YO /tg/ WHATS A GOOD SYSTEM TO PLAY WEABOO ADVENTURES LIKE SLAYERS / CHAIKA / OR THAT NEW ANIME ABOUT DUNGEONS WITH THE LOLI WITH BIG TITS OR GAMES LIKE ETRYAN ODISSEY/MONSTER HUNTER/TALES OR NOVELS LIKE MUSHOKU TENSEI/ SHIELDBRO / KONJIKI WORDMASTER.
DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS 4TH EDITION
EVERYONE GETS NEAT ABILITIES. EVERYONE!
YOU HAVE TO PLAY ON A GRID, SO GO CRAZY LIKE YOU WERE IN DISGAE OR FINAL FANTASY TACTICS OR SUPER ROBOT WARS
BESM
BIG EYES SMALL MOUTH
SHIT'S
LITERALLY
ANIME
>>39703165
>>39703188
ILL CHECK THEM OUT
BUT STILL; ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS?, ANYONE KNOWS IF ANIMA IS GOOD OR NOT?
WANT STUFF LIKE USING GUNS LIKE VASH AND DANTE, CASTING MAGIC LIKE.: ZAP MUTHAFUCKA; USING BLADES BEING CRAAAAAZYYYYY AS FUCK, TRANSFORMING INTO BEASTS, HAVING CRAZYY POWEERS MAAAN
>>39703254
13th age is about playing big deal adventuring weirdos.
>>39703343
SPEAK UP NIGGA
I CAN'T HEAR YOU
WOW SHIT NIGGA MY BAD I DON'T NEED A FUCKIN' TRIP HERE WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT.
FUCK THESE WAIT TIMES THOUGH.
>>39703403
I THINK HE SAID YOU SHOULD TRY OUT 13TH AGE!
LIKE YOU CAN GIVE YOUR CHARACTERS THEIR ONE UNIQUE THING THAT ONLY THEY HAVE AND NOBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD HAS NIGGA IT'S PRETTY SWEET
BUT I DUNNO ABOUT THAT OTHER SHIT NIGGA, IT'S LIKE A D20 THING.
ALSO I DUNNO ABOUT ANIMA BUT IT LOOKS PRETTY SWEET SO MAYBE CHECK IT OUT!
MaidRPG
>>39703132
YO THERE'S THIS SHIT CALLED MAKE YOU KINGDOM, IT'S SOME WEEABOO SHIT SPELLED LIKE MAKEYUU KINGDOM 'CAUSE THOSE CHINKS CAN'T SPELL RIGHT IN ENGLISH, ALSO CHECK OUT MYTHENDER IT'S PRETTY SWEET
My fucking ears. Wtf is wrong with you people?
>>39704004
HAVE ANY OF YOU GUYS TRIED TO JOJO IN MAID RPG? FUCKING GLORIOUS M8!
>>39703254
DOUBLE CROSS MIGHT BE YOUR SPEED NIGGA
I AM ENJOYING THIS THREAD !)?!)
>>39703165
YO FUCK 4TH FOR NOW, TRY 5TH. SUPER SIMPLISTIC, WAY MORE ABILITY TO DO ROLEPLAY AT HIGH SPEED WITH FAST BATTLES.
70 YEAR OLD BARBARIAN IS WRECKING AS A DEMON LOVER. CAN'T GET MORE ANIME THEN OLD BADASS PERVERT DEMON LOVER.
>but marche i can walk here
GET BACK IN YOUR GOD DAMN CHAIR LITTLE BROTHER WE'RE GOING THE FUCK HOMEOther than the awful protagonist motivation FFTA is a pretty good game... It's my go to for trips and shit
WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, IS THERE A SYSTEM THAT EMULATES THE FF JOB SYSTEM OR SHOULD I MAKE A HOMEBREW ?
>>39705012
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY JOB SYSTEM
THERE ARE FINAL FANTASY RPGs BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY JUST TREAT JOBS AS CLASSES SO THERE'S NO SUBCLASSING OR WHATEVER JOB SWAPPING OR WHATEVER
MOTHERFUCKING STAR WARS IN SAVAGE WORLDS BITCHES
SO GOD DAMN CINEMATIC
>Note: Individual games may or may not include bitches.
>>39704835
YO I AM CURRENTLY RUNNING TWO 5E CAMPAIGNS AND THAT SHIT IS AMAZING! AWESOME SYSTEM FOR TELLING AWESOME STORIES!
HOWEVER, 5E HAS BORING AS FUCK MONSTERS. THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL PALLET SWAPS OF BEARS AND BANDITS. MOST CREATURES CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE INTERESTING THAN ''TWO ATTACKS AT X TO HIT FOR X DAMAGE''.
AND THAT'S WHERE 4E COMES IN! AWESOME TACTICAL COMBATS WITH INTERESTING MONSTERS!
>>39703132
SOMEONE MADE A MONSTER HUNTER SUPPLEMENT FOR D&D 5E.
>>39703451
ANIMA CHARACTER CREATION TAKES A YEAR
EVERYTHING IS FINE!
>>39703132
>LOLI WITH BIG TITS
>>39703254
LEGIT IF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS CRAZY ABILITIES YOU CAN REFLUFF AS LITERALLY ANYTHING RIGHT ON THE FLY AND EVERYONE HAVING DIFFERENT KINDSA CRAZY SHIT BUT IN THE STYLE OF A TBS LIKE DISGAEA OR FFT, 4E DnD is legitimately one of the best games out there. No other game handles tactical turn-based combat quite so well, and the aesthetics are all so bare-bones you can replace them with basically anything you want.
>>39705012
THE MALIFAUX RPG, THROUGH THE BREACH, HAS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO A JOB SYSTEM, BUT IT'S NOT AS DEFINED AND RESTRICTIVE. IF YOU COUNT ADVANCED OR ALTERNATE PATHS, BOTH L5R AND FIRST EDITION DARK HERESY HAVE A SORT OF JOB-SYSTEM THING GOING ON. IT'S NOT A THING YOU'RE LIKELY TO FIND IN MANY TABLE TOP GAMES, TO BE HONEST.
WARHAMMER FANTASY OF ALL EDITIONS, BUT ESPECIALLY 3RD, IS PROBABLY YOUR BEST BET, AND THAT HAS ALSO HAS LOTS OF WONKY ABILITIES, ALBEIT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LOW KEY THAN WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR.
