>>resources
>pastebin.com/LPEdZcTi
>The thigh of Everqueen edition:
>>Point system pdf for matched game
>>Thx, Based Leaker!
>sendspace.com/file/n3nkx2
>Old thread
>>48175202
Did nothing wrong edition.
>>48187058
He's bald. That's the mark of ultimate doing things wrong.
>NAGASH, THE GREAT BETRAYAL AGAI
>Nagash had led the emissaries of the Anvils of the Heldenhammer to believe that he would join them in their assault upon the fortress of Gothizzar, the All-gate that guarded the Endgate. Nagash knew that the arcway leading from the Allpoints to Shyish must be shuttered, but he did not aid the Stormcast Eternals. Such an alliance did not suit the Great Necromancer; after all, Nagash still did not consider his long-standing grudge against Sigmar for the wrongs done to him repaid. From his throne of bones, he watched the Stormcast Eternals die at Gothizzar. When he was ready, Nagash’s assault upon that fortress would not fail. He summoned his Mortarchs to council…
HA stupid, Azyrite peasants. The Undying King needs no one.
>>48187122
That sure worked out well for the dumbass. Hope he enjoys Chaos continuing to camp on his lawn.
>>48187122
This is fucking Saturday Morning Cartoon levels of incompetence here, come on.
>>48187122
Still waiting for best Tomb King.
>>48187138
>>48187145
>THEY DO NOT BELONG TO SIGMAR. SIGMAR THE DECEIVER. SIGMAR THE BARBARIAN. SIGMAR THE TRAITOR. WHO ALMOST COST THE UNDYING KING HIS KINGDOM.
Never again would the Great and noble Nagash trust the craven savage that is Sigmar.
>>48187159
Begone, humbled king.
>>48187395
He cost himself his own kingdom by bargaining with Chaos in the first place, despite their long history.
whateverth for kroak
>Typically ebullient, Nurgle’s mood now sagged to match his lumpen form. The god churned his cauldron, but no longer hummed a merry tune, nor did he chortle at the antics of his children. Despite their best frolicking, the mite-like daemons that danced beneath their lord’s immensity went unnoticed. Soon, their capers disregarded, they too grew sullen. Morosity spread across the Garden of Nurgle like a pandemic of foul mood.
>Gone were the eager bursting days of first invading Ghyran, a time when an infectious daemontide thrust itself into the lands. Ah… glorious incubations.
>Well did Nurgle recall the headiness of the prodromal stage, a happy time of rampant proliferation. Pustules had swelled, new diseases had oozed, and contagion had spread over the Jade Kingdoms. He had come so close.
>Time and again, the last triumph eluded the Chaos God: he could not capture Alarielle. Through illusion and the tireless devotion of her armies, the Queen of the Radiant Wood escaped his every ploy. She was the nature goddess who ruled Ghyran before the coming of Chaos, and only when she was trammelled would Nurgle taste his ultimate victory.
>On Nurgle’s armies conquered, seeking to claim that last prize. Base betrayals left Alarielle vulnerable. Ambushes closed the goddess off from her trusted allies. Pestilent hurricanes twisted her once bountiful surroundings into a withered landscape. The goddess herself had been infected with plagues a dozen times, each arcane malady burned off by her own life magics. Over all of Ghyran, a wretched gloom hung, a misery nearly as tangible as the noisome fogs that plagued the lands. Yet still, Alarielle eluded Nurgle. How he longed for her, craving the chance to lavish her matchless fecundity with his own diseased charms.
Nurgle is the very definition of a creepy neckbeard isn't he?
>>48187465
>spurned by muh waifu
Yeah basically.
>>48187465
>>48187505
At least she absolutely ruins his shit this book.
>>48187642
Just posted in the last thread, didn't realize there was a new one.
>>48187465
Isha is not going to forgive this betrayal.
Any good Stormcast battalions for 1000 point lists?
I posted an illegal 1000points Sylvaneth list yesterday, and after a bit of tweaking I am currently thinking of;
Branchwych
Treelord
10x Dryads
20x Dryads
5x Sprite revenants
3x Kournot hunters.
I could remove the revenants to have a Treeman ancient, but then i'd also be uneven on points by like 40 or so. But that might be worth it?
>>48188141
What're you expecting the Spite Revenants to do for you?
Looking through the GH I noticed there currently are some discrepancies with the Allegiance lists and Keywords. The Dragon Ogres for example currently don't have the Thunderscorn keyword. I think there where some other things as well but the store is down for maintenance right now so I can't check.
This makes it seem very likely that they will release new warscrolls together with the GH with point values and some changed keywords.
Maybe we'll get some surprises in that some allegiance possibilites open up thanks to new keywords that currently aren't there?
>>48188468
It's possible. It would go wrong if improperly implemented, but it could also go very, very right.
At this point, who knows?
>>48188468
to be fair they have like two units so it'dd be damn boring to run only them
How do i fight giant fuckoff monsters with d6 wound attacks as Brettonia? Dhurus all over my shit and its not good!
>>48188573
Sure. But since the option to do so is there in the GH but they don't actually have the keyword for it to work it gives us a nice confirmation that there is going to be some sort of changes to the warscrolls. Even of units that don't change otherwise.
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Hey guys, question:
What is all-point? pic related?
Then waht is all-gates?
Realm gates are one way, right?
Then all-gates are (or is there only one) are gates go to every other gate? Or every other gate of a realm? Or are all-gates still normal gates but all in an point that is calles all-point?
>>48188861
reamlgates are two way. That's why they're so valuable
>>48188870
I thought they were stargate-like? When they're open they are one way.
Isn't that implied in the last audio thingy with mannfred?
>>48188904
There are at least some that are two way. The one in the Ironjawz book was at least cause they flat out stated that the stormcasts couldn't afford to lose it cause if they did the Ironjawz would be able to invade their staging point and have access to EVERY realm. I can't remember the ending, but I think the stormcasts blew it up
>>48188918
Okay, thanks Anon.
>>48188861
>The nexus of travel, the Allpoints, is the single most coveted strategic location in the Mortal Realms. Its paths have been trod by the gods themselves, and its history is filled with wars and legends. The fall of the Allpoints to Chaos marked the end of an era, but now, Sigmar is the one seeking to conquer
>For most creatures, travel between the Mortal Realms is impossible save by powerful magic or by a Realmgate. Even deities, when they walk amongst mortals, find such routes the easiest to navigate. The arcane passageways come in all shapes and sizes and allow travel across immeasurable distances. There are many of these gateways, and most span from one destination to another, such as the Gryphonne Gate which once bridged the twilight lands of Quillia in Azyr, to the kingdom of Rhodium in Chamon. A rare few Realmgates connect multiple locations, but there is only one that connects them all.
>It was a bridge to everywhere – a strange island that existed in no place, yet was connected to all places. Named the Allpoints, it grew during the Age of Myth to become a vital nexus of travel. Grand cities sprang up around the exit arcways in each of the realms, as trade prospered between the kingdoms and races in those days when the likes of Sigmar still walked among mortals. Of all the burgeoning civilisations in all the varied realms, however, no city was more cultured or diverse than the one within the strange in-between zone that was the Allpoints. Long before Azyrheim existed, the population of the Allpoints boasted men, duardin, aelves, and dozens of other races and sentient creatures. There was strife, and occasional trade wars broke out, but they were swiftly ended with few atrocities on any side.
>And then came Chaos.
>>48188904
>Isn't that implied in the last audio thingy with mannfred?
