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During the time of the great crusade, the emperor finds you and realizes you are one of his lost sons, albeit perhaps a lazy one

After some ordeal he gives you command of your own legion whose astartes were sired using your genestock

>describe your talents as a primarch
>what is the name of your legion?
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
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From iron cometh strength! From strength cometh will! From will cometh faith! From faith cometh honour! From honour cometh iron!

Iron within, Iron without!
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>>48036492
Byzantios the Purple, Sebastokrator of the Imperium of Man.
>>describe your talents as a primarch
Statesman, Artist, Philanthropist, King, and General. He is the ruler of an empire within an empire, and he rules with an iron rod.
>>what is the name of your legion?
The Kataphraktoi
>>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Planetary invasions and compliance actions. Byzantios has brought many worlds to compliance throughout the crusade.
>>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Byzantios fears the intricacies of the warp and warns against sorcery.
>>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Katakpraktoi remain loyal. They are struck by a surprise attack and quickly put on the defensive at the start of the war, slowly pushing their way Terra.
>>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
They defeated a xenos empire which spanned multiple systems. The Xenos were vile, tentacled monstrosities who could touch the warp. Byzantios razed all of their worlds from orbit in a coordinated strike, then rebuild functioning Imperial colonies in the ashes.
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>>48036936
>>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Invite him to parlay man to man and then beat him into submission (or try) when he arrives.
>>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Kataphracts are extremely proud and haughty. They believe post-human Astartes are the true heirs to the galaxy, and humans are just a fetal stage for the species.
>>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Byzantios has a massive land-speeder called the Quadriga. It has several mounted gun positions and has been used in battle only a handful of times.
>>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
They use advanced drop-ship models rather than drop-pods.
>>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
He offered an empire that could last forever. Byzantios replied that the Emperor already gave him one.
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>Shadow Fangs
>II Legion
>primarch Kalathis the Cruel
>specialists in survivalism and wilderness environment combat, as well as experimental and unorthodox tactics
>traitor
>homeworld located near several major Warp rifts, a Death World corrupted seven ways to Tuesday; think daemonic Zendikar with everything trying to kill you even harder
>purged for being literally too mutated to function
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>>48036492
>describe your talents as a primarch
I'd probably be more of a scholarly primarch like Magnus, Lorgar or Perturabo. I would dedicate myself entirely to learning military strategy and conduct my legion on a more macro scale as opposed to doing a lot of fighting on the front lines. I also would be more adept at negotions or diplomacy than outright violence, though having a legion of transhuman super warrior does afford me some leverage. (Sidenote, I would totally be down for some Psyker skills)
>what is the name of your legion?
The Silver Guard. Our colors would be silver trimmed with purple and our heraldry would be a fox with a grey pelt
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Guerrilla warfare, infiltration and hit and run tactics. A fair fight is an oxymoron.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
I back Magnus fully and posit that humanity should be guided into its psychic evolution
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Emperor and mankind

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
I doubt I would get along personally with the likes of Angron or Russ. I would enjoy working with Magnus on a personal level as well Khan and the Lion on a professional level. I also think that Corvus and I are of similair temperaments.
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Tough to say considering I am just now joining them
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Open communications and try to talk him down. If negotiations fail open fire and avoid letting his wolves make planetfall.
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>>48037602
Pt. 2

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
I imagine our combat doctrine would be frowned upon by strong warrior code types
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Having a jumpack would be neato. I also like the force Halberds the Grey Knights have so maybe one of those
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
I would have a much larger librarius and would work it into the chapter command structure
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
Independence most likely. I chafe under authority
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>>48036936
During the Crusade the Kataphractoi wear purple, gold, and red livery in honor of the Roman Empire of ancient Terra. Byzantios himself wears purple cataphract pattern terminator armor whose purple plate can only be peekead at through the finely wrought golden filigree.
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Balthasar the Bloody, Primarch of the Bloodhounds

>describe your talents as a primarch
Balthasar is unmatched among the primarchs in sheer brutal strength. He is a massive beast of a man with a mane of red fur/hair down his back and arms like blanca from street fighter
>what is the name of your legion?
The Bloodhounds.
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
They hunt the enemies of mankind. When Eldar corsairs raid border worlds from an unseen eyrie, when the remnants of an Ork Waaagh must be hunted down and exterminated, and when subversive elements plot and scheme on compliant worlds, the bloodhounds are there to hunt. They can find any foe, root out any lair, and eradicate any force.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Balthasar is the strongest proponent of censure and an end to all sorcery. He thinks of it as vile witchcraft and superstition.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The heretics. Balthasar is tricked into killing loyalists, and when he realizes he has killed for treachery he goes mad with grief, turning into a wild beast of war. He eventually falls to Khorne.
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>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
The Bloodhounds don't get along with other legions because they are exceptionally brutal to their enemies and have little room for concepts like mercy. Most worlds are conquered and ruined rather than brought to compliance.
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Their raiding parties bring death and terror to the loyalists during the Heresy.
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Cry Havok, and unleash the dogs of war.
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>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Lots of time unshielded in the warp during the heresy leads to rampant mutation and possession.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Balthasar wields a massive power-whip and an archaeotech pistol. Soldiers often prefer to have a close combat weapon and a pistol rather than a two handed bolter.
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Daemonic warhounds and mounts. Think khorne daemonkin
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
He offered them prey worthy of the hunt: astartes.
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Part One.

>> Describe talents of Primarch.
Ace Pilot, Peerless Void Tactician, Values Independence and pragmatism, unusually high reflexes and eyesight.

>> Legion Name
Crimson Warhawks

>> Main Tactics / Characteristics
Covert Strike Teams, Void Combat, Aerospace Fighting, and Air-mobile Infantry (Rapid Redeployment)

>> Nikeae
For the use of Psykers, though very cautious of them, In support of his Brother Sanguinius however supported the White Scar Targutai Yesgei after his suggestion was raised.

>> Heresy
Sides with the Emperor - despite chaffing under the Emperors command and his edicts at Nikeae. mistrusting of Horus due to his popularity and glory hungry attitude, and being loyal to Sanguinuis after fighting closely.

>> Special Friendships
Blood Angels, White Scars. - The First due to a long history of war bonds, fighting together. The second due to similarities in doctrine.

>> Rivalries
Death Guard, Raven Guard - The first due to disagreements between the Primarchs, the second a rivalry as infiltration experts.
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>>48038565
Part Two.

>> How to fight Russ attacking your home-world.
Due to void combat speciality, The chapter should be able to engage (somewhat successfully) the Wolf Fleet, though if not able to defeat outright the Wolf Fleet - they would withdraw from the system temporarily, allowing the Wolves to descend. Once transport shuttles are launched they would be engaged by hidden batteries and engaged by swarms of aerospace fighters. The ground battles would be largely mobile defence, focusing on delay battles in order to attrit the Space Wolves without decisive engagement. Relying on Sabotage, Raids, and Ambush - denying prolonged engagment and rapidly redeploying.

This would likely enrage Russ and he would begin to commit more and more land forces - to which the War Hawks would respond with further evasion, even reducing their kinetic activities to remain undetected.

The Fleet would then return to conduct raids on the Space Wolf Fleet (now less heavily defended) - and once it is incapacitated - the War Hawks would concentrate on isolating Wolf forces, overwhelming small elements and engaging large elements with orbital bombardment.

>> Major defect in geneseed
higher reflexes and superior eyesight, ageing is not as delayed as it should be, limiting their life span significantly (for Astartes)
traditions include honour tattoos, and prestige naming.

>> Signature Weapons & Wargear
Aerial Transports & Gunships. Unique Power Armour that focuses on silent movement and stealth fields.

>> Deviation from the Codex
Unique organisation of independent strike teams rather than typical battle companies, and is governed by a council of strike captains rather than a Chapter Master.

>> Horus promised revenge on Primarchs like Russ and full independence, he would be given autonomy within the galaxy, able to craft his own empire if he wished or wander endlessly, to follow his every whim.
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>describe your talents as a primarch
Sandwiches, flailing, misunderstanding basic galactic concepts

>what is the name of your legion?
hoopy froods

>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
all astartes carry a towel, chaplains wear a bathrobe that mirrors that of their primarch abeit smaller.

>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
missed the council, spent the time outside chatting with someone who claimed to be alpharius

>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
sandwich

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
the remembrances knew many ways to make a sandwich, we traded secrets in the dark.

>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
In orbit around Murder we perfected the sextuple decker roast beef and swiss manwich. Missed the entire campaign.

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?

Prepare him the most well constructed sandwich he's ever seen. He cries at the added buttresses and the cold beefy eyes of our father's likeness.

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
We cannot truly enjoy the sandwiches we create.

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
We carry our towels, as an old xenos prophet once instructed us to carry.

>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?

The towel, everyone questions the towel. Do they not know how useful a towel can be? I've seen worlds fall into compliance by our towels alone.

>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
He offered a second set of hands for sandwich crafting, I told him the only hands that can craft a perfect sandwich are those our father gave us to craft the worlds of man into his empire.
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bumpity
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>>48036492
Tiberius Faust

>describe your talents as a Primarch
alchemist,sorcerer,tyrant and madman

>what is the name of your legion?
The Jade Pyres. colors are green and black.

>what are its main tactics/characteristics
Alchemical and exotic energy weapons(photon thrusters,volkite guns,rad-cleansers,phosphex ,etc) utter annihilation of target civilization

>as a Primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
The warp is no more dangerous than the phosphex weapons we currently use and thus we use it when it is beneficial to do so.
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>>48036492
>describe your talents as a primarch
A scholarly school of talents mostly helpful off the battlefield yet built large and strong with some small psychic talent
>what is the name of your legion?
Fist of mars
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Mechanized warfare
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
I believe it goes too far and that psykers are children of the divine as the emperor surely is a god
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
I remain loyal after briefly wavering
>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
I make friends with both fulgrim and and magnus, both of which almost guide me to chaos
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
I state that we are loyal to the last man and ask russ for trail by any means he wishes
>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
My right hand is crippled from weakened nerves and so to are my chapter's sons weakened in kind
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
The right hand is removed and replaced with a custom integrated weapon or tool different for each marine
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
We look to the machine to much to fully fall within the Codex as exemplified in the machine right hand
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
As my right hand failed me more and more as i grew the pain and depression was clear for all to see, horus played on my weakness and promised me a new angelic hand to replace mine and foolishly i accepted, when his warp power began to run into my arm i cut it off in horror and covered up my failing by cutting the arm off beginning the tradition of the chapter
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(cont
)>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Horus because I made a dozen or so garden worlds into poison hellscapes


>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
most legions strongly disliked me due to my no holds barred approach to warfare,arcane experiments and crystalline mutations. Mortarion,Angron and Perturabo were the closest of my brothers.

>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
exterminated an entire xenos empire (think crusade era tau) in a single week turning their worlds into planet sized glowing seas

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
picture the drop site massacre crossed with the galaxies deadliest rave.
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Editing and reposting from almost two years ago.

