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Armistice Day Edition
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>Wargaming Compendium
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>Saga
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>Warmaster Ancients
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>Advanced Squad Leader
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>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!
11th of November in military history:
1673 – Second Battle of Khotyn in Ukraine: Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth forces under the command of Jan Sobieski defeat the Ottoman army.
1778 – Cherry Valley massacre: Loyalists and Seneca Indian forces attack a fort and village in eastern New York, killing more than forty civilians and soldiers.
1805 – Napoleonic Wars: Battle of Dürenstein – 8000 French troops attempt to slow the retreat of a vastly superior Russian and Austrian force.
1813 – War of 1812: Battle of Crysler's Farm – British and Canadian forces defeat a larger American force, causing the Americans to abandon their Saint Lawrence campaign.
1831 – In Jerusalem, Virginia, Nat Turner is hanged after inciting a violent slave uprising.
1839 – The Virginia Military Institute is founded in Lexington, Virginia.
1864 – American Civil War: Sherman's March to the Sea – Union General William Tecumseh Sherman begins burning Atlanta, Georgia to the ground in preparation for his march south.
1918 – World War I: Germany signs an armistice with the Allies in a railroad car in the forest of Compiègne, France. The fighting officially ends at 1100hrs.
1918 – Piłsudski assumes supreme military power in Poland - symbolic first day of Polish independence.
1919 – The Centralia Massacre results in the deaths of four members of the American Legion and the lynching of a local leader of the IWW.
1919 – Latvian forces defeat the Freikorps at Riga in the Latvian War of Independence.
1940 – World War II: Battle of Taranto – The Royal Navy launches the first aircraft carrier strike in history, on the Italian fleet at Taranto.
1940 – The German cruiser Atlantis captures top secret British mail, and sends it to Japan.
1942 – World War II: Nazi Germany completes its occupation of Vichy France.
1968 – Vietnam War: Operation Commando Hunt initiated. The goal is to interdict men and supplies on the Ho Chi Minh trail, through Laos into South Vietnam.
It is 97 years since hostilities in the First World War ended with the Armistice. It went into effect at 11 a.m. Paris time on 11 November 1918 ("the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month"), and marked a victory for the Allies and a complete defeat for Germany, although not formally a surrender. The Germans were responding to the policies proposed by U.S. President Woodrow Wilson in his Fourteen Points of January 1918. The actual terms, largely written by French Marshal Ferdinand Foch, included the cessation of hostilities, the withdrawal of German troops to behind their own borders, the preservation of infrastructure, the exchange of prisoners, a promise of reparations, the disposition of German warships and submarines, and conditions for prolonging or terminating the armistice. Although the armistice ended the actual fighting, it took six months of negotiations at the Paris Peace Conference to conclude the peace treaty, the Treaty of Versailles.
Although the information about the imminent ceasefire had spread among the forces at the front in the hours before, fighting in many sections of the front continued right until the appointed hour. At 11 am there was some spontaneous fraternization between the two sides. But in general, reactions were muted. A British corporal reported: "...the Germans came from their trenches, bowed to us and then went away. That was it. There was nothing with which we could celebrate, except cookies." On the Allied side, euphoria and exultation were rare. There was some cheering and applause, but the dominant feeling was silence and emptiness after 52 exhausting months of war.
Many artillery units continued to fire on German targets to avoid having to haul away their spare ammunition. The Allies also wished to ensure that, should fighting restart, they would be in the most favourable position. Consequently, there were 10,944 casualties of which 2,738 men died on the last day of the war.
An example of the determination of the Allies to maintain pressure until the last minute, but also to adhere strictly to the Armistice terms, was Battery 4 of the US Navy's long-range 14-inch railway guns firing its last shot at 10:57:30 am from the Verdun area, timed to land far behind the German front line just before the scheduled Armistice.
Augustin Trébuchon was the last Frenchman to die when he was shot on his way to tell fellow soldiers that hot soup would be served after the ceasefire. He was killed at 10:45 am. The last soldier from the UK to die, George Edwin Ellison of the 5th Royal Irish Lancers, was killed earlier that morning at around 9:30 am while scouting on the outskirts of Mons, Belgium. The final Canadian, and Commonwealth, soldier to die, Private George Lawrence Price, was shot and killed by a sniper just two minutes before the armistice to the north of Mons at 10:58 am, to be recognized as one of the last killed with a monument to his name. And finally, American Henry Gunther is generally recognized as the last soldier killed in action in World War I. He was killed 60 seconds before the armistice came into force while charging astonished German troops who were aware the Armistice was nearly upon them.
Celebration of the Armistice became the centrepiece of memories of the war, along with salutes to the unknown soldier. Nations built monuments to the dead and the heroic soldiers, but seldom to the generals and admirals. 11 November is commemorated annually in many countries under various names such as Armistice Day, Remembrance Day, Veterans Day, and in Poland it is Independence Day.
It is 75 years since the Battle of Taranto, fought between British naval forces, under Admiral Andrew Cunningham, and Italian naval forces, under Admiral Inigo Campioni. The Royal Navy launched the first all-aircraft ship-to-ship naval attack in history, with a small number of obsolescent Swordfish biplane torpedo-bombers from the aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious in the Mediterranean Sea. The attack struck the battle fleet of the Regia Marina at anchor in the harbour of Taranto using aerial torpedoes despite the shallow depth of the water. The devastation wrought by the British carrier-launched aircraft on the large Italian warships was the beginning of the ascendancy of naval aviation over the big guns of battleships. According to Admiral Cunningham, "Taranto, and the night of November 11–12, 1940, should be remembered for ever as having shown once and for all that in the Fleet Air Arm the Navy has its most devastating weapon."
Codenamed Operation Judgment, Cunningham and Lyster planned to attack Taranto on October 21, Trafalgar Day, with aircraft from HMS Illustrious and HMS Eagle. This was later changed following fire damage to Illustrious and action damage to Eagle. While Eagle was being repaired, it was decided to press on with the attack using only Illustrious. Several of Eagle's aircraft were transferred to augment Illustrious' air group and the carrier sailed on November 6. In the days before the attack, several reconnaissance flights from Malta confirmed that the Italian fleet was at Taranto.
Given these events, the RAF advised against the raid. They were afraid that a failure would result in the improvement of anti-aircraft defenses of the Italian harbour. But their warnings were ignored and the raid went ahead to devastating effect. Italian anti-aircraft guns were confused by flares set off by two leading planes; these also successfully illuminated targets.
Aboard Illustrious, at 2100hrs, 21 Fairey Swordfish biplane torpedo bombers began taking off. Eleven of the planes were armed with torpedoes, while the remainder carried flares and bombs. The British plan called for the planes to attack in two waves about an hour apart. The first wave was assigned targets in both the outer and inner harbors of Taranto.