Mannfred had the Dagger of Kadon which can open portals anywhere if he fed it Azyrite energies.
>>48188946
>From beyond reality, the Chaos Gods watched the Mortal Realms, their gaze jealously following Sigmar and his growing pantheon. Each of the Chaos powers launched attacks into the realms. Some were bold invasions, such as those led by Ghorgrax, commander of Khorne’s Rage Legion, while others, such as the Campaigns of Beguilement led by Kairos Fateweaver, Oracle of Tzeentch, were far more subtle in nature. Yet whether by bloody battle or insidious corruption, Chaos came.
>The Allpoints resisted. Enlisting Sigmar and his pantheon for aid, fortifications were constructed to guard each of the exits. These fortifications became known as the All-gates. The defences were formidable, with each stronghold unique to the realm in which it lay. In Chamon, the Ironholds were built to guard the Mercurial Gate – a great series of fortresses with moving walls of metal that could withstand any assault. As Chaos grew stronger, the Allpoints became more and more important. From a single point, the allied Mortal Realms could shift to help each other, aiding the armies of Sigmar’s pantheon to fight back the Chaos invaders. Many battles were fought around the All-gates, but always the Chaos forces
were defeated. Too proud and too envious of each other to unite, each of the Dark Gods strove for mastery on their own. Finally, it was Archaon, the Everchosen, Exalted Grand Marshal of the Apocalypse, who united the five banners of Chaos. Armies of Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh, and the Great Horned Rat all marched behind him. Brute force, magical manipulation, plague, temptation and swarming numbers each played a part. One by one, the All-gates fell, save only the gate guarding Azyr. Sigmar, seeing what was coming, locked the entrance to the Heavens.
>>48188979
>The Chaos forces’ capture of the All-gates led to inevitable invasion of the Allpoints itself, and many bloody battles in which Archaon triumphed. This marked the fracturing of Sigmar’s pantheon. Each god felt betrayed and abandoned by the others. With wedges
driven between the old alliances, the rise of Chaos was inevitable. Archaon used the quick access to the different realms that the Allpoints afforded to amass his strength, shifting armies where they were needed and snatching the initiative from Sigmar once and for all. And so began a five hundred-year reign of unrelenting terror, which lasted until the Stormcasts were unleashed.
>The Allpoints had become known to the servants of Chaos as the Eightpoints – for the corruptive powers saw the vast inter-realm island as an eight-pointed star. There was built the Varanspire, Archaon’s fastness and the proving grounds for his vaunted Varanguard. Portals in its highest towers led straight to the Realm of Chaos. So the Allpoints became the chief place from which the anarchic energies and daemon legions of Chaos flowed freely out into the Mortal Realms
>>48188987
Have they lost allpoints yet or no? I Imagine that there's a constant stream of orruks coming from the Ghur gate
>>48188243
Lower leadership mainly. But i got to admit a bit of it is because i like the models. But would the other version be better until i can get that outcast battalion thing going?
>>48188995
Still reading through the book but it's impossible for the Allpoint to fall at this time due ti the fact that Varanspire and the bulk of Archaon's legions are present there.
>>48188946
>>48188979
>>48188987
THANK YOU!
>>48188995
>Have they lost allpoints yet or no? I Imagine that there's a constant stream of orruks coming from the Ghur gate
If all-points hold Archaons fortress I guess no.
But they conquerd and/or sealed a few end all-gates in the realms itself.
>Ghurk trudged forwards with ground-shaking strides, his one beady eye fixed upon the shining figure of the goddess before him. Alarielle paused and regarded the Glottkin with disgust for a moment, before spurring her wardroth beetle on. Despite his swollen physique, Otto was agile enough to strike the first blow. His long scythe swung down to pierce the wardroth’s iron-hard exoskeleton, the poisoned blade digging deep into the beetle’s vitals. Nothing, however, could slow the creature’s momentum. Both Alarielle’s spear and the wardroth’s massive horns impaled Ghurk before the collision’s impact sent him tumbling over and over. The smaller Glottkin were sent spinning off their gargantuan brother’s spine-covered back.
>The first to rise was Otto, his scythe blurring out to sever one of the wardroth’s segmented legs before the beetle could lower its head and charge again. Shuffling forward, the beetle still attempted to gouge Otto before the tentacle-arm of the rising Ghurk came down, stoving in the wardroth’s head so that the whole creature crumpled into a pile, legs twitching madly.
>Alarielle fluttered clear of the wreckage, wings outspread. Enraged at the death of her companion, her piercing yell was not a shout of dismay, but a war cry, a siren song of death and vengeance. That cry echoed through the realms, stirring the heartwood of every sylvaneth creature. Every regent, king or queen, heard that call to arms and redoubled
their own efforts to reclaim the Jade Kingdoms. In the unknowable Realm of Chaos, mighty Nurgle stood alone at his murkpool of seeing. When he heard that clarion call even he covered his ears and was staggered.
>>48189080
>With a thrust of her spear, Alarielle skewered Otto, while she raked the Talon of the Dwindling into the enormity that was Ghurk. Twice the largest of the Glottkin brought down his whip-ended tentacle, and twice Alarielle nimbly danced away, each time alighting to drive her talon into Ghurk. The grotesque behemoth roared, for the claws drew out his life essence. He teetered, and then fell, shaking the earth. Ghurk’s swollen body shrivelled as he howled in agony.
>All this time, Alarielle struggled to wrench her spear out of Otto. While Ghurk writhed, the goddess turned her full attention to the task, using both hands in an attempt to wrest back her weapon. The impalement would have slain any mortal ten times over, but Otto Glott was bloated with unnatural toughness granted by his foul patron. Already, necrotic skin crusted over the wound as he attempted to pull himself up the gore-slicked shaft, hauling hand over hand in order to reach her.
>>48189103
RING OUT.
Alarielle wins.
>>48189112
That's the "win"?
It's still a good win, for she is my goddess.
>No sooner had this magical flare lit the sky than the Molten Sea began to bubble and writhe ominously. Up rose Argentine, the Silver Wyrm of Anvrok. As the godbeast uncoiled, it absorbed the liquid metal, which hardened over its scales into another layer of silver plating. So enormous was the creature that metallic tidal waves washed over the land as it moved. Rising to blot out the sun, Argentine shook the excess molten silver from its lithe body, sending lake sized droplets cascading down in a deathly rain. As Argentine’s roar of awakening echoed across the void, Sigmar heard it from his palace high in the Heavens above Azyr. He rose from his throne, his fists clenched, for even the God King could know fear.
>It was known that Argentine, the Silver Wyrm, had been turned to the service of the Dark Gods long ago by none other than Archaon himself. Yet the God-King had not reckoned upon the zodiacal beast’s presence near the Mercurial Gate, assuming that the notoriously slumbersome creature had slithered down to sleep within the Great Cauldera. Yet Sigmar himself had been deceived, led astray by the illusions of Tzeentch. Dracothion, however, had looked down from the Heavens and seen that the Molten Sea was not as it seemed.
>Stretching down from the skies, Argentine looked upon the Stormcasts and Fyreslayers, mere specks far below. Contemptuously, he breathed out a blast of warpfire, blackening half of the bastion isle. Even as the godbeast drew back, gathering itself to unleash a still-mightier tempest of fire, a bolt from the Heavens struck, sizzling along the entirety of the godbeast’s massive length.
>>48189283
>To the onlookers below, it seemed as if the sky itself was moving, stars flickering across the Heavens even in the light of day. Dracothion had come, the Great Drake, ruler of the Night Sky, Hunter-King of the Azyrite Cosmos. His roar of challenge shook the air itself. Argentine snaked upwards, rising to the challenge, eager to clash once again with his greatest rival.
