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A gate opens up in Japan, but here is the kicker.
It leads to Warhammer Fantasy long before end times happened.
What happens?
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>>43512582
Dwarves are offered free access to a planet full of untapped resources -- one lacking in Skaven and Orcs but full of humans who will happily trade piles of money for a scant amount of riches pulled from the deep.

Its all great, up until the Chaos Gods show up and ruin everything.
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Chaos starts to corrupt people on our side due to our lack of knowledge of, or resistance to, magic. While our arms and armaments are vastly more powerful, we desperately need the help of the Old World powers to stop our whole civilization falling to Chaos, handing the Chaos Gods a modern army with which to crush them.
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>>43512635
Well for starters Warham Fantasy is a thing.
We can literally ask any neckbeard in their mum's basement on how to resist it.
Or just go on /tg/ and ask.
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>>43512626
More like just knowledge on how their magic works and shit, whole new branch of science.
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>>43512582
The JSDF gets its' shit wrecked, is what happens.
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>>43513034
Literally how?
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>>43512582
An international political shitfest where the real world tries to agree on what to do, while the Warhammer world tries to get us to help them annihilate the Northern Wastes.

All the while the influence of Chaos is seeping into our corrupt, decadent, hate-filled, knowledge-driven, disease-riddled world.

tl;dr
Y'all niggers need Sigmar.
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>>43513190
Greater daemons, magic, undead hordes, skaven hordes, the inhabitants of the old world generally not being utter fucking morons like the natives in Gate, etc...
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>>43512582
>What happens?
Actually you know what?
That answer will depend greatly on where it opens up.
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America: Fuck yeah plays. Japan bows out of the way as an unending stream of nuclear warheads flow through the gate. Gate closes.
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>>43512582

Japan gets it's shit kicked in by medieval peasants, because the only way they ever win a military engagement is when the other side is going full retard, and only when it's in their own propaganda.

Fucking seriously, reading ANYTHING that involves the JSDF being in any possible way relevant gets my sides splitting.
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>>43513190

The JSDF is a joke.

Not even a polite one, hell even the Japanese acknowledge it as a joke outside of the old generations and the JAPAN STRONK guys.
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>>43512582
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>>43512582
> The gate leads to the Northern pole of the chaos wastes
> We are the Chaos invasion
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>>43512626

Dude I think you seriously underestimate how extensive modern mining operations are.

The only reason we don't have Dwarven-tier mountain halls is because absolutely no one who wants to live like that has the money to afford the construction.
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>>43514291
Speaking of the JSDF, can they into Spec Ops?
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>>43514351

Their Spec Ops can, as GATE has shown, wipe out British, American and Russian special forces without suffering any casualties.

They're badasses, plain and simple.
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>>43512635
>of, or resistance to, magic.
Magic is gone in our world because we're already 100% immune to it.
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>>43514369
Every time I feel depressed, I just think back to that, and the laughter cures my sadness.
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>>43514369
because remember each of those groups are not allowed support of any kind what so ever in a mission
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>>43514369
>as GATE has shown

>>43514386
what killed the magic?
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>>43514404

They also forget the Nightvision goggles and other equipment standard for night missions.

Oh, and the CIA didn't know the JSDF had special forces...despite it was the Americans that trained them to a lesser degree of their own training.
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>>43514423

Killing the ever-loving fuck out of the Fae and the Demons stupid enough to crawl out of their hellpits.
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>>43514423
>what killed the magic?

Cephalopods.
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>>43514423
>what killed the magic?

Erectile dysfunction.
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>>43514432
its obviously because Japan is superior in every way to every country~
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>>43514432
>They also forget the Nightvision goggles and other equipment standard for night missions

The Americans, British and Russians are cocky, of course they'd forget the NV because they thought it would be easy.

It's funny how they all deployed a mission at the same time to the same place though! Crazy Westerners.
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>>43514469
so would that make viagra and cialis runestones or something?
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>>43514423
The bulk of it started going away at the beginning of the triassic but since most species can't into magic the levels stayed steady until humans showed up and sucked up the rest of the reserves
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>>43514423
The followers of the God of Abraham.
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>>43513190
a small, retarded child wielding a broken twig wanders over and says something that MIGHT be threatening and conquers the country in milliseconds
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>>43514478
The only thing Japan is superior in, is being cruel when they have a position of power.

Seriously, my Grandfather STILL thinks we should exterminate the entire fucking lot of them for the shit he saw.
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>>43514748
he isn't wrong.
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>>43514748
>Seriously, my Grandfather STILL thinks we should exterminate the entire fucking lot of them for the shit he saw.
Was your Grandfather in WWII in the Pacific Theater? Or is Chinese?
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The USA as defacto protector of Japan sends in recon teams and maybe some scientists to figure out what the fuck is on the other side. Depending on the administration / the Brass in charge of the operation this might get revealed to other NATO leaders. If the USA decides that the potential resources that could be gained from interdimensional colonialism outweigh the steep costs of modern war then some kind 'police action' could theoretically be taken to 'protect' the human realms and sending through pieces of useful technology with the Empire being their primary market.
As to how effective this would be, well thats really up to the author on how effective modern mundane weapons are against demons and such, how suceptable modern volunteer professional soldiers are to Chaos, and if the invasion forces would actually bring all their means to bear on the threats ie armored tanks, attach and transport helicopters, jet fighters, drones, strategic bombers, paratroopers, mechanized infantry, conventional artillery, air to ground attack aircraft, ground to air missiles, and so on. If they did and the officers were competant and didn't underestimate the opposition, then it would probably be a walk in the park. But seeing how incompetent armed forces seem to become in the Warhammer universe, I would doubt it.
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>>43514369
Actually they weren't British special forces, but Chinese.

Actually they weren't special forces at all, they were civilians that so happened to be nearby, be armed, have military fatigues, and a direct line to their intelligence services. I'm not making that shit up.
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>>43514818

He was a combat medic in the Pacific Theater.

