Finally the king of formats has it's third and final GP of the year.
Maximum cap has been reached a month before apparently.
Nice to see the first Legacy GP since DTT got banned.
Come here Legacy bros, let's chat about the comfiest format ever, tell us which decks are you playing, which decks are you testing, if you have any homebrew maybe?
I just want Miracles to take it so we can finally ban SDT
Imperial Painter fucker reporting.
I don't know any better feeling than Blood Moon turn 1.
>>43519130
i hate you
Didn't scg just announce the death of legacy?
Sorry kiddos but the reserved list you cherished so much has finally killed your format. Lol.
I just want to see someone play a loam/pox build, Manaless Dredge, or Food Chain. I know they aren't Tier 1 decks but boy are they fun to play.
>>43519170
I agree. Lands became the Loam strategy to go right now.
I like myself dredge but i dislike the manaless version. It just dies to GY hate, while dredge can play around it.
>>43519163
modernpoor pls go
>>43519163
>the death of legacy
Where did they say this?
So I have all the pieces for Deathblade or Shardless BUG, which one should I play?
>>43519205
I primarily play edh, and my decks easily rival the most expensive of legacy decks. Get fucked.
>>43519423
When they showed thier plans for next year. I believe they have 1 major legacy event in all of 2016.
>>43519423
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/31835_StarCityGamescom-Organized-Play-Update.html
Lol prizes = tickets. So much damage control on Facebook, west coast ignored, legacy dropped.
>>43519574
they only anounced the first season, which had 2 legacy opens, 3 modern, 3 standard.
Poorfag burn player here. Catch me wearing a cloud9 shirt.
>>43519664
Legacy players have to be the biggest babies in denial ever.
I can't wait till the format finally dies and the buylist prices of your decks plummet.
>>43519760
Standard players are worse, they actually believe their format is worth playing
>>43519818
As a Standard player, this is correct
>>43519163
Good. Fuck the Reserved List
>but muh investment
If you actually see pieces of cardboard as an investment you're a fucking idiot
CEDRIC ON FEATURE MATCH
GET HYPE
>>43520460
>reanimator
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>43520529
yeah it's kinda hard for me, because i play both reanimator and stax :(
that stax player is close to being retarded
>>43520529 (You)
>>43520564
>>43520529 (You)
Damn, just back from dinner and missed the match, but I see Cedric has won, which is nice.
Sorry stax man.
>>43520830
no problem. i love reanimator too. right now i'm heading to my local tgs for the legacy weekly and also watch the stream. i'll bring my own brew, black stax:
Artifacts: (25)
2 Bottled Cloister
4 Chalice of The Void
2 Crucible of Worlds
3 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Mox Diamond
4 Smokestack
2 Trading Post
4 Trinisphere
Creature (9)
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Ophiomancer
1 Mardu Strike Leader
Sorcery (2)
2 Toxic Deluge
Lands (24)
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
4 City of Traitors
1 God's Eye, Gate to the Reikai
2 Peat Bog
4 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Wasteland
if burn steals g1 he can just mull to his GY hate and that's ogre
>>43519677
dude with exquisite firecraft burn jumped to Tier 1, check MTGTheSource
>>43520928
Interesting, post results afterwards please.
I'd probably run 2x Urborg and 3x Swamp, but that's just me.
>tfw the burn player mulled to literallly lands and cage
just for people watching the stream and thinking dredge sucks, manaless folds to cage easily but LED Dredge can play around it pretty nicely
>>43521098
And won. Manaless Dredge is fragile like that, but hot damn if it isn't fast.
>>43521130
Regular Dredge is far more resilient indeed. Probably one of my favourite decks in the format.
Also, holy shit how retarded are those announcers?
>>43521152
they are dumb
really curious why he didn't FoWed the bridge.
>>43521295
Probably betting on the ol' Flayer of the Dredgebound route, which the bridge doesn't stop in any way. Had he known in advance how his topdecks would turn out he's probably rather have forced the bridge. Not sure if he would've been able to deal enough damage to win though.
All in all, he seemed pretty inexperienced with the deck in my opinion.
Also, he kept changing the order of his graveyard, what the hell.
>>43521377
>Also, he kept changing the order of his graveyard, what the hell.
That's against the rules. Did he not get warned or anything? I didn't see it.
