besides chaos dwarfs are a forgeworld thing, and forgeworld shit doesnt get mentioned in GW campaign and lore books.
>>43587396
So, there are now 3 Dwarf factions? Odd.
>>43587423
No. There are only officially in the fluff 2 dwarf factions.
Dispossed and Fyreslayers.
Chaos Dwarfs are just legacy warscrolls. Like Bretonians, Empire, etc,
>>43587444
For the moment. Lizardmen were legacy until they got their Battletome.
We'll see.
>>43587458
But chaos dwarfs are forgeworld. GW doesnt include forgeworld in fluff, or provides updates for that stuff. Chaos dwarfs will forever be legacy warscrolls
>>43587478
Yet GW has said that the rules for them are legal in AoS. Forge World could easily release a new book with them in. You're basically going "If they made a warscroll for Dread Saurian, it would be legacy, despite Lizardmen getting a battletome, cause it's from FW!"
>>43587498
Dude, I never said they werent legal for AoS, or that you couldnt play them in AoS. Thats the point of legacy warscrolls, to give you the rules to play them in the game. But this is GW were talking. When GW does the campaign books and repacks, they will never mention FW stuff or update FW warscrolls. Sure FW may release an AoS campaign book detailing the chaos dwarfs place in the mortal realms, but that will be FW alone entirely. GW wont do that for them.
So dont expect to see the chaos dwarfs ever get mentioned in an AoS big book made by GW, ever.
>>43587534
Chaos Dorfs got mentioned in End Times thou. Grimgor went back and destroyed everything.
Cannot un-see:
The tree guy is about to give the nurgle guy a highfive.
>>43585547
New Tzeench char in two weeks. ;)
>>43584045
>Kinda makes me worried about their future.
There are Duardin mentioned in every bit of lore that has been released.
>FOOLISH MORTAL! THINK YOU, TO TURN WARS AGAINST ITS MAKERS?
WE WILL FEED UPON EVERY BLOW YOU LAND, EVERY BLOOD DROP SHED, EVERY BONE BROKEN, AND EVERY SKULL SEVERED.
IN BATTLE WE WERE BORN, AND FOR BATTLE WE EXIST.
THE REIGN OF YOUR SWORD SHALL BE (??????) TO US, AND IN HOSTS UNCOUNTABLE WE WILL FIGHT YOU.
>FOR EACH ONE OF US YOU FELL, ANOTHER SHALL BE BORN INTO WAR UNENDING. BATTLE WITHOUT CEASE. TO THE END OF THE WORLD AND THE UNIVERSE BEYOND.
THE (????????) OF WAR CANNOT BE VANQUISHED!
>GREAT MAY BE YOUR FURY. YET THE HARDER YOU FIGHT, THE STRONGER WE SHALL BECOME.
>THERE IS NOT A BLADE FORGED BY MAN OR GOD, THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO US.
>EVERY LIFE YOU TAKE, SHALL BE A LIFE DEDICATED TO US. AND YOUR VICTORIES SHALL BE OURS AS WELL AS YOUR DEFIANCE.
-From the Audiobook "Aenarion".
The daemon herald of Khorne does make some good points in his speech to Aenarion. The points are still valid now since in AOS Khorne is the ascendant power whose armies both daemonic and mortal are uncountable and endless. Unending war across the realms has elevated Khorne in power so greatly that his brothers shudder in fear at him.
How can the Forces of Order defeat war itself?
>>43589237
You gotta fight fire with fire.
>>43589660
But that would only result in more fire
>>43589237
>Keep killing Khornate dudes until they are at such a level they no longer pose a threat.
>Build a fuck huge wall or something, I don't know.
>Live in peace behind the wall. Khorne guys eventually get pissed off they can't break the wall, they start killing each other. Now you just need to have witch hunters and shit patrolling behind the wall to handle any freak daemon appearances, or edgy chaos cultists.
>Khorne's power wanes to almost nothing, forced to feed off scraps of Orc/k infighting.
>Eventually Khorne get subsumed by Gorkamorka.