It's like, he doesn't give a shit about their ethnic origins, he just believes that the idea of "Japan" should be burnt from the surface of the planet.
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>>43514827
>how effective modern mundane weapons are against demons and such

Considering that there really isn't anything super-special about the fucking blackpowder weapons in Fantasy and they work against Daemons, albeit in great amounts, pretty fucking well unless the author in question is going full-retard or cops out with ambient magic bullshit.
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>>43514827
>modern weapons vs daemons of Chaos
Assuming the daemons of Chaos in fantasy are the very same daemons of Chaos in WH40K (and I have no reason to believe otherwise) modern weapons wouldn't perform very well.

It takes a shitton of 40K diddly to drop a daemon, and the diddly in 40K is more damaging than modern diddly.

In b4 rocks fall, Be'lakor dies
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>>43514884
It's pretty clear that they ain't condsidering that you can kill a daemon in warhams with arrows and rocks
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>>43514884
>(and I have no reason to believe otherwise

If Fantasy Daemons were the same as 40k Daemons, a single bloodletter unit would eradicate half the Empire.

You can banish / kill a Fantasy Daemon with a fucking bow and arrow, or a particularly hefty rock, or a mundane sword.
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>>43514856
What does he think of you pissing your life away on this Olmec engraving discussion facility?
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>>43514884
Regular old cannons work just fine on WHFB daemons.

As for Chaos corruption - we don't have the warp in our world, so that stuff shouldn't do much. If the warp suddenly begins to exist in our world because of the portal, wouldn't that just make our existing religions real, seeing as we have many times more believers in any of them than there are individual humanoids in the Old World?
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>>43514964

He wonders when I'll man up and have a mini-fridge full of varying kinds of booze when I piss away my time talking to strangers and calling each other derogatory names while discussing various topics.

To him, a forum is a bar where you don't get your teeth knocked out or your nose broken when you talk shit.

Yes, that means he gets smashed whenever he does anything on the internet.
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>>43515000
My kinda guy
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>>43515000
He sounds fucking awesome. Combat Medics in the pacific were fucking hardcore.
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>>43515000
Tell him we're working as hard as we possibly can to be able to transmit bitch slaps through standard Internet connections.
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>>43512582
If the gate has a kicker, does that mean we're playing football?
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>>43515074
Do I hear Blood Bowl?
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>>43515049
working on it
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>>43512582
Unlike what the anime says, the sheer amount of treaties could drag the ENTIRE nato forces into the gate.
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>>43514339
Honestly I'd think the Cheyenne mountain complex would qualify as Dwarven tier.
And there's probably several more military complexes around the world which would qualify as well.

I don't know of any civilian complexes which would qualify but then again it probably sucks to live under a mountain.
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>>43515166
I actually looked up the text of the US-Japan security treaty. Funny enough, in the event of an attack on Japan, the US is obligated to come in and stay until the job is done - neither of which conditions mention "at the request of the Japanese." Ruh oh, Shaggy.
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>>43515888

Of course, America at the time fucking -hated- the Imperial Japanese and was looking for literally any excuse they could find to wrap a length of barbed wire around their throats, like an unruly pet, and also like an unruly pet the influx of food, technology, and ideas tamed them.

The fact that said wire prevented the Japanese from getting steam rolled by either the Chinese or the Russians and subsequently murdered culturally is a side-benefit.
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>>43514748
I'm glad your grandfather isn't in any position of power. Anime is more important than the fact some dead nips made confetti out of his buddy's intestines.
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>>43516093

Nah, Imperial Slants did shit that would make Chaos Norscans look civilized.

To their own damn people, and to any captured civilians, Amurrican or otherwise.

Hell, if I remember correctly it was actually recommended to execute any civvies if you had to withdraw from an area and couldn't evacuate them rather than let them suffer under Jap occupation.
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>>43514369
Can someone explain this reference to me?
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>>43516127
I'll be the last one to defend the shit they did in WW2 but that was 70 years ago.
You really think it's fine to justify today's decisions based on something so long ago?
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>>43516289
They have yet to apologize or even aknowledge all the shit they did
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>>43516220

There's a scene / part where a JSDF spec-ops team manages to successfully kill off three other spec-ops teams, despite those teams coming from nations that have frankly terrifying reputations for said spec-ops.

All because the opposing spec-ops teams, to a man, forgot their standard nightmission gear including nightvision goggles.

Oh, and the American teams were apparently unaware of the JSDF even HAVING Special operations units despite America having similar teams TRAIN the JSDF spec-ops, to a much lesser degree.
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>>43512582

I get to have sex with a lizardman
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>>43516323

>Lizardmen
>Having sexual organs

They don't, they really don't.

Well, Skinks might, but it's unlikely.
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>>43516339

But how do they breed?
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>>43516312
So obviously because they're being dicks about it it's ok to be dicks too
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>>43514972
The problem is good gods are weak and don't influence mortal world nearly as much as chaos.
And you underestimate how many neckbeards would turn to chaos immedietly
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>>43516367

Yes, exactly.

Don't be a pacifistic pussy to people who would skin you and rape the filleted flesh if given the chance.
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>>43516367
Have you heard of nanking?
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>>43516363
They don't. They're created in spawning pools.
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>>43516322
Don't forget the best part. The American forces didn't even have to be there as the President of the US was in contact with the Prime Minister of Japan talking about letting them come to the US/talk to him or he will reveal corruption within the PMJ cabinet.

And the President also telling the PMJ he and the American forces were going to kidnap the v.ip's/the American forces only being ID because of a black guy in the group.

That last part killed me. "The only country with black operatives among its numbers is America!"
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>>43516289
>only 70 years ago
You would make a terrible dwarf
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>>43516404
>The only country with black operatives among its numbers is America!
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>>43516401

Or the Bataan Death March?

America wasn't completely pretty either, considering the desire to commit genocide of Imperial Japanese people, putting the American-Japanese in internment camps on the off-chance they were spies-and to be fair they had a damn good reason for believing that- and dropping the nukes and crushing the Japanese spirit rather than invading Japan and getting more people killed than the Nukes did, but the Imperial Japs were fucking monsters, even beating out that Nazi's or the Rampaging Rape Wave that was the Slavics.

