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Alex "not a furry, not a babyfur" Augunas presents: Childhood Adventurers!
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/185078/Childhood-Adventures
N. Jolly's vigilante book playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hrk1hl8uXVHazaiPOCvWsFUHX3PB6fQVd13tzguJTgE/edit?usp=sharing
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Old Thread: >>48189060
You're an awful person.
Every day we stray further from god's light
>>48194727
>Explore new sites, battle powerful foes, and find fantastic treasures all before bedtime using Childhood Adventures, by Everyman Gaming, LLC. Designed for the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Childhood Adventures helps players and GMs tell fantastic tales featuring young characters.
>Expanded age category rules, allowing you to create young characters for every race and creature type.
>Aging and Growth, a new system for determining the rate at which specific, individual characters grow and mature.
>Rules for aging effects, allowing you to make your PCs and NPCs older and younger via magical effects.
>Publisher’s Note: Childhood Adventures includes a number of essays designed to help GMs address adult situations in Roleplaying Games. While these sections aren’t graphic in presentation, they deal with mature content and as a result, parts of Childhood Adventures may not appropriate for younger readers. Parents are advised to read Childhood Adventures to formulate their own opinions before handing it off to a younger reader.
Is there a problem?
>>48194678
Looking for some small encounters to put at spots on a map.
Sort of a heavily forested area on the borders of civilized land.
I was thinking maybe a hag or a were-something would be cool. I've already got a huge dungeon, some lizardmen, bandits, and a druid.
>>48194774
Owlbear den/nest?
>>48194727
So true and so disgusting at the same time.
>>48194774
Bears, elk, random wild life.
What level?
>>48194774
A mine taken over by goblins/orcs/trolls/level appropriate green nobbly fantasy enemy
>>48194678
I think the hair is what bothers me most about that thing, followed closely by the eyes
>>48194774
Have your party be attacked by underage beastemen bandits.
>>48194836
Hair, you say?
>>48194774
loli elf man abducters
Who is the best bestiary waifu and why is itErodaemon?
So! Putting aside the efforts of a madman to ruin foxes for everyone forever, how's your weekend going, /pfg/?
>>48194774
Feral Gnolls. Seriously nasty blighters. Fluffwise.
>>48194872
Had an awesome game the other day, going to have another tonight. I'd say pretty good.
>>48194872
Not even fennecs are safe.
From the anon who brought you the Seneschal and Blood Reaver, I give you another homebrew that I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how bad this is.
The Lord of the Lash (temp name until I get a better one. Suggestions open), an Initiating Archetype for the Swashbuckler-
>But anon, can't we just play a Warlord/Landschneckt?
Shut up Timmy and let me finish!
It's an archetype for the Swashbuckler made to be a master of whips, chains, and other lash like weapons, themed in the vein of Zorro, Catwoman, Axl Low, Ivy, The Belmonts, and the like. I got the idea from talking to a friend about ideas for PoW and him mentioning PF isn't that good for whips. Combined with me recalling that archetypes can completely change the whole theme of a class (Monk of the Silver Fist), and that led me to this.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H3wuQkHv6CBBbXHe229TMv-pEYB9HshPOzSFIYT6bQk/edit?usp=sharing
As always, I DESPERATELY want critique, criticism, comments, and am even willing to overhaul entire sections or even the whole archetype if its really stupid and I have a lead on where to change it to.
Now, let the tearing apart begin. Hurt me good anons.
Oh, and if anyone has a better pic, please share.
>>48194872
bretty good. getting ready for leaving on a trip to Alaska this Wednesday.
>>48194866
Those goddamn loli manhunter gangs!
>>48194872
GM hasn't shown up yet, we were supposed to start two hours ago.
>>48194678
>>48194759
>>48194863
>>48194900
Why is this allowed? I don't even play PF anymore and I can feel the disgust welling up inside me.
Furries are known for making poor financial decisions, do you think I could sell my old PF books to one? I've got like a dozen of them and their presence on my shelf fills me with regret and nausea.
>>48194678
>Kitsune
>Red
This bothers me more than it should. Kitsune are white or yellow.
>>48194759
>>Publisher’s Note: Childhood Adventures includes a number of essays designed to help GMs address adult situations in Roleplaying Games. While these sections aren’t graphic in presentation, they deal with mature content and as a result, parts of Childhood Adventures may not appropriate for younger readers. Parents are advised to read Childhood Adventures to formulate their own opinions before handing it off to a younger reader.
Why do I feel like this touches on sensitive subject matter in an incredibly poorly handled hamfisted way?
>>48194900
Yeah, pretty sure I didn't need to see that.
On a thankfully unrelated topic, anyone have any advice for making a poison-based build that's actually viable, or should I give up and try a different concept?
>>48195013
>Why do I feel like this touches on sensitive subject matter in an incredibly poorly handled hamfisted way?
Because it involves furries and was written by furries.
