>ITT we speculate about tomorrow's spoilers for Eldritch Moon and how the set will be amazing or fucking awful
What mechanics will return?
What do you think the new mechanics will be like?
Will Maro make a new "mistake" card?
Are Marit Lagers going to die now?
etc etc etc ecttcet
>>47865927
>What mechanics will return?
Madness, Investigate, maybe some new keywords for enemy dual tribes
>What do you think the new mechanics will be like?
Mediocre except for that one new one that's amazing but Maro will feel is a personal failure
>Will Maro make a new "mistake" card?
Magic was a mistake
>Are Phyrexiafags going to die now?
FTFY and also no, they're gonna cry because muh compleation
>>47866052
>>47866052
>What mechanics will return?
Madness will return with out question, as much as I loved Clue tokens, I am afraid they will not return, since the "mystery" is solved in this set. I do hope we have fish horror as a new sub type, like corrupted humans turn into Fish Horror. (This is me hoping it's not Emrashit)
>What do you think the new mechanics will be like?
I am hoping for Madness to get a buff, but I agree with you 100%
>Will Maro make a new "mistake" card?
I think the market speculation will treat it that way, but the only Mistake is Emracool.
>Are Phyrexiafags going to die now?
I agree, the Phyrexia was 100% pants on head retarded.
What time is it starting?
>>47868189
10PM Central Time, knowing Maro, we are getting only one card revealed
Thalia, that is low cost (2-3 CMC) and benefits a creature heavy deck, am really cool with her being an ok card and not a legacy staple. It would be cool for her to be a flip card, but I have no idea what her flip effect would be?
Hope emrakul remains colorless, I need her to run my ulamog edh
>>47865927
magic is deeeeeeeaaaddddd
>>47865927
>What mechanics will return?
Intimidate maybe? It was in original Innistrad... It'd be too big to ask for Shroud, but mer...
>What do you think the new mechanics will be like?
New? Fucked if I know, I'd love something to help the ol' Tribal decks out. Vamps kinda got stunted and Zombies could see resurgence to Tier 1 maybe... Not sure. :|
>Will Maro make a new "mistake" card?
Bahaha obviously.
>Are Marit Lagers going to die now?
I'd love Marit to come back desu... But we all know it's Emrakul... The Planeswalker Eldrazi... ohh boy...
>>47868845
Eldrazi can natrually planeswalk, since they're native to the place between planes.
Complaining about an eldrazi showing up on a different plane is like complaining that a frog can cross a river
>>47868915
Nay a complaint. I was just hoping to see a new face for EMN, then Emrakul as the new walker. That's all. DESU my magic hardon returned when I heard of Kaladesh as the new next block. Very much looking forward to Science: The Gathering.
>>47865927
So we can basically confirm Nahiri the Harbinger is using the clues and drown yard temple to harbring Emracool to the Innastrad party yes?
Also Nahiri a qt
>>47867944
>phyrexia fags are pants-on-head retarded
>but I'm not even though I didn't see emrakul coming the moment the name "shadows over innistrad" was leaked
Holy shit kys
>>47868536
Why? You said yourself you have Ulamog
What we need instead is 5-color devoid emrakul to make a deck with the many colored eldrazi cards
>>47869222
This. Would be amazing for EDH too.
>>47867944
>"phyrexia was retarded"
>"but muh marit shit wasn't because I'm a mongoloid who couldn't see Emrakul coming"
Kill yourself retard.
Nahri will spike over $100 and the new emrakul will be a $30 card with hype that eventually subsides, much like the new kozilek
The new Liliana will be a staple for years to come.
There will be some broken ass demon with hard casting conditions that can get cheated out early.
A lot of artifact hate.
MTG Salvation has this moon looking thing as the set symbol for EMN. How long has that symbol been there? Is that just a placeholder, or did they find out early? I swear to god if the symbol turns out to just be a little moon after all this secrecy and buildup I'm going to blow a gasket.
>>47868942
Eldrazi are not Planeswalkers.
>>47870273
It hasn't been there for long, that much I'm sure of.
Expansion symbol was something I was looking forward because WOTC is never this secretive with symbols (we already know Kaladesh's and Aether Revolt's).
I'll be incredibly butthurt if it ends up being a silly little moon.
>>47865927
>What mechanics will return?
Madness, Delirium, transform.
>What do you think the new mechanics will be like?
There's been word of new mechanics called Emerge, Bloodline, Heirloom and some mechanic that cares about the number of copies of the card in the 'yard. We'll have to wait and see.
>Will Maro make a new "mistake" card?
Oh, definitely.
>Are Marit Lagers going to die now?
Never ever.
From the previous thread, what do you guys think?