>>39706187
>>39705132
BY JOB SYSTEM I MEAN HOW YOU CAN SWITCH CLASSES AND SHIT
>>39703254
ANIMA IS GOOD, BUT THE RULES ARE KIND OF A TRAINWRECK
>>39704889
He was a hero
>>39704889MARCHE. WAS. RIGHT.
>>39708001
YO YOU SHOULD TOTALLY TRY FFd6
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?173958-Final-Fantasy-d6-%28Complete-System%29
ITS WEEABOO AS FUCK AND YOU CAN CHANGE JOBS
CHANGING JOBS REQUIRES THIS RESOURCE CALLED DESTINY THAT YOU GET FOR KILLING BOSSES AND ROLEPLAYING AND SHIT SO ITS NOT REALLY ON THE FLY LIKE FF TACTICS BUT ITS STILL PRETTY NEAT
>>39703132
WHY DO WE KEEP HAVING THIS THREAD.
THE ANSWER IS, AS THE LAST TIME, ANIMA.
>>39706141
NOT THE GAME FAULT YOU'RE INDECISIVE.
>>39703132GURPS
>>39703132
>ALSHARD
>ARIANHROD (ARIANRHOD? I FORGET HOW TO SPELL IT)
>LIKE, ANY OTHER FANTASY TTRPG MADE BY FEAR
>SWORD WORLD
TAKE YOUR PICK, OP, BUT YOU'D BETTER KNOW MOONSPEAK BECAUSE THESE GAMES HAVEN'T BEEN TRANSLATED (EXCEPT MOST OF THE IMPORTANT BITS OF SWORD WORLD)
BESM
SLAYERS d20
ANIMA BEYOND FANTASY
GURPS
OVA
FINAL FANTASY D6
FATE
WHAT'S THAT GAME WITH LIKE THE INSECT DUDES AND THE ROBOT SAMURAI AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DIE YOU GET A MASSIVE POWER UP
>>39710772
SOUNDS LIKE SHADOWRUN TO ME!
IF BY "DECIDE TO DIE" YOU MEAN SHOOT UP ALL THE DRUGS.
>>39710791
NO IT'S LIKE SOME VIETNAMESE STONECARVING SHIT
>>39710772
DO YOU MEAN TENRA BANSHO ZERO? BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE TENRA BANSHO ZERO, WHICH IS MEGA ANIME.
>>39704889
Marche was right. That kid's paraplegia does not justify keeping a smaller world where most people were turned into unthinking monsters to be rebirthed and slain under the whimsical rule of a child tyrant.
![tenra-full[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zohUFNz.jpg "tenra-full[1].jpg")
>>39710772
I HAVE ZERO CLUE WHAT YOU MEAN FROM THAT DESCRIPTION, BUT IT MAY BE TENRA BANSHOU ZERO
>INSECT DUDES
THERE'S A CLASS IN THIS FUCKING GAME DEVOTED TO INCUBATING LOVECRAFTIAN-TIER INSECTS AND SHIT IN YOUR GUTS SO YOU CAN FORM A SYMBIOSIS WITH THEM AND DO CRAZY SHIT. IT'S SOME BODY HORROR TYPE FUCKERY GOING ON HERE MAN
ALSO THERE ARE ROBOTS WHO CAN HAVE KATANAS, ALTHOUGH THE WORD "SAMURAI" IS RESERVED MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE DUDES WHO PUT THESE SPECIAL GEMS IN THEIR BODY, LIKE HUNDREDS OF THEM, SO THEY CAN GET MORE POWERFUL. IT'S LIKE IF CLOUD STRIFE DECIDED TO GET SURGERY AND PUT MATERIA IN HIS SKULL WHICH LET HIM PUMP HIS BODY FULL OF MAGIC TO GET STEROIDS
AS FOR "DECIDING TO DIE," WELL IN TBZ YOU RAW CAN'T DIE UNLESS YOU CHECK A DEATH BOX. SEE, THE SYSTEM USES A COMBINATION OF HP AND WOUNDS FOR TRACKING DAMAGE TO A PLAYER. HP BASICALLY FUNCTIONS IN THAT WHOLE HANDWAVEY LUCK/MEAT/GRIT'NGUTS POINTS METHOD, WHILE WOUND BOXES GET TICKED WHICH FORM MORE LASTING WOUNDS BUT GIVE YOU POWER UPS. IF YOU CHECK YOUR DEATH BOX, YOU GAIN A TON OF POWER, BUT YOU IRRECOVERABLY DIE IF YOUR HP HITS ZERO, WHEREAS OTHERWISE YOU'D JUST BE KNOCKED OUT
IT'S KIND OF AN AMAZING SYSTEM
>>39704835
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH 5TH EDITION BUT IT DOESN'T HANDLE WEEABOO ADVENTURES VERY WELL, EVEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS USING A BIG-ASS WEAPON ISN'T CURRENTLY SUPPORTED
CAN#T WE JUST TURN OFF THE CAPSLOCK?
>>39711023
REAL MEN USE SHIFT FAGGOT
>>39711007
I DISAGREE THAT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, BUT THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR A DIFFERENT THREAD, AND YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT IT IS INCAPABLE OF HANDLING THE REQUESTED GENRES.
>>39711023
YOU ARE CLEARLY USING SHIFT SO I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE FOOLING.
