>RESOURCES
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
CARD SEARCHING
http://gatherer.com
>Official search site. Current for all sets but has a terrible UI.
http://www.magiccards.info
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
It's not the edition we deserve, but it's the card we need.
Does this mean I can make Phage my commander?
>>43452734
yes but only way to play it is with that non basic land...
phage still useless in commander
>>43452770
Technically, you can use Sundial of the Infinite to force-end your turn while her ETB trigger is on the stack, which should immediately negate the insta-loss.
>>43452770
>>43452734
>What is Torpor Orb
>What is Sundial of the Infinite
>>43452770
Torpor Orb? Withering Boon? Granted she's still super janky but it's completely possible to play her.
>>43452816
>>43452812
Don't forget withering boon
>>43452770
Everyone runs Expedition Map anyway. Either fetch this new land or Cabal Coffers if they need it.
>>43452650
Pick up all the copies of this that you can, cuz this is about as staple as it gets.
Anyone know what this guy does?
>>43452883
When it deals damage to a player, you exile that many cards and can play them.
>>43452883
Flying
When he deals combat da m age to a player exile that many cards off the top of your library, you can play them till end of turn.
>>43452883
Flying
Whenever he deals combat damage to a player, exile that many cards from the top of your library. You may play those cards this turn.
Basically differenter worse prophetic flamespeaker.
Generally I'm pretty good at figuring out what I want to build next but I am currently at a loss after building my first two decks.
I really just want to pilot a difficult deck that can play long games. My first thought was Glissa, then I started having doubts because I realized how powerful a card she can be.
As I learn more about the format and the generals I've played against UG is on the far end of being absurdly powerful and RB or RW have to be completely ruthless to even compete. So I'm developing a guilty conscience about playing UG and get bad feels when I Myojin away 4 people's hands just to stand a chance against the stronger people at the table.
How do I negate this dilemma? I'm looking for General suggestions as well as archetype ideas. Pls no hugs.
>>43452650
That land is so fucking odd.
How do you calculate your mana base?
I feel like I have a pretty good curve and have a decent amount of nonbasic lands, but I feel like I dont have enough U mana period.
>>43452812
>>43452816
>>43452839
>>43452821
>>43452770
just remembered platinum angel as well.
I think I'm gonna screw around with this idea a little more.
Oh, and crucible of worlds is definitely gong in it as well.
>>43452903
>>43452910
>>43452913
Thanks, Moonrune Bros.I'm guessing you guys don't actually read moonrunes, but still, thanks.
>>43453045
Check mythicspoiler
I have 5 slots for counters. Besides the obvious answers of Mana Drain and Force of Will, what are the 5 best EDH friendly counterspells that won't rape my wallet?
>>43453093
Arcane Denial is good.
Yeah, you lose CA, bit you can run it in a lot more decks than counterspell.
>>43452650
Here we go
>>43452650
>Flavour text
Yikes. Make me think that there is some lore behind the commander format in that people unlucky enough to look into said beacon-light become enraptured and Must command armies to conquer others. Only finding rest when hopefully another warlord best them- and hopefully does not reanimate them.
>>43453174
Except planeswalkers do not summon the creatures they need. They just make aether copies out of their memories of that person.
>>43453174
I would be really interested in finding out more flavor behind the format like this. Great flavor.
>>43453242
Good point, but even though we 'cast' commanders the ability to do it at any turn and kinda any time is an interesting idea to fluff up. Maybe it is a little less cut and dry then the usual.
>>43453242
Are you a planeswalker in commander?
>>43453115
Arcane denial is fine because the CA they get generally isn't worth it compared to the card they lose. Countering a prophet or sphinx with it is good for you not them
>>43453093
Swan song
Remand
Just really insanely good. Feels absurd to counter a huge genesis wave with remand.
>store still has one sultai pre-release box
>buy it because why not
>get literally three Tasigurs
>>43453478
Well at least you didn't get figuratively three Tasigurs
>>43453478
tasigur is easily going to be 30 dollars in 2-3 years. why bitch now?
>>43453394
Seconding swan song.
Also spell crumple, dissipate and disdainful stroke are needed for certain threats.
>>43453517
That would be terrible.
>>43452650
>That card
I LOVE IT
Post better boros generals.
How about a non combat effect for once.
Here's what I would have done.