Dracothion vs Argentine. Round 2. Go!
>>48189289
>Dracothion vs Argentine. Round 2. Go!
Father and son, not round 2, since Dracothion ain't trying to kill Argentine last time.
>>48189031
Or in ghur's case destroyed it
>>48189112
Otto's line there is pretty anime.
>>48189402
Seriously, is there anyone who really -likes- Archaon? Or do we just tolerate him.
>>48189436
I like him... though, I'm not so fond of the Age of Sigmar "I am undefeatable" incarnation I keep hearing about.
>The Chaos Gods have many champions, each choosing favourites and rewarding them with dark blessings and gifts of great power. However, only one being bears the patronage of all four, for the Chaos Gods are bitter rivals.
>Archaon the Everchosen is a blood-drenched warrior, harvesting skulls for Khorne in numbers unsurpassed. Monsters, kings, entire armies and worlds have fallen beneath his sword. Archaon is also a corrupter beyond compare, the swathes of devastation he leaves behind are hotbeds for plagues and decay, the playthings of Nurgle. To Tzeentch, Archaon is the key to the most grandiose and twisting scheme that ever was – for he is the hand of destiny itself, the ultimate fate. And to Slaanesh, Archaon is a paragon, a conqueror that drives men and daemons alike to murderous excess.
Bloody confirmed. Archaon is the one and only true champion of Chaos Undivided.
>>48189436
Because he is pure....ANIME!
Based on the feedback from last thread;
Original;
Coven Throne 260
Leader, Behemoth, Army General, Tomb Blade, Ruler of the Night
Heinrich Kemmler 160
Leader
20 Zombies 120
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
6 Spirit Hosts 240
6 Spirit Hosts 240
6 Spirit Hosts 240
Mortis Engine 180
Behemoth
10 Hexwraiths 320
TOTAL: 1960
Variant 1;
Vampire lord on Zombie Dragon 440
Leader, Behemoth, Army General, Tomb Blade, Ruler of the Night, Chalice of Blood, Ancient Shield, Deathlance
Heinrich Kemmler 160
Leader
20 Zombies 120
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
Corpse Cart 80
6 Spirit Hosts 240
6 Spirit Hosts 240
6 Spirit Hosts 240
Mortis Engine 180
Behemoth
5 Hexwraiths 160
TOTAL: 1980
Variant 2;
Vampire lord on Zombie Dragon 440
Leader, Behemoth, Army General, Tomb Blade, Ruler of the Night, Chalice of Blood, Ancient Shield, Deathlance
Heinrich Kemmler 160
Leader
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
10 Zombies 60
Banner Bearer, Noise Maker, Battleline
6 Spirit Hosts 240
6 Spirit Hosts 240
6 Spirit Hosts 240
Mortis Engine 180
Behemoth
10 Hexwraiths 320
TOTAL: 2000
>>48189436
There's at least one anon that will jump to his husbando's defense every time, proclaiming how great and incredible he is without even a shred of self-awareness.
Possible the horned monster here is a new model? Doesn't really look like a Magmadroth to me.
>>48188946
The mention of other races and sentient creatures is interesting.
>>48188987
Also interesting to get a concrete value of time for the Age of Chaos.
>>48189436
He's pretty bleh in my opinion.
Anon in the last thread brought up a decent point of him being somewhat akin to Melkor and Sauron, but nowhere near as appealing.
>>48189608
Might be early concept art of a droth
>>48187122
>Get killed by the council of thirteenth giving your enemy an overcursed kamikaze weapon, in the same time preventing you to capitalize on the spell you just casted on your country.
>You manage to come back to unlife, only to see that since you couldn't follow on your previous spell, your land is full of angry peoples lead by Settra the Conqueror himself, the greatest king to walk on the earth.
>You so decide to gather forces by attacking the barbarian tribes in the east, should be enough to assemble an army and be ready to face Settra.
>There's a barbarian with a fuckhuge plot armor with "twin comets lel" written on it that kills you and force you to spend time to gather your strength to come back to unlife. Again.
>Fast forward aeons later, the fucking barbarian has an even bigger plot armor, acts like he's the boss of everybody, and, despite you managing to become an actual God of Death, STEALS FUCKING SOULS FROM YOU.
I'm obviously biased because I'm a Nagash fanboy, but I'll be pissed with Sigmar too.
>In the midst of the maelstrom of combat was Archaon atop his monstrous three-headed daemon-steed. Trailing fire that burnt midnight black, the Slayer of Kings rose and fell, the hellsteel blade glowing red as it tasted blood again and again. The Everchosen did not kill in ones or twos but in waves, sweeping away ranks of Liberators or Hearthguard Berzerkers at a time. Dorghar pulped foes beneath his colossal forelimbs, the impact splattering bodies and sending cracks running through the metal bridge. Each of the monstrous heads struck out, teeth rending or beak shearing. The plague head opened wide, sending forth a stream of corruption that slew many. The butchery on the bridge was well under way when a bolt from the Heavens struck the midst of the battle.
>The war between the godbeasts was over. Each dealt the other grievous blows, but it was Argentine who fled. Too wounded to pursue, Dracothion watched from the Heavens while the Silver Wyrm slithered down into the Realm of Metal, burrowing deep beneath the Goldvault Mountains. Before fading behind the constellations, the Great Drake mustered the last of his strength and sent forth one final strike. The blazing bolt was aimed at Archaon, but he was warned by the foresight of the Eye of Sheerian. Using massive leathery wings to flap backwards, Dhorghar cleared the Everchosen from the worst of the impact, though could not escape unscathed. The meteor blast smashed into the battle on the bridge, obliterating all those nearby. The shock
waves sent many more – Varanguard, Fyreslayers and Stormcast Eternals – over the bridge’s edge, hundreds of feet into the Molten Sea. Many bolts of azure shot skywards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnxOIzI_0QQ
>>48187122
...that can't be right. Nagash cannot possibly continue to shoot himself in the foot like he does. Is Mannfred his chief advisor now?
>>48189581
>>48189608
I can't even really point out what's my problem with him. He's just... uninteresting.
The whole point of him seems to be, that he's undivided. But not normally undivided but special undivided.
He's like any other generic chaos champion but in his genericness he's the best and the strongest.
Just... ewww.
>The Varanguard that had survived reformed, rushing forwards to claim the head of a Lord Celestant before the eyes of their dread lord. Thostos, however, stood tall. The mounted troops loomed over him, and at times, the Celestial Vindicators on the far side lost sight of their leader, buried as he was beneath the press of black-armoured foes. Whirling, Thostos led his troops, fighting off charge after charge until they stood atop a mound of fallen Varanguard. Yet one by one, his followers were cut down, shafts of blue returning to the Heavens. At last, only a pair of Decimators and Thostos remained – battered, bleeding, but defiant and proud.
>Growing weary of watching his underlings fail, Archaon raised the Slayer of Kings, and it burst into flame. At Dorghar’s triple roar, the Varanguard fell back. In a voice loud enough to be heard by the onlookers upon the far span of the broken bridge, the Everchosen mocked his victims before springing. Dorghar’s charge unstoppable, Archaon let his mount savage them, its huge claws sending all three flying. He intended to toy with the proud sons of Sigmar, for this was more cruelty than battle, more a cat playing with a mouse than true combat. Thostos could not save his warriors, but his runeblade did draw blood, sinking deep into the scaled chest of Archaon’s steed. And that was enough. Bellowing in rage, the three-headed beast reared high, bringing all its tremendous strength down. So fell Thostos Bladestorm, Archaon claiming the head. Yet before that noble soul could spirit back to the Heavens, Archaon bade his steed to rend and swallow the crushed Lord Celestant. Snapping out, each head savaged a portion. No blue light would ever return to Azyr.