IF YOU WANT ANIME JUST USE ANIMA
OR EXALTED
OR IF YOU WANT ROBOTS USE BCG OR GGG
OR IF YOU WANT DBZ SHIT THEN YOU CAN USE THAT ONE HOMEBREW I SAW YESTERDAY I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE NAME OF
OR JUST PLAY FREEFORM SINCE ANIME RARELY OBEYS RULES
IF YOU LOOKIN' FOR WEABOO FIGHTAN MAGIC THEN ANIMA: BEYOND FANTASY IS YO FUCKING DEAL NIGGA. YOU WANNA BE A SUPER SAIYAN? GOT'CHU COVERED BRUH. YOU WANNA MAHOU SHOUJO UP IN THIS BITCH? NIGGA WE GOOD. YOU WANNA SWING AROUND A 70LB SWORD WHILE YOU FLASH STEP THROUGH YOUR ENEMIES? CHI BOOK. READ THEY SHIT. YOU WANT TO THROW A BUNCH OF KATANAS INTO THE AIR AND FIGHT BY THROWING THEM AWAY AND GRABBING THEM AS THEY FALL? THERE IS A FUCKING FIGHTING MODULE FOR THAT, I KID YOU NOT. WHATS THAT? FANTYS ISNT YOUR THING, WELL BITCH ANIMA DOES SCIFI TOO. YOU CAN PUNCH OUT GODZILLA IN YOUR 500 FOOT TALL REALITY BENDING ROBOT POWERED BY PURE HOT BLOODED FURY, AND ANIMA WILL NUMERICALLY QUANTIFY JUST HOW FUCKING STYLIN' YOU LOOK WHILE YOU DO IT.THAT SHIT IS A FUCKING BASIC SKILL BRUH, LOOK IT UP
WELL SHIT, NIGGER, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WAITING FOR? GO PLAY ANIMA AND PUNCH GOD IN THE FACE WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP OR SOME SHIT.
I guess you could try Fate?
YOU WANNA BE THE LITTLE GIRL?
YOU WANNA BE THE LITTLE GIRL!
PLAY MAGICAL BURST
>>39710872
THAT'S IT.
>>39711023
THIS THREAD IS IN HONOR OF THE MEMORY OF MR. RAGE
>>39708021
THAT'S CALLED NOT BEING GOOD, ANON
FOR THOSE SERIES WITH THE CRAZY DUNGEON STUFF YOU COULD USE X-CRAWL.
WHICH IS A GAMING SYSTEM BASED ON EXTREME SPORTS MURDERHOBO'ING BUT COULD EASILY BE USED AS DUNGEON DI WA WHATEVER THE FUCK OR .HACK ETC
>>39712020
>In Xcrawl, the players are superstar athletes taking their chances in a live-on-pay-per-view death sport. It’s a modern-day world with a fantasy twist, and the game is simple: the Dungeon Judge, or DJ, creates an artificial dungeon under controlled – but lethal – conditions. He designs the maze, and stocks it with monsters, secret doors, magical traps, treasure and prizes. The players must go through the dungeon and fulfill whatever conditions the DJ puts forth in order to win.
>The Dungeon Judge, or DJ
I have never gotten more interested in a game purely based off of its elevator pitch and its phraseology than this
Please don't let this just be a matter of "we don't want to fight WoTC's lawyers so we can call it Dungeon Master so you're a DJ instead"
ANYONE WHO SUGGESTS ANY KIND OF DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS FOR ANIME HIJINKS SHOULD PROBABLY EXPAND THEIR HORIZONS AND STOP FELLATING WOTC'S STAFF.
ANIMA BEYOND FANTASY IS UNEQUIVOCALLY THE BEST OPTION FOR HIGH POWERED SHONEN HIJINKS. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A TECHNICIAN PUNCHING LASER BEAMS AND EXPLODING MOUNTAINS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU.
BRO IT UP WITH YOUR MAGIC BRO-SWORD.
>>39712166
DJs exist in-universe and have established styles and work major events. I'm not totally crazy about XCrawl's 'fantasy modern world with America as a giant dystopian Rome-equivalent' background, but I have to admit that their aesthetic is incredibly on fucking point.
Also, that there should really be a team sponsored by Tiamat Tiamat Tiamat Tiamat and Tiamat, the last word in Lawful Evil representation.
>>39712213
> X-Crawl is a complete role playing game published under the 3.5 OGL rules. The following adventures are available to expand your game - click on a cover to learn more:
>3.5 OGL
FUCK
PLEASE TELL ME THIS ISN'T AS AWFUL AS IT SOUNDS
>>39712213
>Tiamat Tiamat Tiamat Tiamat and Tiamat
TIAMATS HEADS SHOULD HAVE DIFFERENT NAMES. ALSO IS IN AN ANIME RELATED TWIST TIAMAT IS AN ANAGRAM FOR TATAMI
>>39703132
>WHATS A GOOD SYSTEM TO [EMULATE MEDIA]
The standard answer here, and it holds true just fine, is FATE.
>>39712381
THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF X-CRAWL CAME OUT FOREVER A FUCKING GO, LIKE RIGHT WHEN THE OGL LICENSE SHIT WENT DOWN IN 2001.
THE CURRENT VERSION IS MAXIMUM X-CRAWL WHICH CAME OUT LAST YEAR AND IS PATHFINDER COMPATIBLE.
>>39712509
>PATHFINDER COMPATIBLE
SO IT'S EXACTLY AS AWFUL AS IT SOUNDS
GODDAMNIT. FUCK IT, MAYBE I'LL READ IT ANYWAY IF ONLY FOR THE NOVELTY
>>39711883
MAGICAL BURST IS GREAT AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE GAMES BUT NOT REALLY WHAT OP IS ASKING FOR
ALSO IT TENDS TO BE MOST FUN WHEN YOU DON"T REALLY USE THE RULES BUT JUST FREEFORM ROLEPLAY AS CUTE GIRLS, BATTLES AREN"T THAT FUN AND IT MOSTLY RELIES ON A GOOD GM OR PLAYERS TO KEEP THINGS INTERESTING
SO REALLY WHAT MAKES IT GOOD IS THE PREMISE AND NARRATIVE FRAMEWORK (WHICH IS HEAVILY SUPPLMENTED BY THE RANDOM TABLES) MORE THAN ANYTHING
>>39712539
ITS NOVELTY AS FUCK.
>>39712213
>XCrawl's 'fantasy modern world with America as a giant dystopian Rome-equivalent' background
So, it's just a fantasy modern world?