>>48194922
>tempest gale with whips
>thrashing dragon with whips
holy shit what
>>48195066
You're right, I shouldn't care this much about a game I don't even play anymore. I'll stop shitting up the thread.
>>48194872
So far so good, me and a friend binge watched Game of Thrones to catch up. Had a few laughs and moments of anger. All in all good times.
>>48195066
>outing yourself
what race ideas do you have?
>>48195036
Alchemist. There's at least two archetypes that specialize in Poison.
>>48195051
That's one thing that I'm currently debating. It seemed the most thematically appropriate, but at the same time seemed a bit much and crazy. I may change it up depending on future comments.
The Thrashing Dragon bit is mostly for either Dual-weilding whips, or using stuff like Kusari-Kama and the like. Flail weapon group has a lot of Double Weapons
>>48194872
Friend got me Grim Dawn, so I've been playing it. It's pretty fun.
I wonder why ARPG tabletop hasn't been done yet.
>>48194678
>>48194759
>Childhood Adventures
>essays designed to help GMs address adult situations
Something doesn't seem to fit quite right, here.
>>48195145
>>48195101
>>48195117
Not a furry, I just think it's ridiculous that a group of people who won't stop talking about their anime and waifu fetishes give a damn if some fuck writes furry 3pp
I mean, shit, one of the most popular waifus around is literally a sapient wolf
>>48195129
Well, 4e has a vaguely ARPG feel to it, I think.
>>48195181
>sapient wolf
yes, but she isn't a furry
bestiality is leagues above being a furri in ever way, shape, and form.
>>48195181
Anon, we're specifically talking about things that are posted in this thread. Cartoonish humanoid fox children and a warning that this game about children isn't actually safe for children. That is clearly suspect.
>>48195235
>why is it guaranteed to be bad?
>because it was written by a furry
>>48194678
Someone has to stop this.
>>48195247
Not wrong
>>48195204
>bestiality is leagues above being a furri
>literally screwing animals
>better than having sex with a sapient humanoid
Congrats, you're as bad as the horsefuckers on /mlp/
>>48194678
pdf?
>>48195263
Worse, I'd say. They're at least sapient.
>>48195263
bestiality may e degeneracy; but it isn't furry
furry is down there with loli and scat
>>48195312
I'll cut you up for shitting on loli, m8.
>>48194984
because my good man.
>"everyone plays Pathfinder"
> Retards and their Retarded Mums can make shit for it without actually trying to balance it.
>some of the most Groggiest of Grognards won't try other systems that could do something better, so it feeds into the previous answers, and will pay for anything because they are too lazy to try and make it themselves.
>>48195312
Are you conflating the actual attraction to animal people with the community surrounding furries?Which is desu not really any worse than other communities of such size when you get down to it?
>>48195066
I love that furries STILL don't realize why everyone hates them.
Like, if you told me you wanted a bunch of animal people as races, that'd be one thing but inevitably, a book full of animal races will use the words "toddler" and "adult situation" in the same sentence
>>48195371
A persecution complex (fursecution complex?) is a powerful thing.
>>48195312
You're here because you couldn't troll the Furry thread, aren't you?
Seriously, this grasping is just pathetic.
>>48195379
>fursecution
My sides are in orbit.
>>48195392
Trying to establish some kind of hierarchy of deviance is stupid, I agree. That being said, furries can yiff in hell, and footfags are by far the most obnoxious fetishists.
>>48195406
Have you never heard that term before? It's not new. We used to have a /fur/ board that got purged. Look up April Furs Day.
>>48195371
That degeneracy is independent of furries you know.
Consider that twit that kept going on about magical child vigilantes with innocuous servant and companion to the lonely who kept going on about RAPE THE LOLI MAIDS
RUN OP! YOU COMMITTED THE CLASSIC BLUNDER!
>>48195420
I'm laughing because I just knew that had to be a real term that assblasted furfags used.
>>48195427
OP knew what the fuck he did.
we all fell for it like the shit children we are.
>>48195371
Except this fetish is its own thing apart from furries. It only seems to be common because people after a while ignore loli/shota, and because furries are already used to being left in the dark corners that its easier for the grosser fetishes to accumulate than in the weeaboo community. Still, the number of furries who are actually into that stuff is a much smaller proportion than loli-fags are to weeaboos
>>48194759
I was working on a sourcebook for d20 around this idea which I had called Urchin. It was basically focused on rock-bottom level adventuring where rabid dogs, slavers, and disease were the biggest threats you would face, and not just annoyances. To a small kid on the streets, an entire city is a dungeon.
I sadly had fuck-all in terms of crunch and it was literally all fluff. I ended up scrapping it a few weeks later.
>>48195468
And to anyone that asks, yes I did touch on the subjects of sexual abuse, prostitution, and the consequences therof along with middle-ages attitudes towards street kids and those that prey on them, and "cleanups" of homeless children.