I am Kashaln, Primarch and Son of the Emperor

>describe your talents as a primarch
Personal Combat, Infantry Command, Inspiration/Morale
>what is the name of your legion?
The Silver Spears
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Infantry fighting both en masse and in squads, balance between offence and defense, honor duels
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Utter indifference, but I sided with the Emperor for networking reasons
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Horus, specifically allying myself to Slaanesh

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
I met Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus as a pair, and I hate them as a pair. One sees war as nothing more than a grinding of bare strength and endurance, and the other seeks to prettify the affair, as if his legion has something to prove. My sons know the glory of battle, but they do not forget its nature, which is why they shared my disdain on the legionary level.
We liked the Imperial Fists, if only for the silver-gold contrast. Dorn was the steadfast sort, never letting his composure or his warriors slip. Frankly, I admired much about him. That is why I now find Perturabo’s little prank to be so hilarious– no mortal deserves admiration from me.
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
I once stopped a battle against the Raven Guard before it started by slaying three enemy praetors in combat. They “melted back into the forest” as they like to put it, and we were free to chase or ignore them at our leisure. I say the hidy legion should stick to hiding.
Archelus and Chineldu once lost over 2,000 legionaries in a battle with the Orkz because each was trying to get one over on the other by achieving the perfect tactical encirclement. Vid-feed showed that Archelus’ line had a few gaps in it, so I executed him.
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>>48043978
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Welcome the fight, but mock his ass. You don’t seem the type for sneak attacks, Russ. How about we meet on this field at this time and really see who’s really the better of the two?

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
No geneseed problems, but radiation was a hell of a drug even before we started growing tentacles. Also, we generally disdain fighting those we see as unchallenging, such as the Militarum or the Tyranids.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
A special type of rad-beam weapon for combi-weapons, devastators, terminators, and rapiers. Also using spears in melee more often than not.
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Slaanesh simply gives us the chance to be true warriors. We fight as we wish, deprave when the fancy takes us, and usually only ever die in battle.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
Unfortunately, the Emperor often sought to hold our martial society in check for some petty reason or another. It simply became too much to bear.
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>>48043225
What about your name?
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>>48043143
>>48043440 (cont)

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Mutated Ossmudula
generates green crystal instead of bone (think black dragons with Tiberium)

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Rad weapons,phosphex,volkite guns,photon thruster weapons.

>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion now?
Not really into Chaos. probably start worshiping the Nightbringer and the Void Dragon.
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>>48036492

>legion for ants
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This is a cool thread. Here is a next-day bump for you, mr cool thread.
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I assume all the canon primarchs are there, which would basically make the new primarch one of the missing primarchs if it wasn't missing, correct?
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>>48049707
>I assume all the canon primarchs are there
Let's not. New canons are fun.

>>48036936
Legio I: Byzantios of the Kataphraktoi
>>48037320
Legio II: Kalanthis of the Shadow Fangs
>>48037602
Legio III: Kashaln of the Silver Spears
>>48038241
Legio IV: Balthasar of the Bloodhounds
>>48038565
Legio V: ??? of the Crimson Warhawks
>>48038723
Legio VI: EXPUNGED
>>48043143
Legio VII: Tiberius Faust of the Jade Pyres
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Legio VIII: Oramar of the Warp Raiders
>describe your talents as a primarch
Oramar is a wraith in combat and a cunning schemer in command.
>what is the name of your legion?
The Warp Raiders
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
The Warp Raiders are into xenos witchery hard. Their homeworld is an old Eldar ruin near the Eye of Terra.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Oramar was censured at Nikaea for xenos witchcraft. He had learned the spells of the eldar from the ruins of his homeworld, and the Emperor chastised him.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Heretics. Slaaneshi daemons whisper in Oramar's ear.
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>>48050413
>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
>>48050242
Enemies:
Byzantios, Balthasar
Friends:
Kalanthis
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
The Bloodhounds are sent to purge the Warp Raiders for violating the pact of Nikaea. The Warp Raiders flee into the webway.
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
moar liek Balthasar Bloody has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
I try to claim Balthasar's soul in combat but fail and flee into the webway.
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Engerand the Emperor's Storm
>describe your talents as a primarch
Good and quick thinker...but maybe a little bit too quick for the good of his own legion.
>what is the name of your legion?
Storm Hammers
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Overwhelming assault backed by big weapons, both melee and ranged
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Pro-psyker. The Legion make use of them already because, hey mind bullets are more bullets, That and I expect the results to really outweight the risks.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Emperor, even if I might heavily question some of his choices.

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Probably get along with Sanguinius because of the whole assault thing. Plus he's a cool nice guy. Definately a rivalry with Angron and Perturabo, both due to legion focus and personality issues. Likely in good terms with Magnus and Jaghatai because of the stance of psykers.
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Ask him to stand down. Hope it somehow work, if not, I've already asked the legion to be ready to attack them before they attack us. Space Wolves are nasty, if the fight is inevitable might as well put all the chances on my side.

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
By the time its M41 the Legion has probably degraded in overall quality due to aggressive recruitment policies.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
All sort of hammers for melee weapons. Terminator Armor is definitely something the Legion would make heavy use of. Hell I could even see those dopey Centurion things being used later on as an alternate to terminators. Lots of big tanks with big guns.
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>>48050830
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Like hell if I'd respect that 1000 Marine thing, especially if I got way more after the Heresy. I'd organize the chapter into large 'Great Companies' or something similar, where scouts and veterans are formed into companies and fight alongside their regular battle-brothers.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
Most likely tried to convince me the Emperor wasn't getting results well or fast enough and was being an aloof prick. I'd probably agree that statement is true, but unless I'm a primarch who has been mistreated by the Emperor that would not be enough to sway to rebellion.
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>>48050242
>>48050413
>>48050830
Guess that make the Storm Hammers Legion IX. Incidentally, this gave me a very weird idea for a play by post game: an alternate heresy game. Unfortunately, this does seem a bit unwieldy and I have no clue what I would do if a Primarch (player) was to dissapear/quit the PBP.
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>>48050830
What did you use to make that space marine?
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>>48051141
Chapter Generator.
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>>48036492
My name is unimportant, what matters are my actions
My Talents would include running fast, being incredibly proficient with bolt weaponry, and a knack for absorbing and withstanding the warp
Humanities Wrath
Main tactics are encircling and kiting the enemy to tire them whilst peppering them till the drop
Sorcery is dangerous, study of santific power is not
I side with the Emps in the Heresy, for our duty is still not fufilled
We are at odds with the Blood Ravens, as we have some tech they quite like, but we havea tight grip on it.
In a defense of a planet, one chapter master, out of desperation, rammed an enourmous shotgun into a deamon prince, splattering his left side across an entire acre.
We attempt diplomacy, and in failing, slaughter them all.
Major defect is that our Astartes are relatively small, mute, and have autistic rage for deamons.
Signature is in our variety of weaponry, and our warp tech that gives us the capacity for said variety.
We were promised to be given a proper geneseed, but we refused for we cared not for appearances
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I am ENOCH THE RELENTLESS, Primarch of the JUDGEMENT BRINGERS
>describe your talents as a primarch
Single-mindedness, as my name suggests. Once I have set my mind to something, not even my father can get in my way. Penchant for detail and planning, but also prone to dangerous sentimentality.
>what are [your legion's] main tactics/characteristics?
Our preferred tactic is to close with the enemy under the cover of massive artillery barrages, and once the foe's will is broken they are routed in close combat. The Judgement Bringers have other ways of disposing with the enemies of mankind, but will usually contain some Shock and Awe.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
FUCK PSYKERS. Blasphemous abominations to the holy human form.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
FUCK YOU FATHER. A man such as you has no right to rule! Even if I must side with this insane tyrant I will see you deposed!
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>describe your talents as a primarch
Arik Taranis, the Lightning Bearer, a supreme warrior without peer, creating during the turbulent era of the Unifcation Wars, a time where victory and decimation went hand in hand.

Our Lord excelled in causing overwhelming destruction through might of arms and excelled in all manner of things technological with an emphasis on producing robust effective wargear that could be repaired, salvaged and reused in theatres of war.

>what is the name of your legion?

The Thunder Warriors

>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Victory through any means, the ultimate destruction of the opponent is the only directive. Units where expected to operate as both primary and support elements. As such heavy offensives where spearheaded using wargear that was capable of being maintained on the field, as such all Thunder Warriors where inclined technologically. Common ta

>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?

Pyskers have no place due to the nature of the warp. Something we where always aware of.

>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?

Having been obliterated in the last act of betrayal by the Emperor, we would have ultimately sided with neither party. We became warrior kings and brigands, seeking to carve out a place in the Universe.

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others

We beat the shit out of the warhounds once.
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Legio I: The Kataphraktoi, Empire builders, infantry drops and compliance actions. Loyalists.
Legio II: The Shadow Fangs, Survivalist mutants, experimental tacticians. Traitors.
Legio III: The Silver Guard, Psyker scholars with guerilla tactics. Loyalists.
Legio IV: The Bloodhounds, brutal warriors and relentless huntsmen. Traitors.
Legio V: The Crimson Warhawks, Airospace superiority and void combat, Loyalists.
Legio VI: The Jade Pyres, Exotech weapons and Psyker fuckery. Loyalists
Legio VII: The Fists of Mars, Mechanized warfare and tech specialists. Loyalists.
Legio VIII: The Silver Spears, Mass infantry, generalists. Traitors.
Legio IX: The Warp Raiders, Xenos witchcraft and blitzkrieg tactics.Traitors
Legio X: The Storm Hammers, Overwhelming assault and superior firepower. Loyalists.
Legio XI: The ??? >>48051418
Legio XII: The Judgement Bringers, Shock and Awe tactics and melee combat, Traitors.
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>>48051461
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats

We conquered Terra.

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?

We beat their shit in combat using brutality and technology we understand and can recreate as individuals.


>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?

We are prone to psychological meltdowns and have self destruct sequences coded into our genes via super cancer.

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?

Our signature weapon are Pre-crusade bolters that fired higher gauge bolter shells as apposed to the standard current today.

>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?

If any of us exist, the major deviation would be knowing more about the Imperium and the age before it. Using that knowledge to our advantage and ultimately creating technology without mechancium assistance.

>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?

He would have offered a cure to our space cancer probably. Too bad we found it on our own.
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>>48051432
>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
I admire Balthasar for his purity of purpose. I detest Engerand for his impetuousness.
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
For 13 terran days my ships bombarded the city of a heretic who refused to bend the knee. When I personally teleported in with my honor guard there were no defenses left, just broken bodies and a few cowards trembling in the deepest bunker they had. My humiliating defeats at the hands of my loyal brothers usually are the result of my emotions overcoming my rationale.
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
I will give myself up on the terms that my legion is left alone. My sons come before all else, and I would do anything for them.
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>>48051587
>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Even before the heresy, some of my newer sons began suffering from mutations that led to wild and erratic mood swings.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Personally, I wield a BIG FUCK-OFF GREATSWORD. My legion always preferred the heavy bolter and thunder hammer, for their frightening volume
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Fuck the Emperor and fuck the Chaos If my father would not love me, I needed to turn elsewhere, but I saw the Four for what the truly were too late. I was the plaything and tool of the dark gods, and now their final joke upon me and what few of my original legion escaped the pursuit of the loyalists is thus: they have made my relentless name literal, and my sons reflect this as well. We are cursed with undeath, and each time we are slain we awaken somewhere far of, as if from a dream.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
The chance to rid the universe of my father is all I needed, fool that I was.
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>>48050830
Fuck, after this, I kinda want to develop these guys into a proper 40k fan-made chapter. Obviously not as a founding Legion, but still.
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>>48051418
>>48051499
How about 'The Scourge'?
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>>48051499
>>48051832
Legio XI: ??? of the Scourge, Encirclement and attrition warfare. Loyalist.
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>>48051749
Why not develop them into a proper 30k fan-made legion right now?
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>>48051864
I suppose I could do that too. But it does make their lore useless if I ever want to use them in a 40k RPG, which I play extensively.
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Engerand, the Emperor's Storm and Primarch of the Storm Hammers.
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Shit, forgot to fix the backpack.
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Faustus Ascelpious

>describe your talents as a primarch
Medicine and Xenology

>what is the name of your legion?
The Vanguards
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Excellence at biological warfare, medicine, and unrelenting hate for the inhuman. Balanced by love for the human race as a whole and rotations to the homeworld to be with 'families'

>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
I am against it, because I'd rather know the enemy than remain ignorant. Fuck using psykers beyond necessity.