Approaching the harbor from the southwest at 10:58 PM, the first wave of 12 Swordfish found 6 battleships, 7 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, 8 destroyers in the anchorage. As they began their attack, the sky was illuminated by flares and intense, but ineffective, antiaircraft fire. Around midnight, the second wave of 9 Swordfish arrived over the harbor from the northwest. Dropping their ordnance, they cleared the harbor and returned to their carrier.
In their wake, the 21 Swordfish left the battleship Conte di Cavour sunk and the battleships Littorio and Caio Duilio heavily damaged. They also badly damaged a heavy cruiser. British losses were only two Swordfish. In one night, the Royal Navy had succeeded in halving the Italian battleship fleet and had gained a tremendous advantage in the Mediterranean. As a result of the strike, the Italians withdrew the bulk of their fleet farther north to Naples.
The Taranto Raid changed many naval experts' thoughts regarding air-launched torpedo attacks. Prior to Taranto, many believed that deep water (100 ft.) was needed to successfully drop torpedoes. To compensate for the shallow water of Taranto harbor (40 ft.), the British specially modified their torpedoes and dropped them from very low altitude. This solution, as well as other aspects of the raid, was heavily studied by the Japanese as they planned their attack on Pearl Harbor the following year.
Cunningham wanted to strike Taranto again the next night with Swordfish (six torpedo-bombers, seven bombers, and two flare-dispensers) – one wag in the pilot's room remarked, "They only asked the Light Brigade to do it once!" – but bad weather prevented the action.
Taranto has all the elements of an awesome wargame. The Swordfish were totally obsolete but performed superbly, and the Italian's confused reaction could easily have been more determined if things had gone their way. Most WW2 naval systems carry extensive rules for torpedo bombers, and correspondingly most WW2 aerial wargames include a naval element. This would be a real white-knuckle experience for both players as the British race to get in-and-out before the Italians can organize and fight back. Tally ho!
By frustrating coincidence, Osprey have a Campaign on this very battle coming out literally next week. Until we can get it though, their Elite on the FAA in WW2 covers it in detail.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k1n7x19o4mxfwky/Osprey+-+ELI+165+-+British+Fleet+Air+Arm+in+WW2%282%29.pdf
Today I have been building some Tankodesantniki.
>>43578563
>>43578563
>>43578708
Asuming you will paint it...
That will be a bitch to paint.
Should have painted infantry and tank separately. I would have left the tracks apart until the hull is painted too.
Anyway, it looks good. Bolt action, isnt it?
>>43578563
>>43578708
remove moldlines comrade
Have any of you guys here worked with Wargames Factory miniatures? I just bought a shitton of them because it seemed like a good price and I'm waiting on delivery. But I'm a bit suspicious. Are they shit?
>>43579083
15mm. FoW im gussing
>>43579529
>15mm
but anon; those clearly are 28mm
>>43578227
>webm
Fucking Christ anon, why.
>>43578563
>>43578708
Really well done considering the figure weren't made to sit on vehicles.
>>43579385
Had some Germans, overall not bad, proportions are much better than, say Warlord's, but those seem a bit more lifelike since they are sculpted traditionally instead of digitally. Tho once they're painted up, they look cool, and their US chaps contain some neat weapons. The sorely lack heavy weapons sadly, and most 28mm WW2 ranges are effin bubbleheads.
Overall, if you got them cheap, you won't regret them. I'd get Warlord's figures in case I wanted 28mm WW2, but if you're in the US, WGF is the better option.
>>43579529
>>43579575
From here, they look Warlord 28mm. And yeah, if they are glued anon, my dead Anon, you fucked it up, HARD. Like...no questions asked summary execution bad.
>>43579842
what's wrong with webms?
>>43581489
I almost cried from this one ;_;
Ok..Hinds suck really really bad in Flashpoint Campaigns:Red Storm. The results of about 90 minuets of Hind violence in a ongoing head to head game.
1 of my Infantry companies reduced to a shattered squad and another infantry company reduced in half....
cost him 7 of his Hinds though. Not really a fair trade off.....but I have to console myself with something.....
>>43579899
> And yeah, if they are glued anon, my dead Anon, you fucked it up, HARD
>>43579083
>That will be a bitch to paint.
>implying I'll ever get around to painting them
I figured that painting them like that is going to be easier than trying to pose them all separately without gluing them down, then painting them and the tank individually, then ruining the paint job when I glue them into place, then redoing what's been painted.
Realistically though, it's all going to get super speedy "Spray into block painting into dipping" jobs anyway.
>>43581595
It makes me sick knowing all of those men died only for their nation to be handed over to foreigners 100 years later.
>>43582808
At least they didn't live long enough to see thier ancestral homes turned into moslem ghettos, unlike the ww2 guys.
>>43581660
I remember them being essentially useless in SP:MBT too. The excellent Soviet-Afghan War campaign had you using them in large numbers, but they were just so many big fat flying ducks. They might get a shot off, but then some grubby muji with his RPG-7 pops up behind a crest and boom, no more Hind. Flying NOE was the only sane option, but even then as soon as you passed over some harmless looking shrubbery out comes the rocket and down you go. When that happens four times in two turns it does provide a perspective on why the Sovs lost there.
>>43578352
>>43578332
>>43578311
Here's a nice little film on the battle published today by the Royal Navy Historical Flight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49UJmraQlc0
>>43581660
yeah big slow helicopters just dont do that well against stingers
the US have the right idea: using their apaches more stealthily, and using them as FAC for F-16s and guys who can actually deliver ordinance safely
>>43578563
izzat 28mm? looks like 20mm to me....
bravo!
>>43584676
definitely larger than 20mm. My guess is 28mm or 1/64
pic is 1/72 T-34 with keyboard for scale.
>>43584676
It's 28mm
>>43584583
>>43583264
Umm I guess i wasnt clear.They suck as in facing them. the enemy hinds just flew through and devastated my 2 trip lines....almost 2 companies of infantry have ceased to exist from the hind fire in about 90 minuets time
I have a very large hole where my first line of defense used to be.
and out of the 30+ hinds hitting me all I managed to do was get 7 of them
>>43585621
30+ is a lot though I guess.
anything in numbers in a focused attack is going to be pretty devastating. unless you have SPAAGs and SAMs up the yin yang and a coherent IADS working, you're probably going to be in trouble until you can thin out their numbers.
Hi,
Does anyone have:
"Over the Top!" - Warhammer Great War Supplement ?
EMERGENCY BMP!
>>43588093
>EMERGENCY BMP!