Kaleme, Sherman's Apprentice
1RW
3/4
Whenever a land an opponent controls goes to the graveyard, you get an experience counter.
Whenever a source you control deals non combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage plus x instead, where x is the number of experience counters you have.
>>43453530
>tasigur is easily going to be 30 dollars in 2-3 years.
Doubt it. Even in the decks that play him, how many copies do they really want? 1? 2? I'd say $20 or $25 at most. Foils will be absolutely ridiculous though.
What colors and commanders would be best for a Voltron deck? For the next three months I was challenged to make a Voltron deck in our group but I honestly never made one.
>>43453093
Pact of negation
Foil
Red elemental blast.
>>43453566
WoW! What A great idea! Let's turn an EDH thread into a custom card thread :D Lemme join!
DarkLord, Warrior of Night and Day
RRWW1
Doublestrike, lifelink, deathtouch, trample
Whenever you get an experience counter gain another experience counter
Creatures you control have "Whenever you get an experience counter gain another experience counter"
Whenever you get an experience counter choose 1
-Put a token into play that's a copy of a creature you control, it gains haste, exile it at the end of turn.
-deal 3 damage to each opponent, this counts as commander damage
-target creature you control gains annihilator 3, infect and indestructible
Untap all creatures and lands you control during each players untap step.
Tap each opponents creatures during the beginning of each upkeep.
7/4
>>43453093
Draining Whelk
>>43453566
Anya 3RW
3/3
Flying
When ~ or another creature nontoken enters the battlefield, you may exile the top card of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play that card.
>>43453693
>>43453566
fuck off.
>>43453566
Whenever a creature etb you may suck your opponent's dick. if you do opponent must pay you x dollar where x is the number of experience counters you have.
fizzles if touched teeth.
>>43453663
>tfw no vigilant double striking qt angel that gives card advantage for killing your enemies and protection when one of your friends dies
>>43453703
4RW
Instants and sorceries you control have life link. Whenever you gain life, ~ deals that much damage to target opponent.
>>43453728
Wow! What a cool idea, once I'm done posting custom shit in a commander thread I'll print that out and build a deck around it then immediately invite everyone I know over for a just-friendly-enough commander game
>>43453751
Opps. Forgot the creature type
-Daemon angel halfkin (that was bullied as a child and swore he'd be better but one day watched his daddy die and must now track down the evil guys to fight them and restore balance)
>>43453631
Just play Rafiq and then tell your group to suck your dick when they bitch about you playing Rafiq.
>>43453630
>tfw I already have two foils I got on prerelease day just from trading
>>43452883
be worthless.
>>43453785
2WR
At the beginning of each end step, if an opponent has taken more than five damage this turn, you may return target permanent card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
>>43453826
At least he's pretty
>Foil never ;_;
>>43453785
Did you really think a magic thread wouldn't descend into shitposting?
>>43453631
Sigarda enchantress/voltron is fun. Prevents a certain amount of durdling.
>>43453850
I imagine every thread he posts in descends into shit posting.
>>43453631
having played a few voltron decks i'd have to say the most fun i had was with this guy, good colors for artifact manipulation and his ability is super fun
>>43453631
rafiq
or that rg giant hexproof dude
>search mono black knights
>disappointing amount
Oh well, I guess Ashes of the Fallen and Conspiracy will have to do for Haakon
>>43453693
May play that card part needs an "if you do.
Otherwise you can play the top card of "your library from the top of your library.
>>43453879
Magic by it's very nature invites shitposting. The amount of ignorance is quite significant; compound that with the sentiment that every generalization or wrong statement is pounced on immediately with a correction and then add that most Magic players are not humble enough to admit they're wrong.
Like, this is how the conversation always goes:
- Post something
- git gud or legitimate advice
- Lash back or claim that they're on a budget
- Shitposting or accusations about being too poor
Consider this - if you're actually on a budget, you are actually asking for shit advice because you can't afford the good advice. The people who see shit advice call it shit advice, and the people who see good advice wonder why even bother helping if the good advice isn't going to be acted upon.
"I'm unhealthy"
"Eat better and get a gym pass"
"Too poor for a gym pass"
"Fuck off"
That's Magic in a nutshell.
>"Suck shit, Green/Red players." The Card
>>43453631
such fun, much wow, great voltron
>>43453566
(red/white hybrid) [so CMC1]
2/2
OR
W
2/2
R: gain haste
this is all i fucking want
>>43454186
Joke's on you, faggot. I'm playing Ragenath and WANT my Elementals to die.
