http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/eldritch-moon
So now that we know the entire set, what are your top 3 cards and what cards do you think will impact Standard and/or Modern the most?
Top 3 cards:
-Bedlam Reveler. Seems like it has potential in Legacy with U/R Delver
-Liliana, the Last Hope. She's very powerful in a G/B Delirium shell. Her -2 is card advantage and her +1 protects her early game.
-Grim Flayer. In conjunction with Liliana, he's seriously brutal. T2 Grim Flayer into T3 Liliana +1 gets him past Sylvan Advocate and he makes Delirium really easy to achieve
Other random cards that I like:
-Desperate Sentry. with Delirium he'll be a 4/2 and trade with just about anything. Spot removal is negative card advantage against this guy and he can survive board wipes.
-Faith Unbroken. Pretty brutal card and I can see it swinging games
-Fortune's Favor. Seems like a fun Fact or Fiction variant
-Spell Queller. Other more astute observers noticed that it has the Oblivion Ring version of exile, so you can bounce it while the second ability is on the stack to actually permanently exile spells!
Grim Flayer - Completely shifted my opinion on Liliana and makes for a brutal beater in tandem with advocate
Emrakul - Works in bigger delirium or ramp strategies, great with traverse
Whispers of Emrakul- Not convinced that you can t3 (let alone t2) it reliably, but the effect is so powerful that it is worth testing
>>48177465
You picked 3 good ones.
Bedlam reveler is my favorite. Pic Related looks pretty damn good as well.
What is the best place to pre-order? (UK)
>>48178158
I was leaning away from getting a box, but damn
/tg/ being triggered and whining about "sjw pandering" in one... two...
>Humans get more really good support: the block
God dammit.
>>48178219
that's a reprint from original innistrad
>>48178207
Why would /tg/ complain about gay rape? If anything we should have more rape in Magic cards.
>>48178219
Flavor text was much better in his first printing.
>>48178207
Only thing that triggers me is that this is almost a directly worse sign in blood and there is zero reason to run this when read the bones costs the same and lets you scry.
>>48178264
this is an instant
>>48178207
>>48178274
>>48178264
It's not bad, if you have the mana base for it.
>>48178274
Is instant speed really worth that extra 1 though?
>>48177465
Favorites:
Docent of Perfection
Providence
Grapple with the past
Impacting cards, only for the constructed format I play.
>Standard
Gisela, the Broken Blade
Eldritch Evolution
Tamito
>Modern
Bedlam Reveler
Eldritch Evolution
Stunning Growth (that's a maybe)
>Duel Commander
Way too many, which is nice.
>>48178303
yes, in a control deck you want to be able to hold up an answer and if they don't play anything you can pull ahead in card advantage
>>48178303
Yes.
Yes, it is.
TFW a boat explodes out of your chest.
>>48178322
Emerge decks in Limited are going to be fun.
>no rare land cycle
>no dual lands of any kind
>>48177465
>Tamiyo
>Deploy the Gatewatch
>Thalia
Superfriends, here we come.
>>48178337
Small set.
>>48178358
Small? This shit is MICROSCOPICalso how will packaging work? If it's the same as last time, then getting two halves of a melder is gonna be a pain in the ass to do
>>48178322
Fortress Crab sure grew up.
>>48178410
>grew up
>/5 instead of /6
notthickenough
>>48178337
This shits me too. Almost overshadows the great Spirits.
I hate small sets.
Kaladesh can't come soon anough.
>>48178207
>>48178207
Why would I ever complain about something that looks like it could come straight out of Interview with the Vampire?
>>48177465
Ahem
>Pay to win card games
>>48178207
Oh my!why is he wearing pants
>>48178480
All card games are pay to win, it just depends how much you have to pay.
Let's keep an eye on the future and stop living in the past. What can we expect from Kaladesh and what color/s will this planeswalker be? Her name is Saheeli Rai. I think she will either be W/U or W/U/R.
>Kaladesh (first glimpsed in Magic Origins as the birthplane of Chandra Nalaar) is an ethnically diverse plane where natural mages are rare. Work that would be done with magic on other planes is instead accomplished through devices. The automatons, thopters and other artifact creatures of the plane are fueled by aether, which is heavily trafficked. Artifacts are built as much for beauty as for function. Fire magic is strictly banned, and pyromancy punishable with a death sentence. Kaladesh is ruled by Consuls. Their forces and works are nearly omnipresent.
>>48178493
>want to look forward to Kaladesh
>It's been told that the Gatewatch are going to show up again
>Can't get that negativity out of my mind
Flaying tendrils is going to be a great sideboard card against thopter city because Virulent Plague is rotating.
>>48178488
Poker too?
>>48178493
>What can we expect from Kaladesh and what color/s will this planeswalker be? Her name is Saheeli Rai.