>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Probably the Emperor because I think he's still a better deal than Horus for humanity.

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Friends with the Khan and Fulgrim. Freedom and appreciation for humanity.

>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Created a xeno-virus that infected an entire alien empire and killed them when their capitol worlds proved impregnable to sieges.

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Trying talking my way out. UNLEASH ALL THE VIRUS
>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
None, the medical practices keep them exceedingly pure and pliable to a wide stock of the human race.

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Narthecium, Poisoned and biolgoical weapons. Flamers modified to spread phages. Enjoy dropping viruses tailored specifically to the enemy's genetics that would leave friendly forces unaffected.

>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex
If loyal, they set the standards for the Apothecarium and create an interchapter training center akin to the martian training techmarines have.

>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join? A humantity that will be eternal, if not free.
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>>48051432
>>48051587
>>48051727
Good lord I've been a hardcore loyalist since the moment I touched 40k but typing this shit may have swayed me to be a traitor
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>>48036492

Primarch Rubinek was found by nomads on a world of caustic wastelands and rusted mechanical predators. When grown he became the leader of his tribe and guided them through the wastes. They prospered, thanks to prophetic dreams that time and time again led him true.

One year he dreamt a hellish metal fortress, lair of the world's beasts, and beyond that, a valley paradise. He led his nomads against the horrors and reached their leader, a massive beast of bloodslick gears and rusted blades. While the tribe's survivors fled to salvation Rubinek fought the colossus blade to claw, knowing how his fight would end: buried with his enemy, speared through the heart. So he had dreamt, so it was. The tribe settled in the valley and mourned.

After a time of only darkness Rubinek realized he yet lived. Weak, he disentombed himself from a mountain of metal and found his people. A priestess tended to his ruined chest a day and a night, and in the end he was made whole thanks to a miraculous mechanical heart. She explained only that a great obelisk whispered to her the secrets of life, and gave this heart.

>name?
Was Thunderhearts, icon crossed thunderbolts. Renamed Iron Hearts, heart on thunderbolts.

>tactics/characteristics?
Planning, mobility, survival.

>friendships/rivalries your legion has
Close with Lion & Perturabo. By the time of Corax, Rubinek was not spoken of.

>memorable victories/defeats
Many conquests during the great crusade & the 2nd Primarch found. Destroyed by the Space Wolves. The Emperor ordered the destruction of the obelisk's resident STC AI "god", while in secret Rubinek hid a shard away. He couldn't destroy that which gave him his heart and his people peace. Years later the Emperor learned this and his fury was unprecedented. Rubinek and his Legion were unrepentant.

>major defect in chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Occasionally weak backup heart, replacing this with bionics.

>signature weapon, or other wargear?
Power claw, bionic organs.
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>>48052991
>Primarch Rubinek
I see what you did there.
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>>48050242
Silver Guard actually, but Silver Spears is fine too
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>>48036492
>>48037602
I admit I may have misunderstood the game, I thought the purpose was to base a legion on who you are as a person instead of making a custom legion. Oops.
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>>48036969
Byzantios' pod crash landed on the rocky world of Kanth. Kanth is a world without an ocean, with high mountains, and low deserts, but not enough water to fill the lowlands. Isolationist tribes lived in the occasional mountain valley where water could be trapped, but no large-scale civilizations existed. Byzantios unified the tribes into a planetary empire, building massive elevated road networks across the mountains to unite his people. When the Emperor arrived and told him of his destiny, he saw it as an opportunity to build even more.

Given his legion, the Kataphraktoi, and the 148th expeditionary fleet, Byzantios set out to conquer the stars. Seventeen neighboring worlds were rapidly brought to compliance under the mere threat of military action. The 18th world, however, did not give up its freedom so easily.

The system of Lygos was a strategically critical point. It lay between two large expanses of nothingness, too wide to safely be traversed through warp travel. Lygos would serve as a valuable bridge between the regions of space, and a necessary one if Byzantios was to continue his conquests. However, the Lygosians refused to submit, claiming they had ruled themselves for centuries. Byzantios invaded the world with the full strength of his legion, utterly decimating Lygos' armed forces in less than a day.

Byzantios chose to tear down every city, kill every statesman, and expunge the entire culture of Lygos. Instead he would build a new world in its place, a new capital for his region of space, and named the planet Constantine.
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>>48053064
OP here, I actually accidentally combined two silver legions. Corrected in this post: >>48051499

Legio XIII: The Thunder Warriors, tech specialists who win by any means necessary. Renegades.

Legio XIV: The Vanguards, Biowarfare specialists and apothecaries. Loyalists.

Legio XV: The Iron Hearts, Heretechs and tough marines who can endure anything. Traitors.
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>>48036492
Graha'nak, The Beast in the Void, The Jaws that Bite, The Claws that Catch.
Graha'nak's lifepod crashed deep within a Space Hulk he subsequently conquered and renamed the Void God, which he made his base of operations after being reunited with the Emperor and his Legion.
>describe your talents as a primarch
Brawler, strategist, fear. Always leads from the front, terrifying figure, stands approximately the same height as a Dreadnaught. Keeps to himself and has few friends outside the legion (one or two other primarchs).
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Shock assaults, planetary cleansing, close combat.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Doesn't care, didn't participate. Views the whole edict as "not my problem".
>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Was great friends with Balthasar the Bloody. Constantly competed with him in victories, considered him a fellow hunter. Disgusted by him when he turned traitor, now the legions are bitter enemies.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
With the Emperor. Views worship of gods as a weakness and views siding with the Emps as the lesser of two evils.
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>>48053359
Crap, forgot the Legion Name: The Void Lords
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Ambushed by The Bloodhounds at the beginning of the Heresy after meeting up under the pretense of assaulting one of the last great Ork Empires left after Ullanor. Barely survived but harried the Bloodhounds all the way to Terra, where they participated in routing heretic Forces after they were broken.
>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Astartes are of an unusually large stature in this legion, they rely more on strength than agility, so reliance on shock tactics and fear is key for them in maintaining the initiative in battle.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
A black power mace with three claws protruding from its head, and a short range teleportation device used to get into close quarters quickly.
>what blandishments did Horus (equivalent) offer you to try to convince you to join?
Didn't even try, wanted us exterminated right away. Didn't want to risk us saying no.
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Don't mind me I'm just keeping track.

Loyalists:
Legio I: The Kataphraktoi, Empire builders, infantry drops and compliance actions.
Legio III: The Silver Guard, Psyker scholars with guerilla tactics.
Legio V: The Crimson Warhawks, Airospace superiority and jump troops.
Legio VI: The Jade Pyres, Exotech weapons and Psyker fuckery.
Legio VII: The Fists of Mars, Mechanized warfare and tech specialists.
Legio X: The Storm Hammers, Overwhelming assault and superior firepower.
Legio XI: The Scourge, encirclement and attrition warfare.
Legio XIV: The Vanguards, Biowarfare specialists and apothecaries.
Legio XVI: The Void Lords, brutal beasts who cleanse planets and live in space.

Renegades:
Legio II: The Shadow Fangs, Survivalist mutants, experimental tacticians.
Legio IV: The Bloodhounds, brutal warriors and relentless huntsmen.
Legio VIII: The Silver Spears, Mass infantry, generalists.
Legio IX: The Warp Raiders, Xenos witchcraft and blitzkrieg tactics.
Legio XII: The Judgement Bringers, Shock and Awe tactics and melee combat.
Legio XIII: The Thunder Warriors, tech specialists who win by any means necessary.
Legio XV: The Iron Hearts, Heretechs and tough marines who can endure anything.
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>>48053441
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>>48053569
Lets change the Vanguard to the Oathsworn for the more medical sounding name, and maybe make them mutation free Slaneesh traitors. Purity at all costs, perfection to the core.
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>>48053596
There's already two slaanesh traitors tho
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No one has taken the mantle of Nurgle worshipers, so I guess I'll have the Judgement Bringers be Nurgle in a "at least papa nurgle loves us like you never did dad, you imperial DICK" sort of way
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>>48053768
>nurgle worshippers with daddy issues
FUND IT
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lol is this the Hektor Heresy all over again?
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>>48053805

Yes. Expect the exact same trajectory.
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>>48053805
>>48053821
man those threads were fun as fuck
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>>48053850

Suprisingly that project is actually still going. They update their Legions, Heresy and Primarchs on 1d4chan every so often.
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>>48053605
fug

Fuck it, make them pure then.
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>>48053858
I worked on it back then but I haven't checked out the wiki or heard from any of the posters in a long time.
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>>48036492
I need a break from my Thesis, so let's give this a shot:
Gishgimash of Tepectitlan, Primarch of the Storm Serpents.
Gishgimash specializes in logistics and strategy, akin to his brothers Roboute and The Lion, but is curious to a fault. He found his world Tepectitlan a world of stone and bronze and left it a world of electricity and steel. Gishgimash is as much at home planning the structure of a new city, or the infrastructure network of a sector as he is on the battlefield, but relishes conquest as a unique puzzle.

The legion specializes in hit and run tactics and mobile warfare at the operations level. Legion strategy places a great deal of importance on information, so as to know how best to draw out and achieve local numerical superiority to crush and disorder the enemy. Once a breach in the lines is achieved, Gishgimash prefers an aggressive stance, so as to prevent the opponent from regrouping.
The legion is noted for its cohesion and ability to coordinate effectively with human auxiliae, as well as a high degree of technological proficiency, following its primarch's intense interest in technology, and as such, much archaeotech and armor is employed.

Gishgimash was a supporter of the Librarius project and spoke on behalf of its continued existence during the Council. Following the decision, the librarius was quietly kept operational, though restricted to data gathering operations.

Gishgimash had no hesitation, he supported the Imperium and the Emperor's vision of the future.
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>>48053886

Who were you? What were you? They've cut and changed a few Legions, there's a couple of gaps open there.
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>>48053895
I wrote Golgothos of the Entomed
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So, I guess this detail is worth expanding upon since it seems we might end up developing these guys. I'm the one who wrote the Storm Hammers, mostly as a one-off joke, expecting this thread to die and be forgotten. However their color scheme and what I did write has grown on me.