The Slavs would just rape you and kill you, the Japs would rape you, peel off your flesh, impale you on sticks and make you watch as they tortured your entire family to death and made you eat their minced organs.
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>>43516387
>people who would skin you and rape the filleted flesh if given the chance
You really believe this don't you

>>43516401
Have you heard of the Holocaust? What about slavery in America? Are you going to retort with how so many whites were also sold into slavery in Europe? Because that's the typical defensive response to American slavery
>B-but everyone was doing it!
All sides did terrible shit. But I'm not gonna spit on a German now because of what happened in WW2.
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>>43516289

>70 years ago

So well within the standard expected lifespan of even a horrifically unhealthy human?
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>>43516470
>You really believe this don't you
I don't wanna say 'gaze upon the face of evil', but go ahead, take a look.
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>>43516322
>>43516404
I got that part, but was wondering what the source was
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>>43516514
It's in the OP you silly willy.
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>>43516514

Gate.

It's really bad, it's basically JSDF propaganda written by someone isn't part of the JSDF, and actually retarded when it comes to military matters.

Oh, and every person in creation is actually incompetent.
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>>43516493
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_See
>I will never forget the face and eyes of one peasant, and his quiet recollection about how his whole village had been herded into a church, and how just before they were about to be burned, an officer of the Sonderkommando gave them the offer: "Whoever has no children can leave". And he couldn't take it, he left, and left behind his wife and little kids... or about how another village was burned: the adults were all herded into a barn, but the children were left behind. And later, the drunk men surrounded them with sheepdogs and let the dogs tear the children to pieces.
>dogs tear the children to pieces.
Everyone was a dick. I'm still not going to walk up to a Japanese kid and slap him for something he had no knowledge of. Inform? Sure. Wish him dead? Why?
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>>43516379
Assuming the Warp suddenly started throwing down, Chaos would get a nice foothold. It would also get an instant intractable fight with the Abrahamic God. He'd speak up one way or the other for some faith, or he'd be aspected.

And he would be a mean son of a bitch. Think about the archaic "Order/Law" Gods Warhammer used to have, but make most of it focused around one figure, and scads stronger because of even the sloppy belief of "bad" Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

If this happened it would be nothing short of apocalyptic.
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>>43516514
see >>43516527

The guy who created it is a JAPAN-Stronk. Politics of it is stupid; China wants to send 500,000 million people through the GATE, that's why it wants Japan (When, India could want the same thing).
US ignoring the MDT with Japan/Blowing all its money in the ME and not be able to help Japan at all.

The military matters, I don't want to start. You only want to read it for fun and laughs.
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>>43516572

Although its worth noting the original creator of Gate is not the writer of the anime and has basically no say in shit.

Its been through a bunch of iterations and generally gets less crazy revisionist nationalism every time it gets remade. Although not necessarily less stupid.
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>>43516470

Here's the fallacy in your assertion:

The Germans have acknowledged the horrible things they did and have apologized.

Even the Russians to an extent.

And Americans constantly do so.


The Japanese have NEVER done so.


The only people aside from the Japanese themselves who don't believe how truly horrific and evil they were are fucktarded weaboos.

Again, it's all very well documented.

But from the sound of things, you're about as dense as the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
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>>43516589
>>43516572

It's basically so bad that not even Alternate History and AU forums would let it stick around for more than a few months if they had any form of quality control.

Hell, I don't like the Salvation War stories, and the difference between them is basically the difference between ambrosia and manure.
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>>43516536
Now how would the Abrahamic God manifesting affect those "bad" Christians, Jews, and Muslims?
How would the god react to their faith? How would they react if the god rejected their interpretations of the teachings?
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>>43516618

God wouldn't give a fuck, he's beyond caring at this point, the degradation of compassion has taken him fully and completely.

He would still fuck up Chaos though, he may not care enough to try and help or punish us when we fuck up anymore, but he still wouldn't let those fucks hang around.
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>>43516367
If everyone else has to shoulder the burden of their past warcrimes, the nips need to as well. Deliberate ignorance of such things is worthy of scorn.
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>>43514972
Not really an issue, since belief doesn't make gods real in WHF or 40k. Gods -always- predate religions dedicated to them.
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>>43516628
>He would still fuck up Chaos though
>He may not care enough to try and help or punish us
>He still wouldn't let those fucks hang around.
Based, Yaweh.
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>>43516617
What's Salvation War?
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>>43516628
>He would still fuck up Chaos though,
Not if they have Iron Chariots.
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>>43516601
Your logic basically boils down to
>You kicked me in the balls a few years ago and never apologized
>You still don't
Which is fine. An apology is needed
>I'll gladly kick you in the balls back the first chance I get
Vengeful but ok sure
>And your son's balls, and your grandson's
>And every generation of your seed beyond
Woah where does this anger spring from
>Because every one of your seed would cut my balls off the first chance they get
Because what? You can't let go of your grandpa's words? You'd kill a stranger based on experiences not even your own? Without your own experiences?
A normal Japanese person hasn't been anywhere close to war or its atrocities. But of course they'd skin you and eat you because their grandpa never apologized.

>>43516647
I agree with this. I think it's ridiculous though to treat people today based on events from generations ago that you don't even have personal experience with.
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>>43516601
Its something to admire about the Japanese, really. Why harm your own children and grandchildren by lashing them for your own generation's crimes?

There's nothing more treacherous and perverse than the old flagellating the young over the crimes of the former.
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>>43516711
Did you fucking read the second post you quoted? It says the opposite of what you are.
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>>43516705

a Humanity FUCK YEAH! Alternate Universe where Hell and Heaven were really just alternate bubble-universes along side our own, and Hell decides to invade Earth, except they were still locked in the Middle ages and expected us to be as well.

Oh, and Yahweh was an angsty fuck and made Heaven into just another shade of Hell, so he decides to stir shit up and "The Red Son of Man will Rise Above the Heavens" is Earth responding the Heaven's aggression with a fucking -DIRTY- Nuke.