>>48195463
And yet whenever something rises to the top of the filth it's still caked on there. The Weeaboo crowd generally does one of two things with its weirder fetishes:
>Scrapes them off before presenting a new thing (See BESM)
>Just makes that weird fetish the thing (See Nechronica)
Furries for whatever reason have some form of brain damage that prevents them from realizing that peppering pedophilia in an otherwise normal game isn't a good idea.
>everyone laughing at how much of a faggot Augunuas is for past two threads
>even furfags call him a pathetic loser
>suddenly assblasted grog starts shitposting
>people fall for the bait and everything descends into a riot
>all because moron with keyboard diarrhea couldn't help but yell about his riotous hatred for the jewis- I mean furry conspiracy
>even claims bestiality is better
Fuck this thread, and fuck you guys. You all are just as bad as the pre-purge furfags. Seriously, if you hate them so much, go to hell and murder-yiff them yourselves there.
>>48195543
>pfg is one person
>>48195543
>PF thread destroy by arguing over furries
God's in his heaven and all's right with the world
>>48195036
Vivisectionist Alchemist, taking 5 levels in Guild Poisoner when appropriate. Get a +5 Toxic Virulent Snakebite Dagger. If you want you can also spring for a Meduseion, and ask your DM how the Serpent Belt works (an item that they didn't see fit to update with the errata).
With Malignant Poison, Poison Focus, Potent Concoctions, Concentrated Poisons, and the Treacherous Toxin ability from Guild Poisoner, that's a +17+1/2 Level to the DCs of any poison you use. The Meduseion grants an effective +2 to the DC, the Toxic Magic Toxic Trick class ability can grant another +4 if you choose Pernicious Poison, Tailored Toxin increases it by 2 against a specific type, and the Serpent's Belt potentially boosts it by another 4 for a total of +29+1/2 Level to poison DCs.
Ever hit someone with a DC 52 Drow Poison?
>>48195536
Its because they're so used to making stuff only for their own kind and accepting that the normies will either ignore or hate it already, that they've essentially given up on making it appealing to anyone who's not a furry.
Its essentially a symptom of incestuous community clannishness. Its the same thing that happens with other communities like Homestuck, MLP, Steven Universe, /pol/, Islam, Trekkies, Twilight, etc
Its what happens whenever a group of idiots is left to stew in their own juices for too long, it is not purely a furry phenomenon.
>>48195536
Again, you're assuming all furries are the same.
Which they ain't. No group of such breadth could possibly be all the same. You're just noticing the really egregious creeps.
>>48195581
I have not, but I would love to try now, thank you.
>>48195562
The only time I said it was one person was when I mentioned the guy who started it, and kept going. Your statement is non-applicable in this scenario, it just shows that you're part of the problem.
>>48195601
>fandom in a shellnut
>>48195643
EXACTLY!
>>48195625
Oh, don't forget to grab Celestial Poisons too so that you can knock out demon lords as a standard action.
>>48195066
>wanting to fuck animals
>thinking he shouldn't be judged for this
>>48195601
Pretty much this.
It's the opposite of 'broadening the appeal'
You don't care about what people think because they already hate you, and you have no reason to ingratiate yourself to them, so you just do what you want.
I'm surprised to learn that furries are still a thing, thought they all transformed into bronies
>>48195664
No, you have him confused with this reprobate>>48195204
Does Diplomacy work on players?
>>48195706
You sweet, naive summer child.
>>48195716
Nope.
Well, I mean... you can try using YOUR diplomacy against players, but I dunno how good that is...
Characters though? No.
>>48195716
No. Diplomacy the skill is abstracted conversation and bargaining with NPCs so you don't have to keep track of every possible nuance in a conversation with a fake person. Diplomacy with real people is called "talking to them like reasonable adults."
>>48195742
>implying the pathfinder player base is not entirely consistent of furries, manchildren, and artists
>reasonable adults
>>48195706
from what I've actually heard, many furries seem to also despise the bronies for some reason. What that reason is I cannot discern.
Also, /tg/ is rife with either minor or closet furs, xenophiles, and monstergirlfags. they just tend to not mention it or push it until its brought up first, since they tend to be smart enough to hide their power level when not around their own kind or group.
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>>48195772
Fittingly, the diplomacy skill in real life is performed by someone with only 1 skill rank and a low Cha.
>>48195772
>Artists are unreasonable.
I get that was probably an autocorrect from autists, but I am still amused.
>>48195742
>Diplomacy with real people is called "talking to them like reasonable adults."
You don't deal with people that much? Let alone with things of actualy worth more than someone oweing you a fucking beer. If you need to "Diplomacy" you are in a weak position and need something that can't already be done, it's basically a service customer relationship with you in the service role there is nothing fucking reasonable adult about dealing with customers. It's about assuring them that the tons of shit they want done don't matter (because it doesn't) and cutting deals that make you do more useless work that doesn't need to be done and they have in the past completely forgot about because it's just how they do things.