So its worth nailing down the facts:
-They like storm/thunder imagery a lot.
-They are very offense-oriented.
-Their Primarch has an ancient french name.
From the last one we can assume some sort of feudal planet but then where does the storm thing come from? From there the idea evolved that its a planet wracked by some really freaky, almost alien weather. The human colonist who settled long ago either gave up on proper terraforming or it broke down in the Age of Strife. So I imagine this weird anachronitstic medieval/sword-and-sorcery (in space!) where technologically-equipped lords defend their small domain from other feuding lords, xeno monsters and horrific mutants which live in the storm-wracked environments. Creatures with pale, glowing skins, emitting heat and crackles, glowing brightly when the skies are dark and heavy (which is probably the weather when not storm-wracked).
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>>48054001
>-They like storm/thunder imagery a lot.
The Lightning Bolt is the Emperor's personal symbol. They must have done something awesome to earn the right to bear it.
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>>48053919

That Legion's been given a bit of an overhaul. I'd suggest you look up the changes made to that Primarch and Legion.
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>>48054029
Oh shit, I forgot that! I really did. Well, I'm sure that can be worked in: Fulgrim did get to wear the aquila.
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>>48053891
Gishgimash made odd friends. He was particularly close to Gulliman, who's attitude and strategic mind respected. He was similarly close to The Lion, or at least as close as anyone could be to such a private individual.
Gishgimash was also very close to Magnus, though he thought that Magnus had an unfortunate tendency to look for meaning where there was none and to assume he had control-- Gishgimash firmly believed that the strands of fate were ultimately not within their ability to command. Still, the two got along well.
He found Jaghatai's take on things refreshing and privately shared his concern with the Imperial Truth. He was also noted to be fond of Go and made the game required playing in his own legion and also promoted calligraphy and poetry.
Perhaps surprisingly, Gishgimash got along well with Alpharius, and the two are recorded as having had a number of arcane competitions during their conquests. Gishgimash tried to bring Roboute in on the games, but was unsuccessful, while the Lion does seem to have participated a few times.

Gishgimash respected the Warmaster and Sanguinius. He also respected Ferrus Manus and Perturabo's ability with technology, but never developed a friendship with either.
Gishgimash didn't really understand Russ. They worked well enough when in the same theatre, but no more.

He was noted not to have gotten along with Angron, Moritarion, or Dorn. In the first case, Gishgimash's focus on feints and strategy caused friction with the volitile Red Angel. Moritarion found Gishgimash's interest in the arcane and the technological deeply suspicious and for his part, Gishgimash found Moritarion's trudging warfare inefficient, similar to his attitude towards Perturabo. Though in the case of the Lord of Iron, Gishgimash was profoundly disappointed. He had seen his work and looked forward to meeting the primarch who could design such wondrous cities, but found Perturabo throwing his men into a meatgrinder.
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>>48054038
their wiki page is exactly how I left it, so I guess nothing's changed since last I checked. They had a php forum for a while which was neat.
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I'm thinking updating the Storm Hammers to this color scheme, making their shoulder pads a bit less garish and bright and give their weapons a matching color. What do you guys think? Was the first one better?
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>>48054092

The Primarch Page is very different. And there's a changed version of the Legion History on the Talk Page.
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>>48053572

Graha'nak was found in the 89th year of the Emperor's Great Crusade. The 99th Expeditionary fleet had been tracking a Space Hulk of gargantuan proportions for almost two years and had made regular reports of the devastation it had left in its wake. Numerous alien civilizations wiped out, planets made into charnel houses, the xenos dead filling craters blasted into the surfaces of those worlds. When the Emperor himself came with the might of two of his legions the mighty fleet was stopped in its tracks when the Hulk surprisingly dropped out of warp and found them. A grotesque thing, made up of 43 ships of varying classes and mega-tonnages, the Hulk sat idle and waited for the Imperials to make the first move.

Sensing a presence aboard the vessel, the Emperor, his Custodes, and Balthasar, Primarch of the Bloodhounds, entered the hulk. As they advanced they encountered no resistance. Many of the ships making up the hulk lay dormant, their systems inactive, but signs were found that an alien presence once inhabited many of the ships. Traces of human life were found too, as well as signs of great battles and slaughter from years ago. The Librarians who came with the Bloodhounds could feel the psychic echo of slaughter of ages past within the walls.

At the center of the hulk they found him, Graha'nak awaited his father with all his ghastly court. Bent on one knee, the humans who made up the populace of the great hulk greeted their Emperor, and the Lord of Humanity's long lost son stood out as the largest of them all. Massive in size, Graha'nak was like the giants of Terran myth, his piercing eyes meeting straight with the Emperor's, his body showing deference, his gaze demanding respect. The Emperor knew him as his own at that moment and took him as his son.
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Silver Spears?

Isn't that a familiar sight.
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>>48054077
Perturabo took it as a veiled insult, and the two spoke seldom afterwards.
Dorn was simply too rigid for Gishgimash's tastes, similar to Lorgar, who's fanaticism Gishgimash found off-putting.

In the end, Gishgimash vied for beautiful cities and effective infrastructure with Guiliman, and was known to race with the White Scars, but didn't engage in the sort of rivalry of Russ and The Lion.

Notable Actions:
Shortly after being reunited with his legion, Gishgimash led his men against the Witch-Kings of the Vaal Cluster. These foul warp-sorcerors ruled over an empire of enthralled gene-warriors, each nearly the equal of a Space Marine, but far less stable. After a few probing void engagements, Gishgimash found that the Witch-King's military forces were dependent upon witch-generals to maintain control of the gene-thralls. If the command structure could be disrupted, then the foe's defenses would crumble. However, the Witch-Kings were not unaware of this weakness and designed their forces to compensate. Without a witch to maintain order in a geno-thrall force, they would go berserk and the resulting psychic turmoil would make long distance communication near impossible. Thus, even if a force was broken, the opponent would find it difficult to communicate and exploit the breach. To combat this, Gishgimash and his War-Council developed a daring strategy.
Similar to the XVIth's Pacification of Luna, ships would be sent into Vaal space, powered down to avoid detection. These ships would stake out the Mandeville points in systems to be contested and hide in asteroid fields. Similarly, kill teams were infiltrated across the worlds of Vaal. Knowing that communication by Astropath would be nigh impossible, Gishgimash revived an archaic means of communication from before the dark age of technology, the radio. While it would be limited to light-speed, signals could still be passed in system without too much trouble.
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It's true. History does repeat itself.
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>>48054171
The Emperor introduced him to his brother, Balthasar, then to his Legion, the XVI Legion Astartes. Graha'nak knew them immediately as his sons, for like him, they towered over even their fellow Astartes of the IV Legion. He told the Emperor of his life, how he was adopted by one of the numerous human tribes, descended from the void sailors of the ships that made up the hulk, which he named the Void God. He told his father of his extermination of the xenos that infested much of the hulk, and of the cruel wars he waged against worlds populated by xenos filth and humans so deformed from their base genus they were no longer human.

He formed an immediate bond with his brother Balthasar, for like him, he too was a mighty killer. Graha'nak knew how to kill easily enough, but it was Balthasar who taught him to hunt. For decades after being reunited with his Legion, Graha'nak and Balthasar often found themselves side by side. Competing for the finest kills, comparing their victories in their father's name. of all his brothers, Balthasar was the only one he truly loved, and the tragedy that would make them the bitterest of enemies would drown the galaxy in blood for mellenia to come.
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>>48054124
whoa this stuff is awesome
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>>48054252
With this limited means of communication in hand, the timetable of the operation was carefully projected and each level of the command hierarchy given general directives to allow them to press any advantage they found. They were, in effect, to operate as independent cells all working towards the same goal, all dynamically implementing a broadly agreed upon timetable.
Furthermore, it was realized that while Imperial communications would cease to function, those of the Witch Kings would continue without any problem. Infiltrated forces, then, simply had to monitor communication traffic and activity from the Witch-Kings.

Operations began with multiple, simultaneous planetary invasions, with the priority placed upon elimination of the commanding psykers. Once eliminated, the berserker horde could easily be lead into pre-planned ambushes. Similarly, comm-traffic and energy signatures would be faked on one front prior to a rapid redeployment of assets to another sector, so as to focus the entire military might on a single point. Once behind their lines, infrastructure targets were eliminated, forcing the Geno-Thralls to come to the Storm Serpents. Hampering legion communications did the Witch-Kings little good when they had to come to the prepared Storm Serpents.
Even as distress calls went out from the besieged worlds and reinforcements were dispatched, the second part of the Storm Serpent's plan kicked into action. As laden troop ships, confident of orbital control in-system, dropped out of warp, the concealed Legion ships struck, destroying some outright, capturing the command decks of others and venting geno-thralls to the cold void. The victorious Legion fleet then joined with the invasion fleet to eliminate remaining Thrall-ships before redeploying for the next target. With the planetary communication networks down and the geno-thralls dead, the legions pushed on rapidly, striking at those systems from which the reinforcements had been moved.
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>describe your talents as a primarch
Aubrey the Grey.
A talented surgeon and duelist, Aubrey has been known to challenge gargantuan Ork Warbosses well above his mass.
Aubreys ability to heal himself has been documented as "impressive, even for a Primarch." He has been rumoured to have regrown fingers, hands, eyes and ears after a month of rest.
>what is the name of your legion?
The Eternal Zealots
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
The Zealots prefer close combat, with a close second given to aerial combat, the result is a legion that lends itself to using drop-troop styled assault marines to eliminate high interest targets and destroy the chain of command.

The breaking of morale is another part of the Zealots modus operendi, utilizing a core of astartes known as "The Mentors" taught by the Primarch himself in the ways of negotiation, intimidation and inspiring the masses.
A confused enemy is much easier to defeat.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Aubrey sees potential in psykers but believes they must be monitored properly to allow their true benefits to shine through.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Horus

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Bohemond
Alexandri
Lumierre

Fuck Leman Russ.
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Vermillion II was a human inhabited regressive Knight world that was at a point assaulted by xenos, the invasion woke the Necrons, whom after a decisive victory returned to their tombs to continue their rest, leaving the humans alone.

The humans began to worship the "Death Gods" whom could spew green lightning.
Initially they rebelled against the Imperium, using captured Xenos technologies to repel the Zealots, until the Necrons woke once again.
With intervention from the Eldar, the Necrons were defeated.
1/?
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>>48054459
These fell far more quickly, and with more panic, allowing legion operatives to sneak onboard refugee ships. Some of these were sabotaged directly, with transports exploding in orbit or tumbling from orbit, but for the most part, rumors of saboteurs were started. On some worlds, this was the signal for Storm Serpents forces-- they began quick campaigns of sabotage, before vanishing into the wilderness, their work complete. It was less important that the attacks cause damage than that they spread fear and panic.
This pattern of sudden, overwhelming attack, followed by the spreading of diffuse threats kept the Witch-Kings from regrouping effectively, the timing obscuring the method of operations for the Legion. Refugee and evacuation ships with valuable reinforcements were held up as they were searched for saboteurs, saboteurs who had spent weeks in position, waiting for the panic to spread before carrying out their missions. Though the initial cost in infrastructure was high, the stalling of the Vaal's war plans pre-empted battles planetside, and within two months of the opening actions, the Vaal Cluster had been successfully captured, with some worlds entirely spared lengthy campaigns, their fortresses emptied by the Witch-King's frantic redeployments.
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>>48054536
Ps no repeats from Hektor Heresy. Make a new legion, friend aubrey.
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>>48054579
Bah! No fun.