Dunno, but she's pretty cute. Look at that hopeful and determined expression!
>>48178493
It's pretty obvious she's going to be UR with artifact love
Ironically, this ONLY loses to doom blade. Also the art is absolutely gorgeous!
Don't knock the spider legend yet /tg/. Kaladesh thopters are 1/1's unlike every other brand, and we know how out of hand thopters can get.
>>48178565
>Don't knock the spider legend yet /tg/.
Dude, no, it's shit.
>>48178581
Not nearly as bad as Ulrich.
At least the spider can act as a sink for infinite mana combos.
>>48178303
I'd love to make my turn 3 land drop and pass with a removal spell/counter magic and this thing in hand.
If my opponent doesn't do much I get to just draw two cards at their end step
So is this just better than Fiery Impulse?
Your second Fiery Impulse has a chance to not hit for 3 while your second bombardment always will.
>>48178511
It's been officially confirmed by MaRo that the Gatewatch will play a major role in every block from now on.
>>48178697
No, it's been confirmed by Maro that the Gatewatch will APPEAR in every block from now.
>>48178697
>>48178720
He's also said new Planeswalkers could join the Gatewatch and "The Gatewatch are involved in every block" may not necessarily mean the Origins 5
My bet is on this new Kaladesh chick joining
>>48178679
The biggest difference is whether or not you can imagine going to the dome with it or not.
If your deck wants reach, Fiery Impulse will usually still be better.
>>48178762
Neither go to the dome, I'm talking purely on their power as removal spells since...I don't think we have any 1 mana to the dome burn right now.
>>48178679
So is this just better than Mana Leak?
Your second Mana Leak will never read "counter unless they pay 4" but your second snag always will.
>>48178551
No way. We already have an established UR planeswalker. Ral Zarek. He is also fairly popular and is a rather important cahracter on the most popular plane so we will see him again, that's a given. Probably in the next 3-5 years.
>>48178519
You literally have to pay to have a chance to win a game.
>>48178720
And I quote-
>Should we expect to see at least one member of the Gatewatch play an active role in every block going forward, or will we still see stories involving only 'side' planeswalkers like KTK did?
>At least one member of the Gatewatch will play an active role.
>>48178790
Wait why isn't this used over Mana Leak
Every time I see coverage and someone draws a Mana Leak late game they're like "Oh man that sucks"
>>48178776
My bad, I only ever see the card compared to kindle and went on autopilot.
I think Fiery Impulse is better unless you're playing a very creature heavy deck and just have a couple burn spells as token removal.
>>48178738
She probably will, as the first dual color fence starer.I wanted more weremilf, goddamn it
>>48178207
Winona Nelson always does hot boy shit. Remember these fucks?
>>48178941
and this.
>>48178816
Which means absolutely nothing, as absolutely every set since alara had lots of planeswalkers in an active role and basically mora than half of them already had one of the origin five.
Do you seriously think that a block set on Kaladesh won't have Chandra involvement, Gatewatch or not?
Minds dilation and mirrorwing are great. Dilation going straight into my brains tides control deck.
Plenty of shit for my gitrog edh deck and probably going to make a standard deck full of triskadeabipboopbopbadiddlydoobopaphobiboo tree of perdition and other janky win cons for standard as well.
Definitely some fun stuff in this set.
>>48178900
what happened to her?
>>48179033
Just the second rune snag is already more powerful than the second mana leak. It's not like you need several in the grave for it to be better.
>>48178823
Mana Leak is stronger earlier and mid game. Much weaker late game when both players have strong mana bases.
Rune snag is significantly weaker early game and even possibly mid game. The potential for it to be strong is there but it also requires a bunch of rune snags in the grave which means you also have less chances to effectively use it.
Mana Leak is just a better rounded counter spell that sucks late game, Rune Snag is a pretty weak counter with potential to be strong but you have to work for it by slimming your chances to use it.
>>48179047
There's also the liability of being a graveyard target. if you counter and they respond with exiling your shit from the grave you are stuck on a weaker mana leak again.
I don't dislike it but Mana Leak gets around a lot of Rune Snag's flaws by being pretty generic.
>>48179078
Yeah I guess it doesn't play well with snapcaster or dig through time either.
>>48178604
As someone who has a casual spider deck, I'll stick up for the spider. The hardest part about spiders is closing out the game; they're better at sitting back on defense than pushing through damage. Even if the activated ability is expensive, it gives you a way to get rid of those last few bits of life.
>>48178207
He's offering him some of that sweet vampire making potion. Remember the last set? He needs a new boy toy/inheritor.
>>48178985
Her and her chin were forgotten about like nature intended.
>>48179122
It NEEDS delirium to be worth it though.
