Warhammer Fantasy General: Big Fat Vamp Tats Edition
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So looking at Kaleb Daark's stats and profile. I'm wondering where I can find the information on what the runes on his armor do since the Warhammer Battle Magic pdf on Megaupload appears to be from a different edition.
>It's useless because it's literally a third of the available data.
No, one-third of available data is something we don't know. We know it is 1/3 sources of data, but the sample size for another one of the sources is minute because there are relatively few Games Workshop stores in comparison to FLGS.
The only legitimate skew is online sales from GW.
>They're not GWs competitors you turd, it's star wars merchandise selling well around the release of the only decent star wars sequel. Of course it's going to do well, stocks in a company that produced nothing but silicon casts of mark hamiltons ball sack would perform better than most companies on the market at this point.
That's nice. But literally every major Games Workshop competitor on the miniature market has their stocks on the rise, not just FFG (who produce a lot more than Star Wars anyway). By contrast, Games Workshop value only slides. When stock market experts are calling Games Workshop stock toxic (meaning "you will not see a return on your investment no matter what they do, we bet our reputation on it"), you know they are failing.
>>47574980
Who has called it toxic?
Regardless, I still plan to buy enough to net myself a board of directors seat if I ever win the lotto.
>>47574868
>Is that an intentional joke on the old lady who called "Mark Hamilton" hot while Mark Hamill was disguised as a neoTrooper interviewing her?
I knew I got the meme from somewhere but couldn't place it.
>>47574980
>The only legitimate skew is online sales from GW.
As well as online sales from brick and mortar GW stores, who deal in bits. It is still but a third of the data and is almost useless because there's no way to draw a conclusion from it.
>you know they are failing.
Gw failing does not equate to 40k no longer being the top game in murica, gw was failing long before x-wing hit the scene and will be failing long after it collapses. Using it as evidence is this case makes it seem like you just hate GW.
>>47574946
That page was published in 1986 (http://realmofchaos80s.blog (common dog name).com/2013/01/the-malignancy-of-malal-solving-mystery.html?m=1) so you're looking for second edition which was released in 1985. Third came out in 1987, so that's too late.
Don't know where to find that, sorry. But I can let you know what you're looking for.
>>47575079
Considering that's the only data we will ever have your insistence that we just always assume Games Workshop is top dog and 40k the top game is just as stupid as someone saying it for sure isn't.
The only true statement is "We don't know, but the only data that will ever be available indicates X-Wing is on top."
>>47574909
That shadow texture makes it look like her tits were covered in mud at some point.
>>47575073
The best time to invest would have been in 2010, pre apocalypse. At some point GW is going to get smart and begin whoring out fantasys IP to other video game companies (they can make vermintide variants every year for the next sixteen years for example) and the stock might actually be worth something.
>>47575125
My insistence is that you not assume a woman is thin just because the head shot she provided isn't particularly chubby.
>The only true statement is "We don't know, but the only data that will ever be available indicates X-Wing is on top in terms of sales for north america in brick and mortar friendly local gaming stores."
Fixed that for you.
>>47575199
>That shadow texture makes it look like her tits were covered in mud at some point.
Well, Dracula slept in a coffin filled with transylvanian soil.
So it's not far fetched.
>>47575301
I have no problem with some dirty vampire tits.
>>47575199
I think that's mottled flesh and veiny boobs.
Pale people look like that when they get flushed. Pic semi related, can't find a decent example but you can kind of see it here.
>>47575346
Oh I know what it was supposed to be it just seemed like it missed the mark.
Pale goth tits with that single blue vein are hot as fuck by the way, more so if she's got the red lipstick to match.
What's the best way to put together a 9th Age VC army?
Unbound or a specific bloodline?
What models are not worth taking now?
https://youtu.be/0DkfMc3mpwQ
Lore in a minute on Warhammer.
Outriders or pistoliers for my Empire lads? I'm leaning towards outriders for aesthetic and BS4 reasons.
How is Total Warhammer?
>>47577076
Bretty good, I've been failing repeatedly at the campaign and had to set it on ezmodo to learn more, but it's still fun.
(My first Total War ever.)
>>47577076
Single player is fun. Still waiting on my friends to pick it up for MP.
>>47577076
I've been playing TW since Med2 (2006), and think this is the best one they've ever produced.
>>47577076
>>47577901
>>47577926
Also, Karl Franz on Deathclaw with a bound fireball ring is fucking amazing.