The bloodline mechanic sounds shitty enough to be real
>>47871278
If that's true, I hope Emerge spells aren't overcosted just to force you to use it
>>47871278
I would have believed it if it exiled a creature card with the same type. As it is it sounds like bogus.
>>47871360
That's just Kamigawa offering stuff.
Though it wouldn't be the first time they renamed an old mechanic.
>>47871360
>as you cast this spell
What if a sorcery or instant has bloodline? How will it share a creature type?
>>47871278
>HEIRLOOM
if it's real, it will have to do with equipments, mark my fucking words
>>47870269
The new Kozilek sees Vintage play, and is ridiculously effective there.
>>47871461
No shit sherlock
>>47871496
Oh, does it? I knew the card advantage and countering would find a home
Which deck uses it?
>>47871278
Better than Megamorph.
>>47871564
The guy who used it against me earlier was playing Vault Key. Even if you Force it, it still draws 5-7 cards. Unrelated, I think it will be great in my Sisay EDH deck as a counter lock.
>>47871770
That's pretty shit desu.
>>47871770
god damn it
>>47871770
What
the
FUCK
IT'S SHIT
>>47871849
>>47871770
Emrakul > Newrakul
The promised End is a cool name, tho.
>>47871849
That better be a B/W Demon Angel Horror
>>47871770
>Set symbol is a squid
Why not a moon with tendrils?
>>47872044
good lord where is all this sweet art coming from?
>>47872078
>doesn't keep up with lore articles
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/emrakul-rises-2016-06-20
>Gisela is dead, fused with Bruna.
FUCK EVERYTHING. GODDAMNIT WHY CAN I NOT HAVE NICE THINGS?!
I want to see this stupid game burn and die once and for all
>>47872093
>doesn't know an article released on monday instead of wednesday
eh
>>47871948
It's Gisela and Bruna.
>>47872109
This is horrible. I truly hate this with all of my being.
>>47872153
and I'm still fucking salty about it. They had to kill Avaycn, but they had to kill my Damage Doubling Angel Waifu.
>>47872109
But Anon, your waifus are better now. Just look at how close they've become. Join them, anon.
>>47871948
more like B/U/W/R
So how come Emrakul is still around anyways? Did the Jacetice League have their hands full with Kozilek and Ulamog, or did they just not know that it was on Innistrad?
>>47872182
>Wanting to join the fucktoy of the literal flying spagetti monster.
I'm going to ensure I hit that fucking Promised End card with all the burn spells I have. She will burn for costing the world one of my favorite angels.
>>47872220
Only one that left the plane. Well Kozilek might have too, he didn't appear until Bobby hardcasted Kozilek.
No one knew where Emakrul was because you have to scour all the planes
>>47871770
>Protection from Instants
For literally what purpose? Why not, say, Hexproof?
Pretty funny that WotC's focus and hype on the story-line is basically avengers + lovecraft copypaste written for 15 year kids with a pinch of SJW stuff thrown around. Every block has a random minority who's entire character is based upon his/her minority/deficit/somethingsomething and the character is otherwise flat as a cardboard just like the other characters in the story they take such high pride on.
>>47872253
All of the planes? Seriously?
Emrakul could have been in Rath or the fucking Arabian Knights plane?
>>47872347
>t. assmad underage "m-muh marit shit" fag
Hahahah.
>>47872176
They killed off my favorite Angel (Bruna) and my favorite Boros commander. I am beyond shocked
>We are Emrakul. All are Emrak— "Gah! No." Jace pushed the swirling words from his mind with a stern swipe. "And stay out."
Uuugghhh.
The moon is a giant helavault and Tamiyo is gonna figure out how to open it. She's gonna release what was in there before which will probably be some kind of avacyn 1.0. That will help fight off whatever and then they'll trap emrakul in the moon. Calling it.
>>47872403
Dunno, I don't really care about the story, but I still find it pretty bad in many aspects and like to rip on it as WotC takes such pride on their storytelling and it's just mediocre garbage. It's not important to me that the 13 mana mythic is emrakul, marit lage or something else if it's a good card.
>>47872524
It's annoying that Jace can ward out the Eldrazi influence, yes, but it's almost funny how he keeps fucking walking into it again and again because he's literally too ADD to live. You'd think a blue mage trained by a sphinx would have a more disciplined mind.
>>47872659
Lovecraftian horrors tend to be better at fucking with minds than Sphinxes are at warding them.
As for Jace's ability to resist Emrakul? If any Planeswalker could do it, it'd be the one whose whole schtick is mind and mind accessories.
>>47872277
a blasphemous act doesn't stop the promised end.
>>47872524
is there a facebook page or hashtag or something to fire kimberly kreines? has she written anything actually good?
>>47871278
Emerge's effect already exists
>>47872726
It quite clearly does senpai.
It is too scary. I can't stand the creepy shit. I like Monster Mash, but horrific flesh horses aren't my bag.