It's worth a read, but not any serious thought.
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>>43516289

We still keep talking about the Nazi's and use it to demonize any right wing movement. Hell we still arrest people even tangentially related to anything concentration camp related.
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>>43516735
You're saying that by not blaming the Japanese of today for their grandparents' crimes I'm being deliberately ignorant of their grandparents' crimes, is that it? I should put the kids into jail for what their grandpa did?
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>>43516732
>Why harm your own children and grandchildren by lashing them for your own generation's crimes?
I know, right? Why bother using crimes as an excuse when you can just harm them the old fashioned way.
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>>43516748

Oh, and it was supposed to be a Trilogy, but the author wrote in on a forum and because it was on a fucking forum people had saved and shared it, so when he couldn't make dosh off of it he stopped writing.
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>>43516754
Or you could be a normal person and do neither. Not sure what your point is.

The last thing the world needs is more sins of the father garbage.
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>>43516774
Source on pic?
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>>43516748

It's worth a read because of how bad it is.
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>>43516786
The main protagonist of the new Star Wars movie.
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>>43516790
Is that the one with Lou Reed and Diego Brando?
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>>43516812
Not sure. Its the one where Chewbacca dies, and an ewok takes on his bandolier and becomes the new Chewbacca.
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>>43512582
The japanese forces get their asses handed to them by the rest of the world and then it's the real worlds versus the warhammer fantasy world.
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>>43516788
>>43516763
>>43516748
>>43516705


Don't read Salvation War, go read something half-decent, like The Last Angel.
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>>43516618
YWHA has 1 redeeming aspect.
He might be a horrible diety, but so long you do worship the correct god, YWHA will prioritize that.
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I'm not really familiar with the JSDF. Do people look down on them because they fail badly at whatever conflicts they have engage in, or do people look down on them because they haven't actually engaged in conflict at all?
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>>43516867

>The Last Angel
>A 2000 year old AI in a self-sufficient Dreadnought that fought for humanity plagues the Stars and the forces that destroyed humanity and indoctrinated the single remaining colony

Well shit, I'm sold.
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>>43514423
is the brown kid an argie?
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>>43516988

Oh god, I forgot all about that entire thing.

Fuck, my sides are hurting now.
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>>43516920
I think it's both
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>>43516920
>Do people look down on them because they fail badly at whatever conflicts they have engaged in
>conflicts they have engaged in
>engaged in
I laughed.
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>>43516752
I think the biggest issue with all these Japanese war crimes is that both grandpa Fujo the camp guard and grandpa Atkins the camp prisoner are still around today. It would be different if everyone involved in it had passed away, but they haven't.

90+ year olds are still being hunted down for being desk clerks at Nazi concentration camps and shit, so why should these Japanese people who did equally horrible things in their own camps never be oficially recognised as the scum that they are?
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>>43516812
Yes, this time the world is his.
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>>43512582
WHF physics take over and tanks start blowing up with failed shot rolls. Not much different from Japan's forces right now, honestly.
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>>43517422
Why does Za Warudo have a flat-blade screwdriver for a head?
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If your interest is mining then it's more efficient to simply level the mountain.
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>>43517382
The difference is largely down to the effectiveness of Soviet propaganda.
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>>43514339
>absolutely no one who wants to live like that
Screw you man!
I want a modernized dwarf mountain hall .
Like A Vault from fallout only not shitty and corrupt.
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>>43517382
>so why should these Japanese people who did equally horrible things in their own camps never be oficially recognised as the scum that they are?
Because America needed Japan against the reds post-war and didn't want the PR nightmare
It's bullshit a lot of war criminals won't get what they deserve but it doesn't reflect at all on their offspring, unless they're teaching their offspring to hate the other with as much vigor

Take your shit and baggage with you to your grave. Either help future generations solve your problems or let the problems die with you. Don't leave your hate and fear as your legacy
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>>43516601

When I was in Tokyo museum, I had learned about their own version of WWII but my memory is pretty rusty...

It go something like this...

>Go to war? Ok we can support them!
>What? Ration? Ok...?
>I need to go to the Black Market for coffee... F**king yakuza...!
>Man... I real need to get radio... Let go to Akihabara.
>Shit man... the war is a fucking shit... The war thing is not properly good idea...
>Oh my fucking GOD!!! The Americans bombing us with those fucking nukes!!!
>Ok ok!!! Calm your tits! WE KNOW THAT WAR IS BAD!!!
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>>43517559
>Concentration camp
>Death camp
whats the difference
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>>43517758
concentration camps are a means of containing undesirables (or a place to make them do forced labour)
death camps are a means of exterminating undesirables (i.e. gas chambers and such)

while at a minimum hundreds of thousands died in the Nazi concentration camp system due to overwork, poor rations, and especially disease (which swept through the camps as the supply system broke down towards the end of the war, leading to the mounds of emaciated bodies photographed by the allies), there's very little evidence for the existence of the planned, industrialised extermination of millions of people. No camp found by the British or Americans contained gas chambers, nor were the bodies of any victims of gassing ever found. The narrative of the Holocaust is formed largely from reports from the Soviet zones of occupation.
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>>43517758

It's a picture showing the difference between American / British investigations, Russian investigations, and how propaganda was much more important to the Russians.

Oh, and the difference is that Concentration camps are just prison camps, some of them even had chain-gangs and the like and were treated relatively decent until the War made supply lines shit and resources like food had more important places to be, like soldiers, or to the people who aren't undesirables. Death camps are Death camps.