I guess Nyx Weaver is a huge help with that.
>>48178941
>>48178965
>>48179127
It must be pretty good to have a job where you get told a theme and get to go draw the smut you like around it.
>>48178965
That goblin never fails to make me laugh
>>48177577
>comes down turn four
>but it's okay guys she can protect herself before that!
>>48178219
If only it had flash
>>48177465
New Mini-Baneslayer will likely be a 4-of in most GW decks in standard.
>>48178207
That's hot tho
>>48178480
Some of us enjoy getting friends together to buy a box and throw jank at each other over beers anon
>>48178807
You do realize we can have more than one walker in the same color right? Domri existed before Kord
I'm really excited for mirrorwing dragon. Should be a lot of fun to play with.
>>48178207
Only thing to complain about here is the wonky perspective.
>>48177465
>Most likely to impact modern
Unsubstantiate
Eldritch Evolution
Grim Flayer
>Most likely to impact Standard
Tamiyo, Field Researcher
Murder
Gisela, the Broken Blade
I think I like this card for my mono-green stompy deck but the sorcery speed is a real turn-off.
Still, it might allow for some fun plays doing things like saccing my servant of the scale, getting a counter on another guy, and tutoring up anything from avatar of the resolute to deathmist raptor
>>48178807
Fuck I hope we see Ral Zarek soon he's my favorite. Unfortunately due to his character it's highly unlikely we'd ever see him off of Ravnica so yeah we gotta wait to return the entire plane to see him again
>>48178807
Do you seriously think they'll let a cishet white male hog the spotlight away from loli technical support?
They literally retconned the whole eldrazi capture storyline to make Sorin a villain. Ral will be a bitch and the cause for whatever conflict we see when we return to Ravnica and he will be imprisoned or killed just like Sorin, Garruk, Venser and any white male who isn't Jacey Mouse.
>>48178493
>inb4 Aether is a misnomer for poo
>and all the artifacts that being powered by the Arther are the loo
>>48179234
She was literally asked to make him hunky as fuck and put a sexuality-questioning goblin in.
>>48178823
the main reason is that most decks don't want a full playset of mana leak, it also has anti synergies with snapcaster and delve
When does dragons rotate? I want this for my u/w spirits but don't want to waste money.
>>48180138
When Kaladesh comes out.
>>48178565
It also loses to anything that destroys flyers.
>>48178493
the part that irritates me most about that is that 'ethnically diverse' is a selling point. it's tokenist pandering in all the worst ways
>>48180677
>moooom, there are black people in my card game!!!
TOP THREE:
>Bedlam Reveler. Seems decent across most formats, should always be cast for RR
>Grim Flayer. Super super pushed Delirium 2 drop for standard
>hurr Emrakul. Pretty reasonable finisher for both ramp and Delirium strategies in standard. Even something like B/W Control could play this because it would at least be about 9 mana.
People are sleeping on the card tier:Legendary Spider
>>48180677
They're just writing in a reason why Chandra, a redheaded white girl can be from totally-not-India.
>>48178347
>deploy the gatewatch
Literally unplayable
>>48178493
>Rai is a common name among Kshatriya of Tulu Nadu, noted for practicing a rare form of matrilineal inheritance
Hm. I thought we weren't doing historical/cultural accuracy after Kamigawa?
>>48180762
I don't see why it's a problem. There are black people and Asians on Innistrad, despite it being set in 18th century Germany with vampires and bigger wolves.
>>48178976
>Do you seriously think that a block set on Kaladesh won't have Chandra involvement, Gatewatch or not?
Calling it now, Chandra brings the jacetice league to her home because they have the best artificers in the multiverse and their goal is to fix Liliana's veilthen they do and she betrays them
>>48177465
>Take Inventory
I feel for a Common it's really powerful. It's a not-cantrip if you were to initially play it, a cheap Divination when you play it a second time, an expensive sorcery-speed Ancestral Recall a third time, and just straight value a fourth. If you were running ways to cycle through your deck rapidly and can feed your grave with at least one copy it's automatically tuned to be a valuable card. Scour the Library is a close second in the place of best blue card draw in the set.
>Emrakul's Influence
It looks and feels like a total fucking meme, but with Emerge as a mechanic it could net serious value. There are 10 different Emerge spells ripe for the picking, and they're all impactful enough to be worth playing. It mostly will depend on their relevance in the meta and if they're worth playing, so the ability for it to shape Standard will mostly rely on the relevance of Emerge cards. Considering how the landscape is much more focused on cheap creatures, humans, and tokens, it might not see play until the rotation of DtK and Origins.