When you're using Diplomacy you're telling the truth in such a way it might as well be a lie and stroking the other persons ego to degrees that you've observed they'll take it and not start thinking you're trying to fleece them. Reasonable adult woudl be cutting all this shit out and frankly stating what needs to be done but that does not work outside of film and boss employee relationships.
>>48195601
Keep going, we've almost managed to hit that crucial moment of self-reflection..
>>48195772
>entirely
>furries, manchildren, and artists
Hey now, I'm a property manager, a buddy of mine is ex-army and works at as a manager at a gas station, and the other guy in our group is a pizza delivery driver.
>manchild shitposting intensifies
>>48195846
What, that /pfg/, Paizo, and essentially the entire Pathfinder community is the same?
We've already known that for ages though.
>>48195847
Then by process of elimination, you MUST be a furry, since manchildren couldn't manage properties, wouldn't be let into the military, and... I guess could potentially work pizza delivery. And the army guy COULD be ex-army for BEING a manchild.
I mean unless you're all hobby artists I guess.
But that's apparently just as bad!
>>48194678
MFW that fucking image
>>48195742
>>48195728
Thanks. I needed to know because my players are arguing because their bard has been a complete asshole. He says he can get away with his bullshit because he has a massive Diplomacy bonus and that he's so good at talking the rest of the party can't want to kill him.
>>48195836
>artists/autists
Same thing, really.
>>48195890
Of course I'm a hobby artist, I manage properties so that I can buy my own food, clothes, and housing.Ex-army guy is ex-army for having three tours and resigning, he's a manchild because he insists his job is shit while not doing anything about it.Pizza driver is a furry only in the sense that his "lady friend" is a land whale.
>>48195904
Sounds like the bard's going to be in for a rude awakening then.
Wow.
This almost makes me want to get rid of the clan leader of the barbarian clan that I'm planning on having in the AP I'm writing. Dude's an old fucking kitsune Warlord known only as the Silver Fox who wanted to go full Prussian up there and unite the other clans under his rule (he dies, being old as fuck, and the Players inherit his dream, having become his right hand).
>>48196006
Yes, the party is giving him the soap in a sock treatment as I type.
>>48195904
I usually give an argument like that about 5 minutes of real conversation between the players to resolve before letting them roll one of the following:
>diplomacy, intimidate, or bluff
>a charisma, wisdom, or intelligence check with the DC as 1/2 the highest opposing roll
Rolls are made per-side, either clockwise or (if it's two factions or only two players) whoever rolls their d20 first. Only one roll is made, and effects that force rerolls at any point or substitute a roll in any way do not apply for the sake of ease.
Whoever wins, wins. It's one-round roshambo and it allows things to move forward.
>>48196008
>Silver Fox
>>48196140
>roshambo
Rochambeau, you American philistine. You should know that word, you're country wouldn't exist without it.
>>48194678
>>48194759
"Pathfinder was a mistake."
- James "Magic nipple rings for days" Jacobs
>>48196258
Fuck off you limey prick.
>>48196258
>you're
That has to have been intentional.
>>48196258
>>48196160
It's because he's old, and the fur of his tails had turned...
Oh shit.
Would you believe me if I told you I had missed that entirely?
He's not a furfag Kitsune, either, he looks like an aged, handsome half-elf with several fox tails.
I find it kinda funny, that whenever furries are brought up, it's always about kitsune.
Never Skinwalkers. Never Catfolk, Ratfolk, Tengu or Grippli.
Always Kitsune.
>>48196490
Foxes are, by, like, an order of magnitude, the most popular furbait, while simultaneously being the most popular weebait.
Plus, nobody plays catfolk or grippli, and skinwalkers are were-folk with no canonical look.
>>48196414
That's actually a pretty cool background and description for him, but I couldn't help but make the connection.
Maybe just call him the Old Fox to emphasize his veteran status?
>>48196490
It's less likely someone will make a fetish of rats, crows or frogs.
>>48195468
I'd like a game where my urchin character gets enslaved.
>I sadly had fuck-all in terms of crunch and it was literally all fluff. I ended up scrapping it a few weeks later.
Should have just used it as a fluff book or converted it to a more rules-lite system/setting.
>>48195263
Come on, like you've never wanted your druid to sub for her wolf companion.
>>48194922 here
Is thread kill? Still hoping for some critique or criticism. When no one points out something wrong it really worries me.
>>48196820
>Druid
>not Primal Companion Hunter
Pleb, I bet your PC wasn't even a halfling
>>48197276
>playing small races
>>48197314
>Not playing small races
>>48197314
>>48197340
>playing pathfinder
>>48196581
Old Fox or Grey Fox, one of those two.
The clan he led named themselves the Red Fox when he was younger, and they've kept that name.
>>48197365
>Not playing Pathfinder
>>48194678
>>48197236
pretty much kill.
Oh OP, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders-The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia"-but only slightly less well known is this: "Never start a thread with an image more interesting than the text!" Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
>>48197314
As long as it's not a gnome
>>48197390
Grey Fox was from Metal Gear.
Very bandit sounding.