>>43454193
Whoever actually did that to a magic card should be hung
>>43454287
relax buddy, its like a 4 dollar card
>>43454287
Hanged
>>43454287
you mean they should have a big cock?
Other B/G general when? The bug is just goodstuff nonsense, nothing we havent seen before
>>43454139
So what you're saying is that I spent 30$ this month for 24 hour fitness subscription and 400$ for a new EDH deck, a box of BFZ and a few singles for standard. However they are the same thing?
Magic is a game and also a social activity. If you can't see around the first part then you might be incredibly insecure and or autistic. It's like the difference between the NBA and shooting hoops with your bros.
But hey man keep doing you. I'm just looking for a new fun deck to pilot and got no responses because of shitposting and retarded questions about new cards that will never be good.
>>43454287
lurk more
Why are Artifact EDH decks so degenerateamounts of funwith this cool dude? The amount of cheating-into-play and thinning possible with this guy is beautiful.
>>43454287
At least it isn't as fucked up as the My Little Pony Power 9 alters. Those make me want to beat someone to death
B/G face general when? That bug dude is just generic goodstuff, legit boring and nothing we haven't seen before. I just want to be dissapointed by the experience counter nonsense so I can just stop being hopeful.
>>43454404
>4 Siege Rhinos, a card with no value outside of Standard on top of a stack of $20s
Whoa, get out of this guy's way, we got Trump in the thread.
>>43454450
I'm sure they didn't draw on any actual copies of the Power 9, right?Right!?
>>43454450
Now this I need to see.
>>43454477
*and a card with no value
>>43454477
I actually bought my camry with that pile of money. It's not bad.
>>43454493
>>43454495
>>43453983
Now he's a zombie
I wish I could play the format the way it was meant to be played, but everyone in my area is a ONE ON ONE FAGGOT shitlord that fills their decks with 2-card infinite combos. Shit just ain't fun.
>>43452984
Just play a tricolor combo that doesn't have UG in it. The wedge and shard generals are ridiculously more powerful in comparison to the mono and guild generals simply because of the much larger cardpool that opens up to you. Or just wait to see if any of the newly revealed ones from C15 look good to you.
>>43454554
Wipe off your windshield and clean off the hood every once and a while, you barbarian.
Literally slapped this deck together. I'd had the Esper precon from 2013, so I pulled out some staples like Sol Ring and whatnot, but everything else are cards I had laying around.
What recommendations and changes would you make to it? Trying to keep it fairly budget, but honestly only having to buy one instead of four of a card makes me much more willing to buy pricier cards. Still don't want to spend more than 5 bucks or so a card unless it's absolutely grand.
And yes, I'm a degenerate who loves playing UG. It'sfun
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-11-15-kruphix-commander/?cat=cost
>>43454554
Should've bought a civic, way better in grindy games.
>>43453115
Arcane Denial is good because you DON'T lose card advantage compared to a normal counterspell.
>opponent casts haymaker
>you counter it with counterspell
>you at -1 card, guy who got countered at -1 card, everyone else at -0 cards, gaining an advantage over you two
Compared with:
>you counter with Arcane Denial
>you go -0 cards, guy who got countered at +1 card, everyone else at +0 cards
The card disadvantage here is half as big as the one with Counterspell.
Not only that, but the guy who gained the card advantage doesn't draw it that turn, and he just tapped to play a big spell worth countering.
Arcane Denial should be played over Counterspell in all multiplayer EDH decks, unless you rely heavily on your opponents having 0 cards in hand like Scroll Rack and shit I guess.
>>43454586
Are you really bothered thay my 14 year old car is slightly dirty? I hate to break it to you but I've never washed it and there's about 200 bulk commons/uncommons on the back floorboard.
>>43454493
They did. And a few months later, they were desperately trying to sell them at something like half price.
>>43454554
My nigga! I got a 93 Camery. No matter how much shit I put it thru it still runs.
>>43454559
I can't even get mad at this, it's just too ridiculous.
>>43454771
Mines an 01' I bought off a pastor. It had 140k miles on it and I paid 2600.
Unfortunately I do not have such bargain hunting skills when it comes to buying cards.
>>43454139
That is by far the stupidest example I've ever seen on /tg/, and I've been here longer than I care to admit.