>>43584045
Should AoS put more emphasis on the Dorfs to make up for the lack of Squats in 40k?
>>43589794
no, it results in a lack of fuel for the fire and stops it spreading. That's what you do to control forest fires.
>>43589794
Do you know how they deal with oil well fires? With fucking explosives!
Watch the old movie Hellfighters. One of John Waynes better roles.
>>43587423
There were multiple dwarf factions even in WHFB. Fyreslayers are likely going to be the slayer faction.
>>43589994
>>Live in peace behind the wall.
Good luck with that shit.... Violence and hatred is internal in all races.
>>43589237
>believing the words of daemons
Ishygddt
>>43590670
He didn't say anything unbelievable. War feeds Khorne. Aenarion was going to feed Khorne more war by falling to Khaine. Khorne was just trying to tell Aenarion that "you can't beat by giving me more of what I am made off, you moron".
>>43584045
There are rumors that Dwarfs will get some kind of release in early 2016.
>>43587396
>forgeworld shit doesnt get mentioned in GW campaign and lore books.
Actually it does.
>>43587444
There are also those in Chamon who follow Grungi.
>>43590316
sie sind das essen und wir sind die jaeger
>>43591068
Daemons are manifested thoughts, if they speak is to make you believe something that will reinforce their being.
You must never ever treat daemonic words as anything other than lies. They may be closer to the actual truth, but, in an universe where minds shape reality, faith and ignorance can even overcome what's actually "true" at the moment.
In short, if khorne tells you every step you make gives him power and stuff, you say no and will for that step to fuck up his ass.
Does anyone know what's coming in this weeks White Dwarf? Is it more Horus Heresy stuff?
>>43595596
yeah and more 40k stuff. new techpriest and blood angel chaplain
>>43595596
Mostly painting stuff, with a few 40k things and an AoS tape measure.
Going by the Warhammer Visions likely for December 5th, it does appear that Assassins, a Blood Angels Terminator and Chaplain, and an Imperial Tank Commander and Enginseer will be released for 40k, likely alongside the second Damocles book.
>>43596494
>Imperial Tank Commander
staph. the tank commander is just part of the regular crew of the leman russ kit. stop spreading this misinformation. its not a new model.
>10 corsairs with repeater crossbows
>10 corsairs with 2 hand weapons
>2 scourge runner chariots
>5 dark riders
>5 doomfire warlocks
>1 Kharybdiss
>1 beastmaster on manticore
>1 black Ark fleet master
>1 Morathi
Ordered this on Ebay, models were in perfectly fine condition, assembled, unprimed, rebased for AOS on circular basesFor $100 plus a pittance in shipping
I'm not sure if that was a lucky find on a good deal or just someone who hated AOS so much they didn't care anymore. Either way even if you hate the game, still some great deals for great models out there if you're into collecting / painting.
>>43596815
Yeah, I'm not sure what it is either, but I've been picking up NIB or assembled but unpainted models for some pretty nice prices. That's on a Facebook group though, I can never find shit on Ebay because it seems to force me into my country's version or some shit.
>>43596673
Ah, my apologies, I'm not very familiar with the kit. In hindsight I should have remembered the $75 price tag and the fact that the Leman Russ doesn't exactly look new.
>>43589237
Well what about throwing Khornates into black holes, or make a gun that turns them into ash and traps their souls in their ashes so Khorne doesn't get them? Khorne can't their blood and skulls if they get bloodless deaths, so burn them all and turn their skulls into ash!
>>43594557
Or this. Probably this is easier.
>>43599370
For the Stormcasts supposedly being Mary Sue Smurfs, they sure spend a lot of time in the books getting their asses kicked and barely surviving Phyrric victories...
They also spend a lot of time fearing losing and being reforged for a race that is apparently "immortal." And even then some of them actually end up dying permanently because go figure when your soul gets sucked into the Warp it can't exactly be reforged now can it?RIP Thostos Bladestorm
>>43599575
This is what I like about them. They have an upper edge over regular mortals for dealing with chaos, but every battle still counts and ever death is still felt. Victory vs defeat still means something.