>>48197461
Also Oblivion
>>48197404
>not playing Dragonraid
You Heretics deserved this thread
>>48194984
Why do you care? People have been making poorly balanced content for d20 systems for 16 years, anon. It's not going to suddenly stop just because you finally moved on to other games.
>>48197580
The fuck is that?
>>48197607
I believe it's Dragonraid.
>>48197607
it's an "ALS"RPGmade by "Concerned Christians" as a replacement for D&D.
You can still buy it, it still comes in the early 80's box set, with the Crayon in dice, for about 30 bucks.
http://www.dragonraid.net/home
>>48197660
ALS?
>>48197730
Adventure learning system
>>48197607
A neatish game born as the moral alternative to DnD during the satanic panic of the 80s/90s. Had some neat ideas for what it was (combat as a last alternative, scripture based spellcasting, different dice for heroes and monsters) , but the Jaysus crowd hated all rpgs and it was way too religion focused for the normal crowd (once again, scripture based spells, a guide that both assumed the GM was some sort of youth group leader with real world authority to punish players, and that encourages them to railroad the hell out of players to deliver a moral)
>>48197875
>scripture based spellcasting,
that actually does sound kinda neato
>>48197660
Oh fuck yeah!
>>48197875
if I had to complain from it is how stats were rolled up with it. (1d10 add nothing to relative stat) but that was about it.
other companies have made some pretty interesting games, but they aren't as Widely known as Dragonraid.
except for Deus Vult, though that is not really much of a christian game.
Just checking, am I blind or is the Trove missing the Inner Sea World Guide? A player wants to run a Red Mantis, and d20pfsrd changed the name and copyrighted details around on their site so I want to make sure I'm looking at an accurate version of it.
>>48198220
Try this link: https://mega.nz/#F!vIJn1Y6Q!MbyyqQK6u0tWWSAimsIjiw!vBhCkRRL
>>48198343
Thanks anon, that did it. Appreciate the help!
>>48195013
>Kitsune are white or yellow.
??
Can anyone recommend some good resources for a necromancer? I already have arte mortis but I'd like to know if there are any other good ones I missed.
>>48198910
Had a player whos necromancer was the group cook. Chopped up wild game for the stew pot, descaled the fish, all that fun stuff. Then he filled a portable hole with all the bones. Not sure if that's what you mean by resources, but easy access to materials would certainly help.
>>48198940
Sorry if I was unclear, I meant books. 3rd party or otherwise. That is a nifty idea though.
>>48194759
Has this abomination been pirated yet?
>>48199000
I'd rather it got keel-hauled.
Something like pic related is okay, even attractive and is true to mythological and folkloric tales.
What Augunas and his ilk have is a mental illness and is wrong.
>>48198958
That's okay, I figured I was misunderstanding. I'm afraid the player mostly did stuff out of core, so can't help much with interesting takes on it. Good luck though!
So what variety of evil would you consider an organization like Daesh to be?
Depending on who you ask, they're either Lawful and Chaotic Evil (but not necessarily neutral). I guess it depends if they actually believe in the tenets or use them as a flagrant excuse.
inb4 the alignment system is stupid
>>48199160
>, even attractive and is true to mythological and folkloric tales.
I thought actual kitsune were just magic foxes that turned into people. The "just a human with ears and a tail" is a recent thing.
>>48199160
Also acceptable is pic related. OP's images are fucking not.
>>48199160
Anime girls with animal bits are always top tier.
>>48199215
What the goddamn fuck are daesh?
>>48199228
Ehh.. Is 130+ years "recent"? Because kitsune being sexy fox yoki with a leaf on their head, ears and a tail is from the late 19th century.
So guys, I mostly played martials or hybrid casters and I'd like to play a pure caster in the next campaign, but I'm really undecisive between cleric and arcane.
For the very simple reason that the cleric is a lot less squishy, and can support the team better even at low levels without being useless offensively, while the sorc feature of choosing any trick from his bag without restriction seem pretty damn fun. what should I do? is that d4 hp really limitating as it sounds?
>>48199289
No class in Pathfinder has a d4 hit die. Sorcerers and Wizards have d6; Cleric and Druid have d8
>>48199260
ISIS
It's generally the term used to refer to them as illegitimate.
>>48194759
What the sweet fuck is happening over there?
Go back to Ironclaw where we can contain you.
>>48194678
This fucking book
>The other aspect of sexuality—having sex—is never an appropriate topic for young PCs, and shouldn’t even be discussed whenever young players are at the table
That's surprisingly sensible coming from-
>without a serious conversation with the player’s guardians.
what
"Hey Sean we thought we should talk to you about the game of FATAL we're inviting your little brother to."
>>48199260
According to Google, it's what people are calling ISIS now, because "Islamic State" is giving them too much credit.
>>48199289
Cleric and Sorcerer aren't the only options. Druid is my personal favorite class in the game, with all the versatility of a Cleric in terms of survivability and variety in magic, and Wizard has the highest optimization ceiling in the game, to the point where surviving to level 7ish with a reasonable amount of downtime can make you indestructible.