Let me fix it (it will still be stupid, but hey, I'm not a miracle worker), to reflect the actual discourse on budget play that goes on in any MTG thread.
>i'm unhealthy guys, but I found this cool plan:
>I'll just jog outside for free, and do some bodyweight stuff with added weights, or use this budget gym option that doesn't have a brand, but does have all the freeweights I could ever want
>FUCK OFF STOP *stop to breath* GETTING FITNESS FOR FREE/CHEAPER THAN I PAID FOR IT. THE ONLY WAY TO GET FIT IS TO USE THIS BRANDED GYM *stop to breath* THAT TURNS YOUR MEMBERSHIP DOLLARS INTO FREE PIZZA ON FRIDAYS
>*brings fungus encrusted inhaler to lips*
>*teleports behind you*
>nothing personnel kid.
In conclusion, chinaman and digital piracy solutions such as cockatrice are the way of the future.
I'm kind of itching to buold new Ezuri. Outside of Sage of Hours, Inkmoth Nexus, Fathom mage, and Blighted Agent. What would be some of your other suggestions for creatures?
>>43454874
Mycoloth.
>>43454874
Edric seems good if you're going wide with little creatures. Get that card advantage.
>>43454845
>2600
Jesus, sounds like a ripoff to me. I drive a 98 Acura TL 3.2 with 150k miles for 1800.
>>43454845
I feel you man. I spend waaaay to much money on cards I don't eve need. Mine cost me nothing becauseMy great grandma got cancer and Died.Still, iv put about 2 grand into my car for repairs. Constantly having problems with the radiator. I should really get a new car but it has way to much sentimental value
>>43454893
Forgot to mention I have almost 300k miles on it
>>43454874
mycoloth, gyre sage, forgotton ancient, deadeye navigator, various clones, and putrefax come to mind. you could be a baller and run thrun too because fuck control players
I feel like WotC designed this set by realizing everyone was tired of over powered and annoying u/g creatures. So they decided to depower it. And then, they went full retard, forgot what they were doing, and depowered everything else too.
I've never been less excited to build a deck for a general, than I have while thinking about my options with the new legends.
Cards from fucking legends inspire me more.
>>43454495
I'm building Purphorous what are all the cards I can run to remove dissipation field or similar trouble permanents? I know there is chaos warp, spine of ish sash, scour from existence, unstable obelisk and lux cannon, is there anything else?
>>43454940
Oblivion Stone, Nevinyrral's Disk, Perilous Vault.
>>43454940
Karn Liberated, and Ugin are the only two other cards that come to mind. Maybe O stone and Nevinyral's Disk.
>>43454940
All is Dust
Ugin
Word of Seizing works for a turn.
>>43454438
I wish I could play decks like this but my playgroup is too whiny.
They get upset at cards such as Elvish Piper or any win con combo.
>>43453663
>Wrong Mana Ordering
>Keyword soup
>Giant ability that can't do anything on it's own.
>Doesn't work the way they want it to work
>Goes Infinite on it's own
>Giant power with low toughness "Drawback"
All your missing is "Unblockable" and something to do with losing 1 life.
>>43454891
I dunno, it drives like a new car. Really well maintained and only wasn't selling because the dude ran a church in the scariest part of the ghetto.
I love the silence inside it, no road noise at all compared to new shitcans.
Also:
>Animar
>Ghave
>Surrak Dragonclaw
Pick my new general
>>43455077
Ghave, so you can go maximum cancer with the new GB legendary.
>>43455077
Dubs say you should appease the father of all creatures, ANIMAR IT IS
>>43455077
Build Animar Control. Winter Orb = Win.
>>43455077
>3 completely uninspiring generals that have been done to death
>>43455132
>Surrak
>Done to death
>>43455132
Surrak really hasn't, but that's mostly because of how boring he is.
>>43455132
>Surrak
>done to death
u fucking wot mate?
There's like, one anon with a Surrak list I've seen bouncing around.
I'm building this sexy black guy. What are the essentials?
>>43455132
You're the winner.
What general do I actually build?
>>43455016
Well, I can somewhat understand them. Some of those artifact combos are ridiculous and turns can turn into Solitaire rounds.
Then again, they could just also run retarded, overpowered shit and be just as strong every once in a while like my group usually does.
>>43453093
Counterflux, dissolve, rewind, dissipate, OG counterspell.
