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>Citadel Painting Guides:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/drb4mezm6792i/not_citadel_nothing_to_see_here

>Painting guides, Uniforms & Heraldry books, Painting Videos, Visions, ebooks and White Dwarves:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!OgpwzAKS!a5eVE6pOagTTOWEr5tEaEQ

>Painting Videos
https://mega.co.nz/#F!XEJSFDCL!9ZZKiLi6M_wguI1uTpyjPg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WUsUlSLb!556OumKLhusFd9Fw5dBMdA

Old thread >>43518652
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I'd still appreciate feedback on this as well.
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>>43557016

It's a bit tldr. Could use pictures in places to demonstrate some things, eg. The knife technique for scraping moldlines
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i need some guidance on this.
My acquiantance has given me some "less than stellar" painted termies and stuff. How can I strip the paint off of them quickly so i can refurbish them. Also another question. My paint is a little bad at thinning. I am using all citadel paints but for some reason my newer paints are all strange at thinning. is there a solution?
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What are on your painting table atm?

For me it's 8 rough riders made from reikland knights and guard bits, 4 reaper bones minis and some tyranid thingy.
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Got some Khador shit that I'm working on. Got them battered to all hell like US soldiers out of Bastogne. Now I just wanted to bit of snowfall on the top and on their pants. Any one got some good tips?
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>>43557310
I HAVE to see how these turn out. Keep us posted anon.
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>>43557176
Simple green if US, Brown Dettol if EU.
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>>43557310
at work so no picture, but

a Land Raider
the tactical squad from Dark Vengeance
Librarian on bike conversion
2 rogue trader era Ravenwing Landspeeders
rogue trader DA captain
and several other older minis

All in various states of being painted.
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I'm looking to paint more as a hobby than for gaming what are some recommended dealersI should look at? Any type of genre is fine
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>>43557709
I like models for mallifaux, they have really interesting models to work with.
I also like (and doing them atm) models form SodaPop, they're chibi anime fellows, that are quite a challenge to do after doing so many grimdark 40k models.
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>>43557709
Reaper, Dark Sword, Freebooter, Dark Age, Studio McVey, Kingdom Death, Enigma, Figone... There's a lot of stuff to choose from, go look around on cmon
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>>43557176

Galleria flow improver instead of water
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>>43549549
Zinge Industries sells some.
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>>43557660
Seems like a lot, hope ypu paint faster than me.
>>43557539
I still dont have a colour scheme for my Imperial guard.
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Hey /wip/.
I just bouhgt pic related from ebay.
Its the event only Autiln Skorr Alpha Legion miniature made by FW.
How likely is it that this is a recast?
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>>43558114

looks legit
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>>43557016
Put a reminder in so new people know they should avoid buying "hobby" tools from gw and other companies at any cost. Hardware stores is where you get your stuff.
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>>43557176
>"less than stellar" painted termies
>How can I strip the paint off of them quickly so i can refurbish them.

They're plastic, anon. Try using non-acetone nail polish remover.

>>43558114
>How likely is it that this is a recast?

What country was the seller in?
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>>43557176
>I am using all citadel paints
Stop using citadel and get yourself some p3 paint as well as an acrylic thinning medium.
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I started repainting an AirCav unit, thinking the grey is too dark?
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>>43557310
A T-34-85 and a horde of 80 russian soldiers.
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>>43556996

That's one sexy Blood Angel, OP!
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A few threads back someone was asking about Grottank alternatives and I had posted my metal slug tank and there was a request for a side by side of it and the official model. Also I gave it a quick paintjob.

>>43558114
The resin is pretty light in color, could be the flash, but it's similar to the grot tank on the right in my pic which is from the based chinaman. Best way to tell is to check other people's tough model posts and see if they have the same mold lines they do, like those on the legs.
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>>43557709
Its entirely up to you. What are your interests? You can literally paint anything from historical plastic miniatures to die cast tie fighters. If you aren't planning on gaming you can get whatever you want.
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>>43558129
Thanks
>>43558140
Germany (If he was from china i would have been more suspicious).
The price was 10€ with free shipping which is super low for that miniature so i bought it without thinking.

>>43558171
Thanks. I will try to find some pics of a legit one to compare. There are some on ebay, but most are still in their blister.
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>>43558140

This stuff melts some plastics though. Floor soap is safer
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>>43558210
It´s 97.5% fake.
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In light on the betrayal at calth set I'm now in need of some word bearer accessories. What's the best based chinaman available to me now that Miranda Irene is gone,?
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>>43558370
Z or CCoN
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>>43558157

Tfw looking to start a soviet army soon and not looking forward to pinting hordes of infantry.
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>>43558587
You can go for a more elite unit if you don't want hordes. Naval Infantry or Veteran Guard for example.
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painted a vostroyan to try the scheme out
dunno if I should start them or not, I have a box of infantry and a command squad but the full cost would be atrocious
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Got a box of foam core, with a box of balsa wood and a box of XPS foam on its way. Looking to turn it all into Mordheim terrain. Anyone got some links to mordheim terrain how-Tos or guides? Thanks in advance

Pic related
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>>43558671
First off, I'm rather jealous, I haven't been able to work on terrain in a while and those are some awesome boxes of supplies you have on the way.

Second here's a bunch of links of useful terrain websites. Damn 4chan for thinking this is all spam had to go through tinyurl so just add to the end of tunyurl.com/
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>>43558343
>It´s 97.5% fake.

I'm with anon, here. Too many things about this seem *really* fishy!
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>>43558647
It's €31 for a 10-strong squad, dude. You're SAVING money in comparison to other races these days.
The serious spending comes from hunting for special weapons, OOP stuff like mortar teams and officers, etc.
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>>43559129
AND: they are metal. Thats a huge plus in my opinion.