Hell, you can be absolutely certain that if Amurrica is having logistics issues on it's own soil, the prisons are going to be starvation central.
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>>43517833

He's probably going to say something retarded like "They never found any gassed bodies because they were cremated" while he doesn't understand exactly HOW powerful and hot a furnace has to be to reduce a single human body to nothing but ash, let alone tens or hundreds of thousands, and if they were having issues maintaining FOOD lines how in the fuck were they going to be able to maintain those furnaces?
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>>43517837
>were treated relatively decent until the War made supply lines shit
I wouldn't go that far. Physical abuse/torture and arbitrary executions were commonplace, and working conditions could be appalling depending on the industry the prisoners were being used in.
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>>43517902

"Relatively decent"

Still a fucking hellhole, but when relative to an actual purported DEATH Camp...
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>>43512582
GATE would have worked better with a UN peacekeeping mission
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>>43514856
Heh, my grandpa (RIP-smoking) was the only survivor of his platoon in the Philippines campaign. "Fuck the Japs", all day, every day. But he still bought his first Japanese car in 1995.
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>>43513537
All of which get their shit ruined by loads of dakka.
Amerifat butthurt everyone.
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>>43514263
>Medieval peasants.
>Winning against people with loads of dakka.
America is not the only country with guns.
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>>43518001
>>43518008
Japan hasn't got loads of dakka.
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>>43514432
This.
Besides, Amerifats voted for fucking Donald Trump in that anime, of course they fucking lost. They thought they were only going up against rookies, so it's not Japan being strong. It's the Americans being retarded and ill-equipped.
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>>43518018

No, it's JAPAN STRONK through and through.

The President in charge doesn't affect the fucking Spec-ops teams when it comes to operating.
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>>43518008
>>43518001

Oddly enough, this is about the time the Americans are waking up.

So either you guys are extremely butthurt Canadians, or you are Amerifats trying to fat everything up like the fatty fat bastards you are.

Fat
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>>43518012

You don't need that.

Anything that Japans has will outreach the enemy by a factor of 3 or 4 kms. Even the demons have to get close or make eye contact to fuck things up, while Japan has the higher technological advantage of passive/active sensors and things much more powerfull than the common warhammer cannon.

Have in mind that anything that you can shoot with a 105mm cannon or a missile will have a range of several kilometers.

The problem will start when Chaos, necromancers and skavens starts getting their hands on this. Then is when SHTF, and you can bet that it will happen.

The only way to be sure is to nuke everything until the entire warhammer world is just one big white glowing wasteland of heat.
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>>43516628
>God and Buddha fucked up Slanny.
>It's why the horned rat had to come in, Slanny had no more knee caps from their gang style beatdown.
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>>43518087
>God and Buddha
You let the characters of Indian myth at the Chaos Gods, there won't be anything left.
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>>43516628

I feel slightly ashamed that I like that depiction.

God no longer cares enough to pick us up after we fuck everything up, we've done it on our own enough times that we can at least look after ourselves to a certain degree, he doesn't need to anymore.

But if anyone else tries? Well, it's their decision, and he is going to ruin their shit for it.
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>>43518113
When do the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Xenu join the mix?
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>>43518142
Does the FSM have any real worshipers?
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>>43518142

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is actually an Old One.
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>>43518122
>But if anyone else tries? Well, it's their decision, and he is going to ruin their shit for it.
But if God is around he'd still be omniscient and omnipotent, right?
So he should be on top of that before it even peeks its head into the material world.
What if that's why he doesn't answer? He's too busy fighting off incursions 24/7 and when one does appear it means he's failed.
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>>43518147
If people draw the connection between worship and power, religion power dynamics would shift a lot. If enough people wanted they could probably even try birthing their own demi-god
Would that be a thing? Say a meme started and enough people through the internet invested faith
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>Say a meme started and enough people through the internet invested faith
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>>43518176
We'd just have abother flight 4u9525 incident, wouldn't we?
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>>43518186

Improbable shit happens all the fucking time.
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>>43518223

>Gets blown out of plane
>Lands on a fucking haystack
>Drives car off road to avoid a collision and jumps out
>Lands on a fucking tree while his car explodes
>Car catches fire and blows intense flames through the airvents
>Loses hair
>Ends up winning a million dollars.

There is a True Far at work here, there has to be, it tried to kill him 7 times and failed.
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>>43518223
That man should have never entered any kind of motorized vehicle at any point in his life, yet he just keeps doing it.
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>>43512582
Reminder
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>>43518260
>not shooting the enemy on sight
It's like you don't want to win.
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>>43518260
I know this is bait but come on the notRomans invaded Japan without warning, killed innocents, and kidnapped a bunch for slaves
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>>43518260
Maybe the point is that Japan never really wanted to be diplomatic at all and just wanted a reason to remove the natives while making it look like self-defense? That might actually make more sense the actual manga/anime.
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>>43518252
>>43518252

He's still alive, around 86ish now I think.

He also looks like one of those old people you actually enjoy spending time around no matter your age.
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>>43518315
The point of the LN/manga/anime is to whitewash Japan actions during WW2

pleasure women in korea and china never existed
tojo did nothing wrong
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>>43518364

They obviously did a shit job of trying to white-wash it then.
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>>43516379

Those neck beards wouldn't even make up a fraction of the current worshipers of Islam.
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>>43512582
Fulfill my dream of an elf waifu
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>>43516572

>America is tied down in the ME

Wouldn't the American people be super into supporting Japan in stopping a fantasy land invasion? Wasn't the US military designed with World War 3 and successfully fighting in 2.5 theaters in mind?
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>>43518260
>someone took the time to make this
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>>43518372
>Annihilate their military
>establish cultural domination (and with no negative effect)
>BTFO other nations recon teams who want to get info

anon please, they are protecting their special region form the pig disgusting western powers
Just like with Asia in WW2

Also, They didn't even mention to them that there are other nations besides Japan on the other side of the gat
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>>43518408
The real question is what would actually happen politically if a gate appeared allowing transportation to another land which has essentially untapped resources. Excuse the natives for a minute and consider solely the economic implications.

I cant begin to fathom exactly how the world would break down after such a development at least politically
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>>43518364

Thinking about the original story. The prologue and the first chapter have been translated.

Just put "skythewood translations gate" into google. I can't link it directly because 4chan thinks it's spam.

One real gem is:

>"Do you remember the Battle of Akuteku 250 years ago, my dear senators? How did our great predecessors react to the news of the army's total defeat? Did they lament their lost valour and pride, and negotiate for peace, which was as good as admitting defeat?"

>"Is the memory of how the females of the Empire reacted to the situation still in your minds?"

>"They said: "So what if we lost 60 thousand men?! We will birth that number in no time!"while rolling up their skirts for others to see!"