Bye Thostos Bladestorm. We hardly knew ye!
>>48189684
Yes, that is a good reason to betray the guy willing to help you UNCONDITIONALLY to retake the entrance to YOUR realm that YOU lost to chaos. And it wasn't even a sensible betrayal for any actual gain, but just a refusal to show up and take part in the joint operation because it might have been beneath you.
It's becoming painfully clear that the biggest threat to Nagash's rule is Nagash.
>>48189733
>Into Light and Dark Sigmar sent his Stormcast Eternals, but of how those wars fared, none could tell.Few returned, and none could speak clearly of what they had seen. Even the far seeing eyes of the immortal gods could not be sure of what they beheld…
>Before the coming of Chaos, Hysh and Ulgu were called the Mirror Realms, for each reflected back upon the other – a likeness that was opposite, yet in some ways the same. Hysh was the Realm of Light, the lands where reason and symmetry ruled, a place rife with symbolism and double meanings. Yet to gaze upon pure truth is like staring at the sun –both lead to blindness. Opposite Hysh were the veiled lands of Ulgu, the dreaded Realm of Shadow. Thirteen unending regions, all lands of secrets and half-truths, all places where mystery blew upon the breeze. If one stared long enough upon those shifting mists, definite shapes could be seen or guessed upon – but were these visions real or illusory? In a land of unreason, who can tell what is real and what is not?
>Yet always the struggle between Order and Chaos continues
Archaon and Sigmar sent forces to Ulgu. None of these forces reported back yet. The few that returned cannot even speak of what is happening inside that realm. This is a plot hook for an Ulgu expansion for sure.
>>48189733
Yes, a hate spanning thousands of years is good reason enough. Nagash has always thought about himself only, and yes, that's also often the reason why he isn't ruling over more things despite his power.
That's also why I like him, he's true to his character, and more understandable than "Big invincible badass that will destroy everything" Archaon, whom I find pretty bland in AoS.
>>48189733
>betrays sigmar at pivotal point of the battle
>fuck you sigmar for letting chaos take over my realm and not comin to my aid when I was getting BTFO by archaon!
>fuck you for taking 0.001% of the souls I'm owed!
>what, you still want to help me? Sure
>jk I'm still mad at you for leaving me alone to fight off chaos, so I'm gonna betray you and fight off chaos. Alone
>I LOST AGAIN WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?! FUCK SIGMAR!
Nagash will never learn
>>48189768
>>48189407
It wasn't.
The beast that has it in his mouth was set free and it returned to roaming Ghur.
>>48187122
>Lightning pierced the gloom that hung over Gothizzar.Its castle-crypts and terminal spires guarded the Endgate, the Allpoints entrance into Shyish. Mighty were the walls of Gothizzar, and many were the Chaos defenders. Yet Sigmar believed the combined strength of his Stormhosts fighting alongside Nagash’s formidable forces could not have been stopped.
>Long did the Anvils of the Heldenhammer await their oathbound allies. When the armies of the dead did not arrive, the Stormcasts attacked alone. They marched on Gothizzar despite the betrayal, well short of the numbers they would need to take the Realmgate. They fought like heroes, but there could be only one ending.
>To a warrior, they died in the gloom that hovered over the All-gate of Gothizzar.
>Shyish is the land of endings, even for promises and oaths
This is just sad.
>>48190049
Waiting for the part where dumb ass Nagash realizes he fucked up
>>48189112
>"You can dole it out, but can you take it?"
L-LEWD!
Seraphon Battlehost
1980
Thunderquake Starhost = 120
Engine of the Gods = 240
Bastiladon = 300
Bastiladon = 300
Salamanders = 120
- 2
Skink Handlers = 80
- 6
Thunderquake Starhost = 120
Saurus Eternity Warden = 140
Saurus Guard = 200
- 10
Saurus Guard = 200
- 10
Saurus Guard = 200
- 10
Eternal Starhost = 80
Total = 820
>>48190105
>implying Nagash will admit he was wrong
>>48190162
>otto groaned as Alarielle pulled her spear free
>the hole no longer gushing but merely dripping viscous fluid
>ghurk had regrown to full size once again, and lashed out with his tentacle
I-is there more of this?
>>48190194
I'd fucking love it if it was a greenskin or something that made him realize he done goof'd
>Built on Khorne’s demand by the dark Children of Hashut, the Bloodcombe’s walls were impossibly thick. It was said that the magma-walls could not be defeated by mortal means. Three times Dorryc steeled his will, three times he commanded the godbeast. Only upon the third call did the vast head of Ignax loom over the stronghold like a newly risen sun. A single flare-burst drilled into the Bloodcombe, for there was naught that had ever been built that could stand against that cosmic inferno.
Chaos Dwarfs/Duadrin confirmed!
Also the Fyreslayers gained control over Ignax (temporarily).
>>48190194
>YOUR FAGGOT STORMCASTS COULDN'T EVEN SOFTEN UP THE CHAOS FORCES FOR ME, FUCK YOU SIGMAR YOU USELESS PIECE OF SHIT!!!
>>48189998
let me tell you something about passing over 9000 hours on paint
>>48190283
>the stick is actually a bone
My ribs
Before
>>48190337
After. With results!
>The War for the Allpoints had passed a critical juncture. In the Heavens of Azyr, the Broken World span on. The Bell of Lamentations tolled heavily, but not all was grim. Loud came the sounds of revelry from Heldenhall.
>In Aqshy, the Brimfire Gate was closed. The realm belonged to Khorne, but the Blood God had suffered a major defeat. Terrible were his bellows of rage.
>In Ghyran, the Genesis Gate was closed. Alarielle’s Campaigns of Cleansing were begun– the winds had shifted
>In Shyish, the Endgate remained in Archaon’s hands. In breaking his oath, Nagash had turned his back upon Sigmar once more.
>In Hysh, it was difficult to decipher whether the war had brought victory or defeat, sorrow or rejoicing.
>In Ghur, the Mawgate was battered, its defences destroyed. But it remained unclaimed. A new threat grew there…
>In Chamon, the Mercurial Gate remained under Archaon, his defences unyielding.
>In Ulgu, the fate of the Penumbral Gate remained a mystery, for no word returned.
>In the Eightpoints, Archaon brooded. Sigmar would pay tenfold. In the Realm of Chaos, the lands rumbled and changed, for change was inevitable…
>>48190351
The epilogue :
>The battle for control of the Mortal Realms continued. While gods and demigods pondered their next moves, and the Sigmarabulum rang to the hammer blows of Reforging, an insidious evil was taking form, solidifying out of the pure madness that was the Realm of Chaos.
>Nine in number, the Gaunt Summoners hailed from the Crystal Labyrinth. There, the coven had created the Whisperfane– an impossible mind-maze filled with deadly illusions,and one of the dreaded Silver Towers. With a push of their unfathomable minds, the Gaunt Summoners could shift these twisted citadels into the reality of the Mortal Realms. There, many a brave warrior would be lured inside with promises of riches untold. Many entered, yet few returned.