Between him and my bright wizard it made the Blackfire Pass 2: Orclectric Boogaloo mission for Ghal Maraz surprisingly simple.
(Also having a shitton of spearmen and halberdiers helped against the giant and spider.)
Enjoy the new Bretonnia models
>>47577901
>>47577926
Speaking of which, do the goblin cavalry units count as "Larger Units" for the bonus of spears and Halberds?
Or is it just cavalry, trolls, mega crypt-ghouls, and giants etc?
>>47578007
Is it viable to have an Empire army with mostly hand-gunners and artillery? I think I can do melee-mulcher armies with most races, but the Empire has the artillery and gunners, so I'd like to use that.
If only our other Legendary Lord was a Master Engineer...
>>47577926
We'll have to see how MP goes. Currently top two spots are held by Medieval 2 and Napoleon. I can't really factor Medieval 1 in because its a bitch to get going. Other than that, I'm liking this way more than any of the other ones.
>>47578110
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean over 50% ranged, no way. Fast cavalry will wreck you. If you mean sitting back with Hellfires and siege tanks, some handguns and a strong line in front of them, then yes, that's my normal strat. You can smash many armies bad before they even reach you.
>>47578010
Best girl. Well, almost.
Excuse me /tg/. If Valkia is a Daemon Princess then why does she function like a Chaos Lord instead of a Daemon Prince?
>>47578058
Hell if I know. I can't imagine spears don't do better against any type of cavalry, but I haven't figured out the intricacies yet.
Goblin cavalry definitely won't beat a spear unit from the front, though, so there's that.
>>47578285
Nero is nice too
>>47578312
Probably because she isn't a daemon princess, she just got a makeover from Khorne.
>>47578110
Replying sorta to the wrong person but my noobish ass uses maybe just under 1/4 to 1/3rd ranged on empire and dwarfs.
Generally you'll want to protect ranged with a mix of different types of Melee.
Usually at least Shielded Spearmen or (Unshielded) Halberdiers to keep cavalry off of them.
Halberdiers being better against shock and "Stuck in" Melee cavalry and shilded spearmen doing better against shooty skirmish cavalry. (Keep some Handgunners or Crossbowmen around your artillery too to make sure you don't have to chase down the missile cavalry with said spearmen.
Otherwise keep ranged up front but switch the lines so melee is up front when the enemy gets too close.
>>47578312
Are there daemon prince rules in Fantasy? I don't really focus on Chaos too much.
>>47578410
Obviously. The original Daemon Prince model was a fantasy one.
>>47578312
She's technically not a Daemon.
Khorne screamed her back to life and mutated her head, legs, and back.
Can anyone with a Gnoblar and a goblin model in a similar posture post them next to each other for scale?
>>47578395
What game is she from?
>>47578539
>Khorne screamed her back to life and mutated her head, legs, and back.
Pregnant Khorne?
>>47579948
Fate/Extra
>>47580070
Thanks senpai
>>47581037
No problem, I have to get around to playing it myself.
>>47578010
New rumors?
Right now I'm trying to decide on some Orcs.
The guy is offering 81 of the cool hand weapon and shield boys and 59 of the crappy old monopose arrer boys for $180.
Thoughts?
I get that that's really cheap compared to buying new, but these are mostly older models.
I could likely get them cheaper individually but I'm not likely to find them for the price I want in as large of a lot as he's got.
And I love green tides.
>>47586264
Hard to say. I'd say you should only buy them if you think it's likely you'll paint them.
>>47577076
Pretty good.
Trying to decide on an army to start for 9th Age. Either O&G, Beastmen or Vampire Covens. Anyone got a good breakdown of the factions? I'm totally new to WHFB.
>>47586433
Know any of the lore?
OnG are basically Orks from 40k but easier to deal with in that they regularly make deals and fight as mercenaries and most of them are afraid to die.
They're like an entire faction of roid raging dick as thieves.
There's enough in the early fluff to suggest females/mating and enough in the later fluff to suggest spores.
So you can have Orc cities with little orc babies in your own personal head canon if you'd like.
Beastmen are gross humans mutated by chaos powers into goat people that smear shit on everything, hate normies (REEEEEEEEEE), and will kill/rape anyone stepping 10 feet into the woods.
Vampire Counts are essentially what you play if you like your heroes being self inserts.