>>47872277
So it can't have a Tragic Slip.
>Hal and Alena thrown in there to be strong lesbians
Are they gonna get cards or what?
>>47872711
And despite Jace being the best of the best about mind magic, he's still almost getting mindraped by Emrakul.
>>47872799
That's... oddly specific.
>>47872711
I'm not even talking about their skill at entering his mind. He's fine as long as he closes his mind and doesn't lose focus, but he keeps letting his attention drift and then the influence is back. I was saying that Jace seems like the last person who would be suffering death by ADD.
>>47872824
Hexproof stops slip.
So what do you think of what you've seen so far? Yea orneigh?
>>47872799
protection stops damage.
>>47873053
Yea.
I actually really like the art.
>>47873053
Definetely yeah.
>>47873067
Protection from instants won't stop damage from sorceries. Desuuuu.
>>47873067
>sorcery
oh, right, duh.
>>47865927
>more poorly apeing Lovecraft
>angels get constantly Worf'd to show how serious the new threat is
>SJW agenda in plain sight
>pushed cards spike to $50+
>throw mechanics onto shit and overcost it, that'll make fun cards
>Thalia will be overcosted by 1-2 for what she does and will be used as a vehicle to push a new mechanic
>there will be no consequences for Nahiri
>Liliana will come off as an awesome reluctant heroine somehow
These are my expectations for the set.
>>47873053
I like all the weird horror shit. I hate Emmy and the story in general.
>>47872347
>Every block has a random minority who's entire character is based upon his/her minority/deficit/somethingsomething and the character is otherwise flat as a cardboard
Refresh my memory, which character was that in the last couple blocks?
>Watches the access magic show thing
God, Mark Rosewater sounds so fucking autistic. What the actual fuuuuuuuck, this guy is designing sets? Just kill me.
Didn't know Eye of Ugin caused such an amount of buttmad before it got banned.
>>47873175
Alesha in Khans
Not sure about Zendikar
>>47873208
Tazri was black woman I think
>>47873102
>cards cost money
>pushing mechanics
>story is not that great
Have you considered that maybe you don't like Magic: The Gathering?
Also what's the SJW nonsense I keep hearing about?
>>47873102
>Liliana will come off as an awesome reluctant heroine somehow
this is honestly the one thing they are doing for 100% certain, on purpose and makes me the most mad. how do you cast an unrepentant, irredeemable bitch as a heroine? fuck you wizards.
>>47873240
lesbians on muh innistrad.
>>47873175
Narset in Khans (Autism)
Alesha in Khans (Trans)
General Tazri (strong independent woman who is passed up for promotions in favor of men)
>>47873239
She was a woman. I believe she was just really tanned. Zendikar doesn't have black people.
She also had, like, a personality. A story too. She even got a little bit of character development! That she was a woman literally never even came up.
>>47872955
Is the ADD comparison accurate? It's not like Jace is thinking of ponies, only to find himself constantly brought back to Emrakul.
Then again, I was one who held out hope the cosmic horror of the block would be something original to Innistrad, given that they just spent a block on the Eldrazi. I would have thought they'd want to pivot to a new threat for a while, building up the roster of multiversal threats while letting the Eldrazi menace cool off. Show off how the new two-set block structure allows them to pivot quickly between storylines.
Instead they decided to show off how the new model gives them a different way to structure the storytelling, which I guess is okay.
>>47873053
I like the designs on the corrupted werewolf and horse. The humans are kinda meh, but the twin angel look neat. I hope the card actually gets the eldrazi sub-type and not to expensive.
Bloodborne: The Gathering looks alright so far.
>>47873299
Yes it did. Her commander named Gideon as his successor and she got butthurt because "muh patriarchy"
>>47873320
she got butthurt because gideon literally appeared out of nowhere and her years of loyalty weren't rewarded.
>>47873320
>projecting this hard
So far your complaint has boiled down to "there are named female characters"
>>47870273
>>47870363
>>47871770
It's not a silly little moon. But I still hate it.
the story just feels boring as fuck and incredibly formulaic, can't wait to see what retarded way the superfriends + antihero Liliana will kill Emrakul
>>47873250
Oh, that's easy! You throw her at a massive, world-ending evil, and just let her use SNARK and EVIL at something worse than she is. She gets to keep those elements of cruelty and unpleasantness which define her, but also a reason to be on the side of the heroes.
It's like Sarevok in Throne of Bhaal. Or a ton of other characters I can't remember. It's really a pretty common move.
>>47873276
Tazri is neither strong nor independent. She's cursed from having killed an angel and is incapable of experiencing hope or confidance, right up until Kozilek mindrapes her and she has a hallucination of being his loyal slave for trillions of years, waiting pathetically in the wreckage of the plane for her lord and master to return. That finally snaps her out of it and she takes command of the army just long enough to realize that they have barely enough troops left to be bait for the Gatewatch's plan, and then somebody else saves the day.