>Plans within plans, plots within plots. Who can tell the endgame of those cabalistic sorcerers? Their methods are insane, their goalsinscrutable – yet it is said in ancientand little-understood rhymes that ‘death becomes the smallest fear when the Silver Towersappear’.
>Fear them, for they are coming…
Trying to build a (baby) Archaon and friends list.
Currently have
Archaon (legacy)
3 Varangard
Mighty lord of khorne
Blood secrator
Bloodstoker
10 blood warriors
20 bloodreavers
2 khogorath
Skarbrand
Thanquol
3 stormfiend
2 wlc
Currently on the assembly line.
All 5 of the mounted chaos lords (undivided and 4 gods)
Aspiring and exalted deathbringer.
Arch warlock
6 jezzails
No idea what battleline troups to get.
>>48190363
Hints about some content for Ulgu and Hysh in the future.
And confirmations about a huge Tzeentchian update in the future for AoS (The Year of Tzeentch be coming).
Who is hyped here?
>>48190369
Also a mystery thing for the forces of destruction. Sure as hell ain't chaos or order that's squatting in fucking ghur
>>48190386
it's obviously gorkamorka, but he may come later as we only have rumors about beastriders (repack and battletome only probably) and savage orcs
>>48190351
So final scores: chaos and order tied at 2 all (I assume we don't count Azyr's gate), mystery forces in hysh and ulgu mean 2 are no result, 1 for destruction, and 0 for Nagash. Lolnagash.
>>48190363
>>48190369
I am moderately hyped for Tzeentch. Seems he's making a play of his own, which sounds like fun. And obviously we know what some of the model designs will look like from silver tower.
>>48190429
Why would they use such an ominous phrase as
>A new threat grew there...
when it's just Gorkamorka? They could just state `'Nobody got to claim Ghur cause the greenskinz fucked up everyones shit'.
>>48190369
>If my m8 gets the GW Manager job
Very
>If not
Nope
>>48190567
because cliffhangers
>>48189112
>"Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all."
Anybody got the new general's handbook? What's in it?
>>48191463
not out yet until the 23rd, but theres a bit of stuff in it
points cost of course and ways to properly build a list.
path to chaos got an update (though its kind of unbalanced now, probably need to have a good dose of homebrew to fix up the cracks
a fudge ton of different ways to play (from 3+player, to story missions to campaign style stuff.
worth it for its price of £15 (think its about 30$?)
>>48191463
...really?
So how useful/essential is the General Handbook thing?
>picked up my Sylv battletome
>curious to see what the other GW schemes are
>none were in stock
pdf of painting guide when?
>>48191668
It's not like it's hard to get a tree right since drybrushing will make any tree creature look convincing. Just google weird trees if you want inspiration for exotic colourscheme.
>>48191693
Less of a "how to" more of a "How much taste GW has"
I kinda wanted to go full spooky trees, but my current list is way more balanced
Might go for a "4 seasons" theme
>>48191720
I would actually want to go with a tropical theme, but I think palm leaves would look bad on the dryaders.
>>48191793
Yeah the whole range really is just normal Western trees
>>48191819
Well, sure. I could make a rainforest themed army or even a weeaboo cherry blossom, but it would be fun with having a tropical beach themed army.
What is the best god to dedicate your StDs for? Khorne seems really obvious with Bloodborne overlap, but which god has the best mechanical benefits over-all?
>>48191867
Rainforest would be awesome, but it would have be with conversions/kitbash to really standout
My Dryads are going to represent Winter i think - there's not a lot of leaves on the models
So I see some already have the new all gates book. I haven't been reading any blurbs from it so no spoilers.
Just trell me, are my Grungni duardin in it?
>>48191951
For STDs you should always go Slaanesh, that's obvious.
So, reading the Sylvaneth tome. I really like the idea of the Ironbark wargrove as it'll let me use my Fyreslayers but it's not worth it if it means the army loses Sylvaneth Allegiance
It FEELS like taking a Sylvaneth Wargrove battalion should mean that it counts as Sylvaneth Allegiance, regardless of any other keywords but I can't find it written down anywhere. Not to mention, does this grant the keyword to any other units? Like would a Runeson qualify for the 'Ironbark Hero' requirement of the Ironbark Talisman?
>>48192047
It shouldn't break allegiance, since otherwise the Mighty Wyldwood bonus could never activate, but I doubt it'll confer keywords.
>>48192032
Is Slaanesh actually GOOD in ghis game?
>>48192157
yes.
Insanely fast, cheap units. Work best with tzeench imho. You engage fast and keep shooting from behind the lines. You flank a single units with 10 seekers, you shoot hi with your mages and the get the fuck out. Rinse and repeat. Demonettes move basically 12"(run and charge and always run 6"), have 2 attacks ach and generate extra attacks each 6.
Good shit.
Big question: to get your "painting" stamps in the campaign card, you nee to actually buy and print a new unit or just to paint a new unit in gw store?
>>48187122
>>48187145
Well, Nagash is basically picture related.
Expecting competence on his part is foolish.
>>48192405
this is just so fucking perfect
I can only read nagash voice with pic related's
>>48192372
>hey man just got my new unit for 50% off on ebay ready to paint, that cool with you?
>>48192436
i mean, if I have some old miniatures lying around qouldn't be that acceptable?
Its labelled "painting stamps", not BUY MORE stamps.
>>48192360
>have Juan Diaz daemonettes
>thinking about getting Silver Tower
All I need is some greater daemons...
>>48192484
only acceptabe keeper of secrets is FW one. The old model is frankly ridicolous.
That, or you must kitbash it.
>>48192435
>not having read Nagash's lines with Skeletors voice for years already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd-YkMZs6Po
>>48192511
That's how I feel about the Great Unclean One.
>>48192511
There are decent third party alternatives, but wouldn't anon want a Lord of Change instead?
So losing All-Gates is obviously a huge inconvenience, but how big a blow to Chaos is this really? Is it now possible to actually drive Khorne and Nurgle out of Fire and Life, for example?
>>48192405
He didn't use to be Skeletor. I miss best Nagash.
>>48192532
NOW I CANT FUCKING UNHEAR IT, THANKS
>>48192550
I know that feel bro. FW great emons are stunning.
If only GW remade all greater demons like they re-did the bloodthirster....
i doubt they'll ever do tho. surely not on the short period. The glottkin is rumored to be a Great unclean model that had been changed at the last moment to become a unique character for the end times.
>>48192573
>lord of change
>filthy tzeench
get away, you filthy change-sucker.
Nurgle is displeased by your lack of apathy.
>>48192598
This one?>>48187122
>>48192632
I liked his WHFB fluff better before Black Library started writing those shitty novels about him and the End Times.
The more GW fleshes out a character the worse they tend to get.
>>48192047
You get allegiance for if all units have the same keyword. So yes, taking the duardin option in the Ironbark wargrove would turn it into an Order allegiance. Since the Duardin option is part of the Wargrove, if you take a fyreslayer hero he would count as an Ironbark-Hero and could thus take the Ironbark-Talisman.
>>48192550
I actually like the Great Unclean one and don't see the problem with it.
>>48192669
It's pretty meh, barely resembles Nurgle, and all of GW's art now seems to resemble the FW GUO anyway.
>>48190049
>welp we can't possibly win, let's just go out and die
were they led by the blackfish or am i missing something ?
>>48192653
Shut up, hispter.
Before the novels he barely had any meaningful fluff or characterization. Saying that you liked him is just you being a twit.
>>48192682
Nurgle is just a big fat blob of puss, teeth, sores, maggots and boils. A fate that can easily be avoided by taking showers. It's pretty spot on.