The majority of your soldiers are mindless skeletons and zombies that are controlled by your little vampire lord or necromancer alone.
You can be anything from an old world aristocrat that wants to live in relative peace with humans to a life-hating bat-monster.
>>47586264
I wouldn't buy the monopose guys. But that's just me.
>>47586433
Of the 3, greenskins are the more varied and with more shooting and artillery, still rely on numbers despite their strength and toughness due to leadership and generally low armour saves.
Beastmen are primitive, relatively poorly armored, like orcs, but more than sheer numbers they can make use of monsters, minotaurs and ambushing tactics to hammer the enemy. Little shooting.
Vampires rely more than anyone else on their heroes, undead troops in general, even the elites, can prove incapable of dealing the needed amount of damage to come out of combat not simply victorious, but in combat shape for more, monsters, ethereal and flying units on top of strong magic provide additional threats and tactical flexibility. Practically no shooting.
>>47586103
We're not going to get warhammer fantasy rumors for a very long time, if not forever; if you want generally fantasy rumors, GW will soon release elves-dryads hybrid models and a goddess of life riding a giant beetle.
>>47586103
Old World is going to be brought back as a setting within one of the realms.
>>47586503
Just the basics, but since I'm getting into 9th Age and not WHFB specifically, I don't really care about the lore just yet. I'm more about how the models look and how fun they are to play on the table.
>>47586581
Cool thanks, O&G sound pretty fun. Plus I hate painting normal flesh, so that helps.
>>47586637
Fake and gay
What was the slann great plan?
>>47589484
The Old Ones plan. Which was their To Do list and notes on the recipes that made the various races.
>>47590014
I thought they were trying to close polar gates or something.
Need the last Army Book FAQs/Erratas, no luck searching the links in op
>>47589484
Where can I get high quality Araby and Cathay style miniatures?
>>47589484
Personally I think the plan was to buy the Old Ones time while they fled to a dimension far from Chaos. That's why the had to create various races of varying abilities in an attempt to find one that could hold back the tide.
>>47575346
>>47576093
>it just seemed like it missed the mark.
Actually, they hit the mark for bloodless corpse-flesh quite well.
Vampires are corpses after all.
>>47574843
>you will never suckle on her ice cold titties
>>47590389
Nope.
Their plan regarding that was helping the Elves make the Vortex. Lileath's full-retard plan to destroy it made them realize that the Old Ones plan was unachievable.
https://youtu.be/SaW-chEUoLs
Yatzee jokes about Warhammer.
>>47590987
Vampires have blood, and don't count as corpses. Just undead.
They even have heartbeats.
>>47591100
Liber Necris and several army books says they can create the illusion of life, but that it takes concentration.
I assume that the blood she's using is better spent to power herself for combat over looking pretty.
Quick question from a WHFB newb:
In WHFB 8e (and also 9e, if it uses the same movement setup), how much would break if wheeling were removed and you just said "you can pivot around the center once during your movement" - fast cav and skirmishers and whatnot would be able to pivot as much as they want, more or less?
I ask because I play on Roll20 and wheeling is way slower and more obnoxious than simply pivoting, but I don't want to make such a change without asking people who actually know shit about the game.
>>47591384
The purpose of wheeling is to give a more realistic version of movement, and to punish large units (in theory) by making them REALLY have to pay attention to where the terrain is and what going near it will do to limit their actions (you don't march 10,000 men into town, you fight mostly in the field nearby).
But its not game breaking to change it. In 9th even less so because there is a max unit size, unlike 8e where you can have two small units and a single fuckmassive horde.
>>47591100
>you can't spend 100% of your time having fantasy battles
lies
>>47591133
hello new wallpaper
>>47591540
I have tons more
>>47592313
I have this startter set unassembled, I'm always tempted to clip and paint that general.
>>47592431
Make a cast of the sprues, and save the originals.
>>47592448
>moon man strikes again
>>47592448
How?
What's your favorite Warhammer trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFGJQIW5ZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68bXPgH9Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI
>>47592431
isn't the general just a standard reiksguard knight
the arrer boyz never got a boxed release though, if I remember right. Was always a bit disappointed by that.
>>47592484
The bad moon and evil sun are classics.
>>47592515
Two part silicone for the mold, and a press-box with either greenstuff or resin.
Tons of how-tos online.
>>47592525
>What's your favorite Warhammer trailer?