Like this?
>Armoured Ambulance Tracked vehicle was developed by CVRDE on a modified BMP-2 chassis for evacuation of battle field casualties with excellent medical care. It has been designed with provisions to carry four stretcher patients or two stretcher and four sitting patients or eight sitting patients with two medical attendants. Equipped with Defibrillator for continuous ECG monitoring, automatic external defibrillation and pacing, NIBP and pulse oxymetry, ventilator for artificial ventilations, suction unit for removal of abdominal fluids, refrigerator and conventional medical equipments. It is air conditioned with 3 ton AC for crew comfort. Ordnance Factory, Medak has manufactured and issued production vehicles to the Indian Army.
>>43588159
yeah, kinda
>>43588236
Is that the design where the rear doors are diesel tanks?
>>43588282
yup
>>43588282
That seems to be a bad idea.
>>43588814
>That seems to be a bad idea.
Official Motto of the Soviet Union
>>43578291
> Henry Gunther
Poor bastard. He got demoted from sergeant to private after a letter to a friend complaining of the shit conditions got intercepted by censors.
According to a newspaper report based on interviews with his squadmates;
> 'Gunther brooded a great deal over his recent reduction in rank, and became obsessed with a determination to make good before his officers and fellow soldiers.'
The last man to die in the war was just trying to prove himself.
>>43589044
>charging german machineguns alone one minute before the armistice
The futility and vanity of one man, actually perfectly symbolizing the entire war.
>>43589160
Imagine how mind-boggling it must have been for the Germans.
Anyone have a pdf of "In Her Majesty's Name", a Victorian-era steampunk-ish skirmish wargame from Osprey?
>>43582399
>pose them all separately without gluing them down
blu-tac man
From the Team Yankee Facebook page:
https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-1.pdf
>>43587020
It's our Eldorado or some other hard to find thing.
>>43585621
>minuets
I keep thinking you're talking about blowjobs
>>43583264
The Soviets lost because of many things, but it was the Stinger, not RPGs, that took down Hinds. Before that, it was party hardcore for the Crocs.
That is, until you fly too close to a bombardment area and a some of that steel in the air takes your tail off...
>>43588958
>>43588814
Technically, diesel isn't that terribly flamable (didn't they use it for wet ammo storage in some WWII tanks) and they would be emptied and filled with sand before battle.
emergency bmp
>>43591018
https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-2.pdf
https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf
That site has several good reads hidden in the list.
>>43593417
Of note, FM100-2-3 is the one to go for first for wargaming since it is basically all information on unit structures, numbers of tanks in regiment, that kinda thing.
Hey all....thinking of putting up a open challenge to everyone here for a PBEM++ game of Flashpoint Campaigns Red Storm. Who would be interested?
its all done in game. so no need to email me or me email you. One of the things Slytherine does great with their PBEM games. all done through there servers.
>>43591346
>but it was the Stinger, not RPGs, that took down Hinds.
Tell that to the bastards in Steel Panthers!
a tune for your evening, good sirs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCf0WYEKho
>>43598563
Oh yeah, Steel Panthers is full of shit like that. Tanks missing infantry/technicals all the time, no automatic "stop shooting pistols at tanks", no faction-wide morale, etc.
>>43578291
Why does no-one know who the last German killed in the war was? Does no-one care?
>>43578708
>>43578563
Is that a Rubicon T34?
>>43604424
>Does no-one care?
Well the Allied ones are attested because people researched them, clearly some German WW1 scholars need to answer that question. The same could be asked of the Russians, Italians, etc. I would say that information was lost, assuming it was ever recorded. The German armed forces had broken down so much by that point no-one was really keeping track anymore. Did find this though:
>Historians generally (but not totally) list a German soldier by the name of Lt. Tomas with being the final German casualty. He was killed after the 11th hour by an American unit that apparently hadn’t received word of the cease-fire.
But being killed afterwards technically would make him the first victim of the peace I guess! Also German forces in East Africa were still operating, as were some U-boats, so even they could have some candidates.
>>43604431
It is indeed; the kit can build a T-34, T-34/85, OT-34 or OT-34/85 - and can be switched easily between any of the four.
>>43604681
I'm very interested in Rubicon kits, are they better then the Warlord Ones?
>>43604706
Haven't interacted with the Warlord kits but the range of options in the Rubicon kits makes them a win in my eyes.
>>43578227
>>43579842
>>43581595
>>43582808
Video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3-Gt7mgyM
>>43606066
Prefer this one to be honest
>You the last one? Right lad, just follow the tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RJCSMG1yTE
And when they asked us,
How dangerous it was.
Oh! We'll never tell them,
No, we'll never tell them.
We spent our pay in some cafe.
And fought wild women night and day,
T'was the cushiest job we ever had.
And when they asked us,
And they're certainly going to ask us.
The reason why we didn't win the
Croix de Guerre.
Oh! We'll never tell them,
No! We'll never tell them.
There was a front but damned if we knew where.
>>43606146
Bugger
>>43606281
>tfw you will never go back to work at Pratt & Sons, keep wicket for the Croydon gentlemen, and marry Doris
For some reason it's very hard to determine Blackadder's regiment in that series, and I think they may have smudged the design of his regimental badge to avoid specifically linking him to one. Nonetheless it does bear a resemblance to the laurel & castle of the Suffolks, and I could easily see the Blackadders hailing from there - after all, there's a town there called Bury St Edmunds.
Any sources for DBA 3rd army lists? Already have the rules.
>>43608019
What scale is that? 10mm?
>>43608685
its a GHQ 6mm I think.
>>43608764
Oh, cool. It seems to be quite detailed for its scale.
>>43608809
GHQ stuff is pricey but the best you'll see at 6mm. Many of the sculpts are more detailed than other 10mm/15mm companies.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/330720/
Flashpoint Campaigns:Red Storm 20% off sale on Steam right now
>>43609237
New expansion pack by the look of it, though I am disappointed the base game's price is still pretty predictably high.
>>43609469
yeah..new DLC released today as well..Germany Reforged.
kinda why they did the sale im thinking.
>>43609469
>the base game's price is still pretty predictably high
I don't understand the pricing model of wargames.
In the internet age communication must increase their market extraordinarily, but they nearly all continue with a pricing model from the days of back of magazine mail ordering. It cuts out anybody that's half interested or curious but remotely budget conscious.