>>43521476
Yes it is, and no he didn't.
Notable example: at the end, he was contemplating exiling one of his Phantasmagorian's to Ichorid and put it on top of his yard, but decided to exile some other creature instead. He didn't return the Phantasmagorian to its original position in the graveyard however, very strange.
>>43521536
They should just errata out any reference to graveyard order. There's only a few cards that mention it and it's a stupid thing to keep track of.
>>43520460
Fucking hell I missed it
will they replay it later
>>43522702
mtgcoverage DOT com
It'll be a while before it'll be on there though.
>Jund player not wastelanding
Why does this trigger my autism
Finally round 4, hopefully no more baddies
Is there a reason to play anything other than miracles? It just shits on every other deck.
Yo, Legacy folks! I have a question. So Elves, Goblins, and Merfolks are all considered "viable" decks in Legacy, what would it take for a mono-white tribe or a mono-black tribe to crack into Legacy?
>>43525656
Elves is barely a tribal deck, and I don't think there are any white or black tribes that have as many synergies as fish or goblins.
The MUD player at my lgs calls his deck tribal golems, so there's that I guess
>>43519163
Do any legacy players actually like the reserve list?
>>43524386
Well, Miracles has a hard time with BUG decks now that FOW is gone.
>>43525712
I meant DTT, fuck me. I'm a moron.
>>43525712
No, the only people who like the reserve list are store owners, as it protects the prices of singles.
>>43525870
And collectors, as it protects their investment.
Because they shouldn't be held responsible if the price tanks on an investment.
>>43525937
I've never met a collector that wasn't a store owner myself, but then again I live in a relatively low-population area.
>>43526149
Most of the collectors in my area are avid legacy players. Like the dude who has every bug deck.
>>43525656
Soldier stompy has been a fringe deck for a while and you might be able to run some zombie synergies in a zombardment deck or a dead-guy ale shell but zombies probably won't work in mono B.
>>43526196
Well, a buddy of mine plays soldier stompy. Real pain in the ass.
>>43526196
>>43526671
The fuck is soldier stompy? List?
Who the hell is Karl?
>>43526910
Some schmuk from the feature match in round 2. He neglected to crack his Wasteland (he even had two at a given time in the same game) and keep BBD of Jace-mana, which logically cost him the game. He might've even won that one if he Wasted.
Twitch chat is going nuts over it.
>>43526713
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=3122&d=219617&f=LE
>>43527094
>http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=3122&d=219617&f=LE
>>43526196
>>43526671
Looks like a worse DnT
>>43527153
Pretty much yeah.
>>43527153
The only thing I see it running that Death and Taxes also runs is Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.
>>43518777
why would that cause SDT to be banned?
So, is there a single card from the commander set that has a small chance to see play?
Karlov? Mizzix's Mastery? Blue Confluence?
>>43529474
Fiery Confluence could see play in legacy burn. 6 damage for 4 mana is the single-most efficient spell for that much damage, and the versatility it gives you is important as well - PLUS it gives no fucks about leyline of sanctity since it's "each" opponent.
>>43521071
Hi stax guy here. Went 4-1
2-1 Deathblade
1-2 BUG Loam
2-1 Storm
2-0 UWR Stoneblade
2-0 Miracles
>>43530199
I don't see why they would run that over something like Fireblast. 4 mana is too much for burn.
>>43518664
Dredgefag here. Just built it and got into the format. That's all. Through testing I've found out it's a pretty decent deck and very inexpensive.
>>43530199
Four mana is a LOT for Burn. Six damage for four mana is not what Burn wants.
I'm just going to leave this right here. Apparently Wizards really likes protecting collectors, don't they.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpsea15/disqualification-in-round-3-2015-11-07
>>43530632
Who was the petty asshole who ratted him out, I wonder?
>>43530632
More like protecting their business model. If anyone can proxy cards with no downside or threat of retribution, then nobody would buy cards and they'd go out of business.
>>43530851
Except no one counterfits cards that are readily available, no one is counterfitting fucking Siege Rhinos. It's only cards that are absurdly expensive because wizards refuses to reprint them because that would hurt the collectors' precious feelings
>>43530632
Well, he's a fucking retard if he told someone he was playing with proxies.