From memory, easily Mark of Chaos. Largely because of the (i) focus and (ii) lack of magic in general.
What's yours?
>>47592602
>You will never explore mistery of Drachenfells with your wood elf waifu.
>>47592619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AQseMwiSYY
>>47592525
>What's your favorite Warhammer trailer?
Overall I'll have to go with Mark of Chaos (and the expansion's trailer), but any parts of WAR featuring orcs is a strong contender.
An orc just smashing into the rooftops in the background, the one repeatedly bashing the humie's head into the steps, the one hyping himself up for the catapult launch... it's pure love.
And that marauder made me roll one at launch.
>>47592525
Mark
Not too much dialogue. One battle. Gets the point across. It's a scene, rather than just a trailer.
>>47592687
Please, God, noooooooooo-
>>47592687
>Comments are disabled for this video.
>>47592639
Feels bad, man.
>>47592313
>>47592448
Basically this. THe 6th ed. starter set was a blessing of Sigmar. Also, I did my best to convert the 7ed empire general to resemble the one on the box art.
>>47592588
No. It had it's own sprue. All command for empire had a mounted version.
>there will never be a video game adaptation of WFRP quest modules
>>47592639
You can now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33VfPvCka0
>>47592313
>>47593212
With your wood elf waifu of course.
>>47593212
> No new Vampire character
disappointing T B H
>>47593265
If we get new characters it'll be a Warrior Priest and a Slayer because they're iconic. Then we may get something more exotic like a Vampire or High/Dark Elf.
>>47593265
Vamps are just too fucking strong, even lesser ones like Genevieve can crush granite bare fisted.
>>47593245
Whoever gave her a fur cloak should be shot, it makes always-on-auras fucking mandatory.
>>47592602
Sweet, thanks!
>>47592313
>I have tons more
Post them.
>>47593305skinkwhen
>>47589484
The crash the plane of existence.
With no survivors
>>47593212
>>47593245
>LUMBAH FUTS
>>47593228
>>47593346
Not even a please?
>>47593498
>>47593498
>Not even a please?
Please post them my glorious Overlord. Post them all (Chainmail-bikinis first)!
>>47593516
>>47593498
Old Warhammer fantasy art is so retardiddly awesome.
>>47593516
"We are LEGION", indeed.
>>47593533
>>47593533
>glorious Overlord
d'aww, shucks...
>>47593547
Its the shit you'd see on the cover of a 80's metal album, as Slaanesh intended!
>>47593592
>>47593615
Do we have a list of models for the Vermintide characters yet?
>>47593646
I would really like MP3s of all the dialog soundbites.
>>47593592
>d'aww, shucks...
MOOOOOOOOOAR, my glorious Overlord.
>>47593694
Fucking awesome. GW, I miss you.
>>47593720
The heart weeps for what is gone.
>>47593777
>>47593777
>>47593795
>>47593853
>>47593874
It is so awesome. What was GW thinking? Keep posting.
>>47593874
>guy just flexing with a demon skeleton cunt about to stab him
Badass as fuck.
>>47593694
I meant for the tabletop, but I'd love the sound too.
I tried to find the Skaven speech to play for a friend and was shocked nobody ripoed it and put it on youtube.
>>47593874
Wait.
Is that Nagash fighting Luthor Huss?
Holy shit!
>>47594029
I'm not sure if that's nagash or a "regular" wight king. He's certainly got a lot in common with old bones, but the lack of staff and tomes makes me think otherwise.
>>47594008
Its like, the day after DoW came out, we had "Metal boxes!" ripped.
Still none of the excellent voice acting from Vermintide
Anyone have a good resolution of this?
>>47594175
>>47594175
>>47594194
>>47594212
Ok, Im off to dinner. I'll dump more later. maybe even some comics.
>>47594223
>warhammer fantasy comics
Good lord, these were a thing?
>>47594223
>Ok, Im off to dinner. I'll dump more later. maybe even some comics.
Dump everything.
>>47594296
Three ongoing using the same characters that had decent to completely shit art, Blood Bowl comics, and the best of the best which were published in White Dwarf as the "Tales Of The Ten Tailed Cat" series of various patrons of a bar in the Empire, pic related.
>>47594175
The fantasy equivalent of Silver Tower, Mansion of the Plague Lord.
>>47594296
Malus Darkblade used to be a comic character.