PAINTING GUIDE SCANS WHERE
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>48192803
Nah, I liked Warhammer better when not everyone in the tabletop game was fleshed out characters for soap opera drama. Those kinda characters works better when they are OC's for novels and are not part of the game.
>>48192682
The kit comes with two heads.
>>48192841
Yeah, I liked that about Warhammer too. Just having it as a sandbox to put stories in rather than having a super strong narrative.
>>48192911
I can see why people like the soap opera, though. Age of Sigmar is basically the WWF version of Warhammer. It can be fun, but it's not my first choice.
>tfw Archaon is basically the Ultimate Warrior
I appreciate the difference in tone.
FB: "Everyone's fucked, Chaos can't lose"
40k: "Everyone's fucked, Chaos can't lose"
AoS: "Fuuuuuuuck Chaos"
>>48192841
So you mean you liked a character that is hollow and empty.
A non-character.
>>48189721
>killing my favourite Stormcast character
This is just inexcusable
New slyvaneth terrain?
>>48193057
He's been broken in mind for a while now.
>>48193057
>killing a stormcast
anon you may want to reread their fluff
>>48193072
nevermind I just read the text fragment
>>48193024
On the tabletop, yes. I prefer the tabletop special characters to be archtypes with a brisk backstory. Their emotions and doubts are not interesting to me. Also, GW just tends to make a character less likeable the more they expand on them because different authors project their own character flaws on them. So they just end up being inconsistent figures with no real character.
>>48192956
I never understood the appeal of wrestling.
Seems like a fitting comparison.
>>48193115
I was told that it's an inner child thing and that people who are into wrestling just want to pretend that these crazy characters exists in the real world for a short while when watching the game.
It's probably related to the same reason why some adults still read super hero comics.
>>48192459
Should be fine as long as it's official GW stuff and not recasts. How are they to know you didn't buy them online, or had them sitting in your wardrobe for a decade? As you said, it's about painting, not purchasing.
>>48193144
Nah, wrestling's a soap opera. That's the big secret, the appeal's exactly the same. It's basically like Eastenders, just with less horrific violence.
>>48192665
That seems right by RAW, but seems off by RAI. For instance, if it loses Sylvaneth Allegiance by taking Fyreslayer units then, by RAW, no-one can take the Ironbark Talisman as it only can be taken in place of one of the items in the Sylvanteth tome ('page 110") rather than one of the generic Order items. It seems perverse they'd include an item that was specifically 'made by duardin' and prevent you taking it if you took any duardin...
>>48192978
You either didn't pay attention or are applying double standards.
>>48192849
Both are shit though.
All the GD's look horrible and desperate for an update BT style.
I would buy a plastic huge Change lord on the spot, and i don't even play Tzeentch
>>48193072
>>48193082
His soul was consumed by Drogthar and the text says that his soul did not go to Azyr. His soul now is impriosoned inside Archaon's steed.
> Archaon bade his steed to rend and swallow the crushed Lord Celestant. Snapping out, each head savaged a portion. No blue light would ever return to Azyr.
>>48193293
Not an argument.
>>48193312
>All the GD's look horrible
The lord of change aged perfectly well, to the point it's still better than the more recent kairos; not that a plastic kit wouldn't be bad, especially if they took inspiration from that KC's artwork of the silver tower with more varied heads
Is the Lord Relictor not available as a standalone model? I see it in the starter box but not on the site anywhere.
>>48193356
>48193356
I wonder what they'd do about variants, like 1 standard one with staff, maybe one with a Sword of Change built in that turns people into spawn, 2-headed 1 that isn't Kairos?
>>48193331
I'm not going to go searching for the exact quotes about the armies of chaos being uncountable, the chaos gods being invincible and the armies of order having underlined limits and fears with their leaders telling them to not hold hope in actual definitive victory if that's what you're asking; that's usually carnac's job.
>>48193281
I forgot it mentions the specific artifacts form the pages instead of just saying 'artifacts' in a generic sense. So either taking the non-sylvaneth in a wargrove doesn't break allegiance or they screwed up with the artifact description. I'd go with the latter but without a FAQ clarification it can go either way.
>>48193318
Not to mention that Archaon has perma-killed several other Stormcast by feeding them to Drogthar. You can see their helms on Drogthar's body.
>>48193419
Yeah. If they meant the item to be Sylvaneth only within the confines of the Wargrove they probably would have specified.
It's not the end of the world if it reverts to generic Order, at least there's still items and command traits. It's not as cool, sadly.
Holy shit I didn't realize how much of a savings the AoS starter set is if you want to play Stormcast. You can buy 2 of the starter sets for less than the price of the models inside, wtf. And then sell the Khorne shit.
Well, I know what I'm doing if I go Stormcast.
>>48193474
is it snap build in there or just normal sprues ?
>>48193318
To be fair, he's not much of a loss. The moron actually could have had a decent stot at winning the battle if he had listened to his Lord-Castellant and used the fortress to sit out the assault of the varanguard instead of insisting on an open battle against the elite cavalry.
>>48193506
Snapfit. That's the main reason I only bought one starter and got the rest regularly.
>>48193521
Yeah, I saw that after I figured out the price. Still, for the bulk of your force that's fine, and the characters are largely monopose even if you buy them separately (and are easy enough to convert), and if you wanted those specific units (Liberators and Prosecuters are darn good by themselves anyway), it's solid.
>>48193257
Yeah, I get that, but they also put on a show. Super hero movies are also soap opera, but just like the WWF they also put on a show.
>>48193411
Again, not an argument. I am not sure what are you on about.
>>48193742
He doesn't seem to get that the AoS actually having a HOPE of victory over Chaos is miles ahead of FB and 40k.
>>48193757
How he doesn't know this? The writers says as much in the interviews.
The game is called Age of Sigmar for a reason. It's the age of light and hope that comes after five centuries of darkness.
>>48193815
But, that's not metal.
>>48193444
Just checked, Allegiance requires you to have Warscrolls or Warscroll Battalions to count, all the Wargroves have 'Sylvaneth Warscroll Battalion' on them, so it counts even if you field Duardin in it.
Enjoy boys
>>48193872
It's power metal instead of doom metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDu1MtpWIEU
>>48192124
It does break allegiance. The Wargroves say you need the maximum number of "Battalions", not of choices, so you can leave the two Dorf units out and still get Mighty Wyldwood.
(Still fucking stupid though, when will you ever play a full Wargrove?)
>>48192827
Really? An 8€ book? Had a look at it today, lots of awkward color schemes and NO SIGN OF THE BOXART SPITE-REVENANT PAINT SCHEME.
>>48193387
Starter box only. Or Ebay, because lots of people buy that set twice but don't need a second Relictor.
>>48193929
Nope, all the Warscrolls and Battalions must have the same keyword and the two DUARDIN units obviously don't have SYLVANETH.
>>48194016
But power metal is not true metal.
>>48193957
>Battalions cost points
I don't know if i like this or not - then again in my 2k list i effectively have 2 Battalions anyway
What do you anons think?
>>48194025
>awkward schemes and no boxart painting guide
jesus GW...
>>48193957
Thanks based leaker
>>48194061
good as it stops some of them from being auto include and it allows for formations to do more drastic things in exchange for a price
bad as some of them will have a heavy unit tax while some won't but that was a thing beforehand as well
>>48192582
A big loss. The forces of Chaos lost defensible gates to the Varanspire/allpoints. No longer they can move forces from all over the realms at will to either Realm of Fire and Life.