>>39712597
>FREEFORM ROLEPLAY AS CUTE GIRLS
AW YEAH MAGICAL YURI TEA PARTIES
>>39712656
OR HOW ABOUT SHOPPING AND CLUB ACTIVITIES AND SLEEPOVERS AND DAMMIT GUYS MY CHARACTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STRAIGHT
LOUD NOISES
![[DISASTER]_1.png](https://i.imgur.com/p6NqYIW.png "[DISASTER]_1.png")
>>39712597
>MAGICAL BURST IS GREAT AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE GAMES
>IT TENDS TO BE MOST FUN WHEN YOU DON'T REALLY USE THE RULES BUT JUST FREEFORM ROLEPLAY
>TFW ENJOY GOOD RULES IN A GAME
>TFW WILL LITERALLY NEVER GET A MAGICAL GIRL THEMED GAME DEVOID OF SC/U/M THAT USES A GOOD SYSTEM
>>39712704
THE SYSTEM ISN'T SHIT OR ANYTHING AND THE UPCOMING REVISION LOOKS LIKE IT"S GONNA BE GREAT, REALLY STREAMLINE ROUTINE (NON-BOSS) COMBAT WHICH WAS THE MAIN PROBLEM, AND ALSO MAKE THE STATS MORE COHERENT
THE THING IS, IF YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME ABOUT LITTLE GIRLS CHANCES ARE A LOT OF WHAT YOU"RE LOOKING FOR IS BEING CUTE AND RULES AREN'T CUTE
>>39712704
THE SYSTEM ISN'T TERRIBLE AND IT'S ALSO NOT FINAL AND GETS BETTER WITH EVERY DRAFT. YOU'RE NEVER GONNA ESCAPE THE /u/ THOUGH.
>>39712704
>DEVOID OF SC/U/M
WHY ARE YOU EVEN PLAYING A GAME ABOUT MAGICAL GIRLS THEN, YURI UNDERTONES ARE IN ALMOST ALL THE SOURCE MATERIAL
>>39712777
>>39712802
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU FAGS I JUST QUOTED BUT YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID THE GAME IS BEST WHEN YOU IGNORED ALL THE RULES OF THE GAME
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE UP ON YOUR SYSTEM DEFINITIONS OR NOT BUT WHEN GAMES (SETS OF RULES) ARE BETTER PLAYED WITHOUT THE GAME PART (BECAUSE THE RULES SUCK) THEN THAT MEANS THE SYSTEM IS SHIT
>>39703132
>loli with big tits
Oppai loli is disgusting. Flat chest is best.
>>39712826
ONLY BECAUSE SC/U/M ARE INCAPABLE OF REALIZING THAT PLATONIC FRIENDSHIPS EXIST
>>39712826
EXCEPT NO FA/tg/u/Y CAN ACTUALLY ROLEPLAY "UNDERTONES" THEY JUST PLAY GROSS LEWD LESBIANS THAT MAKE BLATANT SEXUAL REFERENCE ALL THE TIME
>>39710899
Ignoring the other games for a minute, by trying to return the world to normal he would also be killing all the people of Ivalice. It would be like killing someone to bring someone else back to life. Marche had no right to make that call.
>>39712839
THE REASON THAT THE GAME IS BEST WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING THE RULES DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT ON THE QUALITY OF THE RULES. THERE AREN'T REALLY RULES FOR JUST PRETENDING TO BE CUTE GIRLS TOGETHER AND HAVING A COZY TIME (ASIDE FROM A RELATIONSHIP STRENGTH NUMBER) BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A MECHANICAL ENDEAVOR. BUT THAT PART OF THE GAME TENDS TO BE MORE FUN THAN FIGHTING YOUMA, WHICH IS WHEN YOU USE MECHANICS THE MOST HEAVILY, AND THE MECHANICS ARE PERFECTLY SERVICEABLE IN THAT SITUATION BUT IT'S JUST NOT REALLY WHAT MOST PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME FOR.
>>39712947
THE PEOPLE WERE MADE FROM PEOPLE IN THE REAL WORLD ANYWAY.
>>39712986
>SERVICEABLE
>NOT FUN, ENJOYABLE, ENGAGING
>SERVICEABLE
>'OH BUT THAT'S OKAY, IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT MOST PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME FOR'
YOU KNOW HOW I CAN TELL YOU'RE BULLSHITTING YOURSELF?
>>39712986
SORCERY USES MECHANICS TOO THOUGH AND THAT'S PRETTY FUN. PART OF WHY I LIKE THE GAME IS THE MAGIC SYSTEM.
>>39713032
I'M TELLING IT TO YOU STRAIGHT MAN, THAT'S HOW IT IS.
>>39713067
AND I THINK YOU DRANK THE KOOLAID BECAUSE EVERY PART OF YOUR PHRASEOLOGY SUGGESTS THAT YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM IS SHIT, YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO ADMIT IT BECAUSE YOU ASSOCIATE IT WITH THE FUN TIMES YOU'VE HAD, LIKELY WITH THAT OTHER FAG POSTING IN THIS THREAD
>>39713043
YEAH BUT IT'S SO RULES-LIGHT THAT IT BARELY COUNTS. LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR POWER(S) AND TALENT(S) BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY USE IT IN-GAME YOU JUST CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND USE LITERALLY ONE DIE ROLL TO DO IT, AND THE GM CONSULTS A TABLE AND MAKES SOME DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS. LIKE MAYBE YOU CONSULT THE TABLE TOO AND DECIDE HOW MUCH OC TO BURN BUT IT'S STILL PRETTY DAMN SIMPLE FOR A MAGIC SYSTEM.
>>39713087
SHIT SON, I ENJOY THE HELL OUT OF MAGICAL BURST. COMBAT AIN'T THE BEST, BUT I HAVE FUN WITH A BUNCH OF GOOD BUDDIES. GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME
>>39713032
>>39713087
RIGHT NOW COMBAT IS TEDIOUS AND UNFUN IF YOU DO IT TOO MUCH, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S DESIGNED FOR SHOWPIECE BOSS FIGHTS. AND ALSO THE GM COULD USE SOME MORE PRESENTED OPTIONS FOR DYNAMIC YOUMA CREATION. BUT THOSE ARE PERFECTLY REASONABLE SORTS OF PROBLEMS FOR A PRE-RELEASE DRAFT GAME TO HAVE. ALL SORTS OF OTHER MECHANICS IN THE GAME ARE FUN INCLUDING THE BASIC DICE SYSTEM AND OVERCHARGE AND FALLOUT WHICH ARE PRETTY CENTRAL TO THE WHOLE THING.