>>47592525
>Mark of Chaos
>Ends with a Bloodthirster
>Age of Reckoning
>Ends with a Lord of Change
>Total War: Warhammer
>Ends with a Lord of Change
Huh.
i don't even remember there being any Bloodthirsters in mark of chaos
>>47594296
Tons of comics. The short stories, comics and WHFRPG/fluff books are were the real meat of a great setting. Clownbro has most of the comics.
>>47594982
There was one without any daemon at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JglnSrfJtyQ
And this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVl9-ZWfIMM
And also this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTaQmhztVQ
And have one with a Gread Unclean One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQvPQJ1_Dk
All we need is a Keeper of Secrets.
>>47595412
Kerillian & Saltzpyre OTP
>>47594982
Tzeentch is the best Chaos God, so I am okay with this.
1. Tzeentch
2. Slaanesh
3. Nurgle
4.Malal
>>47578010
>tfw you ll never go questing with your chivalrous bard gf.
ITT try and say something nice about AoS.
I don't mind Lizardmen being called "Seraphon".
I'm glad Skaven aren't just called "Ratmen", and I kind of like that Lizardmen get an original name.
>>47595610
Ah, a man of taste!
>>47596361
Gotta get dem copyrights sonny.
>>47596190
>luting with gauntlets
>>47596414
>>47596414
Dumb that they didn't at least go with Dawi/Urki/Grobi for the Dwarfs, Orcs, and Goblins.
>>47596685
That was my first thought when they changed the names too.
>>47594296
Uhhh, yeah?
>>47594316
Well, I shall be dumping something while on the porcelain throne, and it wont just be comics.
>>47594365
>>47594365
It would have been nice if you didnt post the page spoiling the twist of one of my favorite comics.
>>47595347
>The short stories, comics and WHFRPG/fluff books are were the real meat of a great setting
THIS
So.... Comic time?
>>47594241
>>47597032
>>47596979
Starting with a classic
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 01/08
>>47597181
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 02/08
>>47574843
>not big fat bat tats
one job
>>47597202
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 03/08
>>47597216
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 04/08
>>47597232
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 05/08
>>47597245
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 06/08
>>47597257
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- 07/08
>>47597277
>>47597277
"Grundhelm's Grudge"- END
How would you go about creating an Arabyan Mystic class for WFRP 2e?
I'm thinking a 3-tier career based somewhat on the Kislevite hag, at least as far as sharing its casting methods goes.
What about spells? Obviously you have flying carpets, summoning djinni to do combat, something sun-related to blind or burn a foe, maybe a mirage spell? Should there be a high level spell where you summon a dijinni to grant a wish (to the best of its abilities and benevolence - let's say it rolls on a chart as to how much of a dick it is)?
What about letting it be an alternate way to access the Dark Lore (Necromancy) path instead of Spirit Lore (Araby)?
>>47597355
>Arabyan Mystic
By using the Arabyian human stats and the Mystic, Occultist or Cultist career.
WHFRP is awesome like that.
>>47597289
short, Sweet, to the point. I like these kinds of comics, THanks for sharing Grope.
>>47597355
Howzabout this(disclaimer, know very little about araby)
Arabyan mystics aren't like normal magic users, in that they don't use traditional spells. Instead, they bind magic to objects. For example, they can infuse a magic carpet to allow it to fly, enchant a ring to give it's wearer herculean strength, ect.
On the flip side, modifying objects like this? Isn't permanent. A lamp with a genie in it can only be used once. A flying carpet might get three or four go's before it runs out of power. Rings might only work for a certain time span, ect.
This'd fit with actual arabic legend where, for the most part, it was the items that were magic, not the people.
>>47597404
Those are way too Chaos-focused to be useful for that, I feel.
>>47593245
>yfw they got rid of elven absolute territory
fatshark pls
>>47596685
Also Asur, Druchii and Asrai for High, Dark and Wood Elves.
>>47597404
what's even the point of fielding a rope to the sky on the battlefield?
>>47597509
What?
>>47597609
Could be used like Skitterleap. Or if the mage is stuck in combat, they can use it to essentially teleport themselves out within say 24"
Make it once per game maybe.
>>47596361
Seraphon is malekith's dragoness name though, but I guess it's nice they at least tried to find a serpentine name that conveys an angelic theme.
I don't mind as long as that is one of the names the other races call them, rather than the one they use themselves.