>Grim Flayer
As a mythic it feels as much of a meme as any, but that simply has to do with it's abilities. If you haven't had enough of Ojutai you'll love this reversed version that only gets killed by Grasp exactly when you have delirium and allows you to willingly feed your graveyard, all while having a more ground-friendly ability. And for 2 whole mana, what's not to like? But in all seriousness, he's great for picking out things you don't want and forcing Delirium in your favor. It will see play in GB Delirium lists, for sure. I'm willing to argue it has a place in Dredge decks too.
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>>48179479
>durr what colors is a werewolf planeswalker gonna be that people have been asking for since the first Innistrad set?
Of course they were gonna give one to us and of course it's gonna be RG. Kord was pure pandering.
My guess for the Kaladesh chick is RWU.
>>48180138
>$5 dollars for a plays etc
>expensive
Get out of this fucking game right now if that's too steep for you. I just spent 300 dollars picking up reserved list staples for my cubes before shillkeli buys them all up and burns them.
>>48181128
Playset*
A gift for pauper?
>>48178303
the answer is literally always yes
>new set going to be shitskins centered and jacetice league will make public announcements to the "people" to start using their fancy flying loos
Well fuck that's only slightly better than another 2 years of eldrazi
>>48178207
demons/vampires being lustful sinners is hardly SWJ. Quite the contrary
>>48181898
Except in the second set where the Eldrazi come back and start corrupting the loos. Jace is able to obliterate all the Eldrazi on Kaladesh by using his spirit tri-beam attack
Then the people of Kaladesh learn that they don't need loos or robots
>>48178493
>Red magic is banned and users are hunted and executed just for existing
>Artifacts are used instead o magic
Kaladesh is going to be weird and I hope its a bottom up set. I really want to see them handle this well.
>>48178493
So what's the backstory of Kaladesh?
Did a fire mage invent the toilet or something?
>>48182033
>First set featuring no instants or sorceries.
>only artifacts and big fat creatures
>wizards announcement says this is the best selling set ever
>they have moved instants and sorceries to be printed only at mythic rarity to keep the game fun
>expect them to phase out noncreature/planeswalker spells by 2020
>>48181176
Damn this is a really good card.
>>48178207
Truly, black is best at drawing cards.
>>48179848
You likely would have cast whatever you get with it at sorcery speed anyway. I wouldn't sweat it.
>>48182132
>phasing out planeswalkers
>ever
Nope if anything they would phase about everything but creatures and planeswalkers so you can live out wotc's dream of playing unga bunga midrange forever
>>48179904
>Implying Ral wasn't always a bitch
Why do people unironicly like that weaselly little fuck again?
>>48177465
>what are your top 3 cards
Pic related, just some cool shit. Fuck that exile clause though.
Spirit tribe also got some great additions, but I don't plan to run that deck.
![en_2rGZDu8fEd[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Qlh7O7y.png "en_2rGZDu8fEd[1].png")
This card disappoints me. It would have been such a fun card to play with if it was good. But it's so overcosted.
Should have cost 1u, or uu.
>>48182398
I feel like this might end up better than it looks. Worse case scenario you get cards for 4 mana at instant speed, and in some cases you can even draw 3 or that 1 card you really needed. The rest end up in your graveyard which isn't a bad place to be.
>>48182398
>Should have cost 1u, or uu
Also: hahaha NO. "1U: Draw two cards" shouldn't be a thing
>>48182515
Works for black. Instead of paying life, you have to play mind games with your opponent to get the best cards.
3CMC is the highest it can go IMO.
>>48182398
All this really needed was for it to be the top 5 cards. Then it would still be strictly worse than FoF but playable.
So, will we be able to build a WR Eldrazi horror tokens deck?
It looks like it might just work.
>>48178207
>>48178244
I thought after Innistrad 1.0 they weren't going to do cards with rape depictions? Or was the rule just no female victims?
>>48178207
You are a very transparent person and nobody actually likes you.
>>48178207
What, rapey gay guys?
I'm all for that.
>>48178493
So basically it's a set with Chandra at the forefront, and it's going to devolve into an "overthrow the Consuls" plotline with "how dare you discriminate against Magic" bullshit.
My least favourite character taking center stage in yet another "shit all over an existing culture" plotline.
>>48178158
>24 for lilly the last garbage
Fucking standard shitters
>>48183806
The worst part is that the Gatewatch, from a third party's perspective, would definitely be the antagonists in that entire plot. The entire plane is full of extremely frail machines and shit, living in what seems like an age of huge prosperity and general public happiness. Even after Chandra and her parents had to hide in the countryside they still seemed to have had a decent life there.
Sure, their measures against pyromancy, even if accidental, are ridiculously extreme, but things are like that for a reason since they definitely wouldn't want any moron to go around and accidentally blow up some powerplant and fuck an entire city over. There is literally no reasonable excuse to force "FIRE IS GOOD" onto the plane when it's the biggest danger for the entire plane's lifestyle and society, just for the sake of helping a handful of rebels that want to burn things n shit.