Man, such fucking pandering.
Narset's story I don't know, isn't she able to like... see both timelines or something? That's autism?
>>47871770
This is the new Emracool so basically like Worst Fears ?
>>47873299
>Zendikar doesn't have black people.
>>47873394
>her years of loyalty weren't rewarded.
You know, if I went to a performance review in a job I'd been in for years and the best I got was "You're very loyal to the company/regiment/whatever", it would be hilariously harsh faint praise translating to "You fill space competently but nothing else". Promotion would be basically out of the question in that case.Hell, even in-story Tazri was a waste of space until the Kozilek story thing. Her boss was right to not promote her.
>>47873468
no narset found out about the story of the kahns and how the dragons wiped them out, ignited but when she almost planeswalked she instead just said no, i need to read more and never left tarkir. also doug beyer has said she falls somewhere on the autism spectrum.
>>47873468
http://dougbeyermtg.tumblr.com/post/112727174244/hi-doug-reading-the-new-uncharted-realms-i-felt
Narset literally has autism.
>>47873492
he was right, but before gideon showed up she was the best soldier he had.
I don't even know what I am doing in these spoilers threads, I haven't played any kind of magic since BFZ dropped and SOI or EMA or today's spoils didn't change shit.
>>47873479
That's not a person though, that's a halo.
Oh, you mean the thing the halo is around? I think that's just some kind of farming tool.
>>47873662
Have a creature then
>>47873464
Throw him a shard of your soul and he becomes good.
>>47873731
Actually that's just a badly burned Kor. Trust me I know my lore.
>>47873276
Don't forget Ashiok
>no indestructible
Pretty much confirms that Emmy dies at the end.
>>47874217
Fuck you and fuck the people whining about nonbinary gender pandering. Ashiok is a mysterious nightmare creature that doesn't even have a fucking face. They made it genderless because it fit and made it spoopier. Ashiok was cool before people called SJW on it and made it into a statement.
>>47874294
>didn't have indestructible in the first place
>ulamog did have indestructible and look at all the good that did
this means nothing.
>>47871770
>Hits Avacyn
>Hits Ormendahl
>Hits Nu Em
>Hits Dragonlord Ojutai even if Always Watching is on the board
>Hits control finishers that are in the air
>All at instant speed
Where were you when Clipped Wings was confirmed best card in Standard?
>>47874339
>hits emrakul
>protection from instands
>>47874435
>Sacrifices a creature with flying
>Targeting
>>47874435
Wait
I'm retarded
>>47871893
>working on my gender neutrois eldrazi deck
>need zombie tokens
>only tokens available now is cis-male or pan-gender.
Mfw
>>47874435
Doesn't target em though, it targets the player
How big do you think the fireball that is going to kill Emmy is going to be? Probably about as big as a 3 shoe boxes, maybe even bigger!
>>47874524
Don't worry, that must be on WotC's high priority list right after unisex bathrooms!
Emrakul is literally shit. Kozilek was garbage. Only ulamog was boringly passable.
You can never go home again.
>>47871770
So, let me get this straight. The fucking promised end can be countered?
>>47875019
And it dies if it attacks something and a medium-sized flock of birds gets in the way.
>>47874915
New Kozilek is great.
>>47875019
Not by instants. Activated abillity or etb counter from a creature works.
>>47872088
When I see this I immediately think of movie/game trailers that use that big *WOOOOOMP* sound.
>>47875165
protection doesn't work while it's a spell on the stack you dummy
>>47875231
its them damn inception horns
you know shits going down when you hear them inception horns
>>47868467
Thalia, Hero of Innistrad ->Geist of Saint Thalia
>>47875308
It's still going to be at least 5 times worst than Geist
>>47875308
it'sThal'rakulnow
>>47871770
Can someone, anyone please explain to me what the point would be of taking control of someone's turn, but then they get another turn to themselves after you control them? Like... what the actual fuck is the point? How does that help at all? You control them for a turn, maybe swing in with their creatures and block shit, maybe kill a few of their spells from their hand, but then they'll just recover from it on the turn they get immediately after that one. Please... for the love of all things, I want this card to be good, and I need someone to explain to me why it might be.
>>47872221
Those burn spells better not be instants.
>>47871770
And why is it not flying in the picture? :/
>>47875501
it's so you can't bounce and recast emrakul to lock them out of the game. a "safe" mindslaver, because fun is bad and creativity is for try hard spikes that make new/bad players have feelbads
>>47875501
Mindslaver's strength was letting you do what you first listed and also essentially giving you two turns in a row.
Emmy's is the stuff you listed (killing their hand and dudes, depending) and being attached to a big flample creatures with some minor protection.