>>43610216
>I don't understand the pricing model of wargames. In the internet age communication must increase their market extraordinarily
not really. niche market of a niche market. back in the 70s you could do an inital print run of 30000 units and youll make money on it and probabley do more print runs. Some games in the 70s had over 100000 copies printed. Not anymore. Most print runs of games today are lucky to hit 5000 now. and rarely do they get 2nd print runs.. sometimes less. Less gamers out there buying games now days. need to charge more to break even. a lot of hex and counter..and computer wargame companies struggle to just keep going. Hell even MMP, usually only does about 1000 copies for their games. Computer games do work a different formula with digital downloads but even then you not seeing much differance in ammount of units being bought.
a good example is the John Tiller computer games. He has a series of App games..that mostly run for $2.99 to $3.99. Now these are straight ports from games he has already developed for the computer. only work done on them is converting them to mobile use. He has...oh...15 of them...almost all of them only have about 100 downloads. so hes made....maybe $6000 on the apps. factor in what he has to pay the app stores to host them...the design and development of the games to mobile use....not making to much money in the end
>>43610812
Mobile apps seems like exactly the wrong market, hell I'd go as far as it being entirely the wrong interface to push a wargame on.
If a game doesn't meet the requirement of 'can this be played whilst taking a shit?', then it's not good for mobiles and probably won't sell. Wargames can almost never meet that requirement.
>>43611316
Board game adaptations are pretty popular on ipad, but imo their potential complexity is limited because people mostly end up playing them on the train or whilst shitting or any other time they just need to kill a few minutes.
They're not gonna sit down to put in the time to play a proper wargame all the way through.
Texan BMP
Anyone got a scan of Modern Spearhead?
>>43611316
I play this cool little thing called Sid Meier's Ace Patrol: Pacific Skies, and it has a remarkable amount of depth and nuance for a mobile phone game. Missions take 5-10 minutes bit require a bit of thought, skill and luck, and the campaign system is addictive. It uses "cards" to control action; you collect and play them poker-fashion, trying to save the right moves and hoping your cards come up right. Reminded me a bit of Wings Of War. Good ol' Sid, the Microprose spirit lives on.
>>43614509
Is the Texan BMP from some kinda dedicated OPFOR unit for exercises?
>>43617810
Actually anon it's from the Twilight 2000 RPG, in this case the Soviet Vehicle Guide. In that timeline, the southwestern US is invaded by a Marxist Mexico, Cuba, and the Soviet "Division Cuba". It appears this particular vehicle has quite the storied history!
>>43578563
MOLD LINES
Dude, as much as i like your tank riders, remove those fucking mold lines. They look terrible right now, and it will only get worse once they are painted.
>>43579385
Which miniatures did you order? Their newer stuff is fairly good, some of their first boxes are really bad.
Since you posted WW2, i can offer you my opinion on their WW2 russians (i have a box of US too, but haven't build them yet).
Some poses are great, detail of the miniatures is good enough for their price. Detail of the weapons is bad compared to Bolt Action or Perry, but i don't consider this a huge point because of the scale.
What bothers me the most is the huge amount of bodies standing totally upright. like they want to peak over some high fence or something. Nobody would rise his head that high in a combat zone.
Pic related.
>>43604760
>>43604706
This. Price is roughly the same, but the rubicon kits offer tons of options and while the warlord kits aren't bad, the lack that. At least some of them. Panzer 3 and 4 and the Stug 3 made by Warlord can be build in different variants too.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/954318608/miniature-wargaming-the-movie
>>43621459
>A limited edition and special feature miniature of one of the most famous gamers, the author H.G. Wells, who wrote one of the first ever gaming rule sets, will be produced and available only via this Kickstarter. Permission has already been granted to support this initiative.
>>43621459
Thanks for posting. I saw it on facebook a few days ago and wanted to pledge but forgot about it.
>>43618704
I am actually disappointed. I know the US had that unit of MiGs for training, seems like it'd be just the thing to do with captured gear following the Gulf war rather than having to rely on vismod kits.
Not a BMP
All those poor dinged barrels.
Well that took long enough.
Sorry about the picture quality.
>>43606383
>You'll never hear Baldrick's final cunning plan
Why live?
>>43594698
Can I play with a pirated copy?
>>43626885
probably not. Have to go through Slytherine servers and they check the codes.
>>43621250
I got a box of Germans and 2 boxes of Russians. They just arrived, I'm fairly impressed, especially given the price.
Okies all..I just threw up a challenge on the Firestorm Campaigns:Red Storm PBEM++ server.
Dawns Early Light
Ill be running the Soviets
Fog of War is on
Sudden death is off...means the game will go until time hits or one person resignes
My screen name there is Steelwhip
PW is HWGeneral
>>43628509
Should be interesting. I'll resist the temptation to post pictures until it's over though.
>>43629578
just make sure that you block out your units and positions....or wait until its all over yeah....
>>43622256
I'm struggling to find any kind of info on Soviet hardware being captured and used by the US military. They should have quite a fleet! Not just ex-Iraqi either; a few threads back we had a pic from Grenada of a BMP captured by Marines. I suppose that kind of preparation is not as relevant as during the Cold War. After all I understand our old friends the 11th ACR (Blackhorse to you Team Yankee folks) operated as an OPFOR faction sometimes in training.
>The units at NTC and JMRC were used to replicate a Soviet Motorized Rifle regiment or division. At NTC, M551 Sheridans were used to replicate Soviet T-80 tanks until 2003. Visually Modified (VISMOD) HMMWVs are used to replicate BRDM-2s, VISMOD M113A2s (known as the OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle [OSV]) are used to replicate BMP-2 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFV), while VISMOD M1 Abrams Tanks (known as the Krasnovian Variant Tank [KVT]) and M113A2s (known as the OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle, Tank [OSV-T]) are also used to replicate the T-80. At JMRC, M113A2s are used to replicate Soviet BMP-2s and M60A3 tanks are used to replicate Soviet T-80s.
Looking through the new content for Flashpoint campaigns, there's one hell of a monster scenario in there. 3 full regiments of Soviet armour vs 1 US Cav regiment.
And no nukes or chemical weapons.
327 T-80BVs though.
24 Apaches too.
I feel like that's one of those all-day scenarios.
>>43630893
>tfw target-rich environment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMDCJrRpT8
All this microarmour and the release of Team Yankee is making me want to set up some 6mm Gone Hot stuff...
>>43631178
I am constantly fighting the urge to buy a fistfuls of tanks.
Has Warlord announced any plans to release a Chinese army, or anything else in the Pacific theater?
>>43630893
>327 T-80BVs
>24 Apaches
Interest: piqued
>>43633907
It's gotta be frustrating to play Zulus in that
>>43633983
They won in the end. USUTHU!
>>43634018
SHAKA ZUUULUUU
>>43634018
Unbase those fuckers, stick them straight onto the rocks and give me a bitchin diorama.