I've been out of the loop for a while, how did Hell's Vengeance end up overall?
So /pfg/ I'm playing a game where we are some of the first 1,670 creatures to come into existence, in a primordial first plane (with strong Words of Power and Primal Magic).
It is possible to force the environment into magic items, and with good luck, even artifacts. My character is planning on building an artifact to craft planes and create life, because the current life is incapable of reproducing and will likely die out after 1,000 years/when the maelstrom sucks us back into nothingness.
SO THE QUESTION
How would you improve the Pathfinder cosmology and afterlife system?
Think of it from the perspective of a Lawful Good Creator Deity who accepts that law, chaos, evil and good must exist to certain amounts out of a cosmic requirement, but refuses to let evil win, or affect a great many people.
>>48199318
>>48199336
Good with the illegitimacy, the fuckers rely on media coverage and people talking about them. People shouldn't give them the time of day. Also, they'll be solidly CE because they give no fucks to anyone and do whatever they feel like. Fuck the lot of them. Preferrably with nukes from orbit.
>>48199315
Wizards need to have d4.
>>48199315
Well, actually its a 3.5 game.
>>48199371
I excluded the druid because I'd like to do an urban character, and because I remember extremely well the druid in my old group being annoyingly overpoweredand, and stealing the scene to others players like he used is something I really don't like to do
>>48199499
I guarantee you that the OP druid was just being played well, and any wizard or cleric can be as much or more powerful.
Also, you can absolutely play an urban druid. I would encourage the concept, even.
If you're a wizard, arcanist, psychic refer to pic related. Yes or very yes?
Oh, and it'll be moderate to extreme.
>>48199499
Urban druids are amazing, plus in 3.5 your animal companion is pretty much as good or better than a Fighter, so you can cover two roles in the party at once.
>>48199587
How often would this happen, and how much San do you start with?
>>48199215
Chaotic Evil is described as 'drawn to atrocity by way of passion', so I'd assume that.
Hello, how would you build pic related?
>>48199587
Making broken stuff not-fun to play isn't balancing the game. Poor half and 2/3 casters.
>>48199160
Good job ignoring all previous discussion.
And you can stop posting that picture, you know. You've posted it three times in as many threads.
>>48199625
Well, she's pretty much Lamashtu, isn't she?
>>48199215
CE all the way. Maybe some people actually believe in the laws they use, but the organization as a whole, no.
Having tweaked it a bit, I return with the Veilweaving Kineticist option: the Essence Dancer! Now with both 20% less bullshit on losing class features as well as 100% more on-time than the Akashic Mysteries PDF! Dig into it and bite down with your critiques please, /pfg/!
http://pastebin.com/47FtVyUHAkasha not looking like anything and kineticist being "does magic" makes finding art for this thing really tricky.
>>48199587
How would most spellcasters even last long enough to get into the higher levels? Might as well stop it at level 3, those are the dangerous mages who are barely clinging on to sanity but haven't died yet.
>>48199606
You'll be starting off with a sanity score = your Wisdom score multiplied by 5 (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/campaigns/sanity.htm#startingSanity).
Sanity is reduced every time the caster casts a spell.
>>48199635
For the time being only wizards, arcanists and psychics.
>>48199646
Are you a furry, because you sound like one. Or someone whose jimmies are easily rustled.
>>48199708
It's unplayble. If you don't want people to play those classes then just ban them.
>>48199479
>How would you improve the Pathfinder cosmology and afterlife system?
Make it very much unknown and unknowable. Make the Gods and all the cosmology enignmatic, and make it so that even the few gods that do communicate with mortals don't even know anything.
This is DOUBLY sure for the afterlife. It makes it more compelling for people to develop specific philosophies about life, death, and such things.
There must be room for both Doubt and Faith, for without needing to think on such existential issues ourselves, how else may we sculpt ourselves in wisdom?
Basically, just make it slightly more fantastical than Real Life
>>48199677
>>48199736
You're manipulating energies mortals were not meant to be meddle with, comparable to the Warp from 40k.
>>48199764
But what about the other classes that do that.
Why Wizards and Arcanists but not Sorcerers and Witches?
Why Psychics and not Psions?
>>48199764
Then just ban the classes from players. Not that the excuse is even consistent what with sorcerers and witches still able to cast fine.
>>48199731
I'm annoyed by incessant weebs going on about their 'human with animal ears' waifus..
>>48199646
>/pfg/ only has one poster.
>OK.
>>48199397
Amazing.
Tons of player choice, multiple solutions to conflicts, good NPCs that don't steal the spotlight, no DMPCs to speak of, Hellknights, stats for Abrogail so we can waifu her.
I rank it as one of the best APs.
>>48199803
>>48199794
Where the fuck do you think you are?
This is a goddamn imageboard. Why the fuck are you here?