>>43455175
Infinite mana combos. Pick your favorites.
>>43455199
>OG counterspell
lolno. I'd take Cryptic or Faerie Trickery over Counterspell
>>43453125
I'm sad that the deck would still be shit. I think he's better as the secret commander in a B/W/x deck.
>>43455178
Toshiro Umezawa.
>>43455252
Probably just B/W. There's hardly any knights worth tossing in outside B/W.
Seems pretty good
>>43453125
Oh shit. Finally. Also another tool for phage.
>>43455178Hazezon Tamar
>>43454874
Wild Beastmaster
>>43455276
Jesus tap dancing titty christ. Thank you alt wincon for Jeleva!
>>43455276
Past In Flames on steroids? Hell yeah sign me up!
>>43455276
>4 mana cast a spell in your graveyard
>8 mana cast ALL THE SPELLS
Jesus fucking christ this is broken.
>>43453115
Yeah, but you might as well run Counterspell too.
>>43453093
Other than Denial and Counterspell (and other color specific ones like Counterflux) I particularly enjoy Overwhelming Intellect. It's a little more expensive CMC wise but the cards you draw off of it make it a wonderful counterspell. If you don't mind a slightly pricey answer it's pretty fantastic.
>>43453394
I wouldn't run Remand when you can just rune Arcane Denial.
>>43455276
...Why not just give them flashback?
>>43455318
>without paying its mana cost.
>>43455318
"Each of them gains Flashback 0" probably seemed too clunky? I dunno.
>>43455318
Because then you would have to pay for them?
You would also get to choose not to exile shit. This just exiles everything.
>>43455276
Is this legacy playable? This seems stronk
>>43453763
>give her lifelink
>win the game
>>43455336
It's a super-version of Past in Flames, but it also costs 8 all at once. Not likely.
Did anyone ever make anything degenerate with this dandy lad?
I've only managed to build a U/B Modern deck involving shitloads of untap cards to potential trigger him up to 6 times per turn, but doing that with mono-black should be really fucking difficult, or am I missing something?
>>43455276
oh fuck now I really want to build mizzix
>>43455357
There's not a lot of ways in mono-black to tap him without endangering him, and even fewer ways to chain-gun tap and untap him. And the ways that exist, it'd be easier to just make smaller combos that instantly win the game.
>>43455336
8 mana is never gonna happen in Legacy and I don't think there's much you wanna hit back for 4 mana
>>43454913
>>43454874
In the same vein as Mycoloth you might enjoy Verdant Force to get an experience counter each upkeep. Avenger of Zendikar with a lot of lands out means you instantly get way too many experience counters.
>>43454888
Definitely.
>>43455359
Was already building a deck for her, time to rethink wincons. Maybe storm instead of huge X spells.
>>43455252
Gotta have my chameleon colossus!
>>43455175
Elder Silugmar so he can stare at his corpse around a dragon's neck.
>>43455422
por que no los dos.
>>43455435
I'm assuming X is 0 if I cast them with Mastery
>>43455276
Seems hilarious but you better make sure you win on the spot if you overload this shit. I'd love to play this after a big EpEx though.
>>43455422
Please don't do storm. It's the worst, most annoying win condition.
I'm not even speaking competition here. It's just a lot of bullshit to go through, and often the most easily disrupted. With an infinite combo, you demonstrate it once, ask for responses, then win or lose.
With storm, you have to play it out, usually for 10 minutes or so, only to fizzle out some unacceptable portion of the time. It's annoying for everyone.
>>43455405
>Entomb Enter the Infinite -> this -> ???
I'm sure there's some way to combo with it
>>43455452
You assume right.
>>43455276
Cool card but I'm a little disappointed that we're not getting another Replicate spell in these precons. Replicate is a sweet mechanic, they really should use it again.
>>43455276
So Overloaded Mizzix's mastery is 5rrr, and Ezuri's Predation is 5ggg. Vould mean a cycle of eight mana instants or sorceries based on the face commanders
>>43455481
The problem with Replicate is that it's basically slightly-different Multikicker.
>>43455452
it is
but if you're storming off you can either use it normal to get +2 storm or double your storm
or if you're going for big X use it to get a ritual or a draw spell back.
I say run both because off the top of my head there are only 3 storm win cons in UR and it's a versatile enough card that I would run it in either.
>>43455490
I can't wait for the white one to gain me a bunch of life!