>"These stories of the heroines of this country, I hope that there is nothing to be said anymore."

The empire are so proud of the fact that they engage in mass breeding to make up for the armies losses.
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>>43518515
The developed world gets richer than it was and everyone else stays the same, probably.
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>>43512582
I was liking this show until...
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>>43518364
>The point of the LN/manga/anime is to whitewash Japan actions during WW2

I'm not really seeing it. Its more of a Cortez fucks the Aztecs parallel, except the Aztecs in this case WERE asking for it.
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>>43518560
You understand that they're actually fighting the elf/wizard/death goddess and they think its japanese agents, hence his confusion, right?

I swear /tg/ is so full of misinfo over this mediocre shit that its actually sad. What triggered people so bad about this? Its just a japanese comic about modern military in fantasy-land.
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>>43518314
After which the Japanese declared their entire planet to actually be Japanese soil and sent in their army to subjugate the entire world so they could have its resouces.

They had legitimate cause to attack but I think that starting the conflict by declaring that your opponent's nation is actually your territory, and thus the opposing army is not a legitimate military but a terrorist organization, is a really stupid idea.

Just remember that GATE is written by a Japanese Ultra-nationalist fanatic.

It's why America is written to be some kind of retarded saturday morning cartoon villain and the Japanese never, ever, lose any fight no matter how large or small.
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>>43518593
You know it ends with the Gate being closed and reopened years later by a joint UN effort, right? Also that it was all about funnelling some souls out of our world into the fantasy one.
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>>43518581
ok tojo
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>>43518589

None of them bothered to actually watch it and grabbed a screenshot from google or wherever, I guarantee you. Mind you, I haven't watched it either; however, if the context you're providing is correct, then it makes some sense.
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>>43518610
>if the context you're providing is correct
I remember it, and I haven't seen the anime, only read the manga.
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>>43518619
...Its really how the novels end. Harem guy stays behind.
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>>43518645
If it's not real I'll be mad
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>>43518589
No, at that point of the fight they're engaging Japanese special forces, the fantasy characters don't even know there's a battle going on at that point.

It 'triggers' me for a few reasons I'll try to explain.

1: America is presented as a completely retarded antagonist. The reasons they do things make no sense whatsoever and it's pretty obvious that the real reason behind any action is 'to look evil' because the author hates America and can't be assed to come up with reasonable reasons for having them be an antagonist. Further, America is portrayed as being evil because they want to exploit the resources through the Gate. But Japan is portrayed as good because they want to exploit the resources through the Gate. I trust you see the logic here.

2: Japanese characters are about as self assured and morally perfect as season one Star Trek. It's a huge case of protagonist centered morality. The JSDF are presented as the plucky and likable heroes who don't let the war get them down as they slaughter hundreds of thousands of enemy troops. It makes them look a bit psychotic that they don't even blink as they watch entire fields of enemies reduced into hamburger meat with no chance to protect themselves or escape.

Also there's an entire episode about them defending their actions against a civilian inquiry that could not be run by bigger strawmen. Rather than explore the issues of such a lopsided war it presents anyone with concerns about the deployment as retarded and the JSDF as perfect.
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>>43518670
3: As a war story, it's boring as all hell. The JSDF never, ever, loses a single fight. In fact I don't think they've lost a single individual soldier so far in the anime. This is a world with colossal dragons and powerful magic users and literal demigods, there could be all kinds of powerful creatures and mages on the enemy side. But instead they're just bog-standard medieval infantrymen and all the characters with fantastic supernatural powers end up siding with the JSDF. The enemy is not written to be a powerful antagonist to be taken seriously, but a pitiful enemy meant to be looked down on as they are slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands while being morally inferior.

Sorry for the rant. It's just that I really wanted to love this show, and it had a lot of potential in my mind, but it ended up being written like propaganda and while occasionally funny, I couldn't stand the boring war story, totally one sided issues and America presented as some kind of Dick Dastardly villain because the author personally hates us.
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>>43518670
Donald Trump.
Amerifat critical thinking skills are at a all time low.
Skill of soldiers don't matter if your higher ups have unrealistic expectations.
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>>43518691

>Donald Trump
>bad

Not even American and I think you're a faggot or an illegal immigrant.
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>>43518686
To be fair it did take magical steering to get the LAW to hit the dragon, and they still needed a pit of C4 to take it out in its nest.
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>>43518691
Anon, the President doesn't really have all that much power over how SOCOM types operate.
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>>43518701
George Bush was responsible for 911.
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>>43518691

If Donald Trump actually affected the Amurrican Military in any possible way beyond "Have more or slightly less funding" and "It would pretty sweet if we could do this, what do you guys think?" he would be beaten half to death in the fucking Oval office by every senior officer in every branch of the military.

The same is vaguely true of every President, really.
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>>43518701
If you don't think he's so fucking bad, let him come and lead YOUR country, you fucking idiot.
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>>43518713

Everyone knows it was a Saudi funded job. Bush just capitalized on it while classifying the report linking them to it.

>>43518721

Fine send him over I'll take him. You can enjoy Clinton or Bush.
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>>43518670
But they don't actually exploit the new world, the most they got is a single trade center. They also don't actually go on wars of conquest at all, just defend themselves. And the characters DO come down with PTSD and concerns about how one-sided the war against the Empire is, its the main theme of the manga, addressed in like the second or third chapter. That and fanservice.

America's actions are: Trying to steal the elf and co. To ransom them back to Japan inexchange for access to the gate so they COULD exploit the new world, that's the source of the whole IMAGINE WHAT RICHES WE COULD HARVEST thing, its not said by the Japanese.

And the whole thing stops being one sided when the Empire allies with China.

To me it seems most people are mad at this because it trivializes America. Its actions seem completely probable seeing how the whole Middle-East has been the past 100 years.
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>>43518593
Japan never losing a fight? Korean Admiral Yi Sun-Sin would like to have a word with you on that by sinking your entire navy with less then 50 ships. Repeatedly, to the point where your advance on land has to stop completely due to lack of resources to keep pushing forward.
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>>43518721

I'm American and I'm going to tell you, you're full of fucking shit, m8. He's not Nixon-level assholery and he's not even president yet. Yes, his policies are probably fucking retarded but none of the candidates are nearly as good a prospect as Trump might be.