>>43632163
If they do I'd totally jump wholehog into wargames just to play them.
Tile bro where are you at? you have to see this video
http://pastebin.com/cVhZZ5aQ
>>43636283
Not Tilebro, but that is impressive as fuck
Commonwealth Cruisers 1939-45 (Osprey New Vanguard 226)
In the early 20th century Britain's largest colonies established their own small naval presence, and their ships fought alongside the Royal Navy during World War I. These fleets were expanded during the inter-war years, and in 1939 the Royal Australian Navy, the Royal Canadian Navy and the Royal New Zealand Navy willingly joined the fight on behalf of the British Commonwealth. For the most part these small navies consisted of a few cruisers and destroyers, designed to protect territorial waters and local sea lanes. However, these warships and their crews soon found themselves involved in a global war, and consequently were called upon to fight wherever they were needed, against the Germans, the Italians and the Japanese. This book tells the story of these small cruiser forces, and the men who served the Allied cause so well during the long and brutal war at sea.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/d2qbe45hbtcqpcr/Osprey+-+NVA+226+-+Commonwealth+Cruisers+1939-45.pdf
I had a grand-uncle on HMNZS Achilles, he was at the River Plate. Going to buy an actual hardcopy of this myself in his memory.
>>43625898
Because who would notice another mad man around here
>>43628509
I'm very bad at Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm, but I love the wego concept, especially as you don't send orders at the exact same time.
I'd love something like this for periods I know more about, like horse and musket up to the 19th century. The system seems perfect for simulating the issues of command and control in these periods, but I doubt there's any call for it.
does anyone have better "scans" of the bolt action army books for the US? I mean a kindle pdf or ebook pdf like the german and USSR ones`?
would be very nice.
>>43632163
there's three chinese lists in the new empire in flames expansion, also there is a chinese section in their online stores o presumably that's a yes.
>>43639194
>So I told Dean to single base his 10mm figures, he actually did it the absolute madman hahahaha
Are there any games for playing in the Chinese civil war with different lists for each faction? Hoping for a white Russian merc list.
>>43639402
http://www.wargamevault.com/product/82254/World-at-War-Back-of-Beyond
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29891/back-beyond
Both supplements for different rule systems, with the same name for some reason.
>>43639460
More proof that /hwg/ is the best and most friendly part of /tg/
>>43639542
Just remembered that I saved this pdf years ago too.
>>43637678
http://boltaction.easyarmy.com should have anything you need for list writing. Anything missing off of that site I could grab for you out my book some time?
Today I ordered my Christmas gift, it's pic related. I love Memoir '44, and the whole Commands&Colours system, plus I'll have a good number of figures for my Feudal Japanese armies too.
Plan is to multibase them in 4s, and use markers to show casualties, or I'll convert the tray they are sold with, so I can use them for standard wargaming, plus the two rulesets that are in the game.
Gonna be a nice gift under the tree.
>>43642596
Well played anon...
I JUST got C&C Naps last week.
>>43643731
Ah, that sounds awesome. I really love the mechanisms of Borg's system, and they provide me plenty of figures to paint too.
>>43639999
wow didn't know about that. that's pretty sweet. thx!
Got the expansion for Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm and just gave the A Few Good Tanks scenario a go, nice and small, played as Soviets. Bloody hell that was a bit fast.
Started out pretty conventionally, take a motor rifle group up into a valley of death guarded by a whole bunch of M1A1 Abrams and Bradleys and the threat of A10s and Cobras in support.
I pre-emptively shelled the objective locations with artillery for good measure, and then went with the classic soviet plan, rush forwards. The troops diverted off the road up into Olderup because my senses said that it was going to be full of ATGM infantry or recon calling artillery onto my column. Turns out it was empty but at least gave the troops some cover because lets face it, BTR carried riflemen charging uphill into Abrams in a forest who have thermal optics on their side? Nah. That shit is not happening.
The T-80U company though performed really well, getting the first kills, attracting attention off the more vulnerable parts and eventually being reduced to just 2 tanks but causing some havoc in return.
>>43646440
And then as the initial T-80s took a ton of casualties and the infantry started getting hammered, the reinforcements came online and I used my limited orders to send every T-80U I could on assault orders to get right up close.
I figured that'd be the best thing to do but made sure to spread them out rather than send them all down the road (I saw a non-conventional artillery strike in that little valley between the hills and thought there might be a minefield buying time for the american's reinforcements to turn up) .
This proved to be the correct decision as the T-80 companies stormed through the remaining defences, a pair of A-10s got shot down by the newly activated AA defence units, the foremost units dodged artillery fire with speed and then the most forward unit caught the reinforcement Abrams units with a volley of Refleks ATGMs as they sped down the road.
A few more minutes of fighting and it hit the tactical victory conditions and game over. Reinforcement infantry hadn't even got their arses moving to follow up onto the objectives.
Damn I am glad I have a FFoT game coming up in a few weeks because now I really want to break out the microarmour.
>>43645272
Damn nice. What period/country are these from?
>>43646712
About 1450-1490 western european mercenaries (Perry miniatures).
>>43646501
I gotta get that DLC. gonna wait until my current game is done with my buddy though. Dont want to have any issues in the scenario going on.
its getting hot..real hot.
ive been blowing bridges left and right and I think thats kinda shocked him and hes not sure where to go. he did manage to speed a unit of about 9 T-80s over the one bridge on my northern flank that I didnt quite get to in time...it may cause some problems.
hes got a few units following up but they have a single hex wide path beteen 2 rivers they have to traverse to get to the bridge...so I just layed 3 hexes of arty mines along the path. and rushing a newly arrived Mech Company to the area.
other than that im still not sure where his main thrust is heading to. hes playing cautious and I think the bridges blowing up in his face is confusing him where to commit his main push
and Ive managed to bag 16 of his Hinds so far....he kept pushing them right into this overlocking field of fire I had...
on the down side he did shoot down my 2 A10s....was not happy with that.
>>43647853
Soviets playing cautious seems like the complete wrong thing to do, they work best when picking a target and going at it with everything.
Concentration of force for rapid offensives is basically their thing from WW2 onwards.
That and it's the soviets, they should be able to ford the river rather than get stuck at a bridge given that wading gear is standard for all the tanks after the T-62 and pretty much every transport in use after those original BTRs. River crossing is also very much their thing even without bridge laying.