>>43455357
i made a deck with him that was basically mono-b voltron/control. use whispersilk cloak to attack without putting him in danger and then get removal from him if he makes it to my next turn. the deck was so-so. Monoblack is good regardless of your commander if you have the right cards, but the deck felt dumb to play so I took it apart.
>>43455509
Anon, almost EVERY mechanic is slightly different kicker/multikicker. That's not a problem with replicate, that's a problem with Kicker/Multikicker. Even Overload is just "Kicker but different".
>>43455514
>>43455452
also neither here nor there but I'm definitely doing UG elfball with Ezuri Clawvv
>>43455276
I really like this in something like Nekusar. Replay one wheel or replay them all, or even something as cheeky as playing a discarded In Garruks Wake for only 4 mana
>>43453358
I would like to imagine so.
>>43453093
Swan song.
Arcane Denial
OG Counterspell
Dissipate (exile clause is strong)
Negate
>>43455564
>Nekusar
>Replay wheels
I hate you.
I'm looking for cards that let me vomit out creatures for free or cheap each turn. Shit like Lurking Predators, Quicksilver Amulet, Wild Pair or Guild Feud.
Basic idea is to get so many fatties out that people run out of doom blades. Then use shit like "target player's lands become creatures for a turn" to stop board wipes. Then just play and cheat big creatures till someone dies
Any card recommendations?
>playing Zedruu
>giving Xenagod player a Steel Golem
Magus of the Wheel
Wheel of Fortune on a stick.
>>43453663
meh, dies to removal.
>>43455514
The thing is Mastery takes the whole yard, on the X idea I'd like to recur them a time or two to keep playing big spells. It's more of a "play stuff to later play big stuff easily" what I had in mind. I really just want to be able to play shit like Volcanic Vision and Clone Legion which I never get to cast reliably in Melek, maybe twincast with Mirari.
>>43455564
Holy crap that would be bonkers. Though the overload could end in a draw with too much wheels ending on all libraries including yours empty.
>>43455602
Speaking of DJ Nekusar and His Wheels of Steel...
>Magus of the Wheel
Ehh
>>43455602
I don't know if I should be disgusted at the concept of Wheel on a stick, or delighted at a new Magus cycle
>>43455516
>implying it's not going to make a boatload of tokens
>>43455602
oh shit another Magus cycle? sign me the fuck up.
>>43455602
Jesus tapdancing christ
>>43455595
Guild Feud, Quicksilver Amulet, Lurking Predators, and Wild Pair might be good.
>>43455602
Just reprint wheel pls
>>43454554
>sun roof
Manlet fucking detected.
>>43455602
Oh wait you need to sacrifice him for the wheel? Meh, and here I was thinking Jace's Archivist had gained a red buddy...
>>43455276
Oh my goodness
>>43455292
I'm too patriotic to play a terrorist.
What sorcery could the green magus have? I can't imagine they'll do something like Magus of the Ramp
>>43455564
Thats a damn fine idea bro.
Hell, I don't run any non-red decks, and I can't see one where this card wouldn't be a great include. Shit like this makes me hopeful about red's future as an actually decent EDH colour
>>43455077
Ghave's great. Broken shit aside, fungus tribal is fun as fuck. Thelon's more stronk, but centralizes the deck a lot, and you miss out on Mycoid Shepherd and Pallid Mycoderm.
Secret tech: Mold Adder. Trust me dude.
>>43455666
Has snapcaster mage taught you nothing?
What red has, blue steals. What blue steals, red gets shitty versions of several blocks later.
>>43455697
Does it have to be a sorcery? Because they could do Magus of theBirthing Pod
>Building Drana, Liberator - Queen of Swamps + Vampire Tribal build
>mfw Necropolis Regent + Drana means 3 turn clock for Commander damage win, let alone the other vampires
>mfw Lily ODR + Retreat to Hagra/Swamp Spells
>mfw Cryptghast + Nirkana Revenant
>mfw "Ahem, Vampires" flavor insta-win Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood
>mfw All these fliers and unblockables
Out of the Big 4 BFZ commanders, she's probably my favourite.