About the only hope we'd have of not getting a shit president this time is if a nuke bombed the next two Republican and Democratic debates and let us restart.
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>>43518751
He is talking about how Japan never loses in the novel/manga/anime
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>>43518739

America doesn't need to ransom anyone to Japan, it's in the treaties, if Japan comes under attack America is obligated to roll in and set up shop regardless of whether or not the Japanese want it until the situation is resolved.

Seriously, if Gate actually happened, Japan would have been reduced to the rough equivalent of a condom overnight.
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>>43518757

You can literally go read the policies he's released on his website so far.

And his policy on refugees from Syria (that he mentioned in an interview at some rally) has so far been the most sensible out of any fucking nation in the west, and its one suggested by advisors to the UN. Build a fucking safe zone for victims of war to go to and be protected in by troops until its over.
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>>43518761
They can't keep the gate and the whole thing starts with thousands of japanese being dragged across as slaves.
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>>43518765
b-but muh nippon stronk
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>>43518776
Only a temporary setback, besides without that there will be no story
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>>43518772
There's got to be some abandoned mines about, why can't we kit those out for refugees?
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>>43518761
I know, I've read a bit of it. I just like the fact that the guy who writes/draws? it never noticed that anytime Japan ever attempted to have an empire, it's almost always ended badly for them.
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>>43512582
Slaanesh does japan
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>>43518809

Do you know why they are abandoned? There's most likely a very good reason for it.
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>>43518825
>why are mines abandoned
They ran out of ore.
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>>43518814

Japan is only allowed to have an Empire...on the landmass that is Japan.

Because it isn't really that valuable beyond being South Korea's neighbor and a good strategic asset against China.

Actually, South Korea is more valuable than Japan.
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>>43518757
Ahahahah.

Suuuure. The man that's bankrupted himself repeatedly! WHAT A GENIUS IDEA.

You fucking mong.
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>>43514748

My mother is the nicest person you'll ever meet, having given thousands to charities and causes she believes in, and doing volunteer work in the community.

She is also Korean, and believes that all Japanese people must die.
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>>43518814
Japan IS an Empire. Holy fucking shit... Next time you'll think the Queen of England has political power over the nation.
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>>43518862

You're a fucking moron. He didn't bankrupt himself, he closed tons of shop on businesses and then started new one's.

If you're going to talk shit, do it right.
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>>43514748
Thats normal, my grandfather thinks all Americans are serial rapist child killers. Then again he did lose his younger brother to a US bomber that decided an elementary school is a military target.
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>>43518877
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/

>Fast-forward to 2009 when the global recession triggered Trump’s fourth trip through Chapter 11. This time the process resulted in Trump himself stepping away from the properties as his lenders, led by Carl Icahn, took over. Even the billionaire activist investor couldn’t save the ship, however, and Trump Entertainment filed for bankruptcy again last year. This time The Donald was only a belligerent bystander.

How, exactly, do you manage to breathe? Do you have a machine that does it for you?
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>>43518875
She doesn't and it would hardly constitute an Empire when it just incorporates...itself. Japan is roughly the size of California and really if you're just calling it Empire because of the smaller islands near it that it annexed that still counts more as your average nation state than an actual Empire that tends to span across multiple nations with a surprising amount of diversity of peoples and culture. Japan isn't really any of that.
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>>43514423
>>43516367
What fucking age are you, 11? These are people who wantonly committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and human experimentation. These are not just things you get to pretend didn't happen.

There's a reason nearly all of Asia hates Japan.
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>>43518896

Do you not even read properly? Look at your own goddamn greentext and tell me, exactly, where it states Trump himself filed for bankruptcy. You said TRUMP HIMSELF, but it's been his companies and companies under his thumb that have.

Not once has he himself, the person, the moron, filed for bankruptcy. His companies? Yes. That is exactly what I have said. The question is, how do you breath?
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>>43518816

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJpBPckm9U
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>>43518896
Dude's been finding tax loopholes since forever, as well as legal ones to stay solvent.
He's an OKAY businessman at best, and his initial funds for real estate was over a million dollars lent by his family and then he got into real estate during one of the nation's real estate booms.
It would take a moron not to make the money he has, it's just that most folks don't have the massive startup funds needed for the real estate business.
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>>43518923
>4th trip
>Through Chapter 11

Yeah, fuckface. The companies HE HAS LEAD.

And you want to let him LEAD. A COUNTRY.

Pull your fucking head out of your goddamn ass, fuckface.
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>>43518816
More like he does the internet.
That's the real reason he is absent, to busy getting his rocks off on the internet.
His arm now looks like fucking Popeye's.
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>>43518919

Actually. pretty much everyone but China and the Koreas has let it go by this point.
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>>43517937
A lot more interesting too. As the various troops of the UN would leave a lot of room for drama about them securing stuff for their home nations on the side.
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>>43518070
Slave would the survive Nuclear War for sure.

Hell even Goblins and Dwarves would probably be okay.
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>>43518919
And if you're a white person there's a pretty good chance that somewhere in YOUR family line you committed hate crimes too.
In fact; this is true of any ethnic group if you go far back enough. We're a pretty shitty species of taken as a group when you think about it.

Japan now isn't the Japan of WWII.
Hell, it isn't even the Japan of 30 years ago anymore even. It' people are increasingly poor, living with a messed-up inbred government, dealing with social issues they can't even begin to figure out how to fix, and are literally dying a little bit as a nation each year as more people die of old age then people are born in Japan.
Japan's not an aggressive Imperialist power with a thriving economy; it's a highly developed nation that nonetheless is in a very sad state because of their terrible political choices and idiotic economic practices. Right now it SUCKS to be in Japan.
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>>43513537
>>43514291
>>43514647
First, this was because of the terms of surrender of Japan. They aren't allowed to have an offensive army.