>>47875501
It's probably to balance it. Like, in 1v1, you basically get 3 turns.but in Commander, I feel like you could slam jam NuEm, take control of the player who went before you, and basically skip the other people's turn
>>47875545
Describing a mindslaver lock as creative is ridiculous.
>>47875555
Not how extra turn spells work. I can't Time Warp the guy to my right to get him and me an extra turn.
>>47875555
no you dummy it says you get control that player during their next turn. you wont take over until the people between you have had their turns.
>>47875555
Yeah and then after the targeted player takes an extra turn you get skipped and it goes all around the table hitting the targeted player again before you finally get another turn
New emrakul is an absolute disaster of a card
Designer said this time emrakul wouldn't be banned in edh
They made good on that promise, no denying that
>>47875570
I bet the first person to put together a mindslaver lock felt pretty creative about it
>>47875625
Oh man, an artifact with a sac effect works well with a land that puts artifacts on top of your library from your yard? It is an incredibly obvious interaction.
>>47875659
>mindslaver locks didn't exist until time spiral!
>>47875659
All interactions are incredibly obvious
>>47875619
It is huge dude that will usually cost around 8-9 mana. People will play that kind of effect. And it does dodge a lot of removal.
>>47875308
If she isn't aggressively costed with at least one combat ability and one hatebear ability I may have a stroke.
>>47875677
You could do it with an Arcbound Reclaimer and Energy Chamber, but that's the same sort of obvious interaction but worse.
>>47875681
Usually, but you can't call it creative.
>>47875725
i can call it whatever i damned well please you demagogue mother fucker
>>47875550
So what would have been wrong with, "You take an extra turn after this one, then your opponent takes an extra turn adyer their next turn.", or "Take control of target opponent on his or her next turn, then sacrifice all non Eldrazi cratures." I dunno. Just something to not let them fucking set up again. Blah... I'm honestly just kinda disappointed. The biggest and baddest Eldrazi comes back and... Maro manages to fuck it up because apparently people don't like to have fun with magic anymore. Like... powerful cards are a no no. Why is this happening to mtg? Why?
>>47875722
Why? Like, I don't get the type of person who gives a shit about lore who also wants cards to match previous power levels.
They'll print another good hate bear eventually, why does it have to be Thalia?
>>47875773
honestly, if new emmy was as good/better than old emmy everyone would be crying power creep and wotc trying to move boosters with bullshit and blah blah blah
we're a very hard people to satisfy.
>>47875773
You are underestimating the strength of this effect. Also, Maro does fuck all when it comes to development. Blame him for the color pie, blame him for the simplicity of cards at common, blame him for the increased focus on creatures in MtG, but you can't blame him on the power level of a single card.
And yes, new Emrakul couldn't be better than new Emrakul. Because old Emrakul is already powerful enough to see play.
>>47875801
>everyone would be crying power creep
What year did you come from time traveler? Did Urza's Saga just release where you come from?
I honestly haven't heard anyone cry power creep since some retard did back in RtR, cause it had "the objectively best wrath spell ever made"
>>47875850
Ah yes, clearly, the only people who play MtG are legacy and vintage fans who aren't affected by things like Aetherling or Voice of Resurgence or Siege Rhino.
>>47875528
Anyone have an explanation?
>>47871770
>The most fearsome entity in the multiverse can be killed with ruinous path
>>47875909
What explanation is necessary?
It's emerging from the ground, we are familiar with Emmy we know it can fly
>>47875252
Does that mean I can beat Emrakul by simply denying it exists?
>>47875909
It is flying you fucktarded shit eating little faggot
>>47875954
Yes
>>47875954
ATHEISM IS THE ONLY ANSWER?
>>47872955
I got the impression that the combination of focusing to block Eldrazi influence AND said influence is leaving Jace more open to his mind wandering.
>>47875973
Calm down, son. It's not in the pic.
>>47876031
Yes it fucking is you donkey brained dick licking shit shoveling dingus
It's floating over an innistrad town
>>47873464
Sarevok actually worked towards becoming Neutral or Lawful Good, IIRC. Or I could be misremebering Viconia's story, its been years lol
>>47875987
>Jace watches a the mutated Gideon cut down the last of his mustered forces. The entire rest of the Gatewatch -- Nissa, Chandra, and Liliana -- were now grotesque horrors. Seeing them this way was too much for his mind to bear. He shut his eyes. "This isn't happening," he said to himself. "This can't be real."
>Then silence.
>Before he opened his eyes, he felt a cool breeze blow through his hair. When he opened them, he standing outside of Liliana's manor. He could hear the birds and crickets chirping. The world was no longer tentacled, no longer trying to devour itself.
>"Can I help you, Jace?" a familiarly snark voice called from the manor.