>>39713167
>>39713148
COMBAT IS A PRETTY FUCKING FUNDAMENTAL PART OF A GAME TOO THOUGH. IF THE SYSTEM IS FUCKED THE WHOLE THING IS FUCKED
>>39713284
IT'S ONLY AS FUNDAMENTAL AS YOU MAKE IT, ESPECIALLY IN MAGICAL BURST, BUT EWEN (THE DEVELOPER) IS MIXING IN THE MUCH LIGHTER COMBAT RULES FROM MAGICAL FURY AND THEY'RE QUITE GOOD, SO IT SHOULD BE FINE WHENEVER FIFTH DRAFT IS OUT
>>39713014
THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THE PEOPLE OF IVALICE'S RIGHT TO LIFE OR MAKE THEIR LIVES LESS VALUABLE THAN THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE THEM.
>>39704889
THAT SHOE LOOKS LIKE A PENIS.
>>39712391
COME ON THOUGH
IT'S FUN AS FUCK TO SAY
THE TRICK IS TO DELIVER IT AT MAX SPEED UNTIL IT ALL KIND OF BLENDS TOGETHER.
'I'M THE NEW PARTNER AT TIAMAT TIAMAT TIAMAT TIAMAT AND TIAMAT. NOW IT'S TIAMAT TIAMAT TIAMAT TIAMAT TIAMAT AND FINCH'
>>39712381
YOU COULD PROBABLY CONVERT IT TO OTHER SYSTEMS WITHOUT TOO MUCH TROUBLE, SINCE IT DOESN'T DEVIATE TOO HEAVILY FROM 3.5'S BASIC IDEAS EXCEPT FOR SOME PRETTY SYSTEM-AGNOSTIC CONCEPTS SUPPORTING THINGS LIKE SPONSORSHIP, SIGNATURE MOVES, AND OTHER ASPECTS OF SHOWMANSHIP IN A DUNGEON CRAWLING WORLD.
Can you guys keep it down? I'm trying to sleep.
>>39703132
ISN'T MOST OF JAPANESES FANTASY ANIME BASED DIRECTLY OFF OF DND?
JUST RUN A REALLY GAMEY CAMPAIGN
>>39704889
I liked the writing in FFTA. Making so many people argue over whether the protagonist was a hero or a villain is really hard to pull off.
My big beef with FFTA was the laws system. Such. A. Pain. FFTA2 fixed most of the problems with it.
>>39712843
HESTIA ISN'T REALLY OPPAI LOLI
SHE'S GOT OPPAI BUT SHE ISN'T QUITE YOUTHFUL ENOUGH TO BE LOLI
>>39703132
SLAYERS IS BASICALLY AD&D 2E: THE ANIMATION
IF YOU WANT SLAYERS PLAY THAT
>>39714732
HESTIA IS FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH OTAKU BAIT, AND SHIT EVEN IF SHE ISN'T OPPAI LOLI
>>39714760
I NEVER DENIED EITHER OF THOSE THINGS
OP HERE YO; SO I'VE BEEN CHECKING YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
DND4: PRETTY COOL AND I KINDA KNOW HOW TO RUN IT SINCE I PLAY 5e BUT I DONT THINK ITS GONNA WORK THAT GOOD WITH WHAT I HAVE PLANNED; KINDA WANT TO REPLACE CLERIC AND PALADIN FOR HEALER AND KNIGHT
BESM: NIGGA THIS AINT THAT COOL AS I THOUGH BUT I GUESS IT WORKS FOR OTHER STUFF
ANIMA: I FUCKING LOVE THE SPELLBOOK, BUT MAN; CHARACTER CREATION AND THE RULES LOOK REALLY COMPLICATED; OR MAYBE IS JUST THE BIG NUMBERS AND LOTS OF THINGS WITH NAMES
ALSO; IM TRYING TO RECREATE THAT FEELING OF JAPANESE DUNGEON CRAWLERS, MAGIC; CRAZY ATTACKS AND SHIT.I DONT LIKE MECHA NOR DRAGON BALL Z STUFF! SO I GUESS BESM DOENST WORK THAT GOOD!
>>39714815
>KINDA WANT TO REPLACE CLERIC AND PALADIN FOR HEALER AND KNIGHT
KNIGHT IS AN EXISTING CLASS IN 4E, OR YOU COULD JUST RENAME BOTH.
>>39714815
ANIMA'S BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE LACK OF ORGANIZATION AND POOR TRANSLATION
>>39703132
Maid.
And you better have a brick on your dick, which was on the shift key for god knows why, as an explanation for why you are in all caps.
>>39705012
WHY NOT JUST WRITE DOWN THE STATS FROM THE GAME AND MAKE A SYSTEM BASED ON IT? THERE SHOULD BE SPREADSHEETS ON GAMEFAQS FOR IT, JUST MAKE A LIST OVER WHAT EACH CLASS GAINS IN STATS WHEN THEY LEVEL. I USED TO FREQUENT A FFTA RP FORUM WHERE WE DID THAT.
GOD THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO NOW.
>>39714850
I ACTUALLY KNOW SPANISH BUT IS STILL SO FUCKING COMPLICATED LIKE.: NIGGA JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE NOT NEED TOO MANY STUFF AND NUMBERS
>>39714841
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HEALER/DOCTOR MAAAN
I ALSO WNAT A GUNSLINGER CLASS IF POSSIBLE
>>39715027
ASK YOURSELF THIS
IN WHICH WAYS, FROM A FUNDAMENTAL GAMEPLAY PERSPECTIVE, IS A DOCTOR DIFFERENT FROM A CLERIC? IS THEIR HEALING APPLIED MECHANICALLY DIFFERENTLY? DO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND RESOURCES? IF NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY A SEPARATE CLASS, IT'S JUST A RESKIN
SAME THING WITH GUNSLINGER VS ARCHER. IF THERE'S A MECHANICAL DIFFERENCE YOU WANT TO EXPRESS, YOU NEED TO HOMEBREW THAT SHIT AND PLAYTEST IT. BUT OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO SENSE IN MAKING IT A NEW CLASS, IF MECHANICALLY THE RESOURCES AND EFFECTS ARE THE SAME.
>>39715066
FROM A GAMEPLAY PERSPECTIVE; AND ALSO LORE ONE; THE FACT THAT THERE's NO GODS; AND LOTS OF CLERIC ABILITIES DEPENDS ON THEM, LIKE DIVINE INTERVENTION FOR EXAMPLE
AND YES; I KINDA WANT ARCHERY VS GUNS TO FEEL DIFFERENT
BUT I GUESS I CAN TRY HOMEBREWING THE GUNS PART; STILL; FUCKING CLERICS MAN!