Hey /hwg/, Anon from /his/ here and I found what appears to be the grand-daddy of all war games called Kriegsspiel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsspiel_%28wargame%29
I was wondering if you guys had any info on where to acquire a full set of the game's components. I have found one place that sells the rules and nothing else. Does anyone have experience playing this game? I am I going to have piecemeal it together like Canvas Eagles?Sorry for basically being a sausefag
>>43649990
some more pics for interested anons
>>43649990
>>43649990
last one
>>43649990
Those fine gentlemen at Two Fat Lardies produce a set with rules, both the original maps, and playing blocks. The table, though, is up to you.
http://toofatlardies.co.uk/Kriegsspiel.html
>>43650023
Damn, that's sexual.
>>43650177
Thank you dear anon!
>tfw Seven Year's War in India
>>43650177
>and playing blocks
I thought they suggested buying the blocks from Irregular? I didn't think they made them themselves.
>>43651787
>I thought they suggested buying the blocks from Irregular? I didn't think they made them themselves.
That is correct
does anyone have this and would be so kind to share it?
>>43649990
I feel like I have a pdf of that somewhere. Let me check and get back to you.
It got mentioned on /fowg/ that modern armies were struggling to work out where infantry come into the picture in the 1980s; I figure /hwg/ might be able to give me more on that? Was it a solved issue and how much of that was doctrinal vs changing man-portable equipment?
Got a new acquisition for the thread. TooFatLardies have brought out a compendium of all their WWI articles published since 2004, for both Through the Mud and the Blood (covering the Western Front and also with an expansion for the Eastern Front) and If the Lord Spares Us (covering Mesopotamia, Gallipoli and Palestine)
It's a 286 page monster of a pdf with a crap ton of scenarios, tactics articles, campaign ideas etc.
As always, I encourage you to use this as a sort of 'try-before-you-buy' affair, as TFL are cool guys who deserve support. They've also got 20% off all their TtM&tB and ItLSU stuff right now.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/saq2qihd8kzb9eq/Play_the_Game.pdf
>>43653179
Fantastic, thanks anon
>>43648911
yeah im not sure what he is doing. were over half way through the scenario and I havnt seen any serious thrust yet. neither of us are commenting to much on the game as we play it.
its gonna be an interesting debriefing when we get done with the scenrio
Looking to purchase a few Zvezda 15mm cold war minis.
Does anyone have recommended webshops for people from the EU?
>>43653885
Maybe he was too reliant on the Hinds breaking your force and didn't expect the bridge destruction?
Blowing bridges isn't something that makes it into wargames a lot, or at least miniatures ones. Seems like one of those more high level tasks that defines what you might play out on tabletop when setting up a scenario rather than something done in a game.
>>43654887
Have you tried Google? Because that's popping up a bunch of webstores, Amazon and eBay results from the UK or, say, Germany.
>>43652748
That's a veeeery broad question.
I guess chemical warfare was seen as a major problem for the infantry during this era.
A frontline between NATO & WPACT could be expected to be showered with nerve gas.
Infantrymen would have to live inside their C-suits which would limit their effectiveness and make it difficult to drink, eat and perform other bodily needs.
Even in an area where chemicals hadn't been used you would still need to be inside your suit for fear of a sudden suprise attack.
Vehicle crews would be less affected, and could live for a few days inside their confined spaces protected by a slight overpressurisation to keep chemical agents out.
And as always a vehicle is faster and can carry more firepower than a man.
Units fighting on foot would maybe not be able to react fast enough during armored assaults. Overrun or encircled because they can't fall back. Too slow to take part in a crucially timed counter-attack etc
>>43651326
those guns tho
>>43656255
Early modern Indians loved incredibly ornate artillery pieces, the Mughals in particular. Each one was unique, and because they were used for centuries some of them became legendary weapons. Tipu Sultan famously had a whole set or mortars cast as tigers. Sometimes they're called "naga cannons" or "dragon cannons" but that isn't widespread; the latter term is many used only in Burma.
>>43657214
That's in the Royal Armouries up on Portsdown Hill. Looked really cool.
>>43621281
I'm starting a soviet army after x-mas and Im torn between warlord and Rubicon t-34s.
On the one hand the detail seems crisper on the warlord one, and the t34/76 has one more turret option to make a '43 version, and it seems to have much better track detail. Also a crew figure
On the other hand I REALLY dig the rubicon kit giving you three sets of road wheels, so you can mix and match between spoked, spoked with tyres and solid disc. Also OT-34 potential.
I'll probably end up going warlord, because 'ill probably get one with their army deal, and I know it will fit with the rest of my garage
>>43622256
>Abrams mocked up centurion
Why?
>>43653179
Added to folders. What a great read, essential for the WW1 wargamer. Last thread someone was asking about making trenches and there's a big spread on exactly that, for example. The discussion of contemporary tactics and doctrine is required reading. Also a detailed Tanga campaign (one of my favorite battles) and even a scenario for New Guinea.
>tfw when you roll Corporal Hitler
Also British characters (if they survive the war) get the chance to become Lady Chatterley's lover or Captain Hastings among other things.
I love TFL.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6h72ju77u4sx6t2/Play+The+Game+%28TFL%29.pdf
>>43658007
The road wheels come as lines; you can pick which of the three you want, but by default it's all of one.
That said, it'd be fairly trivial conversion to clip them.
>>43656173
Weren't all infantry mechanised by fairly early on in the Cold War? I guess I'm curious what an infantry's role is in a war with modern MBTs on the field. WW2 infantry gave tanks a bad time if they got up close, but when composite armours appeared and fucked up bazooka and RPG stuff, how were infantry meant to participate in assault?
Or didn't they? Was the assumption that attacks were done via the IFV and infantry were then dropped out to dig in and hold ground?
>>43658974
Tanks tend to have a bad time in urban combat, need boots on the ground for that.
>>43659144
Just let the artillery do their job first, and there'll be no "urban".
>>43658974
>I guess I'm curious what an infantry's role is in a war with modern MBTs on the field
Holding ground, threatening said MBTs with RPGs and ATGMs, fighting other infantry.
IFVs are a supporting thing, giving the infantry some more punch and protection in battlefields that are very fluid in where the lines are. They don't lead assaults because they're not armoured like tanks nor can they use every scrap of cover like infantry.
And composites and ERA were good but in no way rendered tanks invulnerable to RPGs and the like.
>>43659190
This doesn't work even with nukes.
If anything it just gives even more viable cover and concealment for infantry and makes things worse for armour by cluttering road access.
>>43659190
I smell an ork.
>>43659190
Ask the attackers at Monte Cassino how well that strategy works
>>43659190
>>43661269
Also, Stalingrad.
>>43663968
oh, that reminds me I need to buy the rulebook.
>>43667463
>That square
my lord
>>43668013
Well, the obvious drawback of multibasing small figures is formations.
So how important is primer for painting metal minatures?
I'm starting to put together a Roundhead army, and I've had trouble finding black, non-filling primer. Is regular spraypaint good enough, or will it just scratch off?