Keep in mind that they too are OOP. What they sell in the onlineshop is what they have left. Once its gone, its gone forever. (True for everything marked as metal, GW isn't casting anything new that isn't plastic or resin these days).
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>>43559045
I haven't touched terrain in going on a decade almost. I stumbled across a group of older players who have a mordheim league and I jumped at the chance. Problem was they had like 20ish pieces of terrain among the lot, barely enough for one board! So I took upon myself to get some more terrain so we can have 3+ games going at once.

As for those links, you are a gentleman and scholar. I'll be sure to post my WIPs here as they come to life.
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>>43557310
Painting my Kroot Pathfinder, finished up his spiky dakka Tau PF escorts, should be a cool Kroot-trained unit. Sorry for bad pic
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>>43559231
Happy to help. I had done all of the terrain for my old LGS but since they've closed its all been sitting in rubbermade tubs in my garage. I've been wanting to start making some new projects just need a new job to start so I can get materials.
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>>43559290
Another pic with the marker pistol, albino kroot ftw. Also idk why my phone turns shit sideways. My b.
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>>43559290
Holy shit, get a pedicure.
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>>43558173
Genre really isn't the problem I'm interested in painting any kind of mini, I was wandering about where i could get some nice quality figures for decent prices, while i like the look pf GW's sculpts I dont really want to shell out for GW prices, pr scrounge aroumd on ebay for cheaper models that I'll likely have to repair or strip
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>>43559597

Scibor, victoria, kromlech, check the reddit
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>>43559597
Check out that list:
>>43557791

Reaper has some really cheap miniatures (personally i would avoid the super cheap "bones" series, since it is made of kinda rubber-ish plastic which is a pain to paint).

Additional to that, check out the galleries here:

Fantasy:
http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/?&content=katalog&nlayer=58&page=1&

Historical&Pulp:
http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/nlayer/1126-1-historical_and_pulp_miniatures.html

Sci-Fi
http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/nlayer/930-1-science_fiction_miniatures.html

There you got pics of almost every manufacturer available in one place. If you found something nice, feel free to look for better/cheaper alternatives to order it. I just like Battlefield Berlin for its huuuge inventory to browse.
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>>43559597
>where i could get some nice quality figures for decent prices
First and foremost Reaper. They have a huge catalog of fantasy, pulp and sci fi minis, as do Wargames Foundry.
Then there are a load of smaller companies like Black Scorpion that make great minis.
Historical minis are also incredibly cheap in comparison, especially if you get plastic kits like from the Perrys, Fireforge Games or Gripping Beast.
Warlord also has a load of historical minis and also does Gate of Antares, Rick Priestley's new game, which is also supposed to be in plastic once they get the ball rolling for good. The starter and another box are already out in plastic.
And of course there is also Mantic games, who have a few good minis and kits, but their quality is a bit hit and miss imo. Their prices are really fair though, if not to say cheap.
Frostgrave is a relatively new game by Osprey Publishing with minis from northstar minis. They also have a decent selection of fairly priced goodlooking minis. Sometimes the paintjob on the product images does them a disservice though.
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>>43559678
>I just like Battlefield Berlin for its huuuge inventory to browse.
It's also a pretty awesome store to rummage around in. Was looking for treasure tokens for Frostgrave recently and ended up spending a load of money on random blisters from all kind of manufacturers.
It's beautiful and terrifying at the same time. Your wallet will hate you.
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>>43559724
Maybe its a good thing that Berlin is that far away
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>>43559505
Yeah, hands are bad. Especially that thumb, got crushed when i was a kid so its fuuuucked.
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>>43559737
I think he was more inferring that you should cut and clean your fingernails.
No matter how borked your fingernail is, the dirt under there didn't get there when you were a kid.
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>>43559776
>the dirt under there didn't get there when you were a kid.
Maybe it did
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Thanks for the lists of suppliers guys I really appreciate it.
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Anyone else kind of hope the fat troll with the awful photos posts again?
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>>43557310
Those knights could really use an update
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>>43559797

It looks like he tried to claw something out of his colon after taco tuesday
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>>43557310
3 chaos wolves (almost done)
3 marauders
3 skeletons
2 flesh ogres
a vampire maiden
five night goblins (two archers, a gonger, one with heand weapon and torch, one netter)
four warriors of chaos with great weapons
three lizardmen (reaper)
three orcs
three various evil knights
a treasure chest
a mimic
a demon prince
there's a handful more but off the top of my head they're not coming to me...
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>>43559318
>>43559290
look at OP's pic please
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Just finished up my first set of spirit hosts.
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>moved to a new apartment
>no desk for models
>no room for paints
>for at least another 2 weeks

Might aswell eat my gaunts until then.
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>try making my own decals for space marine chapter badges
>first attempt: decals too transparent because shitty inkjets can't do thick enough
>second attempt: use white decal paper, looks awful, I don't want white in the badge, it needs to be transparent
>ask on /tg/
>somebody recommends just biting the bullet and paying a hobby company to make my decals
>do it
>the ordered decals are garbage for several reasons as well, worse than the ones I made myself even

JUST

FUCK

MY

SHIT

UP

This is getting retarded, if I knew I was going to go through all this bullshit and waste $100+ in the process I would have just freehanded, apparently I have taken for granted that GW are the fucking masters of waterslide decals because their sheets are the only ones I've had that fucking work properly. I give the hell up on decals, I'm just going to draw the markings on with micropens or something. Anybody got a good tutorial for making space marine logos and such that DOESN'T use decals?
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Woops. Reposting
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>>43557016
tldr

Really, people want quick and easy informations, pictures too, I aint saying its bad and real hobbyists will read it but still...
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>>43560816

Depends on what you're drawing
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>>43560816
>Anybody got a good tutorial for making space marine logos and such that DOESN'T use decals?
?
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>>43557016
I was planning on doing something similar, but that is tl;dr my man. Just make something with a simple format like