>>39715027
Man, I really want to play an Etrian living card game
>>39715108
MAKE THE DOCTOR'S GOD
SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION
>>39715108
>THERE's NO GODS; AND LOTS OF CLERIC ABILITIES DEPENDS ON THEM, LIKE DIVINE INTERVENTION FOR EXAMPLE
NOTHING IN A CLERIC'S POWER-SET HAS A GAMEPLAY EFFECT DEPENDENT ON THE EXISTENCE OF GODS
IT READS 'YOUR TARGET CAN SPEND A HEALING SURGE AND GAIN +6 HIT POINTS', NOT 'YOUR GOD LETS YOUR TARGET SPEND A HEALING SURGE AND GAIN +6 HIT POINTS'. IT'S 'YOUR ENEMY TAKES X DAMAGE AND GRANTS COMBAT ADVANTAGE TO YOUR ALLIES UNTIL YOUR NEXT TURN', NOT 'YOUR GOD SMITES YOUR FOE FOR X DAMAGE AND GUIDES YOUR ALLIES' BLADES'
ALL JUST FLUFF, BABY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MECHANICALLY SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE USE OF GUNS, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE COMBAT YOU USUALLY SEE IN D&D?
>>39715108
>>39715066
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE MORE OF A FOCUS ON ACCURATE, CRIPPLING MELEE ATTACKS AND POISONS, AS OPPOSED TO A CLERIC'S ABILITY TO RAIN DOWN HOLY FIRE.
>>39714815
>ANIMA: I FUCKING LOVE THE SPELLBOOK, BUT MAN; CHARACTER CREATION AND THE RULES LOOK REALLY COMPLICATED; OR MAYBE IS JUST THE BIG NUMBERS AND LOTS OF THINGS WITH NAMES
HERE'S SOMETHING THAT MAY BE OF USE TO YOU, IN THAT CASE.
>ALSO; IM TRYING TO RECREATE THAT FEELING OF JAPANESE DUNGEON CRAWLERS, MAGIC; CRAZY ATTACKS AND SHIT.
STILL SUGGESTING SWORD WORLD. IF SOME HERO TRANSLATES ALSHARD OR ARIANHROD SOMEDAY, THAT SHIT'LL BE THE STUFF FOR YOU.
>>39704835
YOU LITERALLY COULD NOT HAVE MISSED THE JOKE THE PERSON WAS GOING FOR ANY HARDER IF IT HAD BEEN FLUNG AT YOU BY A MAJOR LEAGUE PITCHER
>>39715145
ALSO THIS
>>39715162
MOSTLY TO DIFERENTIATE BOWS AND GUNS IN ABILITIES TERMS; SINCE I DONT WANT 2 PLAYERS THAT CHOOSE EACH ONE TO FEEL THEY PLAYING THE SAME CLASS WIT A DIFFERENT NAME; MAYBE GUNSLINGER CAN ALSO USE OTHER KINDS OF GUNS; LIKE CANONS; OR RIFLES OR THAT SHIT; DUNNO.OR HAVING THEM USE MAGIC BULLETS LIKE FIRE OR ICE ONES MEANWHILE RANGER FOCUS MORE ON STATUS EFFECTS AND SHIT LIKE THAT
>>39715423
THANKS BRO YOU COOL, ALSO I HAVE A FRIEND THAT KNOWS JAPANESE SO MAYBE I CAN USE THEM!
CAPS LOCK MAY BE CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, BUT EVEN WITH CRUISE YOU STILL NEED TO STEER.
>>39713558
HE'S SAYING THE PEOPLE OF IVALICE WERE ALSO MADE OF REAL WORLD PEOPLE YOU ASSHOLE, YOU ARE TRADING BACK THEIR OLD LIVES! YOU CAN'T BE LIKE "OH THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE TOO" IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THE PEOPLE THAT TURNED INTO THE MONSTERS WHICH THERE WERE FAR GREATER IN NUMBER OF. NEEDS OF THE MANY, FAGGOT.
>>39715499
THAT'S LEGIT THEN. LOOK OVER SOME OTHER CLASSES, SEE IF ANY OF THEM HAVE THE MECHANICAL VIBE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. A BARD FOR EXAMPLE IS A STRONG LEADER WHO ALSO TORMENTS THE FOE WITH PSYCHIC DAMAGE. ALSO, CONSIDER HYBRID OPTIONS, AND HOW THOSE COULD MIX APPROPRIATE EFFECTS FROM MULTIPLE CLASSES TO GIVE A PLAYER THE APPROPRIATE VIBE.
AS FOR OVERLAP, THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN. ONE GUY WANTS TO PLAY A RIP-AND-TEAR BERSERKER WHO PUTS HIMSELF AT RISK TO SLAY HIS OPPONENTS, ANOTHER GUY WANTS TO PLAY A NOBLE SAVAGE WHO EMULATES A PREDATOR IN ORDER TO USE ITS STRENGTH AGAINST HIS FOES, THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE BARBARIANS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT BUILDS, STATS, AND APPROACHES, AND THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. DON'T WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT THINGS FEELING TOO ALIKE.
THIS PROBABLY ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT OP BUT I FEEL THAT IT STILL DESERVES MENTION
RYUUTAMA (MONDSPRACHE FOR DRAGON'S EGG) IS A REAL COOL JAPANESE TTRPG BY A BASED JAPANESE GROGNARD NAMED ATSUHIRO OKADA
IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS "HAYAO MIYAZAKI'S OREGON TRAIL"
IT'S SET IN A NOBLEBRIGHT FANTASY WORLD AND YOU ARE ADVENTURERS WHO SET OUT TO EXPLORE IT
IT'S NOT AS HIGH-FLYING AND FLASHY AS WHAT YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR
IT HAS COMBAT RULES BUT COMBAT ISN'T USUALLY THE FOCUS; YOU GET MORE EXP FROM EXPLORING THE WORLD AND RELYING ON ONE ANOTHER TO OVERCOME CHALLENGES
FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY
>>39715942
SHIT THAT LOOKS AND SOUNDS CUTE AS FUCK
I LOVE EXPLORATION AS A THEME IN GAMES.