>>43455602
>play mono-red for 3 years. Even when I stop running mono, every deck is red
>crippled by lack of cards. Wheel of Fortune is a shitload of cash
>finally buy WoF
>3 days later WoF on a stick, cheap as shit cuz its in the pre-cons
You know what? I'm goddamn ok with this. Any idea what precon its in, because its an auto-buy now
>>43453631
Sapling of colfenor get a couple ways to become unblock able the sneak through with worldslayer and it's game over
>>43455753
I was gonna say "I hope it's Mizzix" but I don't want it to be Jeleva 2.0 where the precon is double the price it should be because of three cards
>>43455720
Lol, so much this.
When I was starting out at magic I saw copy spells and wheels and went "cool, that must be red's version of counterspells and no-drawbacks mass card draw. What a cool and interesting concept". Then I found out its just shit versions of blue copy and blue wheels, and that a lot of the time, red is just "shitty blue, with haste"
>>43455753
Given this >>43455276 card and how the other red deck is a W/R deck that's probably got a stronger W focus than R, I'd would bet it'd be in the UR one
>>43455745
It's almost certainly going to be a sorcery. The Magi already have a land cycle, an artifact cycle, and an enchantment cycle. My bet is that this is the sorcery cycle.
>>43455720
Yeah that's is just dumb. Why do they keep doing it?
>>43455690
make ruhan then
>>43455745
I figure they'll do sorceries only as the Time Spiral block magus' were cycles of lands, artifacts and enchantments.
>>43454559
Certainly not real. I would need to see an actual picture of the cards to believe someone would ruin these cards like so. I am going to just assume this is photoshop.
So I made a token-based Ezuri U/G deck earlier today that almost entirely focuses on just absolutely flooding yourself with Experience Counters through the use of tokens.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ezuri-2-counter-boogaloo/
>>43455753
Wheel of fortune is like 15-20$. How is that a shit ton of cash?
>>43455276
Well, I know what I'm buying.
>>43455357
He is great in my Phenax, God of Deception deck.
That's about it.
>>43455793
The Rose Knows.
>>43455798
I'm gonna play green land destruction with jolrael.
No one can stop me now.
So what does everyone thinks will be the other Magus in the sorcery cycle? My pipe dream/guess
Black gets Magus of Damnation
White gets Magus of Armageddon
Green gets Magus of No fucking clue
Blue gets Magus of Time Walk
>>43455858
Its funny cause the guy that got them said that he would never sell them so the value didn't matter to him, but I saw it at a dealer table at a gp a couple years ago.
>>43455894
No way in almighty fuck will blue get "Time Walk: The Guy". Too easy to abuse.
>>43455894
green gets Magus of the Desert Twister
>>43455697
Magus of Channel
Magus of Regrowth
Magus of Plow Under
Magus of Overrun
Magus of land grant
Magus of glimpse of nature
Magus of Eureka (I'd cum rainbows)
Magus of life from the loam
Those are a few of the most iconic green sorceries and one I thought would be funny.
>>43455858
Someone needs to murder this person.
>>43455901
They've printed time walk: the [blank] a bunch of times.they usually just suck or get banned though
>>43455931
>>43455911
>>43455910
>>43455901
>>43455894
Magus of the Treasure Cruise.
>>43455816
>>43455858
>>43455920
Even better, the guy tried to sell them after people called him a retard for ruining their value with his shit alters and responded something along the line of "I'll never sell these cards so it doesn't matter what other people value them at, I'm doing this for myself".
>>43455920
Honestly, I wouldn't even be THAT angry if it were at least a good alter. But they paid someone actual money to do that amateur-level bullshit to cards worth several thousand dollars. That's like buying a brand new car and then having the kid next door go at it with a can of Rustoleum as a 'paint job'
>>43455894
magus of eureka?
>>43455947
Oh yeah, and that's several ruined Guru lands too.
>>43455357
I'd consider thornbite staff. Mono black shouldn't be finding it hard to sac it. Not infinite but you should be able to get a lot more out of him that 6/turn with thornbite on him.
>>43455967
>>43455947
Woops, ruined alpha/beta duals to look like guru lands*
>>43455720
>He thinks windfall is better than wheel of fortune
>>43452650
>Only to your hand
Its decidedly meh. A staple for sure but its very ehhh.
>>43455357
Some idea's
Krovikan plague, Gallows at willow hill, Cryptic gateway, Honor worn Shaku and the powerhouse of the deck Sands of time.
>>43455947
Ponyfags are pretty much the most beta of beta, so I don't think it would be hard to simply rip these up in front of him and then walk away. I bet the degenerate wouldn't even say a word.