>"Oh, Liliana, I've never been so
you know what i just can't do it
>>47876135
>All of SOI was "only a dream"
>it's an eldrazishit episode
I didn't expect it to be anything else, but I am still disappointed.
>>47876031
It looks like it's perched on the buildings, you dick-stomping shitshelf.
>>47876289
>it's a buttmad kid episode
Didn't want anything else, these tears are good enough.
>>47876467
It seems like it's hovering in the air and just sort of letting its tentacles fall flaccidly over a city.
>>47876289
All these flavors and you chose to be salty.
>>47876645
Emrakul is never flaccid.
>>47875796
>Like, I don't get the type of person who gives a shit about lore who also wants cards to match previous power levels
This had best be a ruse. There's no possible way someone could "not get" having standards. No way.
>>47876721
I get wanting powerful cards. But what's the point of wanting your powerful cards to be your waifu?
If you like Thalia because she's hot, it doesn't matter if the card is good or not. If you like Thalia because she is a powerful card, then it doesn't matter if she is Thalia or not, they can make it a anthropomorphic hamster for all you care.
That's what I don't get.
>>47873847
>>47876078
Sarevok could become chaotic good, but only with the player's intervention. I... Haven't actually had the event series trigger, though, so I think it's more than just giving him a bit of your soul (I do that anyhow, because I'm a moralfag).
But yeah, a lot of times these stories are used to move antagonists into somewhat friendlier territory. I don't think we'll see Liliana immediately turn into a full-fledged hero, but I could see this setting more groundwork for her to become kind of an infrequent ally.
>>47876810
>it's impossible to have standards both in terms of "power" and flavor/story
>wanting both makes you a waifufag
I literally have no image.
>>47865927
>What mechanics will return?
Madness. I hope Undying.
>What do you think the new mechanics will be like?
Mutate/Corrupt as an ETB effect that let's you discard/mill (whatever one has more flavor to losing your mind and being controlled) X to put X +1/+1 counters on the creature
>Will Maro make a new "mistake" card?
Always.
>Are Marit Lagers going to die now?
I don't know why anyone would have actually expected Marit Lage here and now.
I also think Sorin will wind up being the art for the B Oath enchantment as opposed to Liliana. I can see the story writers forcing it upon him to take that oath "for Innistrad" or as a way to get revenge on Nahiri since they will probably make her a mentally corrupted planeswalker that tries to bring Emrakul everywhere.Awaiting kawaii fanart of Nahiri walking with an Emrakul balloon in hand
>>47872524
This is absolutely cringe worthy. Why wont WOTC hire good writers?
>>47871874
>>47871893
Foil tokens?! What event are they giving these out in?
>>47876998
Because not everyone is an autistic piece of shit like you.
>>47876949
Wanting two things that are completely unrelated just seems weird.
Most people I know who want good cards couldn't care less if Jace the Mindsculptor literally had nothing other than rules text on it.
Like when bad Linvala was printed, people were complaining that she wasn't as good as old Linvala. Who cares? If what you liked about old Linvala was the ability, then new Linvala is just another angel you can safely ignore. Them naming the card Linvala doesn't affect anything.
>>47872524
We were just introducing ourselves to the .neighbors. You don't have to be so unwelcoming
>>47877017
>Liking decent writing is autism
Well I learn something new everyday
>>47872906
Probably not.
>>47877097
>Wanting two things that are completely unrelated just seems weird.
What an utterly retarded thing to say.
>>47873250
Because Innistrad is vast in the resources she regularly uses and it's being taken away. Would you let someone take your house or car? That's the way I see how they are going to drive her motivation. And who's to say she won't save Innistrad at a high price to everyone else who lives there? It's a good opportunity for her personal interests.
>>47877161
You should learn how to shoot yourself.
>>47877321
But the reason she's there is that she's not feeling well and she's trying to hop herself up on Innistrad's energy before buggering off to find a way out of the various pacts she's gotten herself mixed up in.
What happens to Innistrad is not important to Liliana. Thus far she's EMBODIED the "I can planeswalk so this looks like a big sack of NOT MY PROBLEM" mentality the Gatewatch rejected.
>>47877005
Prerelease. It says it on the bottom text of the card.
>>47876983
One of the most recent stories portrayed Sorin as a mega-douche. He locked Nahiri in the Helvault more-or-less because he didn't feel like talking to her anymore.
Sorin's oath would be as meaningful as his previous one with Nahiri and Ugin, which he blatantly said means nothing to him. Besides, he's BW. They need a mono Black.
I'm actually hoping the story ends with both Nahiri and Sorin dying. As someone who usually loves good-leaning vampires and initially loved Sorin as a concept, I don't want to have to read anymore Sorin competence-porn.
>>47877097
I literally cant even. There's no counterargument here, because the statement you've made is so inane on so many levels it defies response.