>>43530903
They aren't right now, but wouldn't it be nice to proxy fetchlands, flip jace, and whatever else is expensive in standard? Or even modern for that matter. They have to apply the same bans to proxies lest they fuck themselves over with new cards.
>throwing the unloseable
>pro player
Seriously what chance did the lands player have to comeback in 1 turn?
>>43531926
What happened?
>>43530993
Proxy fetch lands are a thing, they are of the Onslaught print run but still usable.
One of the few reasons I might try standard again.
>>43527440
>http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=3122&d=219617&f=LE
Hence, worse DnT. I also see Karakas and Cavern of Souls though.
>>43530257
Nice, how did you like the deck? Anything you'd definitely keep/change?
>>43527627
Because i'm a buttgenocided little memedern shitter that can't play for shit and I go fucking neclear when good players get to play bigboy cards.
IT'S NOT FAIR.
>>43536175
probably i got a little paranoid with the bridges. I mean, of course they are good, but maybe 3 are a little bit too much. Also sneaky show and reanimator aren't that big in my meta.Maybe move one of them to the sideboard. I'm also playing 4 Leyline of the Void 4 Helm of Obedience in the side for surprise combo-kills.
>>43525656
I mean, they aren't really a "tribe" but DnT is a white weenie deck with full of synergies that has been a top tier deck for a long time now.
Mono black I don't think you can get anything, unless you consider the zombie tokens from dredge :)
>>43524386
There are a lot of decks that shit on Miracles
12Post is almost impossible to beat
Goblins will just grind you to death, you'll never have enough swords and terminuses
Stax decks like mine also have a very comfortable game against Miracles.
Shardless BUG also play nicely agaisnt them
>>43527071
not wastelanding was a stupid decision, i agree
Damn Craig Wescoe is 30 and he is in full JUST mode
>>43525712
I'm a collector and I hate the reserve list. I'm also a avid Legacy player. If I want to win I play Storm or Miracle's if I want people to hate me I play Pox, Loam Pox or Stasis.
>>43539205
You could also play Imperial Painter. The face they make when I blood moon them on game 1 on turn 1 is fucking priceless.
>>43539248
True, the only cards I would have to get are 3 Imperial Recruiter and I could run it.
>>43539205
>if I want people to hate me I play Pox, Loam Pox or Stasis.
>instead of miracles
People dislike pox? I've had nothing but good times with it.
Also what version of stasis?
>>43525712
i have 11 duals (8 of them blue), FOW and all the pricey stuff, so you can say that i'm not really a collector. but i would love to see the reserved list abolished, see my cards drop in price but get more people to play legacy. It's by far the most entertaining format, and once you play it you don't want to go back to modern or standard.
DUDE STORM LMAO
HEY GUYS DID YOU KNOW YOU COULD SAC LION'S EYE DIAMOND TO INFERNAL TUTOR TO GET HELLBENT? WOW, THAT'S PRETTY BROKEN
DUDE STORM LMAO
>>43539358
shit forgot pic
>>43518664
Link to the stream?
>>43539399
channelfireball in twitch
>>43539439
Thanks.
>>43539298
Blue White, with Jace version.
People hate land destruction and I run 4 sinkholes 4 smallpox, 4 wasteland and 2 pox. I had a Stax player in a tournament play a land and a chalice on one then I blew up ever land he played for the rest of the game. he did not shake my hand he did not look at me he just made a weird scream and dropped from the tournament.
>>43539579
I should say the version of the deck I was running only had 5 cards in it that cost one and 2 of them were The Rack.
>>43539579
When you understand land destruction is like control, except that you deny mana sources rather than spells themselves, you are a lot less salty losing to land destruction.
>>43539612
I agree, I have a friend that I play test with a lot that plays various delver decks and after playing like 20 games vr's pox in preparation for a tournament he said that quote " That deck is annoying to play against but its very winnable if I don't fuck up and play properly."
He is correct, pox is a 50 50 vrs a lot of decks and terrible against a couple. It was cheap to build when I got it but now it not really all that cheap what with running Chains , Tabernacles, Nevervoids and Liliana's (Have to have foils)
>>43539342
Nice I'm working on finishing my Dual's, I have all the blue ones other then 1 Volcanic and need 4 Scrublands and 1 Plateau, Taiga and Savannah.