I wanted to see how my works stacked up.
But if you insist.
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>>48054579

This whole thing is a repeat of the Hektor Heresy. Including the likely outcome.
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>>48038263
>>48038289

Balthasar's pod landed on the desert world of Atria. The people there lived in feudal nomadic tribes, following the snaking meanders of the seasonal river plains. His people lived solely off the hunt, for it was a religious taboo to eat any plant. For the people of Atria, one's own life must be purchased with the death of others. Balthasar quickly became the most powerful warlord on the entire planet, commanding tribes which hunted the whole of the southern continent. When the Emperor arrived on Atria, Balthasar said he would join his father only if he could prove his worth: They would hunt the Black Beast of Ba'at, a monstrous beast of the far wilds who moved with such speed and stealth that no man had looked upon one and lived. For forty days and forty nights Balthasar and the Emperor hunted together, and in that time the Emperor told his son of his grand designs. On the forty-first day they slew the beast together, and the Emperor fashioned for Balthasar a cloak of the beast's midnight-black fur, which he wore even to the end of the Heresy.
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>>48054574
These sorts of tactics were not always successful, but the Storm Serpents were nothing if not adaptable. One notable example was against the Krag'athalax, a foul xenos species, which spawned bio-soldiers in unending hordes. Assaults were initially stymied against the numberless forces of the enemy. It hardly mattered where you struck when the foe swarmed from every building, every corner of the globe.
Several assaults were thrown back before a different tact was taken.
Volkite and incendiaries were brought forth from legion vaults and the attendant forge ships worked double-time to produce additional weapons and spare parts to maintain thousands of volkite weapons. Similarly, Gishgimash negotiated with several Reductor Covenants for Holy Ordinatus Ullator Engines. Various toxins and weapons such as phospex were considered, but it was decided that damage to the ecosystem would be excessive. It was decided, however, that rad weapons would be sanctioned, their cores changed out for elements with shorter half-lives. (Despite this precaution, areas of former Krag'athalax would remain uninhabitable for decades after the campaign's end)
With this technological superiority in hand and the legion's armor gathered, the legion deployed. The resulting campaign was grueling, and even with the mass effect of volkites, including no few Fellglaives, as well as other, stranger devices which reaped a heavy toll on the chittering hordes, as often as not it came down to bloody melee, particularly as the slow firing Ullator Engines recycled for their next shot. After each wave, the Storm Serpents would regroup and reinforce their defenses, designing kill channels, and meter by meter, they took each world, but each battle became easier as they developed better means to poison their foe.
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>>48054715
>Including the likely outcome.
Months of fun?
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>>48054765

Until craniums start going up rectums.
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>>48054752
>>48054752

Of the campaign, Gishgimash said little, though it is said that Perturabo found respect for his brother in that campaign, attested to by the fact the the Lord of Iron sent several members of the Stor Bezask unbidden to advise in the campaign.

When Russ appeared in orbit, Gishgimash simply laughed at him and invited him down to talk the whole thing over. Gishgimash has no use for the denizens of the great ocean. They stand against everything he hopes to build. He tells Russ as much and shows him that he has nothing to hide.

The Legion borrows from the culture of Tepectitlan, including the esoteric traditions of its inhabitants. Poetry and calligraphy are regarded as fine arts and the legionaries are encouraged to partake. Jade is highly valued and often worked into decorations on armor or luck-items. The warp is conceptualized as storm wind-- dangerous, but potentially useful. Self control and moderation are virtues, as is the idea of the individual's duty to their oaths. In native myth, the Storm Serpent is a great, feathered snake, akin to a dragon, that brings the rain. It has a dual nature, a destructive and ferocious side, that tears down the old, and a creative, protective side that makes the crops grow. Each Storm Serpent tries to temper their native aggression with intellect, not so much to suppress their natural inclinations, but to work with them. Destruction is recognized as a requirement for growth, the old status quo must be transcended. Creation and destruction, thesis and antithesis, each blends into the other and the warrior must be able to live with both. The non-negotiable, instilled by Gishgimash, is progress. Without discipline and without order, society crumbles. Without wisdom, the infrastructure is lost and the city dies. With careful steps, bronze age farmers can learn to forge steel. They can learn to make medicine and live longer, happier lives. They can learn virtue.
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>Loyalists:
>Legio I: The Kataphraktoi, Empire builders, infantry drops and compliance actions.
Pretty neat, Byzantine spess muhreenz. Clunky name though.
>Legio III: The Silver Guard, Psyker scholars with guerilla tactics.
Loyalist sorcerors. Cool.
>Legio V: The Crimson Warhawks, Aerospace superiority and jump troops.
I like the idea of space marines who mostly actually fight in space
>Legio VI: The Jade Pyres, Exotech weapons and Psyker fuckery.
Very cool. Asian space wizards.
>Legio VII: The Fists of Mars, Mechanized warfare and tech specialists.
Right hand thing feels silly but I like the idea of a very mechanicus aligned legion.
>Legio X: The Storm Hammers, Overwhelming assault and superior firepower.
mite b cool
>Legio XI: The Scourge, encirclement and attrition warfare.
2spooky
>Legio XIV: The Oathsworn, Biowarfare specialists and apothecaries.
Real neat. loyalists could use a few doctors.
>Legio XVI: The Void Lords, brutal beasts who cleanse planets and live in space.
Dope as fuck backstory for the primarch and good inter-relational stuff with the bloodhounds.
Legio XVII: The Storm Serpents, logistics wizards, strategists.
Real fuckin neato.
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>Renegades:
>Legio II: The Shadow Fangs, Survivalist mutants, experimental tacticians.
[EXPUNGED]
>Legio IV: The Bloodhounds, brutal warriors and relentless huntsmen.
I made these.
>Legio VIII: The Silver Spears, Mass infantry, generalists.
doesn't feel excessive enough for slaanesh but it could be
>Legio IX: The Warp Raiders, Xenos witchcraft and blitzkrieg tactics. Tzeentch?
Xenos heresy is fun and doesn't really exist much in the normal canon.
>Legio XII: The Judgement Bringers, Shock and Awe tactics and melee combat.
IMO too silly and close to ANGRY MARINES. Daddy issues: the legion can be cool but it needs more. Add more nurgle.
>Legio XIII: The Storm Hammers?, tech specialists who win by any means necessary.
Should be the Emperor's chosen. Could be the warmaster?
>Legio XV: The Iron Hearts, Heretechs and tough marines who can endure anything.
Dope reference senpai. Heretech traitors are always fun.
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>>48054924
For Gishgimash, virtue, technology, order, and progress were all intrinsically intertwined and so his legion follows that same general pattern.

The Storm Serpents make extensive use of odd weapons usually limited to the Mechanicum. Volkites are considerably more common than in most other legions. Some Heavy Weapons squads field weapons like Lightning Guns. The legion also fields many Sicarans and Predators, with troops almost always being equipped with a rhino or deployed from a Storm Eagle. Fire Raptors are also very common in the legion and are seen as flying symbol of the legion.

The legion often fields despoiler pattern tactical squads, and favors dedicated transports over either bikes or jump packs, with a particular fondness for airborne transports. Malcador tanks are also a common choice in the legion, prized for their speed and heavy armament.
There's also an elite terminator force, typically deployed by deepstrike for decapitation strikes. Not sure how to explain them, but they'd be like the terminator equivalent of destroyers, rad missiles launchers as an option, rad grenades, no phosphex though, macuhuitl in one hand, volkite in the other.

Post heresy, Gishgimash had a lengthy debate with Guilliman over the merits of the Codex organization. Gishgimash's primary objection was the question of what would happen if the primarchs were to ever disappear. In the end, the Storm Serpents did not wholly accept the codex and maintain a closer connection between successor chapters than is normal, on the logic that it was the highly charismatic primarchs who lead the legions astray and no mere legion-master could cause dozens of notionally independent chapters to go astray.
Similarly, a greater number of airborne transports are maintained.
In short, Gishgimash told Gulliman his problems with the codex and, with the support of Dorn, convinced Gulliman not to push it so hard.
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>>48055103
I'm sorry but Gishgimash is a goofy name.
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>>48054924
The tome is valued and the two primarchs remained close even after their disagreement.

Horus offered Gishgimash knowledge. Problem was that Gishgimash was far more interested in physics and understanding the secrets of the mechanicum than in learning FUNDAMENTAL METAPHYSICAL ETERNAL TRUTH, since Gishgimash (who had had this debate uncounted times with Magnus and Lorgar) denied that there really was such a thing. That and Gishgimash found Chaos to be ultimately self defeating. Even if it was the primordial truth, there was no reason to go along with it. Chaos lacked virtue and virtue was something that the human made, what gave humanity its right to rule the stars. So when Gishgimash was told that order was unnatural, his thought was "what else is new?" Chaos held no attraction for him because there was nothing of value for him in it.

And now it is really late and I am getting tired and less... ability-to-word-well-ish.
With any luck, this thread will still be here in the morning and we can see where this all goes. OP, nice prompts.
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>>48055055
>doesn't feel excessive enough for slaanesh but it could be

The excess comes from their desire to be an ideal "warrior caste" based on the arrangement on the primarch's home planet. That means picking the conditions you get to fight in and having no other concerns besides fighting. Thematically, they are a mix of Indian and ancient Greek.
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>>48055111
Hahaha. I was trying to go for something pseudo-Sumerian, something with the feel of Gilgamesh. I'd also considered something Chinese, but I feel that Chinese just looks funny in English, you know? Zhuanlong just doesn't have the same effect.
I also considered something like Wagashaagish (Ojibwe), or something in Nahuatl, but my grasp of Nahuatl is limited as fuck.

Hmm... there's also always something like Sennacherib.

Anyways, yeah, I see it too. And with the ork, I totally see the potential for an Ork named Gishgimash.
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>>48055253
The important thing is to settle on the cultural theme you want the legion to have. If you want a Chinese legion, then do it; that doesn't mean the name has to be Chinese.

Kashaln doesn't mean anything.
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>>48055300
Yeah, central theme I'm going for is that sky-dragon-storm motif. Throw in a dash of bronze age China and Mesopotamia and Meso-America.
These were people who were getting excited about being able to build a pyramid and a canal, who thought the chariot was hot shit. And then the Primarch comes and invents physics trying to figure out what the relationship between stars and the harvest season is.
So the homeworld has the walled cities of the Ancient Near East and China, semi-divine emperors, massive reliefs of heroes fighting monsters, jade deathmasks and gold censers. There's all the arcane astronomy and concepts of qi and dao of Ancient China and all the oyotl and dynamism of Quezalcoatl. It's that epic-bronze-age epoch that never was.
So there's a complex ritual calendar that's the demented love child of the Yijing and the Mayan Long Count, and a mythic cycle of the storm god and the dragon. You get the idea.
>>48055195
I think I'm going to call him
Xun Tohilcoatl

(For those of you wondering, Xun is a pun on the mayan word for one and Xunzi, an ancient chinese philosopher who I reference in there, in part, with the image of the storm dragon. Tohil is a k'ich'e mayan word for obsidian and a deity, equivalent to Tezcatlipoca, and coatl is Nahuatl for snake and implies Quetzalcoatl here, who's the feathered serpent, ie the Storm Serpent. Taken all together, with the One Obsidian-Serpent, it looks like a proper Mesoamerican name. Awwww hell yeah.)
His underlings are going to have names drawn from Akkadian, Chinese, and Nahuatl, probably.
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>>48055479
Luvin' it.
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>>48055055
i can see where you are coming from with the judgeenent bringers. I did type out that synopsis with the aim that its Enoch talking, and I like to imagine that he has no barrier between what he thinks and what comes out of his mouth. (reminds me of a certain other primarch who wears yellow and also has daddy issues). So we are seeing this from one angle i suposse, and really as long as we aren't surfing a battle barge named the litany of litany's litany, we're in the clear, right?
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If this ends up to be -another- alternate universe "let's remake 40k with our primarchs and legions" thing I will laff
Because it happened before, not long ago
Search for the Hektor Heresy on 1d4chan
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>>48054579
http://picosong.com/9E73/

Still though, you have to hail to the king.
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Valen the Rebellious

>describe your talents as a primarch
Great charisma, tactician, completely faithful to the Imperium and the Emperor, but at the same time not a fanatic. Closer to the civilians than most of the other Primarchs. Known for caring about those under his command.