Instead, the most reasonable thing would be for all of Kaladesh's biggest artificers to try and figure out how to make extraplanar travel with the help of a planeswalker possible, similar to Venser's or Phyexia's ships, and just ship all pyromancers that pop up over to Regatha every now and then to keep their supply of new recruits going, spare some unnecessary bloodshed and at the same time keep Kaladesh's artifact-society safe and from blowing up.
>>48182212
He was talking about phasing out spells that weren't creatures or planeswalkers, ie sorcery instant enchantment etc
>>48178965
>>48179254
>>48178158
>people buying Gisela
Wew
>>48178207
So far no one has complained about it and you're the only one who said "SJW."
Not from around here are you... /pol/!
>>48180677
>visited countless planes where humans live among elves, centaurs, spirits, dragons, and other races
>having saturday morning cartoon ethic group is somehow noteworthy
>>48181128
>its 5 dollars
>rotates tomorrow
>not a waste of money
sure its hypothetical but a waste is a waste. also what the fuck is a cube
>>48179479
>>48178807
>>48178551
>>48178493
There are:
11 monowhite walkers
10 monoblue walkers
7 monoblack walkers
10 monored walkers
9 monogreen walkers
2 WR walkers
4 RG walkers (5 including both Arlin sides)
2 WU walkers
1 WG walker
3 BG walkers (including flipped Garruk)
2 BU walkers
2 UG walkers
3 WB walkers (all Sorin)
2 UR walkers
0 BR walkers
1 Temur walker
1 Bant walker
1 Grixis walker
2 Colorless walkers
Color breakdown of the last three blocks for planeswalker color:
Khans:
Narset (WU)
Sarkhan Unbroken (URG)
Other Sarkhan (R)
Sorin (WB)
Ugin ()
Black is underrepresented
BfZ:
Chandra (R)
Gideon (W)
Kiora (UG)
Nissa (G)
Ob Nixilis (B)
Blue the least represented color
SoI:
Arlinn (RG)
Sorin (WB)
Nahiri (WR)
Jace (U)
Liliana (B)
Tamiyo (WUG)
Biased a bit towards white, otherwise balanced
Taking this all into account, it's possible for her to to be UR, WU, or WUR, though I'm leaning towards WU because Wizards just did a tricolor planeswalker (Tamiyo) and they space those out and also because she doesn't look R at all. We haven't had a blue focused planeswalker block in a bit, so this might be that one. I'm really interested as to how they'll put the G planeswalker into the set, as G seems like it would be very rare on a plane like this. Chandra is going to be the R of the set for sure, R may be the "deficient" color of the set.
tldr: She's going to be W/U because of her art and the plane's probable U bias.
>>48182110
Izzet "an entire plane" edition basically
>>48178493
>Kaladesh
If it is an artifact plane expect a visit from the phyrexians to fuck their shit up.
I expect Chandra to save India from the Phyrexian Armada and have Pyromancers be accepted in return, so they become a hippy society, and beat the phyrexians with piss (or poo) and love fueled tree hugging robots... which means Phyrexians will have to job as badly as the Eldrazi so the planeswalker kids look good.
>>48185283
>0 BR walkers
Incorrect. Sarkhan the Mad is BR.
>>48185591
Oh shit, forgot him. Anything else I missed?
>>48185620
Nope, everything else looks correct. Good job, friend.
![thermoalchemist[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HwBLjWF.jpg "thermoalchemist[1].jpg")
So... Guttersnipe for 1 less mana? At common? Sounds pretty good to me.
>>48186112
Guttersnipe does 2, doesn't require tapping, works from the turn you summon him, can attack, and hits each opponent.
>>48186112
It's more like a Gelectrode that can't hit creatures.
>>48181176
>optimal 1 mana for a 3/2
>>48185031
>rotates tomorrow
>5 dollars FOR A PLAYSET is too much
I want retarded poorfags to leave.
Dragons rotates until Kaladesh arrives.
And EM is playable on tournaments until 2 weeks.
How the fuck are you so fucking ignorant?
Thalia seems promising for D&T strategies. Knocking lands and blockers back a turn is no small thing. I'm probably just going to stick her in my Hero's Blade deck, which is incidentally getting another pickup in the form of Sigarda's Aid. I have some hope that it's powerful enough for older formats, but I have nothing to back that statement up with yet.
I like Geier Reach Sanitarium might be overlooked right now, but it's potentially very good in Eternal hatebear strategies, especially if it involves Spirit of the Labyrinth. It's also going to be a mandatory enabler for Madness in any deck using that strategy (if one comes to exist, which it might with a Wild Mongrel in Standard).