Also agree on the Entertainment part, I really stopped playing standard and only a little modern due to the games being boring after a while. I still like drafts however.
>>43539680
if you have time check my list here >>43520928
it really has an amazing matchup against delver decks, and has that kind of poxey feel to it
>>43539759
Looks like a blast, any deck that can run 4 Smokes and 4 Braids I'm up for. I would probably do the Urborg Swap for a Swamp and see about getting a Liliana of the Veil in the 75.
Do you have a sideboard?
Only cards I would need to get for this is the Bottled Cloisters and another Braid so I think I'm going to put this together and give it a shot.
Also anything you would add or remove due to pricing/availability?
>>43539817
I've tried Chains of Mephistopheles in the Sideboard but never really felt impressed by it, specially because of the poor synergy with Trading Post and Cloister.
I went 4-1 with it yesterday, it's really fun.
I tested a lot with Liliana and eventually ditched her because of the double black (braids doesn't get that problem because cavern)
my sideboard is:
4 Leyline of The Void
4 Helm of Obedience
2 Thorn of Ametyst
2 Perish
1 Plague Spitter
1 Notorious Assassin (just for fun)
1 Phyrexian Revoker
The Helm-Void combo kill is amazing and noone sees it coming
>>43540000
>mfw the first time I watched someone pull off Helm-RiP/Void combo on stream
>>43540000
Nice, I thought that might be the case with Lilliana looking at your mana base. I would still throw one into the 75 (probably replace the Notorious Assassin) just because once it gets onboard in the grindy match-ups it looks amazing.
>>43540041
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dakyl80hzvQ
>>43540081
yeah you are probably right. i just can't see myself cutting caverns. they are so insane...
>>43540095
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dakyl80hzvQ
That fucking smile at the end, priceless.
Also, day 2 is on its way!
>>43540095
They do seem really good in this deck, also have issues finding my 4th Mox Diamond so I might have to pick up another unless I randomly put it in a EDH deck or something.
>>43540393
Just watched this and The judge looked like he thought it was hilarious.
>12-post 9-0, 1 game up
nice
makes sense that 12post guy wants to draw, so he goes directly into the face of tons of miracles players. also if he wins he has a good chance of playing against mclaren who is in miracles too.
why didn't he cast the all is dust? it costs 7 but eye reduces it to 5
classic chinky luck
COINFLIP DECK IN LEGACY
HYPE
>>43540791
sorry, what?
Link?
>>43540858
it's on the livestream right now >>43539439
>>43540858
Channel Fireball twitch channel. Its a deck tech.
is Ian Duke the brother of Reid Duke? they both have that retarded voice
>>43541018
>Ian Duke
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Ian_Duke
>>43541018
yes
Why would Shenhar Shahar play Death & Taxes?
> TAXES
> he's a jew
Couldn't resist the call of shekels, I guess.
>>43541224
>chapin
>shahar shenhar
>eric froelich
>paul rietzl
all jew
>aluren 10-0
H O W
O
W
Lands, death and taxes, dredge, oops all spells, miracles, leylines, and Stax reporting in
>legacy is dead
Well you modern players are gonna be pissed when we trade in three dual lands and get top tier decks.
>>43541224
>>43541545
So? Who else can afford the Cards in Legacy?
>>43541732
Luck and good matchups.
>>43541759
If I traded in my dual lands I could get every deck in modern.
>>43541759
Forgot infect and Merfolk and dreadstill and stoneblade
>>43541810
and shardless bug, rug delver, esper mentor, goblins, elves, MUD, affinity, aluren, ANT, belcher
>modernpoo:
>muh tap 4 for muh rhino
I thought I was a combo player, painted stone was my first legacy deck back when you get underground seas for $40, then I built dredge and was having fun. I started building miracles as a side project and fell in love, I started watching videos, reading strategies and all this just made me feel warm inside.
I am a control player trapped in a combo players body.
11-0 Aluren
What is this?
>>43541933
Painter is kind of a control deck when you think of it tho. You usually try to lock the game in your favor while waiting for your combo patiently.
Guy that only needs 20 seconds to use divining top reporting in.
>>43541992
That's true but I never had a grasp of how to control properly, this was 10 ish years ago also
>>43541981
People have always talked about how it's a good deck which nobody plays for forever, now it has proven itself (somewhat at least).