>>39715964
>SHIT THAT LOOKS AND SOUNDS CUTE AS FUCK
IT IS, ANON, IT IS
IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR PARTY INTO JAPANESE RPGS THIS IS WAY MORE ENTRY-LEVEL THAN MAID
IT'S JUST AS EASY TO PICK UP AND AS MAID AND HAS THE SAME RULES-LITE-BUT-STILL-ROBUST JE NE SAIS QUOI, BUT IT'S ALSO AS INCORRUPTIBLY INNOCENT AND WHOLESOME AS A GHIBLI MOVIE
>>39715942
>>39715964
>>39716081
THE CONFLICT RESOLUTION MECHANICS ARE ALSO PRETTY INTERESTING
YOU HAVE 4 TOTAL STATS: STRENGTH, DEXTERITY, INTELLIGENCE, AND SPIRIT. ALL FOUR CAN HAVE A VALUE FROM 1 TO 5.
EACH NUMBER HAS A DIE ASSOCIATED WITH IT: D4 FOR 1, D6 FOR 2, D8 FOR 3, D10 FOR 4 AND D12 FOR 5.
ANY TIME YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING YOU HAVE A REASONABLE CHANCE TO FAIL AT, THE GM TELLS YOU TO ROLL 2 DICE BASED ON THE NATURE OF THE CHALLENGE. IF YOU HAD TO CLIMB A MOUNTAINSIDE, YOU WOULD ROLL YOUR STR DIE AND YOUR DEX DIE, ADD THE RESULTS TOGETHER, AND TRY TO BEAT A DC.
THIS PARTICULARLY STANDS OUT BECAUSE JAPS MOSTLY JUST USE D6'S FOR THEIR RPGS.
IS THIS A ROOM FULL OF NECKBEARS SHOUTING ABOUT ANIMU~DESU ROLEPLAY?!
>>39716514
THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT, I SWEAR!
>>39715556
THOSE PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY NO LONGER EXIST BECAUSE OF DIFFERENCES IN MEMORY AND CULTURE. FOR EXAMPLE, WHO CHAUCER WAS BEFORE HAS NO BARING ON WHO HE WAS IN IVALICE AS HE IS CHAUCER IN IVALICE, NOT THE OTHER GUY. BY REVERTING THE WORLD, CHAUCER DIED. MARCHE DECIDED WHO DESERVED TO LIVE AND WHO DESERVED TO DIE. WHAT IF RANDOM ASS BAANGA NUMBER 2 DIDN'T WANT THE WORLD TO CHANGE, ARE HIS DESIRES ANY LESS VALID THAN MARCHE'S?
>>39716883
>WHAT IF RANDOM ASS BAANGA NUMBER 2 DIDN'T WANT THE WORLD TO CHANGE, ARE HIS DESIRES ANY LESS VALID THAN MARCHE'S?
Yes. He's not the protagonist.
>>39711937
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HIM ANYWAYS
WE'LL MISS YOU MR. RAGE. MAY ANGELS SING THEE TO THY SLEEP.
>>39716464
THAT SOUNDS SIMILAR TO DOGS IN THE VINEYARD
ALSO IS IT AVAILABLE IN HARDCOPY OUTSIDE OF JAPANESE LAND?
HEY GUYS THIS THREAD IS GREAT BUT CAN YOU RECOMMEND AN RPG WITH A RUKWBOOK WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS THANKS IN ADVANCE
>>39717765
YES
HTTP://KOTODAMA.BIGCARTEL.COM/
>>39717022
I THINK HE JUST QUIT POSTING BECAUSE /TG/ GOT SORT OF DUMB. I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE QUESTS GOT HUGE.
>>39717922
SOME PAST IDENTITIES WENT ANON BECAUSE OF BANNING SPREES AS WELL.
>>39718108
TRUE, IN SOME CASES IT WAS FOR THE BETTER BUT IT ALSO DROVE OFF A LOT OF OUR MORE UNIQUE PERSONALITIES THAT WEREN'T TERRIBLE.
>>39718926
I THINK WE'LL SEE A RETURN OF THAT KIND OF DIVERSITY AND MADNESS IF WE CONCENTRATE ON NOT BEING SHIT. BY THE WAY, OP, IN SUMMARY:
•D&D 4E FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND DOING THIS SHIT: >>39703254
•BIG EYE, SMALL MOUTH FOR APPROPRIATENESS
•GURPS BECAUSE GURPS
•ANIMA FOR FLASH, BUT IT IS PRETTY GRINDY
>>39715499
I DUNNO MAN THAT SEEMS MORE LIKE YOU'RE GETTING STUCK ON FLAVOR=CRUNCH, WHICH IS A PRETTY TOXIC STANCE. A CLERIC'S WHATEVER THE FUCK CAN EASILY BE A DOCTOR WITH A SATCHEL FULL OF CHEMICAL BULLSHIT AND A SYRINGE GUN. CALLING DOWN THE HOLY FIRE IS JUST A FLAVOR LINE. IT CAN BE STABBING A DUDE IN THE NECK WITH A NERVE IRRITANT JUST AS EASILY. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE MECHANIC, AND YOU DON'T LOSE ANYTHING FOR CALLING YOUR CLERIC (OR ALCHEMIST) A DOCTOR. SAME THING WITH GUNSLINGERS, DOG, THEY CAN BE A RANGED ROGUE SUPER EASILY.
>>39719686
>TOXIC
YOU'RE RETARDED
NOBODY IS SAYING A CLERIC CAN'T BE REFLUFFED AS A DOCTOR, HE'S SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T WANT HIS PLAYERS TO CHOOSE LITERALLY THE SAME CLASS BUT OH IT'S NOT THE SAME CLASS "CUZ IT'S FLUFFED DIFFERENT"
IT'S UTTERLY UNSATISFYING TO HAVE YOUR ARCHETYPE'S SHTICK BE EXPRESSED AS A DIFFERENT ARCHETYPE'S SHTICK AND THE ONLY THING THAT DIFFERENTIATES THEM ARE FLUFFY TERMS. FUCK, EVEN GENERALIST SYSTEMS LIKE MUTANTS AND MASTERMINDS OR WILD TALENTS CODIFY THE "FLUFF" BEHIND AN ABILITY AS BEING FROM A PARTICULAR SOURCE (MAGIC, TECHNOLOGY, NATURAL ABILITIES, MUTATIONS, ETC), MEANING THAT AT THE VERY LEAST IT INTERACTS WITH CERTAIN MECHANICS DIFFERENTLY (USUALLY WHATEVER EQUIVALENT OF "POWER NEGATION" THE GAME HAS)
>>39714594
UH NO
IT'S BASED ON ALSHARD
HENCE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CHOCOBOS AND LIZARD PEOPLE AND SHIT
>>39703132
MAYBE NOT QUITE BUT TIANXIA: BLOOD SILK AND JADE IS A PRETTY GOOD FATE EXTENSION FOR DOING WUXIA/KUNG FU STYLE STUFF SET IN `IMPERIAL CHINA` YOU COULD TOTALLY DO SOME ROMANCE OF THE THREE KINGDOMS OR TWELVE KINGDOMS STYLE STUFF
THREADS LIKE THESE MAKE ME REALLY MISS MR. RAGE, WHO ALWAYS PROVIDED COGENT AND LOGICAL ARGUMENTS PEPPERED WITH VERY HELPFUL ADVICE IN ALL CAPS.