>>47871849
This is Bruna & Gisela?
OK, now i'm pissed.
>>47872906
>>47877240
I was under the impression they already had a card.
They spent the entire first episode running around forests looking for clues.
>>47877375
The trailer already confirmed that she's going to fight for Innistrad. The only question is whether or not she's going to join the Jacetice League.
>>47877512
sigarda still lives, Best angel
>>47877567
Well, the other question is "why?"
What the fuck does she care about in this situation? Liliana has been utterly indifferent to the idea of worlds being destroyed if she does nothing before, the fact she has a summer home on this one does not seem like it's enough for a woman who is terrified of dying to risk death for no observable reward.
>>47872952
Innistrad is full of 13s buddy.
>>47877603
It seems she may be coerced into doing so.
"...he [Jace] began to suspect Liliana. he returned to her manor and tried to mentally assault her. However, the Raven Man protected her and tried to convince her to kill him. Liliana refused to, bringing Jace back to his senses. During the course of their talk, the maddening influence of the cryptoliths reasserted itself and Jace asked Liliana for the direction of Thraben in order to confront Avacyn. A hunched over man named Gared, presumably human, then appeared from the shadows. He informed Liliana that his 'master', the geistmage Dierk, was ready for her and asked her to bring the Chain Veil to him in his tower."
From mtgsalvation wiki on Lili for the SOI block story
>>47877603
Maybe she's tired of running. Maybe she really does care about Jace. Maybe she knows she'll need help dealing with the Chain Veil.
That's my guess anyway.
>>47877652
He meant it was specific in the context of the previous post.
>a blasphemous act doesn't stop the promised end
And there's a sorcery called Blasphemous Act that deals exactly Emrakul, the Promised End's toughness.
>>47877274
>>47877492
Eh. Most people play MTG for a small number of reasons. Your reasons don't seem like they would overlap much.
It is like going to a steakhouse for the fanciest steak and complaining about the side salad.
>>47877733
No, no it's not. I can't believe you're being so dense on this.
If someone liked Thalia as a character, for ANY reason, they don't want to feel like they're throwing their deck away by building it around her.
It would be like going to a steakhouse for the tastiest steak and complaining about the atmosphere.
>This place has damn good steaks, but I wish the place wasn't such a shithole.
How is that a weird complaint?
For that fucking matter, your own steakhouse example is also valid. I can like one thing and hope the thing that comes with it is also good.
>>47877097
>Wanting two things that are completely unrelated seems weird
Food
Water
Clothes
House
>>47871770
>dies to Clip Wings
At this point I might just start maindecking it.
So whats Liliana's Oath gonna say?
>"Yeah, sure, whatever, lets get this shit done, I have demons to kill."
>>47877898
>>dies to Clip Wings
What part of "protection from instants" don't you understand.
>>47877950
Is this a meme now?
>>47877950
Show me where the rules says protection from instants will stop you from sacrificing, you piece of trash
I'LL
FUCKING
WAIT
>>47877950
>protection
The part where you don't understand how protection works. Remember DEBT for protection
Damaged
Equppied/Enchanted
Blocked
Targeted
Clipped wings does none of those things
>>47877950
GARBAGE
A
R
B
A
G
E
>>47877915
6 converted mana cost.
Put a 2/2 zombie onto the battlefield tapped.
"I'm gonna send waves of zombies to fight a giant space god that can destroy everything it touches."
Fuck Liliana. I hope she gets her shit pushed in by Emrakul, and then the Jacestice League after her. Fuck those guys and their friendship.
>>47877821
But I'll still eat at the steakhouse. I won't let the less important aspect affect my experience with the other aspect. If I want a good salad or a good atmosphere, I have other options. The guy says he'll be upset if Thalia isn't good, but if you like Thalia or you like powerful cards, there will likely be both in the set. You just want them to be the same card for some reason.
>>47877845
Sure, but I don't expect my shoes to feed me. They can easily be different things. Why is it important that Thalia be good? As long as there are good cards and there is a Thalia card, it should be satisfactory.
>>47877512
>>47872153
what makes you guys think that?
one of the heads has fangs and it has bat wings so it's probably half angel half vampire
>>47877973
Almost
>>47878091
If I hear about a place that has great steaks, you bet your fucking asshole I'll be let down when the service sucks, the place looks like it was halfway renovated, and they blast dubstep.
>Hurr, why would you care about those things if you came for the steak?
>>47877996
Actually, the zombie hoard makes a lot of sense.
So far, Emmy's been wrecking shit by corrupting life. Anything alive: humans, animals, even plants. Zombies, thus far, seem unaffected.
>>47878161
So, what you are telling me is you are a picky bitch? It is fine to be a picky bitch, but don't pretend you expecting the world from every restaurant and card isn't being a picky bitch.