They are only immortal in the sense that they have so many chances. Think of a cat with 9 lives. Sure this cat may survive more times than regular mortals getting into the same shit, but he can't keep it up forever.
The Stormcast Eternals are kicking ass where it counts, but it is still an uphill battle against chaos.
Friendly reminder that the slann are out-justasplanned-ing tzeentch
>>43603846
Except for the fact that the Forces of Order (Slann included) have been outsmarted and outplanned for the entire duration of Age of Chaos. Also the Slann are senile, divided, and can't seem to agree on how to further their plans.
And they are all about to get curbstomped by Archaon in the coming campaign release.
>>43603877
just keep beatin your dick raw about Archaon, Carnac . . .
>>43603877
>have been outsmarted and outplanned for the entire duration of Age of Chaos. Also the Slann are senile, divided, and can't seem to agree on how to further their plans.
>implying
>he can't get that the slann HAVE A PLAN and everything is going just as predicted
Eheh
I just finished building a Plague Furnace and finished painting Plague Monks and I want to give AoS a try cuz what the hell.
Is there a reason I shouldn't field a Pestilens Clawpack battalion with 3 units of 7 Plague monks? The only trade off I can see is that the Plague Furnace can only buff 1 unit AND the battalion perk itself doesn't seem so poweful.
My list based on the models I own would look something like this:
Plague Priest - 5
Plague Furnace - 12
3x7 Plague Monks - 21
2 Poison Wind Mortars - 6
1 Warplightning Cannon - 6
50 wounds, 26 models
>>43604075
I will!
>>43604407
Each time Archaon smashes his plated fist into the fat faces of the Slann, I'll come over here and say "What it part of your plan?"
>>43604969
I just don't see any advantage worth splitting up your large blobs of plague monks. A couple of the battalion buffs may be nice, but plague monks need to stay in large groups because they are going to be really easy to kill and you need them to push around your furnace. They can't do that in small groups.
The battalion will only be beneficial I think if you have 3 groups of at least 15+. Otherwise for smaller games just keep your monks in one big group and keep them from taking battleshock tests, and use them to get your furnace close to the enemy.
Oh, and get a plagueclaw catapult next
>>43606299
Sorry but how exactly do I keep PMs from taking battleshock tests?
>>43606516
The stock command ability in the 4 page rules
>>43606530
oh thanks I forgot about that one.
Btw if I cast Arcane Shield on the monks will they get a 6+ save? It's not clear from the 4 pages
>>43605025
>implying that will happen or that you're not looking like even more of an idiot this way
You sound a bit butthurt pal, with all this resentment towards the lizardmen: lurking their book to misquote half truths, not actually quoting the bits when they trick the tzeentchian, trying to shut down people from asking for details or uploads...
Is it still about the rocks?
>>43606776
It's just inter-factional fan rivalry in response to provocation. If it was the Stormccast fanboys saying things that's not true, then I would have done the same.
And I am not misquoting anything. There is no bits about them outsmarting Tzeentch. Instead we have about them being a divided race with each Slann thinking that his plan is the way to defeat Chaos. Also there is the fact that they got wrecked with the rest of the Forces of Order in the Age of Chaos (Was it part of your plan?. Something people seem to conveniently ignore.
> trying to shut down people from asking for details or uploads...
What?
>>43606593
the white dwarfs specify that you dont, but we houserule that you can, just because we generally play by wounds and it adds some survivability to saveless models
>>43606938
>>43606593
I think that, all AoS books have a section called Hints & Tips, there is a paragraph implying that, "-" save equal to no save, no matter how many modifier apply to those model.
>>43608016
Yeah i forgot the big books had them as well.
Anyway, like I said, we houserule that you can improve a save of '-', generally because we play by wounds and it provides a little bit of survivability.
I also think it should be possible for saveless models to get some benefit for being in cover.