>>43455914
>>43455965
I'd be ok with Eureka on a stick that sacs itself, powerful but with huge potential to backfire especially in edh.
>>43455947
By the way, if those cards weren't covered in ponies, the top 4 cards alone would be worth about that full 12k.
>>43455276
I will be purchasing the UR deck
>>43452883
>Only a 4/4
I would have liked it if it was a 5/5.
>>43456005
Oh, sorry that the card didn't read "T, sac: put your commander onto the battlefield for fucking free".
>>43456018
Same, was deciding between GB and UR, but this card seals the deal unless they put something truly outrageous in the GB deck.
>>43455911
Greens will be some insane card advantage creature because green doesn't already have enough of those and fuck black
>>43456016
The Black Lotus itself would be worth about those $12k
>>43456040
I love spellslinging and this deck is looking to be a perfect base for it. I've never actually done much with GB
>>43455276
This is when shit gets rough.
I have an all foil EDH deck.
That deck REALLY wants to run this card.I guess I'll have to get it altered. Any suggestions?
>>43456003
>he thinks I was talking about windfall.
Underaged kids get out pls.though windfall is better than reforge the soul
>>43455947
What's that card in the bottom left?
>>43456058
>>43456040
>>43456018
I'm frustrated because this is the first U/R Commander I've actually been interested in, but I guarantee that this deck is gonna be the most popular one, and it's gonna flood my meta.
>>43455276
How often does ice really come up in magic to necessitate having so much of it in the art for this?
>>43455602
Literal translation?
>>43456034
You have to sac it. That in of itself makes it a nono to me.
>>43456058
Yeah I've wanted to do a spellslinging deck too but never cared much for Melek (plus someone else in my group plays him), so was happy to see Mizzix.
>>43455858
>>43455947
You ever see something that just makes you want to murk a motherfucker
>>43456092
Time Vault, I think.
>>43455947
There exist professional art restorers.
Wouldn't they be able to remove the pony alters from the cards?
I'm sure they'd be able to do it without too much damage to the card and for far less than it would take to buy them new.
>>43456092
Time Vault, basically the easiest infinite combo in vintage.
>>43456095
>not expecting UR to be the most popular
It is by far the most popular guild, I have no doubt that even if turned out to be the worst it'd be the most in demand.
>>43456106
...so you wanted a land that just read "T: Put your commander onto the battlefield from the command zone". Yeah, okay. Are you also frustrated that Lightning Bolt costs R instead of 0, doesn't have Split Second, and only does 3 damage instead of 4000?
>>43456104
It's not ice, it's the salt from the other players.
I love the card. I hate the wording.
>>43456123
Highly unlikely they'd be able to remove the pony alters without severely damaging the underlying card, depending on what was used. I know Eric Klug does a lot of "restoration" alters- he'd either cover the ponies up, or just scrape them off and paint over everything but the Mox itself.
>>43456128
No something like
X T: Put your commander onto the battlefield from the command zone. Where X is the converted mana cost of your commander.
>>43456104
1R, Tap, Sacrifice Magus of the Wheel: Each player discards his or her hand, then draws seven cards.
>>43456104
There is an entire card type dedicated to snow
>>43456005
>>43456106
You play Derevi don't you
>>43456133
It's worded that way specifically so it'll buff your opponent's Commanders if you steal them. It could have just been "Your Commander gets +2/+2 and has Indestructible", I suppose.
>>43456163
Nope.
>>43456157
So you want a land that makes every commander into a better version of Derevi.
>>43456108
I have a Shu Yun that goes full wizardmode, drops spells and dumps out tokens, but I might have to trim it and mash it together with Mizzix. There's not much white in there anyway
>>43456161
Yes, I know that, but I mean it dosnt come up often outside of snow covered lands and ice age. It certainly dosnt show up in any recent sets that I can think of. I didn't mean there wasnt cold represented in magic, it's just not the first thing you think of.
>>43456188
Yes.
>>43456174
>Karn deck
>Karona pillowfort
>Memeling the Pilgrim
>My Little Furry
>ANGEL TRIBEL LOL (but not Kaalia, too mainstream :^) )
>LOOK AT MY SHINY EXPENSIVE CARD
>5 color deck with a colorless commander
Yeah, you sound like the kind of idiot that would want Better Derevi as a colorless land.