Second, one man with a 7.62mm NATO MG would destroy the front line of any pre-industrial army. The close order fighting styles of most WHFB would mean you'd be killing two or three men per shot.

>>43518012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force
This is a decent amount of Dakka. Push comes to shove the US would happily sell firepower to the Japanese in exchange for some of what the Japanese mine up.
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>>43518937

I have. Now, why don't you look at the potential candidates for yourself and ask, would you enjoy another Bush presidency? Another Clinton one, this time led by the incompetent Hillary? Perhaps you'd enjoy a Rubio or Sanders one, instead?

The point of this is, none of the candidates are worth a goddamn shit and that Trump himself is an alright businessman with a lot of disposable income. I would rather he not win, but the other prospects are all equally terrible.

Besides that, this is utterly off-topic. Could Gates make for an interesting tabletop rpg, minus nation-wank?
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>>43518593
>It's why America is written to be some kind of retarded saturday morning cartoon villain

Remember, this is happening.
This is the future you're choosing.
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>>43518670
>America is presented as a completely retarded antagonist.

Unlike in real life, right?
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>>43518862
> 4 bankrupt businesses out of over 100 he set up

I'm not a big fan of his but the whole 'bankrupted himself repeatedly' isn't what you think. By all accounts that's a pretty good track record.
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>>43519034
He doesn't really look like Trump.
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>>43518560
To be fair, the Japs were cheating. They had satellites pegging their position which meant that spec op's best defense (stealth, if you didn't know) was out.
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>>43519080
Take away the turkey neck, the bad fake tan and I think it's a fair anime translation of Trump.
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>>43514310
>I know old post
but oh look that nuke just summoned a khornate daemon
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>>43518982
Tell that to /k/ and /pol/.
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>>43518963
Now you get it
and how different cultures react to the inhabitants of the special region and vice versa
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>>43518946
China and Korea are literally Japans only immediate neighbors.

>>43519086
Japan has satellites to spare for a Spec Ops team and the US didn't?
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>>43518919
>What fucking age are you, 11? These are people who wantonly committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and human experimentation. These are not just things you get to pretend didn't happen.

Who didn't? No really, who didn't? Even the US experimented with mustard gas on captives. How are the ingenious populations doing over there? Hows the whole 'repeatedly bombing civilians for years' thing?

Literally every country is built on the bones of the defeated, its about time you realized no-one is a 'good guy'. There are only different interests.
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>>43518589
Butthurt amerifats. The threads about GATE were really fucking bad, and this season with Heavy Object some people can't simply believe that monster machine from the future don't give a shit about nukes.
>>43518919
>These are people who wantonly committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and human experimentation.
Yeah, because the west are always the good guys right? Also, do you really thing that every single japanese person committed war crimes?
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>>43519124
>Soviet and NATO weaponry

I know, the spirit of co-operation and all, but that effectively doubles the logistics chain for ammunition, and rifles aren't that expensive.
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>>43519124
>AKs, FALs, and FAMAS
shit nigger what are you doing
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>>43519129
From what I understand the Asian CIA branch was rushed in with little prep and less intel. My guess is that they didn't even know where they'd be going until the last minute. Satellites, on the other hand, require hours to divert and having them hang over an allied nation is mighty suspicious.
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>>43519177
You deploy them based on what weapons and ammo use
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I feel like mentioning that Japan doesn't just not comment or apologise for war crimes. They outright deny them or honour war criminals. This isn't everyone else dragging these things up, Japan is.
That said, all I personally want is for Japan to just give a similar apology for war crimes as rest of the developed world and stop acting like it was perfectly fine or even praiseworthy.
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>>43519124
Doesn't Pakistan contribute a disproportionate amount of UN troops?

> we'll never see soldiers of all nations play football with the local elf/cat/thing orphans
> we'll never see the UN function without constant vetoing
> we'll never see an international coalition United in ending slavery, barbarism and genocide in the medieval fantasy world
> we'll never see aid workers bring literacy to a whole medieval world
> we'll never see the Empire officials tried for war crimes
> we'll never see Earth mostly United in a single goal (and plenty of pieces of the pie for every party nation)
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>>43519203

Which segregates your forces into NATO and former Pact nations, which is against the spirit of co-operation, which defeats the purpose.
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Yes

All that greetext is right in the feels ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASwAmPpHORA

also
>we'll never see the Italian battalion wining the hearts and minds with food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt_jNexQU8U
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Otherwise it looks like this
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>>43519204
They did, like 7 years ago Abe apologized for war crimes commuted during WW2.
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>>43519121
I have family there, and you know what the most disturbing thing I saw there was?
I was walking with my friend and we walked past this big 3-story building in a residential neighborhood, and I asked in my weak, broken Japanese what that big empty building was since my reading of kanji was worse then my speech.

>"It's an elementary school."
>"Why is it empty? Is it a holiday?"
>"Not enough kids."

The way he said it bothered me.
Like it was a "why, is that weird to you? we have empty elementary schools here all the time, it's kinda funny that you don't."
It makes me glad my parents moved, because I'm fairly certain that I don't want to live in a nation where "oh yeah, we've just stopped having babies" is a casual thing taken for granted.

Apparently since it's an "embarrassing" topic nothing is being done about it, and they won't even discuss it in government even though an entire country dying of old age faster then it can have babies is kind of a serious fucking problem.
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>>43518686
Doesn't American media do this the ENTIRE TIME to places like Russia and China in real life though?

I'm sure there is a Russian tiki carving panel out there where someone is ranting the exact same thing.
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>>43519250
Dang that Italian guy is hot.

Come for the recipe, stay for the bod.
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>>43519276
Is there a legit chance Japan could die out?
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>>43519276
>Apparently since it's an "embarrassing" topic nothing is being done about it

From what I've heard, that's true for every social problem Japan has.
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>>43519283
B-but the Ruski and Chink really ARE like that!
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>>43519265
>not using italy's navy
But it's literally the only decent thing we got
>>43519294
Not really
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The navy is too busy fishing refugees on the Mediterranean
>mfw the operation is called Mare Nostrum
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