>/tg/'s official getting started painting minis guide
>small 3 sentence intro explaining that this infographic will give you entry level knowledge in order to paint tabletop quality minis and not fall into noob traps
>list of tools, using space marines example
>step 1) remove marine from sprue with clippers, be careful not to cut into the marine itself as you will be getting rid of flash and moldlines in step 2)
>step 2) [etc etc etc]
>give a bibliography/list of links for further reading about various techniques etc
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>>43560816
just an off idea, but did you try reprinting over the first try that was too transparent? Maybe two layers would get it working

Otherwise, try just printing black and white, or specially black. Do it in reverse. once it's printed paint in the colors you want on the top surface. Then remove from the sheet and put it on with the painted surface down.
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>>43560907
that looks like more money and a large potential for me fucking it up, I'm really not looking to toss another fistful of dollars down the toilet again atm. although I might keep that in mind for a later project

actually I think I'm just gonna apply these shit decals and then just carefully paint the decals to fix them up, eaiser than freehand
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>>43560944
>actually I think I'm just gonna apply these shit decals and then just carefully paint the decals to fix them up, eaiser than freehand

Mind posting your results? Maybe we can help you get better results with a little feedback.
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>>43560977
the problem is that they're white with purple printed over the top of them, but the purple looks more like dithering than a solid color and the result is some ugly as fuck pseudo-purple/white that doesn't contrast well against the background of the pauldron color, also the white and purple layers aren't even lined up well and the white sticks out of the sides

I'm just gonna attach them and go over the decal with purple paint, hopefully that works
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>>43561191
scratch that, just attempted and it's just . . .

god fucking dammit, I'm just gonna use a GW decal, there goes having my own chapter I guess, I'll just make them a successor chapter of some assholes
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>>43557589
What's the best way to use simple green?
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>>43561313
>Drop the miniatures into it and let them soak it up for at least 24 hours.
>Take a toothbrush and start brushing the paint way
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>>43561313
Clean your toilet with it, then buy some non-acetone nail polish remover, put it in a bowl, dip toothbrush in bowl, and scrub the paint off your miniatures. Those plastic GW terminators won't be hurt by non-acetone nail polish remover unless you leave them submerged in the stuff for several minutes, which will melt your shit. Using actual acetone nail polish remover will also melt your shit.

Simple Green is a cancerous meme, it doesn't do anything that any other degreaser won't do, and any other degreaser will just barely make a small amount of the paint bubble off your miniatures after several weeks submerged and still leave a bunch of crap on you'll have to carefully remove with a knife, at which point you have ask why bother with degreaser.
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>>43560907

>trace your design onto some masking tape
>carefully cut out with hobby knife
>stick to pauldron
>airbrush over
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>>43560907
Think the stamp technique was described in one of the Spice Marine codexes IIRC (ie, just making a stamp with the texture and pressing it on green stuff)
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>>43560922
the hairline precision needed isn't feasible
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>>43561423
difficulty: nightmare, time: all of it

>>43561498
yeah I guess there's no way to conveniently do this, even throwing money at it doesn't work. I'll look into this stamp thing then
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>>43561551
Well try re thinking the pattern, I'm having a hard time finding the thread that showed a guy doing this method but think of it like this. looking at the pic, print it all in black, remove from the paper backing, paint on the back of the decal so any overlap of paint if blocked from view by the black area, flip it back over and apply to the model.

If you can simplify the symbol you're working with it could work.
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>>43559290

fuck yeah kroot!

I want to add kroot to my army (fluff wise and ingame wise as proxy) of orks. How can i fit them here? maybe as lootas? or kommandos perhaps?
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Only the head left for my "converted" tankhunter Nob.
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>>43561191
>>43561302
You could try painting the symbol with a border of whatever color you want underneath to at least get rid of the white sticking out.

Bells of Lost Souls had a pretty good article on how to do decals, maybe there's some info in there that could be helpful?

If the color doesn't match well, maybe you could try changing the color profile of your file from rgb to cmyk for printing. Or if you know it'll end up brighter make the color a little darker in the file.
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>>43561912
>looking at the pic, print it all in black, remove from the paper backing, paint on the back of the decal so any overlap of paint if blocked from view by the black area, flip it back over and apply to the model.
I read this five times and I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Could you please explain in more detail?
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>>43562056
>>43562114
idk, the more I think about this shit the more is it pissing me off, I'll just come back later and fuck with this nonsense. seems like everything I try goes up flames and I'm left several dollars less with nothing to show for it, I'm REALLY tired of dicking around with decals that waste my resources and time
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>>43561984

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>>43562271

this time with a picture
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Assembling my Vostroyan Deathstrike.
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>>43562114
I tried to find the thread I learned it from but still unable. I did a quick mspaint rendetion.

The top half if the top facing of the decal, the printed on design on this side. You remove the decal from it's paper backing and flip it over so the back side is face up.

Now you can paint the back, as seen on the bottom half, and you don't have to stay in between the lines too well as long as you don't leave the over all foot print of the printed symbol. All of the over bleed that happens should be blocked by the black printed area on the main facing.

So like the picture shows the bottom half(backside) of the decal is messy but the top half(main side) of the decal blocks the mess from being seen.
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Not sure if this counts as WIP, but I did the conversion work and commissioned someone more competent than I am to paint this Terminator Lord.

Pretty damn pleased with how it came out.
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>>43562312
fuck helps to attach the image.
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>>43562290

i cant into resizing, what pixel amount do i set it with Paint?
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>>43562320
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>>43562196
The stencil airbrush idea is the best, why do you think it's so difficult and time consuming?
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Has anyone tried using heat/heating elements to cut models apart/smooth casting aberrations and mold lines? I'm sorely tempted to try one of the extra fine soldering iron tips and then wrapping it is some damp paper. I also plan on picking up one of the HH boxes and using a VERY find heated copper wire to cut apart that contemptor dread to make it more poseable

Samefag using the dental pick to clean mold lines and finding it a bit too time consuming here.
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So /WIP/ I need opinions.