>>43668976
Primer is most of the time standard paint desu. I use regular spraypaint to prime my figures, both plastic and metal, and absolutely no problem with it.
>>43668976
It's quite important and I'd say a good varnish coat is equally important if you are gonna play with the figures. Almost any spray paint works, but basic guidelines are that it should NOT be artist's spray paint since it rubs off easily at least in my experience since they are often acrylic. Also, make sure the primer you are gonna use is matte since paint doesn't really stick to glossy or satin primers. You can also prime with artist's gesso which has the advantage of being usable in any weather since you just brush it on and it's flexible so it won't rub off. As for varnish, you can use a glossy or satin varnish first then put a layer of matt varnish on top to kill the shine. Varnish comes in spray cans, but I find it easier by hand since spray varnish is even more dependant on air condition, humidity etc.
>>43639259
kek
>>43668144
The same thing applies to big figures too, the guy just arranged them weirdly.
>>43671588
Not sure what the complaint about that 6mm square is. It's hollow and square, which is correct.
The one in this >>43668013 post is less correct if anything. It isn't hollow and it just as equally has soldiers with their flanks exposed.
Both of them are clearly infantry squares though, so there's no issue with either of them in my opinion.
>>43670612
Hang on a minute, that's a damn SPPU-22, the fuck it is doing on a BMP?
>>43672404
Looks like a homebrew to me. Libya use SPPU-22s iirc and all sorts of wacky mad max shit came out of that war.
>>43672404
*UPK-23 that should be, derp.
Seriously though, what would possess someone to mount a damn gunpod like that? You'd be better off just getting the regular ZU-23-2 and sticking that on the back. Which is not exactly a rare, unknown modification either. Image very related.
>>43672474
>"Jamal, our artillery tractor got shot!"
>"Fear not, I have an idea. Hey you, BMP man, come over here for a second..."
>>43672474
>*UPK-23 that should be, derp
>>43578227
Since I´m going to build and paint alot of them very soon, do we have the Osprey book on the T-72 MBT? I couldn´t find it in the book list, so maybe someone can delivera scan?
>>43672313
Austrians were known for using non-hollow squares, so called "battallion mass"
>>43673556
Wasn't that the Prussians?
>>43673929
The Prussians in 1812 certainly formed solid squares, although this is because of their preferred maneuver formation of the time.
Closed squares are less capable of fire, are less mobile, and are even more vulnerable than hollow squares to artillery. In general they are just not as good.
>>43673556
Are those Austrians? I don't recognise them, but even then they are labelled as a square, not the battalion mass.
>>43674117
never mind, those are Nassauers, who presumably would use British drill and form hollow squares?
>>43674117
>The Prussians in 1812 certainly formed solid squares, although this is because of their preferred maneuver formation of the time.
What was that?
>>43675140
Their maneuver columns were 'close columns' where the companies were only 1 pace apart. Basically to form a square from this the guys just turn outwards.
>>43636266
They were just released...
>>43672809
Here's a Duel about them anon, specifically looking at their performance against the Abrams during Desert Storm; when I get home from work tonight I'll upload the Vanguard - also I think a have a Concord title on it too.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/eqloxc9pywz70ge/Osprey+-+DUE+018+-+M1+Abrams+vs+T-72+Ural.pdf
I was looking to get into Bolt action want to start for a 500 pt tourney at my LGS I want to do fallschirmjäger I was thinking of their standard army set that comes with the following
Leutnant & one extra soldier (radio) 78
Medic 30
Fallschirmjäger Squad (8) NCO with MP40, LMG 127
Fallschirmjäger Squad (8) NCO with MP40, 2 x FG42 assault rifle, LMG 137
81mm Mortar Team 65
MG42 MMG Team 65
Total 502
>>43680389
but that's more than 500 points.
>>43680389
Thing is: LMGs suck. for the price of 1 LMG (for shots) you get 4 Assault Rifles (8 shots, no -1 to hit for move and shoot)
>>43682045
>LMGs suck
wow so realism, such WW2, much accurate
>>43682045
Son't be a WAAC chump, use season 2 rules:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9qPaKsZK_89TVJ4MHFEM0kxeDk5N0laVl9UVzFnNDlnR2Nj/edit
>>43680389
>500pt tourney
>502pt list
You're a cheating cunt.
Soviet players, check this out: posting a few pdfs from Scribd. These are the field manuals the UK Ministry of Defence use when creating pseudo-Soviet/Eastern Bloc forces to fight in wargames (called "Genforce"). The first one is basically an operational and tactical doctrine guide and is pretty bloody comprehensive.
Book two: the orbat and equipment guide
Book three: the Rest Of World Enemy (Rowen) Army book, with the orbats of dozens of different units around the world.
Finally the US Army's manual on insurgents, guerrillas, terrorists and criminals
One more I forgot: the operational and tactical doctrine guide for the Rowen Army.
>>43682202
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9qPaKsZK_89TVJ4MHFEM0kxeDk5N0laVl9UVzFnNDlnR2Nj/edit
That changes a lot, is this official material? If it's not and instead is third party tournament material will squads using these points costs obliterate squads drawn from the original rules?
>>43680389
Why don't you get the plastic Fallschirmjäger?
>>43685970
not official but really good. I'd like to use those rules a lot if possible.
second question: no, squads using these point costs still will lose to cheese builds out of the original rules. (especially cavalry and flamethrower builds)
>>43659190
putin pls
>>43678888
>>43672809
Back with the rest of my pdfs for T-72anon's requests. Here's Zaloga's Osprey and Concord titles:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vbu66i17smaq971/Osprey+-+NVA+006+-+T-72+Main+Battle+Tank+1974-93.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1f6wwap81dn1h23/Concord+1004+-+T-72+Soviet+Main+Battle+Tank.pdf
This is also a great read for Cold War Gone Hot tank warfare:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/923qdxyakj5plp9/Osprey+-+ELI+026+-+Central+Front+NATO+vs+Warsaw+Pact+-+Tank+War.pdf
And I would also strongly recommend the US, NATO and Soviet vehicle guides produced for GDW's Twilight 2000, for some serious inspiration:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
And just in case you wanted to study post-battle examples:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/60fx23ktobbr8po/Iraqi+Wrecks+and+Fortifications.pdf
As always if there's an Osprey out there you're after, just mention it and we'll see what we can do.
>>43685476
>>43685485
>>43685505
>>43685522
>>43685569
Awesome stuff anon, it's always really interesting to me to see how real militaries conduct wargames exercises.
>>43686841
> That MG
Not even real tanks can escape from bendy-barrel syndrome.