Eternal Scourge could give Food Chain decks a shot in the arm by being Misthallow Griffins 4-8.
Selfless Spirit seems potentially amazing in any Aether Vial decks that get set to 2, like Merfolk. This guy flashing in to save your team could be a huge blowout. Also, my fun combo is to enchant him with Gift of Immortality.
My pick for sleeper hit? Providence. It seems like it could potentially be a huge shot in the arm for Soul Sisters strategies if they can have 6 free life to start the game with, as well as a late-game recovery spell.
>>48180820
Let him dream.
Personally, I think if you're doing Superfriends, the only way to go is Doubling Season. 3-mana Ajani explodes into 40 cats if you haven't lost any health.
Of course, you have to ramp like hell to do it in any meaningful fashion, and it's never gonna be really competitive. But it is very fun to be getting Ral Zarek's extra turns and then using them to Ugin out everything else you have. Vraska makes 6 insta-death tokens.
>Emerge-drazis + Birthing Pod in Meren EDH
I can't pick three single cards. There's so much in this set that has the potential to be relevant, maybe even good, in constructed (be it standard or modern)
We got:
Emerge cards (Elder Deep Fiend, Distended Mindbender)
Great additions for spirit tribal (Mausoleum Wanderer, Spell Queller)
Bedlam Reveler
Eldritch Evolution
Memerakul (mindslavers are good)
Tamiyo
Liliana
Lone Rider (soul sisters? Plus the synergy with o-command is super good)
Grim Flayer for delirium, plus a couple solid delirium cards (gnarlwood dryad anyone?)
Kessig Prowler potentially for Mono Green Stompy
Harmless Offering (okay maybe not that powerful but it's an effect that I've wanted in modern for a while)
A whole bunch of more humans nonsense for standard
Plus there's a bunch of stuff that could be decent, but aren't as likely to be as good as cards mentioned above. Plenty of madness enablers, cryptbreaker for zambambo tribal, hymn to tourach delirium edition,and maybe robo wolf for hellbent affinity (really a stretch)
plus there's probably shit I'm forgetting. Lots of good stuff this set
>>48187298
Speaking of forgetting things, I forgot the new Thalia, which is also super fucking good
>>48186780
How exactly do emerge eldrazi synergize in any way with birthing Pod?
>>48187462
A big ass critter that you can get out early that you can sacrifice for an even bigger critter, I guess.
>>48187490
emerge eldrazi and birthing pod are literally as anti synergistic as possible
not only do you have to sac creatures you would have liked to sac to birthing pod in order to cast the emerge eldrazi, you also can't birthing pod into the emerge eldrazi because their cast triggers are the only thing that makes them playable
Why the fuck is nobody discussing deploy the gatewatch?
>>48187564
Because the math on how many walkers you need to make the card worth it works out in such a way that the deck would be rather clunky. Also, 6 mana is pretty expensive
>>48187462
You exploit the huge casting costs of emerge eldrazi to fetch bombs.
>>48187536
No no, you birthing pod the emerge creatures into even larger creatures. You can et the emerge creatures out faster than normal so you can tutor your bombs faster. A similar effect can be done with simple ramp..
>>48178303
The difference between sorcery and instant speeds is the difference between practically unplayable and playable, so yes, instant speed is well worth 1 extra mana.
>>48187651
I guess so
I feel like there are so many good planeswalkers in standard right now and having two in play at once seems like almost game over
>>48185031
>what is a cube
This isn't the game for you, faggot
>>48181176
good in literally every major format
>>48181176
I know where this goes
>>48177465
Pick up spell quellers while you can, they will skyrocket after the Pro Tour for sure after the top 8 is Bant company decks with 4 ofs of them.
Also expect them to see heavy modern play, as they counter Abrupt Decay due to the exile effect.
>>48178207
>vampire with a mask
DIO???
>>48181176
This is an upside combat trick, all my yes.
Anyone else disappointed that they made werewolves and vampires mediocre again, and humans really good again?
>>48181176
>1 mana for a 3/2 token
What could possibly go wrong?
>>48181176
SAC IT ALL TO NANTUKO HUSK
Got heaps of fuckin' space in there. Just, check 'er in there.
>>48180753
Having them isn't the problem, the problem is that WotC feels the need to emphasize it as a selling point when it shouldn't really matter. If it's ethnically diverse, make it ethnically diverse. You don't have to point it out like that. It's like they're trying to show off, "how progressive they are," and get ahold of people that make a big deal out of nothing. Who gives a shit if there are different colors of people? They're treating it like an attraction at the zoo.
>>48177465
>Top 3
Thermo-Alchemist
Collective Brutality
Chaos Reveler
Impact:
Cryptbreaker
Mirrorwing Dragon
Eldritch Evolution
>>48179285
Haste you mean, it needs to attack for the trigger.