Landed on a planet whose most of its population was enslaved by a minority, who were mostly nobles and aristocrats. He led the slaves in a rebellion that ended with the fall of the nobility and the Primarch being claimed the ruler by the own population.

>what is the name of your legion?
The Liberators

>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Being one of the legions with lesser numbers, they specialised in lightning attacks to support bigger forces. They're also one of the most famous legions between the common people because of their efforts to protect them from the enemies of mankind. They also try to not create collateral damage in the the population when invading a human planet that isn't yet until Imperial control.

>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Valen sees potential on psychic powers, but agrees it must be keep under strict control.

>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Emperor and his Imperium. While the Heresy is happening the legion tries to recue as many loyalists from the traitor legions as possible, giving them a second chance to fight for the Emperor. All planets conquered/liberated by the legion had to be conquered by the traitor forces; as none of them were willing to switch sides.
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>>48056854
>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
They get along with most legions, though have a special liking for those who also treat the civilians correctly, such as the Salamanders. They're seen as intermediaries when a conflict between two legions appear.
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats

For the legion, there's nothing more memorable than a population freeding itself from local tyranny (with a little imperial support if anything) and accepting the Emperor of mankind and his Imperium in the process.
One of their biggest victories was the support in the rebellion and liberation of five heavily populated star systems that used to form a little empire of its own. No other Imperial forces apart from the Liberators helped the rebellion.

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?Order to not open fire on the Wolf Fleet, open communications and invite Leman to land in the planet to talk, and make sure he understands we're on the same side.

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
The process to turn recruits into marines is bigger than usual. The recruits who fail the initiation can still be of use to the Imperium, and they're sent into the Imperial armies to continue to fight for the Emperor there.

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Cameleoline cloaks not used only for the scouts, but for most brothers performing infiltration operations.


>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
They keep a much bigger scout force than the usual, because of both their style of combat and their geneseed defect. Their squads are used to act independently from the rest of the main force and to support any near ally forces, normally the Imperial Guard.
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>>48036492
Lucius Alabaster, primarch of the third legion, was deposited on the frigid feudal world of Baldurion by the runious powers after being spirited away from the Emperor's gene laboratories. While the climate was fierce and winters were long, the local populace had created numerous independent city states across the planet's main landmass.
It was one of these nations, ruled by house Alabaster that discovered the young primarch during a hunting expedition. The boy appeared no older than ten, had matted brown hair, was clothed in animal pelts that were pressumably self crafted. He had a pale complexion but seemed to possesses a healthy glow about him and had a distinct aura of knowledge and importance. Intrigued by this strange youth, the head of house Alabaster brought him back to his household for tutelage and gave him the name Lucius.
Lucius immediately picked up the native Baldurion tongue and it was not long before he had learned all that his mentors could teach him. Along with his prodigious knowledge, he also grew in size at an astounding rate. Within two terran standard years he matched the height of the tallest of the household. Within three he towered over all in the city, his enormous frame complimented with handsome features and flowing brown hair.
During this time Lucius had become fast friends with the oldest son and heir of the family, Malcolm. While Lucius had learned much from his tutors, it was Malcolm that taught him how to fight. They would spar and discuss military stratagem constantly, each complimenting the other's skills. Soon the pair were inseperable.
At Malcolm's urging, and after realizing what an asset Lucian had become, Malcolm's father formally adopted him as his son and welcomed him into house Alabaster.
While Lucius was thrilled by the prospect of finally being a true part of the family he had grown up in, the good times would not last.
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blump
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>>48053569
>>48055043
>>48044112
>Legio VII: The Fists of Mars, Mechanized warfare and tech specialists.
>>48043225
Primarch Marcus Sinistram here

>>48055043
I wrote mine up as if i had ascended myself, the whole right hand thing is a real issue for me, just thought i'd mention i didn't pluck it out of thin air

>>48049707
>>48050242
So if there are only new legions then who is our horus or is he the only one that stays?
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NOT AGAIN

NOT AGAAAAAIN
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>>48060136
With the greater attention on legions from FW, thus is just a similar thing to tg's chapters. Sometimes it's going to be great. Sometimes not. With any luck, we'll be better at it this time around.
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>>48060706
Hektor Heresy didn't go away, it's still being steadily getting a trickle of updates and rewrites. I'd be more than happy to welcome anyone to it, as well. We've still got a hunger for writers, even tho we have about a dozen still.
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>>48060136
I gotta say I liked the Hektor Heresy, it's too bad for me I missed the first time around, though however this particular HERESY goes, I intend to make myself a force of Iron Hearts marines in mmii Crusade armor. Pictures in the foreseeable future maybe.
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>>48062298
Looking forward to it.
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>>48055479
If we're going with totally new primarchs, then I might throw in a gene seed defect causing something like Ash-Blindness. Less the physical hunger of the red thirst or a rage, than a straight animalistic need to tear and rend, so as to keep with that theme of duality. A very cerebral legion with a half hidden savage heart. Their response is to try to work with it and channel it rather than truly suppress it.

I might also give Xun Tohilcoatl a pair of quetzal's wings--less angelic than evocative of a forgotten god, more like magnus, a being dredged up from forgotten myth of humanities savage past than the heavenly paragon of Sanguinius.
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>>48036492

Vantris the Lich

>describe your talents as a primarch

Necromatic psyker, determined fighter, unorthadox tactician.

>>what is the name of your legion?

The Undying

>>what are its main tactics/characteristics?

Swarm the enemy with the resurrected corpses of killed enemies, cleansing worlds of life, terror tactics. Vantris is one who gladly makes sure that any xenos or traitors will meet a demise at the hands of the dead

>>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?

The Warp is merely a tool to be used when needed, no more and no less

>>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?

He would remain loyal. Despite how he would feel conflicted fighting his brothers: he must be loyal to his father

>>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats

They once utterly annihilated a world where Orks and Eldar were fighting by resurrecting both the corpses of the xenos and setting them lose on them in waves before making sure the world would no longer be wanted by anyone

>>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?

Good luck getting past 9 billion corpses, but if you do prepare to ask why you're hitting yourself.

>>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?

The Undying have an obsession with finding a way to live forever, on and on without need for anything other than air.

>>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?

Vantis wields a twin ended scythe that can grow chain-weapon teeth when utilizing his psyker powers.

>>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?

They still use their undead canon fodder in fights, and they don't abide to the less or 1,000 marines rule.
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>>48063076

Horus promised Varis the gift of eternal life and the power to truly resurrect the dead. Varis replied thusly: "My brother. I know of what may come to pass if I were to join those who dwell within the warp. I only wish that you realize the folly soon"
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>>48062298
You didn't miss it. I just said, we still have a dozen writers working on it. We've had around 50k words added in the past month to 20+ articles.
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>>48063520
How do you guys communicate? Talk pages? IRC?
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>>48063529
Skype mostly
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>>48063699
ugh that's the fucking worst
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>>48063498
Storm Serpents-- I'm pretty sure Sky Serpents has already been used.
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>>48063767
>Storm Hammers
>Thunder Warriors
>Storm Serpents

stahp
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>>48063702
There are better, but on the flip side, everybody had skype, so nobody had to jump through hoops installing new software just to jump in
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>>48063813
Yeah, it is a bit much. Granted I'd come up with the name trying to avoid things like Wolves and Iron. As opposed to the much more common storm motif here. I am open to suggestions.
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>>48064001
The only Sky Serpents in canon canon are the Dark Eldar cadre of duke Sliscuss. I think that's fairly reasonable name overlap for a 30k fan-canon. Stick with it.
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>>48064001
>>48064039
Speaking of name overlap, how has nobody mentioned that Thunder Warriors are already a pretty big thing?
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>>48036492
Anders Kor, Freer of Men

>describe your talents as a primarch
Adept in Single Combat, Coordinating with Other Forces
>what is the name of your legion?
Paladins of Silver
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Large focus on individuals working in tandem, with artillery support. While every man's fight is his own, that doesn't mean he fights by himself. Work especially well with the Imperial Guard.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Did not attend. No reason to.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Anders and the Paladins of Silver would choose no side. Whatever the result of his brothers fighting, the Paladins would defend the common man to the best of his abilities.

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Wherever there is humanity, the Paladins of Silver have friends. Imperial Guard, Mechanicus, Space Marines, it doesn't matter.

There is a particularly strange attitude towards the Eldar. They have, on many occasions, worked with the Paladins only to stab them in the back. This is a matter of great sorrow, for the Paladins believe they should be working together.


>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
For some reason, the records of the Paladins of Silver's achievements are classified. There can be no real knowing of just how many times they have won or lost.
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Demand a fair trial. It is entirely possible for this to be true, but has gone unnoticed.

Cont'd...
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>>48064228
>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Paladins of Silver, while standing up for what they believe is righteous and good, have a strange lack of emotion. While they have expressed their anger, sadness, and elation verbally, their facial expressions and body language do not reflect that they really feel. It is thought that this is because of a change the brain's chemistry during the unique process of implanting the Paladin's of Silver gene-seed, but not the gene-seed itself.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Master-Crafted Chainswords and Whirlwind Artillery, to support the preferred tactics of shelling the enemy into submission, then clearing out the survivors.
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
There is a relatively high number of marines (more than the Codex would allow for) operating by themselves. They travel the galaxy on their own, and assist the locals of whatever planet they happen to be on.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
None. It was well-known that the Paladins of Silver were not all that faithful to the Emperor to begin with, and would remain neutral to any attempts to depose him.
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>>48064228
>>48064371
I like the "Neutral Rebel" aspect to the Legion, but maybe change the Silver out of their name to something else? We already have three Storm themed names and two other Silver themed names.

Paladins of _______
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>>48064422
Paladins of Kor
Paladins of [Homeworld]
Paladins of Gold
Golden Paladins
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>>48064039
Ah, well, there are far worse things than being conflated with Deldar David Bowie.

>>48064163
Good point.

>>48063498
Anyone know where that marine painter is that lets you do mk II and III?
Tangentially
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How about this?
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>>48064524
>Anyone know where that marine painter is that lets you do mk II and III?
>Tangentially
It's called Chapter Generator. I have it on my computer but I can't find the DL link. It's a pain in the ass though because it's randomized, so you have to keep generating until you get the Mk2-3 helmet you want.

>>48064697
That looks pretty cool
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>>48050242
>>48038565
Oops forgot his name.