It's like the successful version of Doomsday.
>>43541759
>>43541810
>>43541886
Infect
UR/URW/URG/UG Delver
MUD
Death and Taxes
Merfolk
Burn
Jund
Mavrick
UW/URW Miracles
Shardless BUG
UR/UBW Stoneblade
Lands
Junk
Loam Variant
Storm
ANT
Elves
12 Post
Aluren
Dredge
Reanimator
Imperial Painter
Enchantress
Belcher
Food Chain
Pox
Goblins
Slivers
Soldiers
Doomsday
Legacy is dead and there is not variation or a large Metagame.
>>43542070
Better than
Twin
Burn
Tron
>muh best eternal format ever
>>43540095
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dakyl80hzvQ [Embed]
That was fucking glorious right there. That Jund Depths player? A fucking boss.
reanimator kebab fucked up badly
>>43542626
Can we talk about how ugly there overlay is?
>didnt make day 2
>lsv didnt make day 2
>sperg grinder from my lgs that i hate did make day 2
fuuuug
>>43526910
karl was on jund vs miracles. he has 4 lands in play, 1 of which is a wasteland. he has a liliana of the veil in play, opponent has 3 lands and nothing else. karl has verdant catacombs (draw for the turn), kolaghan's command, and abrupt decay in hand. he plays the verdant catacombs, upticks liliana to dsicard his kolaghans command (???), and then passes. BBD untaps, plays a land, and plays jace TMS and wins.
commentators and chat were in shock that he wouldn't wasteland any land there, as jund on topdeck mode does not need more than 3 mana. personally I was also very surprised he chose to play the catacombs and discard k-command to lily, because again, he had 4 lands (3 if he cracks waste), he didn't need the catacombs in play at all and kolaghan's command is good with lily once they are hellbent since you can cast it on their draw step.
>>43543220
i mean i should add he was refusing to wasteland for like 2-3 turns when really at any point in those turns vs miracles stuck on 3 mana it would clearly be profitable to wasteland. but that last turn in particular it was extremely clear that the wasteland was free, and that also happened to be the turn cycle BBD drew his 4th land for jace on
My boy Reid on point.
>>43518777
Counterbalance is a more fair ban, but even that is super unlikely.
poorfag here, anyone have any budget suggestions to my current list here? i don't get to play much legacy outside of cockatrice, so i can't really justify sinking two grand into the format atm
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/delver-ninja-still/
>>43543635
Brainstorm + fetches seems the budget-ish addition that would have the most immediate impact. Flooded Strand and Polluted Delta are definitely affordable now.
>>43543635
is mutavault in your price range? i know you are on budget, but i guess if you want to really squeeze standstill you could use more than 4 manlands.
also Lam Phan made top8 in the 4000 people Legacy GP last year with UR Standstill, here's his list: http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=8506&d=248860&f=LE
Also, if you ever decide to invest in the format, I suggest your first big buy to be a playset of Force of Wills
also this >>43543818
>round 13
>reading mox fucking diamond
>>43543818
>>43543635
Also, Signal Pest and Spellstrutter Sprite don't seem that good here. Back to Basics adds more control, I'd up the counterspells.
Submerge is very good and cheap sideboard tech.
>reading every fucking card
>11-1
goddamn where did the good legacy players go?
>>43543635
In addition to the brainstorm/fetchs that should be here (cheap due to fetches being in standard) Stifle is cheap as hell right now and I can see that being very good here.
Why does it take so long for people to just spin Top and get it over with? I'm speaking in a general sense, not based on livestreaming right now. I get that it takes time to think about what might happen, but I mean... It's three cards, dude. Pick one and dump it on top.
>>43543818
>>43543832
>>43543903
>>43543973
Thanks for the suggestions. I know FoW and BS/fetches and Wasteland should all be early purchases for someone buying in, but they're still pretty prohibitively priced atm. I cut the Signal Pests and Sprites, and threw in two Back to Basics, another Counterspell, three Stifles and a miser Misdirection.
>>43544118
good legacy players don't take more than 5 seconds to spin top, because they know what they need
scrubs are the ones that take forever
>>43543635
Along the same lines, I'd like a budget suggestion.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ug-wonderdog/
>delver-ninja
Are snag and familiar really necessary? Also why no sideboard?