I still prefer the fancreated name of itzatecah.
>tried Vermintide for the free weekend
>kind of miss the characters
>>47597355
You can also look into converting rules from the Araby Warmaster and Mordheim rules for WHFRP. Its not too difficult.
>>47597430
Another?
>>47597434
Everything you said is 100% accurate. Warhammer rocks because they take NOT!Arabia and NOT!Italy, etc, and build on it.
>>47597440
....But thats exactly Araby's schtick. Toeing the line and making deals.
There is tons of scattered fluff and rules throughout WHFRP, if you're willing to dig. Scimitar rules in the Armoury, A scattering of magic in the Realsm of sorcery, etc etc. You sadly just gotta dig. I once heard Araby and the southlands were the next book before 2nd got canned.
>>47597770
>embedding a mace in your flesh
>>47597678
>itzatecah
Hadn't heard that before. I like that better too. Sounds appropriately Aztec.
>>47597799
To save belt space and show how tough he is.
Its also probably based on how Arabic Dervish and Fakir perform the ritual piercings and acts of extreme body modification and control to show their devotion and holiness. Fun fact: These religious devotions is where most traditional sideshow stunts originate from!
>>47597907
wat
>>47597897
>>47597355
As an aside, I always thought it interesting that the college of Light uses a lot of 'Nehekharan' imagery. It might be fun to try to justify that within the background.
And given Hysh's ability to banish/bind daemons, perhaps an altered Light lore would be appropriate for some Arabyan mages.
>>47597355
I have a few bits of information on Araby collated, most of it fan material.
Here's some stuff by Marijan von Staufer (He wrote part of Liber Chaotica, Liber Necris and Realms of Sorcery): http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?24748-Religion-in-the-Mid-East-of-Warhammer-world&p=475151&viewfull=1#post475151
Some stuff for Araby in wfrp 1e: http://www.snotling.org/whfrp/Campaign/araby.txt
Ditto: http://www.snotling.org/whfrp/Magick/Djinni.txt
>>47598100
Wow, I didn't think to expect this, thanks!
>>47597770
>....But thats exactly Araby's schtick. Toeing the line and making deals.
Clearly not so dangerously as your average Chaos shitter, though.
>>47597973
>I always thought it interesting that the college of Light uses a lot of 'Nehekharan' imagery. It might be fun to try to justify that within the background.
Storm of magic suggests that a great deal of spells, rituals, titles and symbols come from the "great south" rather than ulthuan.
It may have to do with the nature of the wind: comparatively to the others it is very difficult to harness as it is more fleeting, it is for that reason that some spells of the lore of light require numerous mages or strenghten with the presence of other mages, you will also see, in fact, that in many concept arts light mages are shown with a retinue that could help prepare the ritual on top of the proper mage; this is one of the possible meanings of the light college rune meaning light is a resultant of cohoperation and a higher, more refined form of magic, but it could be just arrogance on the college's part.
returning on the subject anyway, since humans are differently capable at magic than the elvesm perhaps the last ones didn't have enough practice and experience to teach humans how to compensate with teamwork what the elves could do naturally so the order was left half-finished and left on its own to research and grow its field of magic; the southlands are closer to the equator, light is stronger and the order will have had interest in the sun-god of the lost civilization between the sand and went there to reverse engineer what they could, plainly copying manuscripts and inscriptions before getting off the skeletons' desertic lawn.I find it unlikely that the nehekarian would have shared their knowledge willingly
>>47596361
Calling undead 'Deathrattles" was a good idea.
>>47598100
Fucking ay, bro! You get a cookie.
>>47598198
Because they do so behind multiple layers of rituals, bindings, wards, and more rituals. IIRC, their magic requires more time and planning, but is over all safer and more consistent.
>>47598483
>Because they do so behind multiple layers of rituals, bindings, wards, and more rituals. IIRC, their magic requires more time and planning, but is over all safer and more consistent.
So agai, a bit like hags or hedgewise?
>>47594029
That's Volkmar fighting a generic Liche. At the time of the artwork I don't think Luthor Huss was even invented.
>>47598658
6th edition ABs were the best when it comes to art and fluff.
>>47598743
Yeah, they had an amazing blend between gothic dark fantasy and high fantasy. With 7'th edition they ramped up the morbid gothic dark fantasy too much and with 8'th they ramped up the high fantasy too much. Although, Black Library really took the cake when it came to terrible and inconsistent quality of cover art.