This hampers Chaos's ability to deploy their massive numbers in these two realms which allows the forces of Order to consolidate their gains and up the pressure on the existing Chaos strongholds and armies in Fire and Life. Reinforcements would have to footslog it to reach the two realms.
>>48193929
>>48194025
The Wargroves all are 'Sylvaneth Warscroll Battalions', true. The Mighty Wyldwood is misleading, as you clearly could have a Wargrove that doesn't include Duardin units but still qualifies for 'maximum number of battalions'.
The wording in the (leaked) Allegiance section in the GHB says 'many units and warscroll battalions also have more specific Allegieances'. I think the implication is that Battalions have Allegiances independent from their makeup.
It does then go on to say 'if all the units and battalions are Order, for example...'
So the question is by 'all units and battalions' does it mean all battalions, and units not in battalions, or does it mean all units, including those in battalions.
I agree it needs a FAQ.
So, I am playing a all Skaven list and have been looking into Gutterrunner. They are 60 for 5 and I was thinking of getting 10 to harrass the opponents artillery/support pieces. Are those 120 points a good investment? Would be 20 4+/5+ shots on turn one wth a potential charge.
So, the only allegiances with abilities and artefacts are the 4 main ones?
This saddens my noble Ghoul King, and his beautiful court.
So text after Archaon's victory in Chamon says that he left Chamon in haste to try to reach any other gate to defend it.
Anyone wants to bet that Archaon will pop up in Shyish's Allgate at the moment Nagash's attacks it?
>>48194362
>Nagash jobs to Archaon once again
It's like poetry...
>>48193627
True enough. The Liberators and Retributors here are a mix of starter and regular ones, and apart from the Liberator-Primes it's fairly hard to tell the difference. But converting the heroes into something else is kinda hard. The monopose arrangement makes the mounted LC fairly awkward to pose in such a way that he looks different.
At least with the Lord-Relictor you can just slap a different head on him, replace the relinquary with a banner and call him a Knight-Vexillor.
>>48194311
No, my Sylvaneth army has Alligences + exculsive items
So long as you stay pure Tree people
>Allow me to place 1 Wyldwood before deployment
>ill probably do it within 7-9" of an enenmy unit
>first turn charge my Durthu and 6 man Scythe squad into them
:^))))
>>48194311
Cryptgouls are battleline at any rate, just take the Death allegiance and get your 5++ that way. Sure, loosing Horrors and Flayers as battleline is kinda shitty, but you want piles of ghouls anyway, so it's hardly the ned of the world.
>>48194417
His his gouls will surely be overjoyed to hear that they missed the single most significant change in change in battletomes by one book.
Is Skryre the most broken alliance you can play?
>everything shit out mortal wounds or has obscene rend values
>Engine Coven are stupidly good
>Stormfiends are your fucking battleline
>(arch)warlocks have stupidly destructive spells
Is there something Skryre can't do?!
>>48194489
desu i wouldn't be surprised if they get FAQ'ed in at a later date considering how close they were
>>48194489
Maybe GW will release an errate for the current battletomes? Wouldn't be too much work and it would cover the AoS posterboys.
>Stormcast
>Extremis
>Bloodbound
>Pestilens
>Ghouls
Five books ain't too much work.
So what's the main appeal of the current major factions presented?
>>48194539
Honestly, my Stormcast don't really need it. I mean, it'd be nice to have, sure, but all the custom heroes I've built can be comfortably represented with the basic stuff.
So, I'll happily let the other factions get ahead here.
>>48194565
I personally only started Sigmar due to the Sylvaneth
Playing wooden 4channers + the bonus of having stunning models is enough for me
>GET OUT OF MY FOREST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>48194565
Elaborate. As is, your question is way too unclear.
>>48193957
We had those point values for almost two weeks now, enjoy what?
>>48194605
What makes the faction cool and why is it fun to play?
>>48194565
Order - You get Alarielle as the faction waifu
Destruction - You're just in it for the ride
Chaos - You get the biggest Mary Sue in the lore as the faction leader
Death - You get Skeletor as the faction leader
>>48194751
>Death - You get Skeletor as the faction leader
Well shit, I'm gonna have to start a death army.
[spoilern]Can I use a Sorceress as a Necromancer and call her Evil-Lyn?[/spoiler]
>>48194502
Play engine covens without ugly-ass stormfiends.
>>48194417
What part of "before deployment" implies you get to set it up close to the opponent? In fact, if your opponent wins the roll-off to pick table edges, this might strand your Wyldwood way the hell away from the opponent. And what part of "more than 9" away from the enemy" makes you think you'll manage a first turn charge?
People acting like le ebbin powergamur without even getting the rules, jesus.
>>48194502
Survive. Except for Stormfiends, everything Skryre has is fragile as hell. It's also unreliable as hell and a couple bad rolls can deal more damage to you than to your opponent.
>>48194795
Why HAVEN'T you done that already?
>>48194398
Hey Anon those look really good!
What weapon is the LC on mount wielding? Is it easy enough to switch if I want a different weapon?
Yeah I might pick it up. I was thinking of getting 2 boxes of Liberators and I was going to use Hammer Retributors at least in one squad, so it's all cool. I'd rather the Prosecutors have Javelins, though, but the Hammer ones are alright too. Not to mention could try to sell the Chaos guys.
>>48194939
>Survive. Except for Stormfiends, everything Skryre has is fragile as hell. It's also unreliable as hell and a couple bad rolls can deal more damage to you than to your opponent.
Eh, I honestly haven't had many things that could reach me. So far I have been running:
>12 Stormfiends
>4 Cannons
>40 Jezzails
>40 Acolytes
>3 Wheels
>6 Ratlings
>5 Flamethrower
>10 Mortars
>2 Grinder
>1 Archwarlock
>6 Warlocks
I kinda get shafted on 2k points due to the Artillery limitations (why must Jezzails be Artillery?!) but other than that You can clog shit pretty well up with Acolytes and weapon teams. And with so much shooting the coven missfire or bad dice throws all even out.
>>48194703
Order: You know you'll win eventually, so you get all the shiniest toys first. Also, the sheer variety of factions is staggering. There's something for just about every taste in Order.
Chaos: Even more variety. Also, End Times and AoS were very good to you, so you have some of the most gorgeous kits GW ever released
Destruction: Fun. Pure, undiluted fun. Half the rules are written more to have a giggle while slaughtering everything in sight. As a Destruction player, you don't have to think a whole lot. You rush the opponent with either numerous gribbles or few huge fatsos and have a ton of fun in the process.
Death: Resurrection shenanigans and units for every situation. Since they axed Tomb Kings, you have the least variety in your units, but you still have something for almost every situation.
Anyone can tell me where to find the diferent colour schemes of the chambers?
>>48195077
I found this, any more?
>>48194703
The big four are hugely diverse factions, it's pretty hard to break down the factions down like that, except maybe by fluff. Especially Chaos and Order differ immensly between forces (on account of containing way more armies), so it's fairly hard to make a general judgement there.
Post good theme music for AoS and various armies.
>>48195033
Switching the weapon on the LC is dead easy, assuming you've got some bits left over.
Not that you'd ever want to, mind you, the tempestos hammer is far and away the best weapn he can wield. But I do recommend getting a shield from somewhere and sticking it on his back or somewhere, rerolling 1s on a 3+Save model is significant.
If you take the six retributors from the two boxes (i.e. have one surplus retributor) it might also not be a bad idea to take one of the primes and convert him into either a Celestant on foot by replacing his weapons, or to make him a Knight-Vexillor (of which you'll probably want at least one) by replacing the head of his hammer with some spare banner.