>>43544175
If fetches are too expensive for you I think this is the wrong format to be playing.
always nice to see LSV getting BTFO
>>43544306
Nimble Mongoose might be good, not sure.
>>43544503
if he doesn't have wastes and fetches it loses a good chunk of its power.
>>43543635
Might I suggest playing UR delver? Its basically a burn deck, and you run a lot of basics, so you get to run price of progress.
>>43544306
madness is a poor synergy, i know what you are trying to accomplish but basking rootwalla isn't as good as it looks.
but anyways i like that you have a counterspell suite.
>>43544306
okay, i'll cut the snags for martyrs
familiar isn't amazing, but cutting threats never feels good. i can't just go down to 12 dudes like RUG delver runs, because all of my guys don't have 3 power like RUG's
such is life in the poorfag zone
sideboard added, but there's nothing really spicy in there
>>43544636
>cutting threats
1/1 flyer is a slow threat, even for 1.
How do you Standstill as card advantage?
>>43544551
>counterspell suite
Always. Couldn't go off without it.
Didn't he Vise unban do anything? I'm going to guess an unsurprising no.
>>43544438
>tfw that smug sjw cunt lsv got btfo
>le topdecking chink
>>43530993
Proxying T2 is unprofitable for chinamen.
Printing is not cheap. You only make money with duals, P9, Tabernacles, Lilianas, Tarmos, Tiagos, shit that's over $100 and is not gonna be reprinted ever or rotating soon.
WotC actually helps fake duals be a commercial success.
#teamcalcano
>>43546792
more like #TeamSpic am i rite
CALCANOOOOO
this G2 is pure cringe
>>43547527
Don't know why the Loam player didn't Karlland earlier.
Pretty rubbish draws for reanimator though.
CALCANOOOO
goddamn de mars is one lucky muthafucka
What's up with Hansen's list? Pretty unconventional, curious to see where he will end up. He went 2-0 against Wong's Grixis Delver.
>>43548759
>>43548759
You could say it wasmiraculousthat he won
goddamn reanimator guy why did you keep that hand :(
lol that fat spic drew literally the perfect hand
Calcano's fucking savage
>Cabal Therapy after Surgicaling
SAVAGE
A
V
A
G
E
Why is this intermission music so damn funky
>>43549277
>>43549288
Is savage the new /mtg/ meme?
LANDS VS GRIXIS DELVER
place your bets now /tg/
>>43549404
Lands all day.
Unless lands is a tard.
>>43549431
Semifinals seemed to go really well for the lands player, easy 2-0 over just seven (!) turns.
>>43540095
>>43549404
Rooting for lands, too much fun
Move over David Long, Jarvis gots this.
So /tg/, how erect did you get when Miracles player got absolutely butt ravaged by Lands?
>>43549595
6/10, got a chub. I'm excited for Lands to take the cup home though.
Also, fucking Tabernacle right now, my penis is extending beyond human imagination.
>>dat crop rotation into tabernacle
I don't Legacy
I didn't know Lands existed, but I love it
why my thing go up?
>>43549728
Do you hate creatures?
Do you enjoy slowly ticking down someone's life total 20 turns at a time?
Do you enjoy wastelanding people out of games?
Then lands is for you!
Has lands ever won a GP?
>>43549783
>>43549728
Do you enjoy beating face with 20/20 indestructible expensive tokens?
>>43549811
No, because GPs are a supreme Brainstorm circlejerk.
IIRC, the last time a nonblue deck took down a GP was Thomas Enevoldsen with D&T in April 2013.
>>43549595
I enjoy it a lot.
The one expensive card I have to get now is Tabernacle. I plan on getting it this year sometime.
>>43549864
All the more reason to root for Lands
Looks like Grove of the Burnwillows is going to get even more expensive.
A nonblue deck winning a legacy GP? Is this bizarro world?
>>43549864
Correct, the Dane is the last non-Brainstorm legacy Grand Prix champion.
One of the few, I imagine. I think Saito was champion before with Merfolk in 2010
>>43550132
well, merfolk is a non-cantrip cartel deck, but its definitely not nonblue
>>43550132
Goblins also won Legacy GPs
>Lands player going for full value instead of killing with Marit Lage
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Man, talk about your slow rolls.