Mordheim terrain; base or no base?
Why/why not?
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>>43558114
I actually order from Chinaman on a fairly regular basis, and his plastic doesn't look like this. I would say it's legit(Coming from someone who has 70% of his army from [Z])
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>>43562409
Heat is scary. The model will look fine until blammo, whole thing looks like poop. Wouldn't do it even if I knew you could get good results with it tbqh
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I'm currently painting a Deredeo up as Raptors, to go with my competitive army. Right now I'm trying to paint up the large surfaces in a sort of Swamp-camo, which will go with the rest of my marines.

What does WIP think of this pattern? Better yet, what about the stupid-silly concept of big stompy walkers in Camouflage.
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Brighter Khorne?
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>>43562409
Seems like a whole lot of fanfare when you could just, you know, use files and knives. Don't really see the necessity here.
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>>43562503

I would look up examples of Flecktarn pattern camo to make that look less like it just vomited all over itself.

Then again, I find a lot of times with the close-up shots of models, it distorts one's perception of what they look like IRL if you don't have a jewler's loop on you.

>>43562474

This is my thinking, and why I haven't tried it yet on my models, because shitting away muney is never good. I'm still interested in whether anyone's actually tried it and how it worked out for them.
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>>43562669
I've done models in Rauchtarn before, and I'm not really impressed with how they tend to look on the models. Right now I still have a really shitty camera that doesn't do well with the details.

I will admit that there is some inspiration from Flecktarn in the camo patterns I'm doing. Right now the formula for it is wetblended Loren forest over Waaah flesh, with Ameobas of Skrag Brown. Then I do stipples of black, followed by small ameobas of a darker brown.

And as I'm doing a resin model, I'm sealing it with 'ardcoat to stop the colors from grinding off with use. The 'ardcoat is probably the reason why it looks like shit on my camera.
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Am I wasting paint by using only brushes?

I haven't considered buying an air brush yet and may actively
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>>43562807
No, you're not wasting paint by using brushes. I would say to look into making yourself a wet palette, which would stop your paint from drying out as quickly. You might also consider Refrigerating your wet palette, which I believe helps me out with paint flow since I don't have flow accelerators.
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>>43562613
looks awesome anon
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>>43562336
the shoulder sucks
a small mistake on the axe
really great for the rest
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>>43562807
Like >>43562850 said, get a wet palette. Going from dry to wet pallette is like going from MS paint to photoshop, it's just so much better and you'll realize how much you were missing out.
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working on this seeker chariot,need to do the base. Thoughts?
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>>43563127
Throw an old penny with copper in under everything to help prevent the build up of mould.
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>>43562943
Why do you even bother? That shoulder clearly doesn't suck. Are you just one of those people that says something negative when they mean something positive and then go "ha, just kidding!"
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>>43558114
Its fake, but a nice cast for a good price. You dun good.
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>>43563201
It's kinda hard to properly process sideways and with so much other busy shit in the picture. Plus, its a big busy model and you've taken kinda out of frame with no real focal point.

I would suggest laying down a white sheet or pillow case or making a cheap easy light box with a sheet of bristle board and foamcore and glue.

I does look good, but I can't go much more into it like this.
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>>43562503
Mold lines and thin your paints.
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>>43563285
I'll post a pic in a light box next thread, but I got one more question,and does the base look too cluttered with this space marine corpse?
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>>43563289
They ARE thinned.
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>>43562330
nothing exceptional/10
skin looks like basecoat + wash, metal looks like leadbelcher and nothing else, only yellow parts seem to have any highlighting done.
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>>43563127
>get a wet pallet

Seconded... Except make one...it's so easy.

1. tupper ware sandwitch box
2. paper towel folded into 1/4 to fit in the bottom as you first layer
3. baking parchment paper cut into a square that fits your sandwich box. I usually have a folder of a bunch pre cut so i always can make a fresh pallet easily

Pour some water into it, soak it, and pour out the excess. That's it. Now your paint won't dry out.
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>>43563201
>blood splatter
please reconsider
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>>43563236

I'm assuming he's talking about how the lines on the shoulders are very clearly NOT straight.

The wavy lines (which are in black and yellow, and thus immediately noticeable with that color scheme) are marring and otherwise lovely paint job. The anon posting the critique is just clearly shit at communication.
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>>43563331
Maybe he meant apply matte varnish after you're done, or maybe that's just wet paint
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>>43557310
removing mouldlines form kobolds and then priming all of them

I've never worked with so many models at same time and that preparation stage feels like ages.
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>>43563510
Ah, that's more like it. I'm currently putting either Lahmian medium or 'ardcoat on all finished surfaces for the model, and that's making it shiny. What would a matte varnish do to the model?
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>>43563644
Protect the paint, and make it more matte. I'm not even sure Lahmian medium can be used as a general varnish, as far as I know the only two that GW sells are 'ardcoat (glossy) and purity seal (matte). Vallejo also sells their matte on spray only.
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>>43563236
If you cant see that the shoulderpad its obviously terrible you are blind. I myself have trouble believing that the shoulderpad has been painted by the same person as the rest of the miniature, which is good.
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>>43563805
Lahmian Medium produces a matte, but it's pretty shiny. I believe it used to be called Purity Seal actually.
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Astronaut nomads
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Can I put two plasma guns in one squad? I.e, a normal plasma gun and a combi plasma. My sergeant is plasma pistol/power-fist

Or could I put plasma/flamer?
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>>43563970
That all depends what codex you're using. But I think the standard layout is one special weapon, one heavy weapon, and Sargent can have a combi.
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>>43563858
No.... lahmian medium is acrylic thinner.
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>>43563900
The guy on the right has a cute face
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>>43564017

Flamer = special or heavy?
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>>43562613

Lel, doing AoS world eaters actually sounds like a cool idea
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>>43563900
I like it, but might I suggest some seriously dusty weathering effects and maybe a tiny bit of black to break up those colors?