>>39715027
I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN AN ETRIAN ODYSSEY HOMEBREW. AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, THE MEDIC IS AN EASY REFLUFF OF A HEALING FOCUSED CLERIC, AND YOU COULD EVEN WORK SOME OF THE MACE ABILITIES IN.
>>39715942
IS THERE AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION< AND IF SO< CAN SOMEONE POINT ME TO SOMEWHERE I CAN ACCESS IT>
IF ITS WORTH BUYING I"LL PAY THE DOLLAR BUT IM WARY OF THE NIPPON
>>39714815
WHAT YOU WANT IS ALSHARD
JUST LEARN JAPANESE AND PLAY THAT
>>39714461
LOL, LOOK AT THIS LOSER.
>>39714815
TENRA
BANSHO
ZERO
>>39723558
YES; SEE >>39717909
>>39714873
>NO FUN ALLOWED
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAANEEEEEEEEEEEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>39725917
TETSUOOOOOOOO
>>39726735
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>39712843
TRUTH! GENOCIDAL AVENGER ELF BEST GIRL!
>>39715539
BLAST FROM THE PAST, NIGGA!
>>39703132
3d&T is good for animefaggotry. It is very simple. So simple in fact that your 'weapon' is just a 'skin'; so it can be anything, giant swords, paper, rocks, toy hammers, etc. The books are very focused on 'anime' adventures as well.
>>39727877
SPEAK UP NIGGA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
>>39728115
..i have a sore throat..
>>39728203
WHAT?
>>39728203
There's a limit to how many dicks you should suck at once.
>>39711007
>THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH 5TH EDITION
>>39728203
>>39728229
HE SAYS HE HAS A SORE THROAT!
IT WAS PROBABLY FROM HAVING TOO MANY PHALLUSES SHOVED IN HIS FACE!
>>39710752
>OVA
NO! FUCK OVA, IT'S BROKEN AS FUCK!
'S LIKE A MINMAXERS DREAM AT TIMES
>>39710752
>SLAYERS d20
JUST USE AD&D.
SOMEBODY
>>39728901
YES?
>>39728901
TOLD ME
>>39722282
THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL. IN M&M, THOSE ARE MINOR MECHANICAL VARIATIONS. THE FLUFF IS HOW THE POWER DOES ITS THING, AND THE THING IT DOES IS THE CRUNCH. IN D&D4E, TWO CLERICS CAN PLAY VERY VERY DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE YOU CAN CHOOSE EVEN YOUR CORE MECHANIC TO BE A DIFFERENT THING, AS WELL AS POWER SELECTION AND FEAT CHOICES. THESE ARE SIZEABLE CHANGES. TWO CLERICS WITH THE SAME CHOICES WILL WORK THE SAME, NO MATTER HOW YOU FLUFF THEM; THIS, AT LEAST, IS TRUE. BUT THE FLUFF DOES NOT NEED A WHOLE NEW CLASS OR FUNCTION OR BOOK TO ITSELF BECAUSE IT IS SO MALLEABLE. THIS IS A CORE PROBLEM OF GAMES LIKE PATHFINDER, WHERE THE BLOAT IS STAGGERING AND THEREFORE THE BALANCE AND FUNCTION DESTROYED. BY RESPECTING YOUR FLUFF CHOICE AT ALL TIMES, YOU WILL NATURALLY MAKE DIFFERENT MECHANICAL CHOICES, AND EVEN THE SAME MECHANICAL EFFECTS WILL INTERACT DIFFERENTLY WITH THE NARRATIVE AND THE GAME WORLD.
WHAT POINT ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO MAKE? A GROWN MAN INJECTING A COMBATANT WITH PROPRIETARY CHEMICALS AND AN ELVEN HARPY CALLING DOWN HOLY FIRE ON APOSTATES IS NOT THE SAME THING IN THE STORY, BUT THEY MIGHT BE REFLECTED THE SAME WAY IN DICE FORMULA. THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. YOU AREN'T PLAYING A SPREADSHEET. YOU'RE PLAYING A CHARACTER.
>>39729174
>YOU AREN'T PLAYING A SPREADSHEET. YOU'RE PLAYING A CHARACTER.
>LE ROLEPLAY NOT ROLLPLAY FAEC :^)
THE POINT WAS YOUR INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WANT MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHARACTERS AND NOT SIMPLE REFLUFFING IS EVIDENCE OF YOU BEING A FAG
>>39729174
>>39729256
WHEN THE DIFFERENCE IS AS SMALL AS CLERIC >> HEALER OR PALADIN >> KNIGHT, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT BIG OF DEAL FROM EITHER STANDPOINT
>>39730159
CHECK
>>39715162
>>39730187
IT SOUNDS LIKE OP WANTS A FANTASY SETTING, THOUGH, WHERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLERIC AND HEALER REALLY IS MOSTLY SEMANTICS
>>39730370
HEALER IN MOST JAPANESE FANTASY SETTINGS AND DUNGEON CRAWLERS IS REALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE CLERIC CONCEPT FROM DND AND SIMILAR GAMES THOUGH. LIKE HE SAID; MEDICS/HEALERS USE POISON OR STATUS EFFECTS OR AIMING TO SPECIFICS PART OF THE BODY INSTEAD OF JUST CHANNELING THEIR DEITIES