THE GRIND
THE FUCKING GRIND LMAO
"IS THERE A MERCY RULE" BASED CASTERS
FUCK MARIT LAGE ILL PUT YOU ON 0 PERMANENTS FIRST
He's nuking all his permanents to play around submerge.
Gg lands gg
>nonblue deck winning a gp
is this real life
WOOOOOOOOOO
BRAINSTORMS BTFO
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>43550411
He didn't really need to, though.
>>43550449
Yes he was playing around submerge surgical, the only way he could lose.
>>43550449
nevermind, he explained why he didn't go for Marit Lage.
>>43550477
No, he was playing around surgical, not submerge.
>>43550499
Surgical exiles all copies of dark depths, submerge gets rid of the marit lage token
if dd is exiled, he can't actually win the game anymore, and he'll eventually deck himself
>>43550499
No, it wouldn't have mattered if he got depths with surgical if he had a 20/20 already in play. Submerge was his only way to remove the token, combined with surgical removes all his win conditions so he cannot win.
why is legacy so comfy bros
So, seeing as this is the legacy thread, are there any good streams to watch for legacy play? I'm a average death and taxes player, and would like to improve. .
>>43550204
Yes, but how long ago was that?
>>43550709
Bahra used to stream D&T, but ever since he sold out (and the people who lent him the cards sold out, too), he doesn't stream D&T anymore, which is a shame.
D&T barely played on MTGO because Rishadan Port is the most expensive card on MTGO with 176$ each.
>>43550569
he can't lose either. he won't deck with his loams, whereas delver has no way not to deck themself. he was fine :^)
>>43550709
southfloridamagic runs legacy on tuesdays i believe.
also check the SCG page for their Legacy Opens. I believe the next one is in NJ in two weeks.
>>43550800
How does Loam stop him from decking himself?
>>43550709
Card Kingdom streams legacy monday
MTG card market on thursday
South Florida Magic on sunday (I think)
One of the commentators on mtg card market plays death and taxes so there is usually someone borrowing his deck or he talks about it a lot.
>>43550800
He was heavily favored either way, he was playing the safest line.
>>43550889
when you are out of cards in your library, you dredge instead of drawing
>>43550893
yeah i mean you obviously don't actually just try to deck them. there are a lot of cards they could potentially have to beat you in that game.
>>43550899
702.49a Dredge is a static ability that functions only while the card with dredge is in a player's graveyard. "Dredge N" means "As long as you have at least N cards in your library, if you would draw a card, you may instead put N cards from the top of your library into your graveyard and return this card from your graveyard to your hand."
>>43550800
>>43550899
You can't dredge if you have no cards in your library.
You need to put 3 cards into the graveyard, otherwise, you can't dredge and must draw.
>>43550931
wow piss
Good GP overall. I guess Jarvis was doomed if he played against Reanimator in the finals, as that MU is close to impossible. But he got rewarded by fate for beating Miracles.
Lands just won a legacy GP. I don't know what to feel anymore.
>>43551095
Blood moon is gonna get even more pricey, because people are reactionary
>>43551095
Its a solid deck, matches up really well against fair decks and isn't stone dead to combo
>>43550893
Thanks, that's the kind of thing I was looking for.
>>43551114
More like tsabos web
I wish I had the cash to finish my Fish because modern is suffering. I have 4 Vials, 4 Forces, 2 Caverns, and a Mutavault, but that's about it. I feel so close yet so far because I'm broke as fuck. Part of me really wants to sell out my modern burn deck while guides are high because I bought into the deck years ago when it was terrible.
Fuck.
>>43551470
Man, talk about narrow.
>>43552885
>because modern is suffering
What's wrong with it? And are you sure moving to Legacy will correct the issues you have with Modern?
>>43552885
why fish?
>>43553287
I've played modern for years and got into it because it was cheap for me. Guides were $12 at the time, and I liked playing it. Now when I play modern, it's the same thing over and over and over. The people (in general) that play it are insufferable, toxic, faggots, and I'm sick of talking to them at my LGS.
I was at the modern GP in Charlotte, and my friend lent me his legacy fish while he was in the main event. Truth be told, it was my first time actually PLAYING legacy, and I expected the worst because the worst is what I knew. I was fucking wrong. Everyone was cool as shit, took their wins/losses like bros, and genuinely seemed to be enjoying themselves. Ever since then, I've been trying to get into Legacy.