Also I like what you've done with the helmets, but do you plan to add anything more to it? It lacks some serious sheen.
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>>43564036
which for citadel paints means shiny
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>>43564066
flamer would be a special, heavy flamer being a heavy. Again it all depends on the codex
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>>43562409

Don't be retarded, either use nylon wire for frictional heat or a razor saw for your cuts. Both will do the job much cleaner than anything you're thinking of.
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>>43564144
and yet its completely matte
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>>43564066
It tells you in the damn codex, read it.

Generally only chaos can have 2 special weapons and that's only in squads of 10 or more. "Special weapons" is not an actual rule in the game, it's just what people call small arms that cost points like melta, plasma, etc that don't have Heavy in their profiles.
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>>43562807

You're going to waste so much paint anyway, don't even worry about it. You should only care about the end results.

I do fucking hate watching people drybrush by dipping a huge brush in a paint pot, smearing 90% of it on a piece of paper and then going over their model. Less paint on a palette works just as well in my experience.
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>>43563520

Fuck, I want these so bad but I can't justify spending 200$ on the new kickstarter when I have debts still left to pay.
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>>43564167
Or one of these
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>>43563493
well how can you say the shoulder is good if the lines aren't even straight?
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So, I'm relatively new at this so bare with me.

I live in Canada, BC on Van isl. The weather here is usually super humid.
I used the P3 Black Primer to prime in the summer at high humidity/heat (90%/ 40 C) and the prime job came out grainy and sub par.

Googled it and it turns out high humidity + heat tends to dry the primer out mid air before it hits the model. So, chalked it up to a learning mistake and moved on.

So, now I'm wanting to prime one of my miniatures. The daily weather fluctuates between 78-98% humidity and 7-13 C (Average being 82%/10.2 C).

Will priming outside now, at like 83% humidity, going to give the same grainy effect it did in summer or will it go on fine due to the much colder temperature?
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>>43563326
Even here I can see it better anyway.
I do not think that the marine is too much, however, move him in from the edge a bit. You don't want him or his weapon hanging off the edge.
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>>43563415
Not my mini, but I would like to rate your comment and when done it's relevance will be revealed to you.

Basically, this comment was useless. You didn't tell this person anything they didn't already know and frankly it just seemed like you were looking for an excuse to seem witty saying "nothing exceptional/10." How long have you been holding on to that one? Did you give yourself a high five in the mirror immediately after? Or did you make a video of a long monologue and then watch and respond to that monologue and then high five your video self?
Either way, your comment had no substance. Thanks for listing some colours that he knows because he used them to paint the model?
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>>43563458
Go away with such shit comments. Please reconsider why? What don't you like about it? What would you suggest otherwise? Does their splatter just look wrong, what could be done to fix it?

>please reconsider

So helpful! What makes your opinion relevant at all? Who are you? Are you the blood splatter expert? All you gave us was two shitty words.
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>>43564385
Oh yeah, i forgot things are just black and white with autistic people. Clearly either shit or good.
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>>43564036
Okay fine, then make some recommendation for what I should be using? Right now I use Lahmian medium for cloth surfaces, while using 'ardcoat for large/metal surfaces, exactly as based duncan recommends.
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>>43564386
No, the heat dries it, the humidity causes the paint to pick up water in the air before hitting the model.

Humidity in the middle of the summer and middle of the winter are just as bad. You want 50% or less. You basically can't live on Vancouver Island if you want to prime minis outside with spray paint.

Frankly, you are probably going to have to look into acrylic gesso brush on primer, GW imperial primer (that I haven't used but that is what it is supposed to be for) or make a DIY spray booth for inside. Regardless, always wear a mask unless you want a nice thin coating of paint and chemicals on the inside lining of your lungs and shake your cans for a FULL 60 seconds OR MORE. I do 15 seconds right, 15 left, 15 right, 15 left. It's a ritual.
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>>43564606
THey are two completely different items.

Lahmian Medium is a matte medium. You can go buy it at a craft store. It is a drying retardant (that is, it slows it down) and flow aid. That is, you can thin your paints with it, and you have more time to work with them than straight out of the pot or if you had just added water.

Ard Coat is a hard coating that you apply over your model to protect it. Just like a clear spray to protect your models.
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>>43564571
Please reconsider means please reconsider that choice, "are you sure you're fine with it, if you are that's ok".
If you want my blood splatter expert opinion adding blood to blades looks stupid in 99% of cases and is a classic noob mistake. In your case I think it looks completely out of place, and it would be better off without it.
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>>43564606
Lahmian Medium is literally just paint medium, it's the liquid already in paint that the pigment sits in and GW is hosing you with that $4 price tag because you can get a pint of the shit from Wal Mart for $2 with no quality difference, it's the same exact thing. It's colorless paint.

If you want to seal models you need actual varnish made from acrylic resin or something, I use Vallejo matte. Yes, it will fuck your paintjob a tiny bit and won't be completely as matte as the paint itself, that's the price you pay for durability and it's why display models are not varnished.
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>>43564738
>>43564712

What. The. Fuck. Nevermind then that duncan recommended using it on the model as a seal for cloth surfaces, nevermind that I have it on an Ork wyrdboy on my desk right now sealing his cloak, or that it works. And it works well.

Nevermind, it does what the hell I'm currently using it for. So I suppose then I get to buy this shit for cheaper? Wonderful.
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>>43564731
I knew we could get some sort of substance out of you.

You mean on the blades on the wheel that is parallel to the ground meant to bisect multiple enemies on the battlefield by simply moving? That is where there would be no blood? Cuz even spinning it would be drenched.
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>>43562298
go vortex or go home
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>>43564167

I've never heard of nylon wire. Are you talking about monofilament? I don't see how that could possibly cut plastic without utterly fucking the model. Razor saws are only good for straight cuts.

Also, I was talking about the extra fine gauge wire found in shit like solenoid windings, ie about as fine as human hair. Thinner than monofilament.

>>43564246
Ah. I didn't know they made those that thin.
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>>43564863
It's a jeweler's saw blade.
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>>43564814
Who the fuck is duncan and why were you listening to them?