>>43686984
>he doesn't bend the barrel to shoot round corners
>>43686359
Are the new HE rules for super heavy AT guns enough to make the Tiger playable? I really want to field one of them but the points cost is nuts
>>43686952
An interesting article on wargaming the Warsaw Pact for Nato excercises.
https://20thcenturywargaming.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/why-cold-war-warsaw-pact-tactics-work-in-wargaming/
Lookie lookie what arrived today.
Opened te box, and shit, it's full. No wasted space or anything, these Russians can really pack a boardgame together.
>>43687221
Oi! you better not open that before Christmas you cheeky bugger, I know what you bought that as a self gift
>>43687453He's already opened it
>>43687453
>>43687482
I tend to look at Christmas as a style of life. I feel like Christmas today, so I opened it.
Merry Christmas /hwg/
>>43687497
>Merry Christmas /hwg/
Where's my present then?
I want to back a board game on kickstarter 'for Christmas' but it doesn't get released until like April, so it won't feel like a Christmas present.
>>43686841
Spaseba, tovarich! Much appreciated!
>>43687550
April is Christmas if you have the right attitude.
Where does /hwg/ buy it's 1/285|6mm from? I can't find retailers for this stuff like I do for other scales (Warstore/CSI/MiniatureMarket/etc.).
Is it just much more common to buy direct with this scale?
>>43690160
You generally have to buy direct.
GHQ/Heroics and Ros/Baccus
>>43690160
Depends on where you are in the world. I use Wargames Emporium (I think, websites change a lot and I may be looking at an update or the wrong site) but Heroics and Ros, GHQ and Baccus as the guy above mentioned all have webstores.
What period are you going for?
>>43690417
A small group of my friends and I are interested in doing 6mm modern - probably Fistful of TOWs (1:1 scale) or Team Yankee in 6mm if the rules are nice.
We're all in South Florida.
>>43690507
Buy GHQ since you don't have to pay transatlantic shipping. Heroics and Ros is, like 4 times cheaper, but GHQ stuff is bigger and more detailed.
Heroics and Ros T-72s are basically trash.
Hey guys.
First of all, anyone knows some wargame that has interesting melee combat with choices and everything? Like parrying, defending, attacking, etc. But it shouldn't be one where you have to write it in a piece of paper and then show it to the other guy, that's pretty anticlimatic.
Also, what's your take on attributes in a game mostly about humans, like in a historical game, or at most, mythological? Where most of the characters are people, but there could be some sort of variance?
Do you like the "Combat/Strength/Defence" statlines? What's your opinion on that?
>>43691660
>Like parrying, defending, attacking, etc. But it shouldn't be one where you have to write it in a piece of paper and then show it to the other guy, that's pretty anticlimatic.
Surely some of these maneuvers would have advantages over others, surely having them not chosen in secret would lead to gamesmanship? For example if parry gives +1 vs someone who picks attack, if my opponent picks first and takes attack, I will just pick parry. I don't know of any such system, but it sounds like it would give whoever picks second a large advantage.
>>43691660
>Also, what's your take on attributes in a game mostly about humans
In games I play the only variance is through training or equipment. For example large formations of French Napoleonics infantry would march faster than Spanish (due to the cadence of their marching), but this would have no affect on skirmish games, Frenchmen aren't just inherently faster.
I think in most historical wargames you would be hard pressed to find many stat line variations that make sense for individual soldiers beyond mental characteristics and training.
>>43692341
Yeah, probably if it works that way. But what if both can pick an attack and a defense. Or parry doesn't give something like that, instead giving a +1 to the next attack if you block the first or something like that.
About the second part, what if it was a skirmish game?
>>43692412
>About the second part, what if it was a skirmish game?
For a skirmish game we can talk Napoleonics, as thats all I really know.
It is well known that French were able to maneuver on the battlefield faster than the Prussians in 1806 due to their drills just being far more efficient and their marching rate being faster. As well as this they were masters skirmish combat again due to their excellent light soldier drills.
When you transpose this to a 'skirmish game' (which are rarely real skirmishes, more just very small scale engagements) would you have the French trained soldier move faster than a Prussian soldier? This doesn't make sense as out of the tight formations a Frenchman is not faster than a Prussian.
Would you give the Frenchman +1 to hit at range? This doesn't make sense either as the advantage for the French was in their skirmish drill, not in their individual ability to shoot.
Stats exist in an odd state where people do not want to play with identical stats (which you probably should, you would have a hard time arguing that any individual nation's soldiers were much better than any other nations with the same equipment) but since the player is in command of the figures, and has no real reason not to use French skirmish drill with his Prussians, the only way to give the French a skirmish advantage is to give them some sort of arbitrary bonus.
>>43692778
That seems sensible. Maybe not the movement part, that's just unit drilling, but the shooting part, probably would be a nice thing to do.
I always think about that, because in skirmishes there are some abilities or capacities that some troops actually had that cannot be shown.
How would you handle melee then? No STR, just rolling for melee and the winning guy gutting the other?
I was thinking more about ancient times / classical times, in which differences in the fighting style of different peoples (say, a greek hoplite, a roman hastatus and a celtic swordsman) might be actually substantial. How to deal with exceptions then? if it's a skirmish game it should have more granularity
>>43685970
It's more a case that RAW LMGs are blatantly bad - 40pts for 3 or 4 shots (depending on if you're German) and two bodies - one of whom is particularly vulnerable to snipers / exceptional damage - is terrible value compared to 4 shots from 4 riflemen, and BARs and assault rifles get better / similar shots for cheaper.
If you use the dotnet rules then the game is better balanced, especially for those using historical lists. A German squad with two LMGs stacks up really poorly compared to a US squad with BARs RAW, for example.
>>43687181
>Are the new HE rules for super heavy AT guns enough to make the Tiger playable? I really want to field one of them but the points cost is nuts
nope the Tiger is still totally outclassed by an ISU 152, but it's "more" playable then before.
In a normal Bolt Action game I'd still choose a StuH 42 over a Tiger any day.
>>43694886
That's just straight up fake turf isn't it? Doesn't look too bad, well, for overgrown fields combined with large models, wouldn't dare use it with anything smaller. Can't be easy to balance plastic models on either.
>>43693281
>How would you handle melee then? No STR, just rolling for melee and the winning guy gutting the other?
No sense having differing strength stats unless you are slaughtering the peace loving pygmies of the Upper Volta armed to the teeth with Kiwi fruit and Guava halves.
>>43695176
I also wouldn't use unvarnished models on it. That stuff can be quite scratchy.
>>43695220
No substantial difference between a nobleman and a poor farmer then? And how about between a guy wielding a pole arm and a guy with a spear?