>>43584045
I think the FW chaos dwarfs are being used as Duradin the paint job they are using is red similar to these.. I think dwarfs are red now and mercs that work for chaos if you pay them. basically they are making Chaos dwafs no longer chaos dwarfs and kind of like skaven... evilish but really just like "elemental dwarfs"
>>43585737
im pretty sure one of the projects the new specialist game studio will work on will be a new game system that is in the style of WHFB but doesn't use WHFB minis.. I know that sounds silly but pretty sure of this. like a "experimental 9th set in a different unique FW only universe " personal I think FW just lost Horus Heresy and that's what that post on the FB was about. it sucks but if it lets FW make up its own universe that would be cool right? or maybe not.. idknow. id like some thing realistic but still crazy mable like battlecars
>>43587372
actually the two dwarf types the loyal to sigmar ones are inside sigmarine armour they are not "dwarfs" they are part of the mixed race society that lives in ayzr.. so basically there is only chaos dwarfs but they are no longer chaos. I think FW is painting them up right now to feature in the books.. could be wrong thou.. look at the red paint sceme going up on the Legion of Chaos dwarfs product pages and in the newsletters at first I thought it was a personal project but I think its ment to match the GW style sort of like the betrayl at clath repaints/upgrades that FW painters clearly did but to feature in GW advertising. . I think once this stuff goes down with specialist studio now being the new name for FW we might see FW in AOS books with the chaos dwarfs.. .maybe even Eavy metal is having a crack and some of the weirder FW models they would look nice in the AOS books I think.. but I think its a question of how much GW is willing to show... could be wrong thou and the Duaradin could be the next army shown off.. that would be cool. but its going to suck if they take heaps from Chaos dwarfs but are just like bigger and better. I feel Korne Bloodborne where a stopgap like no design work whent into that army its very basic and I feel they literally where just placeholders till they worked out what was "army 2 for AOS" they probably spent ages working on sigmarines to get them just right.. there is a theory all the armys will be like them like tank and stuff but im not so sure. but unfortunately the korne guys are so vanilla and simplistic and "old WHFB style" its hard to tell what the hell will happen next. like lets be honest Korne guys in the box could literally just be legacy models its hard to tell.
Hey, marginally related as it had an end time, but who or what is Agrax Earthshade named after?
>>43587478
Duradian are clearly described as chaos dwarfs even if they don't actually use chaos dwarf models for them they ultimately will always be chaos dwarfs if you run a RPG set in AOS and they never get around to them.. they are chaos dwarfs.. by every thing other than name.. its that simple really. the Dwarfs that are not friends with elementals and into money and working for chaos for money are not actually a dwarfen army they are just dwarfs living in sigmars city. because its been 1000 years thous dwarfs will not be organized or like they where ... sure you can use the chaos dwarf models with a warscroll but if you notice they clearly state these are NOT cannon.... its interesting.. with FW in shops and stuff any thing is possible. but right now a lot is unclear I think they have intentional not shown dwarfs because they eather are the first updated army after Sigmarines or they are chaos dwarfs and there is a internal debate over featuring FW or not.
>>43587534
no actually the legacy warscroll for chaos dwarfs is diferent to the others it clearly states they are infact squatted lore wise and died completely at the end of AOS... then to mention the normal dwarfs in AOS are like chaos dwarfs basically implies that they are going to use the CD models. they are just waiting for them to get painted which they are doing right now. But the Duradin are comparable to the skaven and not the chaos dwarfs they are no longer Chaos and just Firedwarfs AbbisalDwarfs... etc etc.. its weird its almost like AOS is sounding like 9th age or KOW now :p I think its honestly just going to be a weird transition but the chaos dwarf models are defiantly not squatted but I think the lore might be and every thing might get renamed in a new official GW battletome
>>43608853
Pretty sure agrax is a 40k thing right?
>>43608800
>>43608891
>>43608949
If I can discern anything from these senseless big blocks of text is that A) English is not your first language, and B) You think the Duardin in the mortal realms, the sons of Grungni that Sigmar sent the Celestial Vindicators to go broker an alliance with are actually Chaos Dwarfs? If so, then you must be smoking some good foreign weed.