It does not work well, or even how you imagine it is working for you. Your Lahmian medium will chip just as easily as the paint you are trying to protect. It is the same stuff without the pigment. Might as well just do a few basecoat on the cloths *shrug*. Ard coat, as it's name implies, and I specifically said it gives a "hard coat"... gives. a. hard. coat.
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>>43564843
bloody blades is noob edgelord tier mistake
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>>43564814
>And it works well.

How have you tested this? I'm willing to bet if you vigorously rub with your finger the parts that are "sealed" with medium, the paint will come off fairly easily. Do not be surprised when your miniatures look like sand blaster victims after you've been playing games with them for a month and there are patches of paint missing everywhere.
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>>43562409
This is literally how kids burn their parent's house down. I mean, I hope youre a child...
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>>43564843
>>43564731
>>43564571
Jesus Christ I understand English stop fighting I just want to paint purple people rapers
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>>43564926
one horned one eyed flying purple people rapers?
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>>43564926
They don't just go for people my friend. And fuck you for defending your model. I take our short lived friendship back!
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>>43564911
I find it funny when people ask for advice cuz they don't know and then completely ignore the advice.
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>>43564894
>>43564814
'Ard Coat is varnish, the problem is it's gloss varnish which will make your army look shit because . . .

Look, just don't use 'Ard Coat or Lahmiun Medium for anything, they don't work for the intended purposes and while Duncan's tutorials are good for learning basic painting techniques, this is one of those times when you need to disregard him because he's forced to shill GW's bullshit like Lahmiun Medium when I guarantee a painter as skilled as him knows it's bullshit and he would never use such a thing on his personal models.
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>>43564902
Maybe that is your opinion because you are terrible at it? And you said "edge" anything. Youre a fucking loser and your opinion is completely irrelevant.
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>>43564954
I mean I do agree that fuck you, I like blood but still.
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>>43564976
Some say that matte varnish over 'ardcoat will still be matte while offering the superior protection of glossy varnishes. I don't keep my miniatures in trashbags so I've never felt the need to try it. Just something to keep in mind.
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>>43564976
Again, shit advice. Lahmian medium (rather, matte medium) is great. You simply don't know how to use it if you think it has no use. I like how you just claimed pro painters don't use matte mediums yet that's a fucking staple. Sure, pros won't buy a little pot for $5 when they can buy a crap more for cheaper. But it is still a great tool.

Fuck man, I don't even know what to say. It's hard. No matter what you do and research you will always get an informed opinion and then someone like this guy who *sounds* like he might know what he is talking about. But, he does not.
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>>43564902
Hmmmm, I guess we'll have to tell Lester Bursely, the Golden Demon winner, that he's a noob edgelord.

Stop giving advice when you're clueless. In fact there's no reason for anyone in WIP to take advice from anyone who doesn't post their own work to accompany their post, otherwise they could be a bullshitter which is all too common this website.
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>>43564976
Then get a matte spray varnish. Figure it out people!
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>>43565066
Exactly what I was thinking. Just a bunch of fucking fluff in here.
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>>43565052
I do use matte medium, just not as a varnish because it's not a varnish you gormless fuckwit, and you don't even know who I am to know what I have said, consider you are talking to multiple people in this thread.

If you use paint medium to "seal" miniatures you are a 200 proof idiot, case closed. The irony here is that you're not only making an embarrassing mistake, but being smug as fuck about it.
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>>43564923

>looks at cleaning sponge
I wasn't aware that parents were in the habit of giving small children soldering irons these days without explaining that they get hot. I mean I've heard of a few retards not wetting the cleaning sponges provided with a lot of soldering irons, and then lighting them on fire out of morbid curiosity after jamming them into the sponge and watching it smoke for a good number of seconds.

Or maybe I just read that wrong. Let me light a match in this small, unventilated space I've been spray painting in without a respirator, you know, for better lighting.
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>>43565111
You are a fucking idiot. I am the one saying it's not a varnish. Holy shit dude. I also didn't say it was a varnish in the comment you replied to. This thread is doubling down on retardation. It's like you can't even read and then comprehend those words.

>Look, just don't use 'Ard Coat or Lahmiun Medium for anything,

That is what you said, and that is what I replied to. That is categorically wrong. That's like a dude with no legs telling a normal guy a bike is useless. Maybe it is for you, but that's just because you aren't equipped to use it (here the lack of legs being your lack of knowledge of what a matte medium is and how to use it).
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>>43565202
That's the point. I was insulting you. I HOPE you are a child for considering doing something that stupid. I was essentially giving you an out.

>Yes, I am actually a child and not mentally retarded.
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>>43565271
I bet you don't even use hot alcohol+acetone for stripping miniatures
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>>43565253
Let's review the facts:

'Ard Coat is a gloss varnish.
Lahmian Medium is paint medium.

I said don't use them because they are shit products. Why?

1) Gloss varnishing your wargaming models look like trash, it's shiny. You want matte varnish. GW recommends using 'Ard Coat to gloss varnish your models but it's not the first GW gave shit advice. And even if you wanted gloss varnish, you'd be an idiot to pay GW prices for a tiny ass pot of it.
2) Lahmian Medium is paint medium, it is not a varnish. And even if you want a pain tmedium, you'd be an idiot to pay GW prices for a tiny ass pot of it.

So yes, glass varnish and paint medium have uses. You are still a fucking retard if you buy the GW versions of these products, and use them how GW tells you to use them.
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>>43564210
Those feels, man. I too want to spend all the money I don't have right now on this Kickstarter.
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tried to do damage/dirt on the armor for the upcoming horus heresy release. please don't hate me for pic size and shit, I'm on the phone
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>>43565539
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>>43565539
nope i hate you for the blood
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>>43565665
It looks better here. It is darker (technical paint?), he's covered in it and dirt, and the model looks like it is in the middle of a fight.
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>>43564583

You're thinking of dumb people
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>>43565111

I actually use matte varnish as medium
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Anybody know a good way to make these gnarly looking kind of trees?
I like the look of the GW kits but I'm sure there is a cheaper way to get the look.