>>48199764
Eh, as far as tampering with forces man was never meant to harness goes, I like the Dark Sun approach. Humans aren't made to use magic, so the more magic you have, the less human you become, until eventually you turn into a dragon, or an elemental, or whatever that thing preservers turn into is.
>>48199803
Was it? I honestly didn't hear a lot about the later books-the first couple were pretty middling (with a few downright laughable encounters here and there).
>>48199825
You're waifu is shit and so are you!
>>48199829
>Until you turn into a dragon, or an elemental...
But anonnnnn, that's even cooler than the defaulttttt
>>48199819
Fuck you, I Am The Law.
>>48199829
The encounters were pretty shit, but Paizo has no idea how balance works. I rank APs on theme, player agency, content and story. I re-stat pretty much everything anyway.
>>48199783
Sorcerers and witches are less gamebreaking, so they're not as bad.
Psions would suffer similarly to psychics however.
The scales will now range from low san loss to extreme san loss, depending on how forbidden magic is.
>>48199829
That sort of implies that people are supposed to want to STAY human.
>>48199829
No every human in Dark Sun uses Psionics(in fact not being able to use Psionics in Dark Sun is abnormal), it's just Arcane and Divine Magic that sap the life out of everything. There are a few sorcerer god kings that still use arcane magic, life be damned that are working to become dragons by mastering magic.
>>48199872
>Sorcerers and witches are less gamebreaking, so they're not as bad.
So it has to do with class balance, in which case just ban the classes. Stop putting in stupid unplayable rules just to discourage players.
>>48199872
>Psions would suffer similarly to psychics however.
Why, they're about on par with Sorcerers.
>>48199803
Don't you kill Iomedae's gold dragon fuckbuddy and use his soul and skull to create a powerful siege weapon?
>>48199892
>what is mythos incantations?
>>48199907
Yes.
>>48199907
This makes me sad.
Gold dragon fuckbuddies are top tier.
>>48199926
>Gold dragon fuckbuddies are top tier.
I thought copper dragon genki brown-girls were best.
Silver dragon proper ladies make the best wives though.
>>48199911
>It's okay to make playing a class suffering because they're supposed to be powerful
Let's just ignore that sorcerers are just as broken power-wise as wizards, just less so in versatility.
>>48199844
This is my waifu.
>you're
I keked.
>>48199912
>>48199926
Could you give a little more detail?
I don't know anything that happens in Hell's Vengeance after Book 3.Are there any proper waifus in the later Books, like characters they explicitly mention are romantic options?
>>48199939
Aren't Gold Dragons all the stuck-up LG Paladin-types? Doesn't seem like the best for banging.
>>48199966
Book 4 should be in the trove, brah.
You get to see Abby's stats.
>>48199974
Indeed they are, they're also the most Machiavellian, very much the "Father Knows Best" type.
Silver > Copper = Brass > Bronze > Gold
>>48199939
Well, we did address the value of long-term relationships with silvers, and having fun with copper genki tomboys.
I suppose golds would make for good friends, who you can hang out with, and occasionally bang. More romantic friend than fuckbuddy, I suppose. Fuckbuddy is more for coppers.
>>48199999
Copper and brass dragons are just the college party types of the draconic world. They'll fuck shit up in a good way.
>>48199974
Don't you want topetyour local Paladin, anon?
>>48199961
Jaheira best
Gimme dem sort of milf tits
>>48199961
Well, one of those is your half-sister, and another is a TN bossypants.
And I never really saw Aerie as a potential romance. Too much of a kid sister vibe.
>>48199939
>Silver dragon proper ladies make the best wives though.
They're literally Targaryens, anon.
>>48200027
No.
Oh fuck no one told me they made a book with my waifu-monster on the cover
Book of the year and I haven't even looked at the other pages yet
>>48200027
You're thinking of the Skinwalker barbarian, anon.
Remember to give your Witchwolf headpats for a battle well won.
>>48200077
>Book of the year and I haven't even looked at the other pages yet
Sounds like it's probably the only way to keep it book of the year.
>>48195602
No information gained from seeing those "egregious creeps" has proven otherwise in relation to other furries, and saying "only the noticeable ones are defining this community" is like saying "you're only judging a book by its cover", but there's no pages, just the cover in all its shitty glory.
>>48200060
...no, they're not
They're the chivalrous, protective, honourable dragon.
>>48200065
>>48200082
Whoa, whoa. Since when does /pfg/ not want to pet shy, sexually-repressed paladins?
>>48200077
how often do you run into Empyreal Angels to make them your waifu-monster?
Also, there is a unique Empyreal with a new Paragon type, I think he can become an enormous gold dragon
My waifu a best!
>>48200112
Gross
Headpat needs to be made into a skill.
>>48200104
>Whoa, whoa. Since when does /pfg/ not want to pet shy, sexually-repressed paladins?
Why is the Paladin shy and why are they sexually-repressed?
Furthermore, petting most people is pretty weird, especially if they don't seem like the types that enjoy physical contact.