Primarch Raydon Falx of the Crimson Warhawks.
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>describe your talents as a primarch
Constaratos the Unbidden, Commander in chief and nothing else, all emphasis on warfare and little else.
>what is the name of your legion?
Vigilant Spectres
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Small unit infiltration and raids followed by emphasis on assault with shock tactics with support from the smaller units behind enemy lines.
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Complete indifference, none of my business if no one harms my legion.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Chaos, aligning with Khorne.

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Submit to him with a small contingent of guards while the rest try to sneak away, cause as much havock as possible if they figure it out.
>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Occulobe being mutatated to the point where hallucinations aren't uncommon, coupled with a legion wide fascination with the inevitability of death. Rituals involving essentially scripture of fatalism and a glorious death can be found aplenty. More often than not, grissly sacrifices of various kinds are involved.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Anything suiting the task ahead is preferred, lightning claws are a favorite.
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
There is little attention for dark gifts, though posessed and mutated mariens aren't uncommon in the assault wave.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
A token thing or two, wouldn't take a lot to be pushed into Khorne.

Honestly not extremely happy with it, I'd love suggestions for improvement.
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>>48036492
>Primarch Bartsharif

>describe your talents as a primarch
He is highly cunning and inspires all around him.

>what is the name of your legion?
Infernal Riders

>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Focus on confusing enemies, winning those within the ranks to their cause, and outsmarting them through masterful traps and tricks.

>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
It's all cool, baby.

>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Emperor

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Got along great with The Khan and Vulkan. The others hated him at first, but warmed up to him.

>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Beating Horus in a duel outside the theater.

>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Step one: build an exact replica of the capital in between the actual capital and Russ' forces.
Step two: build a replica of a toll booth. That oughta slow them to a crawl.
Step three: have the replica capital explode in the middle of Russ' assault
Step four: charge into a melee so large it spills into the next set over

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
It's true how we're..."gifted."

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
None. Although Captain Wakokid is deadly with his bolt pistols. And Captain Man Gogh has his powerfists.

>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Well, with everything calmed down it's too damn boring.

>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
He just double crossed me.
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>>48051418
REDACTED, Warmaster of the Imperium of Man, has no name. It has been redacted from all Imperial records, but even before the heresy, his name was a tightly kept secret. His pod alone among his brothers remained on Terra, and the Emperor raised him as his closest son. His skin and hair were black as night, and his eyes a burnished bronze. REDACTED learned many arts on Terra, including the arts of war, assasination, political intrigue, and rulership. He learned to wield every weapon he could find, and practiced a million accents in a thousand languages. REDACTED is said to have conquered Luna by infiltrating their command structure and tricking them into fighting themselves.

The Warmaster's Legion is called the Eyes of Luna, and their number is XXI. They fight every way that can be fought, for they are the true masters of war. Whatever tactic or strategem is best, they will employ, regardless morality. REDACTED was chosen as Warmaster at Ullanor, where he and Balthasar the Bloody had defeated a massive Ork Waaagh.

Only the primarchs new the name of REDACTED, and only they ever knew it was him they spoke to. He was forever to be known only as The Warmaster.
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>>48064929
Hmm. So their MO is to sneak behind enemy lines and then brutally slaughter everything that moves, sort of like sneaky World Eaters or Night Lords who didn't care about terror?
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>>48066199
More of the former I'd say, small units that go behind enemy lines and go buckwild to cause mayhem and fright while the main forces launch an assault.
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>>48064929
>>48066199

How about an obsession with the hunt or with totemic animals. Perhaps the home world is a neolithic death world and one of the pre-hunt rituals is a psychedelic hallucination where the warrior taps the spirit of the beast which they will hunt or one of great power to help them. They paint themselves or wear fearsome masks and then go nuts.
Something between a nightmare version of a mask dance and the werewolf motif from Volsung Saga.
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>>48066313
>How about an obsession with the hunt or with totemic animals.
Someone else already did that. Try to be unique.
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>>48066313
I like the mask dance part, I'll have to look into that some more for sure. Thanks, bud.
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Saul Sheridan, Executor and First Among the Second Sons

>>describe your talents as a primarch
An engineer, politician, or soldier before an artisan, icon, or warrior. Has designed everything from advanced polymers to new patterns of Titans. Inspires his men and his people through quiet stoicism and unusual humble demeanor. One of the more capable tacticians and strategists of his brothers.
>>what is the name of your legion?
The Second Sons
>>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Shock and awe campaigns, usually targeting strategic civilian or infrastructure targets. Widespread use of chemical and rad weapons. Quiet and almost dour outside of combat. They seem themselves as simple tools in the great machine of the Imperium, with their only cares being ensuring future peace and doing their duty, inglorious though it may be.
>>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Psykers are dangerous material, but a potent weapon when harnessed correctly. Saul is no stranger to dangerous weapons resulting in collateral damage, but also believes many sacrifices will usually be made before victory can be achieved.
>>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
The Emperor, despite suspicions to the contrary.
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Checked.
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>>48036969
I agree Kataphraktoi is a clunky name. Byzantios is a bit silly too. I want to invoke Eastern Roman Empire imagery, but Byzantios is pushing it. I think I'll go with a direct namesake and call him Alexios.

The Legion is sort of like a mix of loyalist Emperor's Children and Ultramarines. They fight quick, decisive battles and then spend most of their time building culture and infrastructure on their conquered worlds. With that in mind, plus the Byzantine greek theme, I'm thinking The Imperial Crusaders, The Imperial Angels, or The Imperial Praetorians.

Symbolism is late roman. Their Legion icon is a red cross, and they decorate their armor with marks of honor such as golden knots and oaths of moment. They bear the Emperor's holy Aquila as an honorific and ranking officers are often decorated with finely wrought masterwork armor. Their colors are primarily purple and red with gold trim.
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>>48066764
Kataphraktoi would make a great name for the elite terminator guard, though. Perhaps all armed with a gladius and a shield or something.
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>>48066666
>>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Disliked openly by many of his more honor-bound brothers due to his unscrupulous tactics and seemingly cowardly behavior in numerous campaigns. Close with Perturabo and Mortarion, and shares some good will with Ferrus and Vulkan but also has philosophical disputes with them regarding physicality and civilians, respectively. Unusually close with Malcador, often has personal correspondance with him. Generally pretty reclusive, preferring to spend time working for days alone on war projects.
>>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
On the forge world of Koloch, almost half a company of marines and a titan legion were destroyed by bombings ordered by Saul Sheridan himself. The planet was putting up a heavy resistance, with a strong military background and some ad-hoc titans of their own. The Fifth company and the Titan Legion were besieged inside a fortified factory, the enemy forces too strong to mount an immediate counter assault and having limited air superiority. The legions Gloriana flagship, Thunderchild, bombed the factory with a full compliment of plasma and rad bombs. Completely eradicating a bulk of the enemies armies on the continent, but also vaporising the marines inside. The incident was highly contentious until it came out that the captain in charge of the defense had recommended the strike to the Primarch. With the planetary defenders reeling from the massive blow, they were quickly mopped up and even contributed to replacing the lost Titans after being subjugated.
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>>48066930
>>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Attempt to have a dialogue with him until the last possible moment, then nuke him to hell with the most horrible WMDs he has.
>>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Despite some increased toughness from their geneseed, and modified armor, almost all of the legion ends up suffering from the weapons they employ. Death rates are significantly higher and marines will usually be killed or interned in dreadnoughts shockingly early compared to other legions.
>>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Rad and some chemical weapons. Standard marine armor is fortified against CBRN attacks, and most squads will have phosphex or rad bombs among them. Irrad cleansers are also mounted on vehicles and some devastators squads. Significantly increased Destroyer Squad numbers.
>>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Used as a sort of dumping grounds for weapons that were proscribed from use after the Crusade, but are too potent to just destroy. Still fields things like Phosphex or Rad bombs. Slightly modified armor to be more CBRN defensive.
>>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
Respect and recognition for the work and lives that he and his marines have put into the Great Crusade and the Imperium at large. Approval of his more extreme military policy. Saul openly turns him down, victory and a bright future are rewards enough.

Think Stannis Baratheon meets Ozymandias for the Primarch, with a splash of Doctor Strangelove. Also, the whole legion is kinda American flavored. Less Roman-esque names. The Marines are probably a gunmetal with olive green shoulders, and will usually customize their scarred power armor with Vietnam-esque decals and modifications.
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>>48066930
>>48067019

So, how many of the original HH guys are here I wonder? Voidwatcher reporting.
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>>48066900
Yeah for sure. Legion units often have foreign-language names. But the names of Legions themselves should probably be in Gothic or whatever.

In the context of a new canon, Alexios would spend the heresy cut off from Terra like Gulliman did. Maybe the Warmaster sicks the Bloodhounds on Alexios' empire and he has to turn the tables before he can go on the offensive.
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>>48067028
THESE CHILDREN MEDDLE IN THINGS THEY DO NOT COMPREHEND.
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So what's the roster at atm?
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>>48064422
>>48064456
Paladins of Kor sounds good to me.
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>>48067019
Huh, I can imagine him having a love-hate relationship with Xun Tohilcoatl and the Sky Serpents.
Perhaps they initially don't see eye to eye, but during the events of >>48054752
Sheridan sends advisers/observers with compliments, something to the effect of "I didn't think you had it in you. My experts are at your disposal" in place of the initially envisioned Perturabo's Stor Bezask.
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>>48036492
>describe your talents as a primarch
Patient, analytical, and insane levels of physical ability, even for a primarch. Think what Bruce Lee was to a regular person. Also known for being diplomatic when approached peacefully.
>what is the name of your legion?
Astral Tigers
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Supreme shock attack troops. Wait for the perfect moment to strike and the hit the optimal target with maximum force. On the ground they prefer blitzkrieg warfare, overwhelming enemies before they have a chance to muster defenses. Utterly ruthless in combat, do not take prisoners once a battle has started. Devoted to physical supremacy, marines train for literal days or even weeks non-stop to achieve peak physical ability.
“A single well timed blow can shatter a spine, leaving your helpless. On the other side of the coin, a hundred blows in an instant will leave your opponent without the ability to defend himself.”
>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Conflicted. Psykers could be an important asset, but also believes humanity shouldn’t need “outside” help to win its battles.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Loyalists

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
Good terms with Jaghatai, Corax, and Curze. Pities Angron greatly but respects his physical ability. Dislikes Fulgrim because he focuses on “frivolous” aspects of the human ideal. Disagrees with Ferrus, humanity should only use technology to expand on itself once it’s reached its optimal state.
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>>48067317
>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Victories: captured several planets in only hours by dropping directly into palaces and seats of power to destroy them directly.
Defeats: Attempted to drop directly into the center of an ork waaagh to kill it’s warboss. Failed miserably. Suffered heavy casualties fighting against a planet that was entirely self sustaining, every citizen could live independently of every other citizen, so there were no points to destroy or capture.
>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do? Attempt to open a channel to have talks. While doing that launch all ships in an all out flanking attack.