Something like roots or something maybe? Dead bonzai trees? Aquarium decorationsthough they are actually more expensive than the GW stuff?
Anybody got experience with making trees like this? Don't really want to sculpt them myself.
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>>43566744

>not buying models
>no sculpting

Try sacrificing newborns to God, he digs that shit
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Are Mantic Zombies going out of production?
Have had a hard time finding them lately and now my go-to FLGS has them flagged as OOP.
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>>43566744
Get some wire (bailing wire, electric fence wire, floral wire as long as you can twist it together it works). Start with 3-4 bunched together and twisted then start adding more and branching off.

You can use clay and putty for the bark but I recommend silicone caulking, it remains felxible after it cures so you can do final positioning of the branches. You can even change it after it's painted but going too far you'll end up putting crack in the paint job.

Use a ratty stiff brush to get a bark texture, or just put a few toothpick together and glue them then use the bunch of points as a brush.
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>>43566744
at that level of detail, real wood (branches, roots, etc. - obviously the easiest route) would probably not hold up to being handled.

aquarium decorations are expensive, but i've found terrarium plants tend to be less so. i think because they don't have to make sure its fish safe. aquarium stuff can leech toxic stuff into the water if its not done correctly.

or i could just be wrong due to my small sample size
>ymmv
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>>43565539
Yea, cant say I like the blood that much, but overall pretty good mini.
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>>43565335
I'm not even the guy you've been arguing with but look you fucking moron...

>Look, just don't use 'Ard Coat or Lahmiun Medium for anything, they don't work for the intended purposes

Look at what you said.

You literally said don't use Lahmia medium for anything, and its useless at its intended purpose.

Its intended purpose is a fucking medium, not a varnish. So either you are a fucking idiot that thinks lahmia MEDIUMs intended purpose is a varnish, or you're a fucking idiot trying to dig themselves out of a hole that they've dug themselves into.
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I'd like to see your opinions, or a census about handbrushing-in stencils on minis. Anyone do it?
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>>43558171
Where'd you get your Metal Slug mini?
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>>43558140
Try soaking in 99% isopropyl alcohol, or Pine-Sol, or Windex, or Purple Power or Zim.
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>>43568223
amazon, search metal slug under toys price has jumped since I bought mine
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>>43568406
Are those things worth it?
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Just finished up this guy.
A bit in the pain in the ass.
I wish I had the ability to assembly line my models. I like taking my time with each one individually.
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>>43568169
I doubt brush and stencils will mix well. You can use an airbrush and stencils, that'll work, but brushing the paint on by hand will only make it flow underneath the stencil.
There's a guy doing Taurans on the B&C's WIP board. He uses an airbrush and stencil for his chapter symbol.
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Hey guys, found a black Templar upgrade pack and decided to get it on a whim. How do people usually load these crusader squads out? Last I heard, people were running ten marines with pistol/ccw and a special like plasma, and then 1 scouts with shotguns.
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>>43568573
>I wish I had the ability to assembly line my models.
If you paint more than 5 or so models at once it really sucks the fun out of painting though. Make it a repetitive menial task. With around 5 models you can keep working consistently and still feel like you make progress.
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>>43568706
So lining the border of the stencil with liquid mask is no good either?
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>>43563201
It's looking good, but god damn that is a bullshit model. Definitely won't get it for my army.
Don't know if you've finished painting, but the steeds' claws could need some work.
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first step done. soviet cavalry.
Bolt Action cavalry is seriously broken. the local meta feels rather like Black Powder ...
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>>43568750
Good call. It has been taking me months. Took me all summer to finish 10 Death Company soldiers. But I'll give the five model idea a shot.
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>>43568844
never tried that. But that sounds like you are bound to change the outline either by overpainting or by stuff seeping under it anyway.
At the very least give it a try, I never did it. I sucked so bad with decals, I just resolved to paint everything by hand and these days I just sculpt it.
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Concerning thunderwolf cavalry and stormshield...
Is this how theyre supposed to be glued? Cause it feels kinda...wonky?
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>>43568990
I do recall that masking tape + liquid mask (as the rubber border) is a watercolor masking technique since the WCs sloshes and seeps around.
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>>43568406
AND MAKE IT MOTHERFUCKING DOUBLE.

I see you moved the WE over with his chain sword flipped the other way. Actually looks better for another reason now too and that it looks like he is going to get mashed pretty good with those "wheels!"
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>>43566845
>Mantic Zombies
If only they had an official website in order to check if they sell them (they do) or even get their contact information to ask them directly instead of random people on the internet. I fear for the future of the human race....
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>>43566865

That is one interesting suggestion with the bundle of tooth picks. You essentially brush with a "faggot." I don't even need that to be a joke.

Also, I just recently watched a video of a guy using hot glue instead of the caulking. It make for a surprisingly convincing build and texture.

Also, for those would be tree builders, consider that you can also use your dremel or drill to twist two wires together quickly. Google it or something first though, that could be dangerous if you are careless, and by god people fucking are!
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>>43566867
So, you are suggesting handling things that you suspect are more toxic? While I think you are wrong in that assumption, I also think it's pretty hilarious that you suggest it failing to see the potential downside to that.

Anyway, you want even cheaper go to a dollar store.
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>>43569216
I haven't build one, but it would seem it would be best to build it in such a way that you can properly line the arm and hand with the mount. Maybe sticky tac his ass to the saddle and line up the limbs.
To me, it looks odd because his shield arm might be higher than it should be? I base this on how he looks and the 360 degree model on the official website. Yours looks like he might be hugging down on the wolf pretty snug/hard/tight.

These don't look like recasts and as such I would assume you have the construction instruction that came with them and can reference that...