Where can I find the most recent FAQ/Erratas? Couldn't find them in any of the OP links
>>47574980
>muh stock market
Games Workshop is one of the only publicly traded companies involved in wargaming.
The share market isn't some magic looking glass into the inner workings of a company. It's based entirely off publicly available knowledge and consumer volatility. A company's share price could be in freefall, only for them to post their best year in decades. Similarly a company with ridiculous stock growth isn't necessarily successful. Just look at the dot com bubble, theGlobe.com in particular.
>>47601142
However, it must be said that generally speaking a company's stock is a measure of how confident people are in its success. That generally goes along with its actual success.
>>47601239
Yes, but that's always based on information anyone can find out themselves. The stock market is not indicative of anything in its own right
>>47601267
Not necessarily, no, but, as I said earlier, it is generally a good indicator.
>>47596414
I really wish the copyright meme would die, but the GW fanbase is both ignorant and arrogant of its supposed intelligence, so I guess it's hopeless.
It's kind of like how for years it was spouted that specialist games did wonderful and how despite that GW killed them because they were taking sales away from 40k or Fantasy. Don't try and question the logic of that assertion, GW is just dumb. Lo and behold Priestly reveals that it's because there was an overprinting of foreign copies that nearly bankrupted the company and caused the sales division to shit itself in fear and any desire for specialist games on their part to dry up.
More and more it's seeming like it's GW attempt to put their own spin on things just as others such as Privateer Press and various gaming companies have done. Bloodbowl has shown they have no problem using Dwarf, Elf, or Orc.
>>47596685
>>47597545
Because those names by themselves either mean nothing or in the case of Urki and Grobi, no one really knows or gives a shit, especially if you compare Grobi to Grot.
Dawi, Asur, Druchii, and Asrai are what four relatively monolithic factions in Fantasy called themselves. GW has shown that AoS is composed of many smaller factions.
>>47591133
That's how I always liked to think of it. That vampires can look like humans outside of combat, but when the time to fight comes they just drop the facade for practical reasons and the advantage their visage will give them.
>>47591088
Actually they seemed to realize that the Old Ones' plan was a failure regardless of Lileath's plan. Pretty sure that even before anything happened they were getting ready to leave.
>>47595610
>no Khorne
I wish there were more people like you.
>>47602626
Overprinting is dumb.
Wizards of the Coast nearly killed Magic the Gathering by overprinting Fallen Empires and Homelands. They didn't fucking cancel Magic over it. They fixed the problem.
>>47602896
I don't recall anything about the overprinting of Fallen Empires or Homelands proving a credible risk to WotC. Plus Magic was their biggest brand at the time, meaning that cancelling it just wouldn't be feasible.
In contrast GW already had two profitable lines in 40k and Fantasy. As far as the sales division was probably concerned, they didn't really need to bother with specialist games.
At any rate that is seemingly the true reason why for a period of time GW was scared to touch specialist games. Not the asinine excuse that they were still making money, just not from what they wanted to make money from. How the fuck anyone ever bought that line of horseshit in the first place is beyond me. A company would not give a shit were it was making money from as long as it was making money.
>>47603302
It was still a new game at the time and they flooded the market with it. When I got into Magic, which was in the late 90s (FE was released in 94), stores still had loads of it and were selling it for dirt cheap. This is in addition to the fact that every good card in the set is at common, which is great for players, but terrible for people trying to actually sell it. It was a financial disaster, which they quickly worked to fix in the next release.
>>47603680
I was aware that Homelands was poorly received.
At any rate, WotC probably didn't have much choice but to try and fix it. However some people at GW probably thought that the company could get by fine without specialist games and they were right to an extent. Not trying to say that what they did was the right decision, but I can kind of understand why they just doubled down on the safe options of 40k and Fantasy.
>>47603680
I worded it kind of vaguely, but what I was getting at was I got into Magic just under half a decade after Fallen Empires was released. Stores were nearly giving it away. To this day it isn't relatively expensive to buy sealed Fallen Empires. More disasters like that would absolutely have sunk the game.
Incidentally, the set was a success as far as lore and even card design goes. But it sure wasn't "collectible".