>>47876810
>If you like Thalia because she's hot, it doesn't matter if the card is good or not.
Yes it does. If the card isn't good, I can't play with my waifu in my deck.
>>47878280
Jesus Fucking Christ.
At this point I have to honestly ask if you're on the spectrum.
>>47878279
Then why did zombies build the summoning temple in Nephalia?
>>47878323
Gisa commanded them to do so for Nahiri.
Fuck. I just realized. No. No, no, no, no, no. Not Gisa, too. ;_;
>>47878279
Well, they already mentioned that Emrakul's powers work on living matter.
It seems like a cheat to me that Zombies, who are living matter reanimated by necromancy "don't count" but angels, who are pure white mana shaped into humanoid form and function, somehow do.
They do mention that Emrakul can't affect things like rock and water, so really it would be easier to do something like kill her with an army of elementals.
>>47878289
You don't need her in your deck if you are just jerking it to her.
>>47878321
I still haven't gotten a suitable explanation why you absolutely have to have both your needs fulfilled by one card, especially since one of those needs doesn't affect deckbuilding.
Call me autistic all you want. I'm not the person who needs fapbait to have good stats.
>>47878359
It may be that living = thinking
Most zombies do not think
Emrakul's possesion starts in your mind then effects your physical form.
>>47878520
I don't even give a shit about Thalia. I just find your idiocy baffling.
If I like a card, I want to use it in my deck. DOES THAT MAKE FUCKING SENSE TO YOU?
>>47878548
>inb4 "why do you like bad cards"
>>47878532
Nah, even algae was affected, so having a mind apparently isn't a requirement.
>>47871770
>Not indestructible
>Gives player an extra turn after you control their turn
>Not win the game unless the opponent is a tricky bastard that plans ahead
I was excepting something bigger, but this is shit on a stick.
>>47878601
You can irreparably fuck up their next turn with the controlled turn, so that's something.
>>47878582
And trees
>>47878548
Why though? If the only reason you like a card is fluff and flavor and pretty art, you don't need to run it to get everything out of it.
>>47878577
I like bad cards. I love bad cards. But I don't need them to be good to run them in my deck. But if you need cards to be good to run them, then why not just run the good cards?
>>47878724
>Why though?
I really don't have an answer to that. It looks like an inherently idiotic question.
Like, I fucking loved Bowser in Smash Melee, but he was garbage in that game. I didn't get to play as my favorite character without losing all the time. Can you not see why this is disappointing?
Do you REALLY consider someone whiny if they complain about loud-ass dubstep at an otherwise fine steakhouse?
>>47878935
You clearly prioritize winning more than playing as a certain character. If that is the case, Bowser clearly isn't your favorite character because you don't like playing as him. You might like the way he looks or his animations, but you don't need to play as him to enjoy that.
If I hate the dubstep enough that I don't want to eat the steak, then I don't give a shit about that restaurant. I can go somewhere else. I guess I could ask for everyone to cater to my every whim, playing only music I like, serving only food I want, etc. but that would be whiny.
>>47879080
Oh, fuck off.
So your belief is that no one should ever complain about anything, ever, for any reason imaginable. It's literally inconceivable to you that someone could want to do well with a style they also like.
My favorite card is unplayable.
>guess it wasn't your favorite card
My favorite character is garbage tier.
>guess it wasn't your favorite character
My favorite bar is playing shitty music.
>guess it wasn't your favorite bar
My favorite food has hair in it.
>guess it wasn't your favorite food
My favorite imageboard has an autist on it.
Nah, you got me there.
>>47878121
Today's story explicitly says they've been fused into a single monstrous creature.
>>47879292
People can complain about stuff that matters. But you not getting to have your waifu also be tournament worthy isn't a big deal. If you want to play tournaments, play good cards, don't bitch about flavor.
MTG has a lot of shit worth complaining about, but complaining that something you already like could be better is the pinnacle of entitlement.
And yeah, if you don't like an aspect of something so much that you actively avoid it, it isn't your favorite any more. You are still on here, despite the rampant autism. Why? Because you are willing to put up with it and somehow feel as though bitching about it makes things better.
Anyway, I'm glad I got through to you. I'm gonna go voice my displeasure with Eldritch Moon in another thread and still end up giving WOTC money, because that makes sense.
>>47879292
Honestly doesn't sound far from the truth
People shouldn't complain ever, about anything
>>47879658
>But you not getting to have your waifu also be tournament worthy isn't a big deal.
I told you already.
I don't care about Thalia. I just think you're an imbecile.
>>47879690
I know you don't, but that's who I am arguing against. It is a stupid reason to be upset.
>>47880229
You think they are errata'ing all wish cards with this being printed? I can see that, since they redid Winter Orb.
Also, card sucks and is boring and doesn't feel Blue.