>>48195173
>>48195077
Surprisingly enough, those are found in the Stormcast books. Shocking, I know.
>>48195293
Stormcast Eternals theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzir1B43I3E
A little something from sendspace anon to improve your weekend, gents.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/28kfzm
Which army has the sexiest models? Dark Elves?
>>48195440
Sylvaneth.
Speaking of heroes, the six Lords-Celestant for the store campaign I mentioned earlier are now done.
Sadly (or maybe rather sensibly) the campaign is being postponed until after the offical summer campaign is over, so I guess I have some time to refine them.
In case anyone cares, those are, in order:
>Colchos Stargazer, Ira Hammerhand, Vandrecos Deathseeker
>Hadros Thundercrown, Valha Stormsoul, Minos Ironwill
>>48195440
Sylvaneth by a fair margin.
>>48195405
Many thanks, dude.
So, now after the sylvaneth, what faction is next?
>>48187159
Reading the Nagash trilogy and the cancelled Blood of Nagash books made my thirst for Settra the Imperishable fucking strong. I've always loved the Tomb Kings and the fact that he said FUCK YOU to the Chaos Gods during the End Times makes him GOAT.
>>48195405
thanks man
>>48195512
Savage orcs and beastclaw ogres are probably getting repacks, like the flesh eater courts.
After that we're likely gettin a major tzeentch release, and possibly the followers of Malerion and Tyrion/Teclis
>>48195512
Supposedly Tzeentch and the other type of Duardin. No idea which one will be first.
>>48195560
Finally seeing AoS take on the Elves would be cool.
Which of the Start Collecting boxes is the bets value and/or best army?
I'm not a WAAC guy but I am curious as to where the boxes stand in relation to one another.
I want to get into AoS and was considering the Skeleton Horde starter box.
Hey guys, did the sylvaneth battletome come with different color schemes?
>>48187058
What happens to the vamps in AoS?
>>48195634
They're still around. Even Mannfred.
Any words how Summoning is handled in the Handbook? Or can you still summon everything?
>>48195662
How in the fuck is ol manny still around?
>>48195712
Because he has a Mortarch model.
>>48195712
Nagash brought him back to torture and humiliate forever, for his bullshit in End Times
>>48195624
Best value in terms of raw savings is the lizardmen box.
>>48195624
Best value are
>Seraphon, where basically everything after the Carnosaur is free
>Nurgle Daemons, where you get slightly more than the Plague Drones for free
>Skeleton Horde, where the Mortarch alone would almost be the price of the box
The problem with a lot of these is that they include at least one box that you generally don't want too many of, like Heralds of Nurgle, Mortarchs or Mortis Engines. Thus, they are great to start out, but you can't build an entire army out of them.
Skeleton Horde in particular is a great start, especially if you add some more Skellies, a Wight King and another box of Black Knights.
>>48195626
Yes. I especially like the Ironbark, as their weapons and glowing runes are all done in purple metal.
>>48195726
Is everything Nagash does in AoS retarded?
>>48195769
>The problem with a lot of these is that they include at least one box that you generally don't want too many of, like Heralds of Nurgle, Mortarchs or Mortis Engines. Thus, they are great to start out, but you can't build an entire army out of them.
That's probably intentional.
>>48195774
Yes
>>48195769
>mfw you can totally get a whole god damn army for 40k, if you buy 3 "Start Collecting Eldar!" boxes.
>it is perhaps the cheesiest possible Eldar army at that
Fucking GW.
>>48194398
>Square bases
>That colour scheme
Well done friendo. I always like a good silver and gold palette, and I'm guessing that's the Mars tech paint for the base?
>>48195774
Yes.
>resurrect Manny
>resurrect Neferata
>resurrect Ushoran
>betray everybody constantly
>any betrayal is done in a way that harms Nagash most of all
>have your feelings hurt when someone does shit without your approval
>constantly loose in humiliating ways
If it weren't for based Arkhan holding shit together and managing stuff behind the scenes I'm sure Shyish would have collapsed into nothingness by now.
>>48195875
Is Ushoran an asshole in AoS? Because he humbled up a whole lot in WHFB.
>>48195875
Nagash is the Skeletor of AoS.
>>48195939
No, but he's utterly insane, to the point of being worthless to Nagash. Worse, actually, since he took a significnt chunk of ghouls and other cannibals with him when he fled to actively wage war against Nagash.
>48195969
That's a shame. Does he have rules?
>>48195293
>Stormcast Eternals
Immortals - Apotheosis (though I'd say the whole soundtrack is pretty good for the Stormcast)
https://youtu.be/vlToYO3lvh0?t=47m8s
So are the paint sets actually worth it for GW or is it just a way for them to get more shekels?
>>48196064
I love this picture. Not only does it show exactly how terrifying the Death monsters are, it also manages to put a Zombie Dragon in a pose that actually makes it look good.
>>48196166
By paint sets do you mean those webstore bundles meant for a specific faction? Those are usually worth it for GW but never for you, because even if you pick one for a faction you want to paint exactly like they look in a book, there's always a paint or two you either won't use or already have, so you always have to buy a paint or two that you didn't actually need, which for GW is still money in the bank.
>>48195998
Nope.
>>48194539
>>48194593
From the answers of the rep on AoS' FB page, it isn't planned as there's stuff for each Grand Alliance. I would love specific stuff, but as a Strigoi player I already play lots of Ghouls, so it's not to penalizing, as >>48194444 already said.
>>48195466
Aren't some of them inspired from WHFB characters?
Either way they look amazing, almost makes me want to go stormcast.
Thinking of doing a graywood for my Sylvaneth. Would you guys do a light green, blue, or orange for the eyes, spites and magic sigils?
>>48195393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5oKUIxcBbo
or pretty much anything else from Hammerfall
>>48196263
Yeah, the webstore bundles that're like one-hundred and some change. I only ask because I kind of want to paint and collect over play since I barely get the time to go to the GW in the area and most FLGS mostly don't play AoS.
I just want to paint Stormcast or Sylvaneth.
>>48195769
Got pictures of the schemes?
>>48195466
>Anon did the color scheme I wanted to do before I could do it
Ffffuuuuucccckkk maybe I'm doomed to paint them gold
>>48196352
Orange.
>>48195774
Yes. At least in Endtimes he was smart enough to go to the incarnates (most of whom became the gods in AoS) for help with the intention of betraying them AFTER chaos was defeated.
>“WE MUST. WE WILL,’ Nagash thundered, facing the void. ‘THIS WORLD IS MINE. NAGASH WILL NOT FALL. NAGASH CANNOT DIE. I WILL NOT. NOT AGAIN.”
then in AoS he does exactly that, multiple times, because he prematurely thinks he can win on his own.
>sunblood is BACK IN STOCK
>>48196300
Not him, but I think on of them is Vandrek Crom's soul reborn or something. The pose and gear fits.
>>48196746
OH GOD IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU SO CAN YOU NOW STOP MAKING YOUR GRIEF POSTS RRRREEEEEEEEEEE
>>48196746
Fucking finally. That means you can stop whining now, right?
>>48195769
Sounds good, I'll look into that skelly box then
>>48195808
>Playing Eldar at all
People actually do that?
>>48195875
Those resurrections are even worse in light of the fact that he didn't bother resurrecting Vlad, Abhorash and W'soran. Which were, you know, the actually competent vampires.
>>48196938
They are the most powerful army in the game m8.