>>43553300
It's what I started with, I guess. It's also the one of the cheapest options, which is a huge deciding factor for me, and has enough thought to it that its not autopilot. Then there's the whole modality thing where I could play it in 2 if not 3 formats with little effort. I also enjoy playing it, so I guess that counts.
>>43553578
Invest in wastelands next, along with force and daz they'll serve you well in a lot of decks
>>43540095
I don't get it.
>>43553578
>>43553646
On that topic, I've been wanting to get into legacy for a while, playing either some storm variant or delver. Been leaning towards delver after watching some videos of the insane tempo plays that exist in legacy, any storm bros got something to say on it?
>>43553646
I have a set of FoW, but what's Daz?
>>43553832
Daze
>>43553855
Oh right. Thankfully, Daze isn't expensive at all.
>>43553768
both decks are completely different animals. storm is very resilient, much more than what it looks, and it's a deck that requires tremendous calculation to actually excel at it. one of the better feelings you'll get is to win games that you thought were completely gone. don't watch the people they streamed today, Hampton, Froelich and etc. are players that mostly play standard and modern but have no clue how to maneuver the deck through actual competition.
This is a really beautiful game played by Josh Hand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3xsVVSYA2I
Both decks are super fun (Legacy is waaaay more enjoyable than modern or standard), it's just a matter of taste. Daze + Stifle + Wasteland while hitting with a Delver or goose is amazing too, specially when you play the mana denial subgame inside the game.
I guess it's just a matter of taste. I suggest you to test both decks on cockatrice and find the one you feel most comfortable with.
>tfw you have 3 Dark Depths from back when I went to a bunch of Coldsnap Prereleases
Should I invest in Lands? I know shit-all about the deck.
>>43554565
Do you have 900 dollars for a Tabernacle?
>>43554565
Dark depths isn't even close to being the most expensive land in the deck, so you have no reason to invest in it just because you have them. Having said that, the deck is really fun, but none of the cards in the deck really go in other decks aside from a handful of cards.
>>43554565
Lands is super ducking expensive dude. Your 3 dark depths make up like not even a tenth of it
>>43554613
>>43554605
>>43554601
Damn, oh well then.
>>43518664
>lands wins
well holy fuck, time to fix my deck up again.
>>43518664
Mana Dredge player here. I found that it's alot less fragile than manaless. Although, not playing LEDs. Too broke atm.
>>43554687
But if you have the dosh go for it. Lands is super fun and one of the coolest decks in the format imo
>>43521635
GY order matters for Nether Shadow. If it was erratad off, the card wouldn't function.
Also does anyone play MTGO here? There's not much legacy in my area so I was thinking about buying into legacy online.
>>43554836
Checking through mtg top 8, I've got a couple of the pieces for the deck in addition to the Dark Depths, but no Tabernacle, which is over $900. If it's essential to the deck's skeleton (like >>43554601 suggests), then there ain't no helpin' it. I got some Magus of the Tabernacles but I'm pretty sure that shit ain't gonna cut it as a substitution.
>>43554915
You can get Italian ones for around 500ish if that helps. And yeah it's that important desu
>>43554915
Tabernacle is pretty much required if you want to be competitive. You really shouldn't let that discourage you if you've got the money. Look at some vids and play test it on cockatrice or xmage or w/e to see if its something you'd like. SCG has a lot of footage on lands so you could look them up. It's a solid deck that shits on any deck trying to play fair with creatures. Just watch out for combo, which is why half the sideboard is dedicated for it.
>>43553702
The player on the right played "rest in peace" to hate on his opponent's graveyard-centered deck, but which also hates his own graveyard.
The graveyard-player sideboarded a card that combos with the type of effect that rest in peace provides, predicting his opponent's sideboarding of graveyard hate.
>>43554915
Its part of the reason that it has a good matchup against fair decks and I would not want to take it to a competitive settings without one.
>>43554980
Forgot about that.
>>43554613
only tabernacle is expensive. the rest can be picked up fairly easily.
grixis pyro pre-ban manabase alone cost as much as lands and both delver and shardless clock about a grand over lands.