>>48200133
Because oath of chastity. Never putting a person before the cause of evil being defeated.
It doesn't mean they don't enjoy contact, if anything, they need calming support more than most.
>>48200092
Don't do this to me anon
>>48200104
More like I wish I ran into them.
>>48200125Companion to the Lonely
>>48200102
>No information gained from seeing those "egregious creeps" has proven otherwise in relation to other furries, and saying "only the noticeable ones are defining this community" is like saying "you're only judging a book by its cover", but there's no pages, just the cover in all its shitty glory.
Fucking this.
Every furry I've spoken to in private is every bit as creepy and awkward as the outspoken ones. You're forced to choose between getting paired up with a loud freaky weirdo or a quiet awkward weirdo that turns into a loud freaky weirdo when you help them out of their fetid shell.
>>48200112
>diet coke with bacon.
Now I'm a red blooded American who eats bacon with everything, unfortunatelythat probably is going to be like a worse version of Vanilla Coke.
>>48200155
>they need calming support more than most.
They literally have an aura that makes them immune to fear.
>>48200163
/tg/ probably isn't a good place for you
>>48200169
Hey, it can't be worse thanbacon vodka. That shit tastes like bacon grease and nothing else.
>>48200125
Get to writing then, fucker.
>>48200162
More than that.
>>48200163
>fetid shell.
I loled, more because it also has furry connotations even if you weren't intending to.
>>48200182
Being a paragon of humanity is a stressful job, anon.
>>48200182
Doesn't make them immune to all mental problems though
>>48200169
I like vanilla coke...
>>48200082
How many parties even have Witchwolves? What classes are they?
>>48200192
Ugh, why'd you have to remind me? It's not just that it tastes like bacon grease, it's that it tastes like BURNT bacon grease. Everyone involved in opening the bottle I tried agreed it was a terrible idea.
>>48200182
Just because you can stare into the deepest pits of the Abyss without flinching doesn't mean you can't enjoy a nice hug once in a while.
>>48200214
Initiating Fighter.
>>48200214
We've got a Witchwolf in the Land of the Linnorm Kings campaign, she's a badass Myrmidon Viking.
>>48199961
Funny how this is brought up when im playing BG2. Viconia is top tier waifu.
>>48195181
You people are waifuing a sapient wolf?
>>48200077
>>48200157
did they finally make the Book of Exalted Deeds for Pathfinder?
>>48200232
When it comes to bacon flavored anything, that stuff is always what comes to my mind. And the worst part? It has that greasy fucking texture to it too; I appreciate that with cake and bubblegum vodkas, but it was gut wrenching with bacon.
>>48200238
>>48200206
>>48200205
Good thing Paladins also get Divine Grace, which is pretty much god's tiny voice telling them everything's going to be okay, filling them with invigorating life proportional to their charisma.
And yes, it makes them immune to all mental problems related to fear or anxiety. The text is very specific on this.
>At 3rd level, a paladin is immune to fear (magical or otherwise). Each ally within 10 feet of her gains a +4 morale bonus on saving throws against fear effects.
>>48200260
No, it's literally just a description of one of the celestial planes.
>>48200207
I do too, anon.Though vanilla Dr Pepper is better.
>>48200260
>>48200157
Heaven Unleashed, it's in the trove.
>>48199961
Do you not know how numbers work?
>>48200291
Not all mental problems fall under the heading of fear-related.
>>48200255
Horo is basically a giant wolf.
Greta is also a giant wolf.
>>48200255
Her name is Greta. She's a stronk !notRussian guardswoman who wants to settle down and find someone to spend her life with.She's also a winter wolf, but she likes being human. Living in the Howlings means she can change form, but she'd prefer a way to make it stick.
>>48200317
Horo can take a mostly human form at least, that's in her favor.
No clue who Greta is, so you'd have to tell me about that one.
>>48200326
And what's that from? I've been out of the loop for about two years at this point.
>>48200326and have something stick in her
>>48200163
Or you could do the thing any reasonable, sensible adult would do and fucking /avoid/ them. Under what circumstances have you been forced to spend time with a furry?Show us on the doll where they touched you
>>48200242
>>48200241
Same character?
>>48200335
Greta is >>48200326 who is one of the main /pfg/ waifus, which also includes Arushelae (aka Succubutt), Trinia Sabor, and others on occasion. She's from Reign of Winter.
>>48200291
Even if that covered all mental health problems, being a paladin is still a harder job to actually live than any other class.
Their powers and life are dependent on making the right choices, according to their code. Only clerics are similar, but they don't have codes of conduct, only codes of not doing things your god would hate.
>>48200338
Ohohoho~
>>48200255
This is /tg/, we'll waifu anything that's sapient and sassy.
>>48200335
Wrath of the Righteous, considered to be one of /pfg/'s favorite APs because of all the curazy nonesense that happens.
Also because Baba Yaga is sick, and who doesn't want the opportunity to murder Rasputin?
>>48200338