>Top 3
Spell Queller
Repel the Abominable
Mausoleum Wanderer
We U/W spirit now.
>>48178493
what the fuck will black and green cards even look like in this block
>>48189188
maybe there are biologists, maybe there are corrupt officials.
maybe there will be literally loo golgari.
>>48189188
Zombie alligators.
>>48189253
>>48189269
>Skeleton
Zombie, nigga.
>>48178250
And they didn't even change the picture.
Bleh.
>>48178823
Snapcaster, pretty much.
There was a time in standard when both were legal
>>48178519
Poker is not really strategically interesting.
>>48185324
>Izzet
>>48178493
>Fire magic is strictly banned, and pyromancy punishable with a death sentence.
u wot
>>48185324
>>48189374
More like Esper
>>48179904
>ishet white male
I thought they were trying to imply he's gay for Jace. But maybe it's just me.
>>48189374
Are you retarded or you are just pretending to be one?
>>48189374
>>48189380
Pyromancy is banned because therrs hardly any natural mages on the plane, so the artificers have to rely on mana powered devices rather than using it themselves.
Artifacts and mono-red have never exactly gotten along, but the degree to which a red/blue plane targets fire magic is a little weird to me
It's basically the capital city from Legend of Korra but as a plane
>>48189409that last sentence actually makes it sound a lot cooler to me
>only 10 artifact cards
>all of them shit
shit expansion
>>48189535
It's not a robot or magic sword kind of block faggot, the lack of a crossbow card is kind of lame but artifacts don't belong hereMirrodin is shit btw
>>48178565
Dismember > doom blade
>>48188550
You need to RTFC.
>>48189574
nigger, artifact decks are the shit
>>48178207
There is at least ONE sjw card in every set
>>48178493
I seriously hope there is a rare land called "Designated Shitting Street".
>>48186581
It does have conditions though. You need to wait until a creature's going to die before you can cast it but the second you do, yeah, that's a 3/2 for R on the battlefield for you. On occasion, you might be able to twist the +1/+0 in your favor.
Worst case scenario, this will be a cool card in a few top 8 standard decks for a while.
Best case scenario, you're looking at red's Delver.
Are there any cards in this set that could see some Legacy or even Vintage play? (Besides maybe the new Emrakul)
>>48190066
The only thing that looked like it was Stunning Regrowth
>>48190066
Thalia is more-or-less the only one that I've seen the community excited about.
There are a few that could be Sideboard tech. Then there's meta dependent stuff like Voracious Reader in Delver which does have both a very relevant ability and a great statline for what's being played right now.
>>48189689
Artifact Deck Tier
God Tier: Metalworker
Bro Tier: Belcher, Tezzerator
Lodestone Tier: Stax
I Enjoy Dicks Ravaging Me Tier: Affinity
>>48189579
To be fair... that's not very fair. Dismember is what, the second best removal spell ever printed?
>>48179918
>>48182110
>>48189999
No one likes you.
>>48186112
It's just a cinder pyromancer with defender
>>48177465
I play werewolves. So I am SUPER disappointed with this new set, as I have some things against eldrazi. I do adore Waxing Moon and Spirit of the Hunt, though. Goodbye Languish!
>>48190097
>>48190083
>>48190066
The full release of spoilers needs more analysis, since we got the remaining 100 cards dumped in a single day with little to no exposure.
>>48181176
>when that creature dies
>when
They are just so sure your shit is dying aren't they.
>>48190104
>I Enjoy Dicks Ravaging Me Tier: Affinity
bruh
i don't have cash for anything better.;_;
>>48190280
>Can afford a 800+$ deck
>"I can't afford anything else :("
Wut?
>>48190525
>800$+
what?, i think we talk about different things. anyway, is Sol Ring legal in modern? i heard it is banned in vintage and legacy only?
>>48190537
Check on gatherer yourself
>>48190555
really helpful
>>48178207
>Be vampire
>Slayer comes by
>Yeah this gonna be so easy
>He starts to undress, so buff and strong
>Oh no
>That's not slayer
>That's a layer
>>48178493
>What can we expect from Kaladesh
Poo not going in the loo.
Basically india 2020
>>48190652
>>48190670
underage b& pls, >>>/b/ is that way.
>>48190683
>Pajeet getting triggered
>>48190280
For Legacy MUD isn't that insane outside of the manabase. It's like ~2k altogether.
>>48190719
i play modern though, looking for nice artifact cards is pain.
>>48179848
>mfw using this to dig for Gitrog and turbo super hard
Just add on some jaddi offshoots and watch the fun begin
>>48178493
Wizards has a pretty good track record with artifact sets. I kinda think kaladesh will be an op set.