I'm sure you could find a scan of it if you looked hard enough even if you did have a recast.

tldr; Try to actually build it on their wolf mount or at least dry fit it with sticky tac in order to make sure things line up and look natural and aesthetically pleasing.
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So tomorrow I will start priming my first models (Ravenwing Command Squad). I have each of the three in multiple assembled parts. The banner looks like a challenge with my somewhat limited color range.

How do you work up the courage for even more detailed models? I never really admired how much detail the command squad had until I put it together.

Ambitiously I got a (as I just found out) "Finecast" Sammael. I was fairly worried it was a fake since it looked and felt so different. It had a lot of flash some of the spurs were bent. I can't even fathom what small peices to partially assemble. The detail is so great.

I picked up grey spray primer and I hope it is in between the Finecast grey and Citadel Plastic grey so I can see if I miss something.

Any tips for priming? Obviously I will be out of the wind. I have the cardboard box the lot came in to paint on.
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Still have much to do for this guy, pistols, holsters, hazard stripes and the base, as well as a bunch of cleanup where i was a lazy fuck.
anyone have good suggestions for doing hazard stripes, the painters tape i can find is far too thick?
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>>43570688
I've got a power drill and a vice to speed up twisting the thicker gauge wire I've used. I've seen hot glue used but I've also seen that hot glue will kinda degrade/decompose over time, I've had things just fall apart and the hot glue in it is just a kinda oily mess.
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>>43558647
Dude! i like! if you dont collect the army can you sell him to me?
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This is Heinrich the Ogre Ninja, he's for a Mordiheim warband.
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Lamenter bro here.

So.... I may have found an additional ally for the poor cursed bastards.

yeah yeah the Templar would never work with the lamenters but dammit the colors schemes will complement each other so nicely and they're my two favorite armies.

Really tempted to share livelry between the two and say theyve been fighting alongside one another for a while, similar to that time the crimson fists and Templar fought together. Literally no fluff basis for it, but fuck it. I'll say the Templar have decided to use the Lamenters as bait since they always seem to find the best fights no matter where they go
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>>43572361
And a better view of his sword.

Wanted to kitbash an emperors champion just because that way he's special to me
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Built my own horse drawn limber for Bolt Action.
1 more order dice for 7 points. uh yeah.
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>>43572361
>>43572377
>>43572361

Weren't the lamenters involved in any of the large scale campaigns as well? Armageddon, badab?
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>>43573045
>>43573045
don't know to be honest. Never heard of it but given the black templars are all over it wouldn't surprise me
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>>43572361
>>43572377
>>43573189

There are hundreds of BT Crusades happening all over the galaxy, who cares about fluff, just make your own crusade. It's unlikely Black Library or GW are going to detai levery single crusade just to invalidate anything.
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>>43573189
>>43573221

Well, apparently BT and lamenters were both involved in Badab on opposite sides. You might want to make a deathwatch killteam at some point anyway? Everyone can play together.
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>>43564540
I just pointed out where he could work a bit more. But I guess you're some kind of /tg/ jesus that takes all bad painters under your protection and saves them form not-praising comments. Or you're that guy who got really mad because you worked soo long and expected applaud after posting your toy 3 times and getting only 1 answer that was not what you expected.
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>>43563326
you should put the marine around the thresher on the back and have it grinding him in half
that'd be rad as fuck
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>>43563326
Only thing that i can think of is that the base looks a little flat. A thinned down wash or some drybrushing might help.
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First power armored space marine, painted a handful of termies though. Kinda rougher than I hoped, not super satisfied with the mace. Thoughts?
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>>43562330
Aggrax dat metal ya git.
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>>43573466
very nice. looks gritty 'n tough
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I know this probably doesn't belong here, but I'll post anyway.

It's attempt at painting a miniature. 1:72 King tiger. Any advice, comments, criticism are welcome.
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>>43573802
my first attempt*
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>>43573802

nice stick I guess, tap where you want your cam to focus
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>>43573818
I'll try getting a better pic when I get home.
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>>43573842

>tfw camo too effective and cam won't focus
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>>43573802
keep at it. so far so good. it's far from finished I suppose`?
check some weathering tutorials.
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>>43573870
Lol, I suppose

>>43573871
Yeah, I still haven't decided if I wanted it "factory fresh" or weathered. I think the weathered look works better with diorama, sadly I don't have enough space for it.

Great sherman by the way
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>>43573871

Delicious potatoes
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>>43573802
Drybrush and ink wash
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>>43573871
Can you take, and post a better pic? This one is too blurry for that pure awesomeness.
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>>43573925
I'll give it a try
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>>43573466
Is he called Paul? because he has wings
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>Delicious potatoes
yeah I know. they are already gone.
was a big failure.
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and done.
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>>43574062
aren't you going to put a little fella in it, or some stuff in the back?
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>>43563326
That guy is just lying there, it's boring. Not dynamic or even realistic.
If you want to make it interesting, pose him like pic related! Or something like he just got bumped by one of the steeds, at least.

Also not sure about the colour. He seems to attract more attention than the chariot, with this red.
I'd have gone for an Imperial Fist, in a dull yellow, not too bright, to get a nice complimentary colour to the overal violet of the chariot.
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>>43574185
I'm thinking about putting some stuff on it yeah.

I have no driver though.
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>>43564902
I think what you're trying to say is that badly done, I'll-just-splatter-red-paint-onto-that-bit, blood splatters are a noob mistake.

I don't know about edgelords, so I'll assume you're being silly. No blood on fighters who spend their time in close combat with bladed weapons? Surely you jest...
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First time posting my work in wip thread, thought my raptor champ is kinda good, would like to hear some opinions. I'm to afraid to paint yet, But I'll get to it soon enough.
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Kitbashed an Inquisition Warrior Acolyte from spare bits. Thinking of making more of these guys, how does it look?
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>>43574022

They were kinda cute you know
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>>43574370

The build is good but it's going to be a pain in the ass to paint like this. I hope you didn't glue it yet?
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