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
Push themselves very, very, very hard. Even for Space Marines. Most neophytes die in training or are physically crippled by the strain. Often called cold by base human allies and some other legions.
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Drop pods, drop pods, and more drop pods. Also specially adapted thunderhawks made to quickly carry heavy weapons directly after dropping troops in. Also, muscle grafts to achieve even greater physical ability.
>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Do not follow any particular order or join with any larger force for long periods. Simply go where they are needed and drop in to rekt shit without being asked or asking first.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
Appealed to his sense of honor and duty. The Emperor abandoned the cause of the war and retreated to his palace, why fight for someone so lazy?
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>>48067290
aaaaand colour scheme, in case someone wants it.
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>>48067574
I don't think the colors go together well, I might make the pauldrons brown? Or tone down the yellow?
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>>48067619
How's this?
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>>48054324
Golgothos you should join the skype we're doing now.
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>>48067775
Better.
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>>48066384
What archetypes have we got already?
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Nobody liked my suggestion for the Infernal Riders...
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>>48067775
>>48067775
That's a significant improvement. I'd go for a more mustard yellow if it had to be yellow, but it's your choice.

>>48067291
Definitely. He respects him as someone who is hopeful and wants the best, but also probably thinks he doesn't go far enough in most situations and is too hesitant to make hard decisions.
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Reporting in.

Do we have more Traitor Legions now? I noticed the Loyal to Traitor ration was skewed. More lore incoming soon.
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>>48063813
>>48064001
Well to my defense, the Storm Hammers were the first to use a storm/lightning thematic. Anyway as much as I don't like to use trips I'll be using one for this thread, under the name of the Primarch of the Storm Hammers.
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>>48068159
I'll try and post a traitor legion sometime tomorrow. I've got something cooking.
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>>48062465
The Sky Serpent legion as a whole has a flexible and interlocking command structure. Individual chapters and companies are designed to be more or less self sufficient, but are not wholly interchangeable. Instead, various specialized formations exist at all levels, from Jaguar Warrior companies in many chapters to specialized chapters, such as the infamous Jade Lion or Ereshkigal Guard.
Independent of such formations, various warrior orders and rites existed. The best known outside the legion is probably the Raven Path, the legion's primary techno-archaeologists, but many other such groups exist, such as the Vulpine Talon, specializing in research and design, or the Threefold Gate, the legion's Librarius.
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So, expanding on the Storm Hammers since I haven't fleshed them out as much as other legions were in this thread: they are a quick-to-deploy, very offense-oriented legion. However where most canon Legion/Chapter that are very hard-hitting tend to channel the whole theme of 'going into melee and chopping everything' (World Eaters. Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Black Templars come to mind) this is one where its backed up by a good chunk of what the Forge World books refer to as 'Tactical Support Squad' which are basically an all-heavy/special weapon squad, one made of weapons good for covering your allies like flamers, autocannons and heavy bolters.

So, Storm Hammers deploy rapidly with well-equipped, well-trained troops...and proceed to basically act like a steamroller made of power weapons and heavy firepower with the goal of applying as much force as quick as possible to secure a victory. Its the whole ethos of 'getting shit done!' In their Crusade-era incarnation, they would most likely make use of large, impressive battle-formations (the kind of thing you'd see as an Apocalypse-scale army list) ranging from fast-attack bikes and tanks to drop pod spam. Which mean the Legion most likely lose a good chunk of its effectiveness as soon as its put in any kind of war that turn to long attrition. I see them as flexible enough to *survive* but certainly not excel. Without another Legion more trained and equipped for long-term engagements, the Storm Hammers are at a risk of facing more losses than what would be deemed acceptable to a smaller legion, hence the aggressive recruitment policies (which I imagine would calm down after the whatever-Heresy, as they would split into Chapters...they just would refuse to slim down to 1000 if such limitation was to exist).
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>>48068375
Nice, in the mean time, we can toss around traitor concepts.

>>48068422
More to follow, but out of the dudes we have established, I'm not sure who would really push a codex equivalent.
Xun Tohilcoatl might, but it would probably be on a larger scale/support more interlinking between chapters since his legion already makes extensive use of semi-autonomous units acting as part of a larger whole.
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>>48067028
>>48067142

Actually, we still keep in contact elsewhere. I know we have at least one member who is interested in Golgo's full opinion on his updates, and we would love to get some input from Voidy, though I think he's going to be toned down a bit to fit the needs of the project.
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>>48068422
Nice. I'll write some stuff down for the Paladins.
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>>48068422
Cool. I can definitely envision that.
Does Engerand do this because he wants to knock out his enemy before they can strike back? Because he believes in a belligerent stance for reasons of martial honor? Because he prefers a high risk, high reward style of combat?
Does he choose his landing zones based on how easy they will be to defend? Proximity to the enemy? Some strategic objective?
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>>48068495
Toned down? Bah. I've been stewwing even more outrageous things since we stopped convening here.

I kid, I've actually been streamlining and adding to the Augurs in a reasonable way. Never thought I'd put it to paper though. Where are you guys talking now?

>>48068487
I always liked the idea of Tzeetchian Hereteks obsessed with PROGRESS, but those two slots are already kinda filled. Perhaps legions that have the blessing of two gods at once? Just a thought.

Or Hashut for the Hereteks maybe?
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Should make a new thread with questions that don't involve canon primarchs and repost legion summaries Y/N?
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>>48068580
Hmm? I'd envisioned Xun Tohilcoatl as staunchly loyal, he's too into order. He'd find Tzneetch tempting, but ultimately reject chaos in that without reason, there can be no true progress. He is, in effect, too scientific to go in for chaos, much to the chagrin of the Warmaster, and perhaps one of the heretek legions.
Perhaps the two have a history of friendship... lemme look at the hereteks.
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>>48068592
Canon Primarchs are a useful touch point. Helps both the writers and the reader understand what's going on. It can stay like this for now.
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>>48068592
Y
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>>48068651
Was talking more in generalities, not him specifically. Though I think the Hereteks were talked about earlier in thread.

Anyway, signing off but I hope this is still up in the morning.
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Secrecy is one of the prime concerns of the Paladins of Kor, so almost all accounts of tactics, members, and operations come from eyewitness accounts. This is due to the upbringing of their Primarch on the forgeworld of Derminius. Instead of following the traditions of the Adeptus Mechanicus and preserving the status quo, the Techpriests of Derminius were constantly trying to improve on the technology of mankind. This lead to the planet hiding anything important from prying eyes, lest they be branded hereteks and executed.

While the Paladins of Kor have nothing to fear if their "secrets" become public, it is seen as tradition to only let people know what they need to know. Of course, if the Heresy comes to pass, this would lead the Paladins to butt heads with the Inquisition, but internally this would be done more out of stubbornness than necessity.

When dealing with outside forces such as Imperial Guard or other Legions, Paladins of Kor would refer to themselves and each other as their rank (ex. Battle-Brother, Captain, Veteran Sergeant, etc.). If asked for an actual name, it would be provided, but only if the person asking is trustworthy.

This seemingly paranoid attitude coupled with the lack of emotion would put off anyone unused to it, but once one becomes accustomed to it they will find the Paladins to be very generous with advice, and will see them to be very loyal to the ideals of their Primarch.

Anders Kor is seen by some to be a foolish hypocrite because while he preaches openness and equality, he and his legion are less than forthcoming and very elitist. To those who know him, they are aware that this is only a temporary way of doing things until the Imperium is willing to see that the Emperor is not the perfect man they think he is, and the legion can finally be themselves.
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>>48068744
>>48068744
The madman actually did it he made a new thread
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>>48068561
Hmm these are very good questions:

>Does Engerand do this because he wants to knock out his enemy before they can strike back? Because he believes in a belligerent stance for reasons of martial honor? Because he prefers a high risk, high reward style of combat?
I'd say all these answers are plausible. Which one is the most valid will have to wait tomorrow as I work on a coherent description of the Legion. That said, there is certainly the aspect that a quick victory, not matter how destructive it might be, can end up less damaging in the long war than a brutal war which spand a decade and reduce a planet to a hellhole of radiation covered in battlefield.

>Does he choose his landing zones based on how easy they will be to defend? Proximity to the enemy? Some strategic objective?
Depend on what was outlined in the planning stage (and based on intel) and what end the fight quickly. His initial description does refer to him as a good and quick thinker so its not like he mindlessly deploy 'the steamroller' and hope it works. Battle formations are changed on the fly, just before battle if something new pops up. Of course I'm sure there were situations where there was no obvious course of action (or all seemed equally disastrous) and he just charged into the meat grinder with the legion behind him hoping 'it would work out'. And he probably regretted it a few times.
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>>48068757
Should I repost the Storm Hammers?
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>>48068780
Everyone should repost
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What the hell is going on here?
Can I join?
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>>48067028
Arelex is eternal.
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>>48069147
Fuck yeah you can. Post in the new thread
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>>48067028
EVERYTHING IS SNAKES
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Shall I copy my stuff from the other thread onto here?
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>>48067028
Still here. Always.
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>describe your talents as a primarch
Name: Hector Demeter. Necromantic psykic powers. As skilled as the average Primarch in a fight. Rival for Dorn / Perturabo on the defensive.

>what is the name of your legion?
Hecate's Chosen. Dark Grey with golden trim. Helmets all have bright green eye lenses.

>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Master of siege warfare in much the same manner as Perturabo. Lives are meaningless as long as the objective is taken. Unusually high number of psykers. Raises fallen warriors from both sides to fight again.

>as a primarch, where do you land on the whole Council of Nikaea issue?
Sided with Magnus, strongly, despite not really liking Magnus.

>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Big Emps. Despite being frequently reprimanded by Emps and most other Primarchs. No one really understood why.

>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your legion has with any of the others
No real friendships, but respected Motarion and Perturabo despite how they felt about psykers. Grudging friendship/kinship with Konrad Curze. Hated and was hated in kind Russ, Papa Smurf and Horus. At first though Magnus would have been a good friend but both disagreed with how the warp powers should be used.

>Describe some of your legion's most memorable victories/defeats
Much like Konrad Curze would employ fear tactics to attain victory and ensure loyalty. However was much less subtle. Preferring to gather survivors and allow them to witness their fates as Zombie servants should they step out of line. Very fast progress with great crusade so Big E at first overlooked unconventional methods, until he stepped a little too far over the line. Always prefers human foes.
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>Leman Russ has been told that you and your legion are going to Chaos. Now his fleet is in your home planet's orbit. What do?
Basically bound to happen, has already happened once. Russ won the last time because Hector decided to take the reprimand and hide true strength. Hector knows Russ will more than likely beat him in a straight fight, But has some tricks he has yet to reveal to Russ unless he has too.

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
All members who receive the geneseed develop solid ghostly green eyes. Most tend to also very pale and thin by marine standards.

>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
Usually avoids face to face fights. Does however use a large Halberd, made by Ferrus when fighting in melee and amplifies his physical strength and toughness using his powerful sorcery.

>after the Heresy, what is your former Legion's major deviation from the Codex - or what unique gift does your dark god give your Legion, now?
Still employs Necromancy but hides it from all the prying eyes so not to get sanctioned. The marines employ a modified bolt ammunition that does not explode like normal bolt rounds so that bodies are left more or less intact for the purposes of being reincarnated.

>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
Horus automatically assumed Hector would be forced to join him based on his reputation and because the two disliked each other Horus made no attempt to sway Hector, instead assuming that he would be forced out of the Emperors service.
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These days we have a Skype group chat set up. I'm not sure if you have anyone's personal contact info to join in, but we could always set up an IRC chat.
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