>>48190823
>Wizards nearly managed to sudoku the game twice
>Both times it was due to Artifact sets
I'm just waiting for the inevitable "Khaladesh was a mistake".
>>48190850
Get hype for functional reprints of the moxen.
>>48190868
>>Get hype for functional reprints of the moxen.
>* Mana Stone
>Each costs 2 colorless, comes into the battlefield tapped, and requires you to sacrifice a land of the appropriate type
>Taps for 1 colored mana
>>48190868
>>48190940
I can't wait for the artifact based legendary that is completely useless for a hypothetical EDH based around it. Here's what I expect!
>Fist of the Consuls
>(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
>Legendary Artifact Creature
>3/6
>(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), t: You may cast a colored spell from your hand without paying its mana cost, and as though it had flash.
>>48189219
>>48189188
Kaladesh is not like Ravnica. It does have wild life outside of the cities.
>>48191407
With that face, she looks like she's having fun.
>>48191532
she can cast fucking fireballs, why wouldn't she be happy
>>48191532
She is.
For all of her horrible faults, Chandra loves what she does.
>>48188891
underrated
>>48190122
This is true, /pol/ is going ruin all the lore threads once Kaladesh rotates in, aren't they?
>>48191857
>/pol/
That meme is heavily used on /int/, my Hindu friend.
>>48178565
If you doom blade it, it doom blades all of your shit back, though.
>>48190537
No, while it has the new card face it still hasn't been printed in a set that's legal in Modern yet. And with Core Sets now no longer a thing, that's not likely to happen any time soon.
>>48191058
I would use the shit out of that card, what are you talking abo-
>specifically five anus mana
Nope. Nope nope nope.
>>48193184
If you're playing Doom Blade, you're playing black. If you're playing black, you probably have black creatures
>>48193480
>>48191058
It will at least be UR so that a UR EDH deck can be made with a commander that has anything to do with artifacts, even if it is shit. Tbh I'm optimistic.
Standard decks ahoy!
Is this good in UW spirits? The price is so low and wouldnt mind investing if its worth. Doesnt seem very exciting and kind of expensive mana wise.
>>48195034
No goggles? tapping it double galvanic bombardment, which can lead to pretty reasonably doing 6 to a creature. copying Nahiri's wrath would let you not pay its costs again, meaning you can discard half of what you would to get double.
How about some stupid, cheap and silly Boros facerush shit?
4x Desperate Sentry
4x Otherworldly Outburst
4x Lone Rider
4x Extricator of Sin
4x Blood Mist
4x Hanweir Garrison
2x Mirrorwing Dragon
4x Nahiri's Machinations
4x Skin Invasion
4x Ride Down
4x Hanweir Battlements
10x Mountain
8x Plains
>>48195292
I see UW spirits playing a tempo beatdown strategy, jace belongs much more in a control shell where you can sit back and protect him and drown your opponent in card advantage
>>48178493
DESIGNATED SHITTING PLANE
(Now imagine her wiping her ass with her bare hand)
>>48178493
>It's an artifact block episode
>>48190111
What is the best?
>>48195869
not him, but I would say StP is the best removal ever printed
>>48195869
I'm guessing Swords to Plowshares.
>>48177577
Spell Queller actually doesn't work like that
>>48195869
Swords to Plowshares by a mile.
>>48195911
?
I'm pretty sure it does. It has two separate abilities, and you can put them on the stack in a specific order to permanently exile a spell.
>>48195292
Rumors are he's likely to spike in price once baby Jace rotates.
>>48195911
>opponent casts spell
>respond with spell queller
>trigger for "exile target spell" goes on stack
>respond to that trigger by killing spell queller
>"return target spell" goes on stack
>no spell exiled, no spell returned
>"exile target spell" trigger then resolves
spell gone
>>48196014
which is like q1 next year right?
> no love for this card
In my control blue black deck this is like dumping gravy on an already tasty treat
Why's there seem to be no interest?
>7 mana
also holy shit no one can decide how this card works. There is a comma between the two effects and the second effect seems to be referring to the player whos creature is being targeted.
>>48183806
Alternatively Aether Revolt could be about the Artifact Constructs rebelling Terminator Style.
>>48196141
>target yourself
make some zombies for yourself and have an option to kill one of your creatures
>target an opponent
give them some zombies and you may kill one of their dudes
OR
if they have a bunch of zombies already, just pay B and kill one of their dudes
>>48196141
It's really simple
Player a casts this and dumps zombies
Player a chooses one creature player b controls, that creature gets -1/-1 for each zombie player a controls.
>>48196207
Incorrect. Reread the card.
>>48196207
Actually the card doesn't specify the creature must be under the target player's control. You can target yourself for the zombies, then an opponent's creature for the -1/-1