If anyone wants some awesome, lore friendly units for Total War: Warhammer, grab this. It's amazing. Makes the Empire alot better too (And gives Tilea a unique roster.) Dont subscribe to Radious's shitty ninja musket mod.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691664240
>>47604871
>insert Radious pasta here
Who wouldn't love Dismounted Black Orc Boar Boy Musketeer (Very Heavy Infantry)?
>chinamen are stocking brets again
Looks like them getting squatted drove up demand. At least I'll be able to start an army cheaply without giving a cent to GW now.
>>47598743
Yeah, even the way the books were laid out were superior with cool details around the edge of the pages
>>47597404
Any links to Arbayian human stats? Or Cultist? Can't find it in my own pdfs
Newfag to Warhammer hopping on the Total War train here.
What's a good first novel to read that preferably has a gryphon or demigryphs in it?
>>47592981
That's par for the course with companies.
>>47605163
My fav were DE and HE books with fluff from their own propagandish perspective.
>>47605405
Gryphons were pretty much always in the Empire but demigryphs were much more recent addition, so I'm not sure whether they appear in any novel.
For a pretty good Empire reading I'd suggest The Emperor's Armies, it contains two novels and some short stories from one of the best Black Library author.
Still, if you want to be introduced to the Old World I'd recommend Trollslayer.
>>47592525
>that dark elf in the reckoning trailer
also love how warhammer games almost always have a great trailer/intro
MOAR COMICS
Where do i find this shit, google is a shit for this kind of things
>>47596190
>>47596449
>STOP FUCKING REARING UP! IT'S FUCKING HARD ENOUGH PLAYING THIS LUTE AS IT IS YOU SHITTING HORSE!
>>47606029
Warhammer Monthly was what the monthly comic book that ran for a while was called.
Look that up and see if anything said about fantasy or mordheim stories interest you.
I remember there being some fairly good series and also some really good short (7-8page) stories dotted around the issues.
>>47605396
Cultist is tome of corruption. Araby Human was either compendium or a white dwarf article.
>Hey TW Warhammer looks great, maybe I should start playing the tabletop game.
>It's gone, there is only AOS
Wat?
How fucking stupid are people at GW?
>>47595314
last siege battle as empire/he there was at least one, and I think during chaos campaign kul had to defeat one
>>47609131
this general has existed for the last year purely to determine the answer to that question
you can still buy the models off ebay or from a chinese recaster and use the 9th Age or Kings of War rules with them
>>47609199
Me and a buddy have just reverted back to 6th ed
>>47594187
Man, you know AoS has shitty background material when it makes red-period art seem awesome in comparison
>>47578395
>>47581287
Okay, that really looks like saber but she has big boobs. Can someone who understands this explain?
>>47592639
>>47593009
Good. That elf is a condescending bitch.
So as the first of the character specific trailers that was produced by the TW team, what does everyone collectively think of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyU_1-Py0dA
Did it capture Karl Franz, the setting of the Empire?
>>47609482
It's Warhammer, every elf is a bitch.
>>47609688
pretty gud
tipped my opinion on the demigryphs
>>47578312
It's not entirely sure what she is.
She wasn't elevated, she was resurrected by khorne because he has a waifu fetish.
Maybe her wings and hooves are gifts from khorne or maybe she became a demon princess.
>>47586433
One answer: DOOMBULL.
You know who can field a DOOMBULL? Beastmen, that's who. Do you want to tear down the works of humanity? Do you despise civilization? Do you want to watch the world burn?
DOOMBULL will be there to help you do it. Watch as he gets on the mino-bus and rolls over infantry and cavalry alike. See him route pointy-earred pretty boys with ease. Behold as he drinks the blood of his enemies and feasts on the flesh of those fallen before him.
Sounds too good to be true? Lies! DOOMBULL can also wear a wizard hat and ride a magic carpet allowing him to do what no one believed could be done.
Help make the old world great again. Vote for DOOMBULL! DOOMBULL! DOOMBULL!
>>47586433
I take it you only care about gameplay.
O&G are also really varied - with the different greenskin races you pretty much get multiple factions in one and you can play themed armies if you want. You get more selection than with any other army except maybe Empire -you get infantry, some elite infantry, different sorts of cavalry, monsters and monstrous infantry, ok to good artillery and magic.
O&G horde up really well. You can field really some of the cheapest units in the game but also have access to some more hard-hitting ones.
Downsides are that even the more elite units and character models never get as killy as in true elite armies as chaos. You also have poor to average leadership, meaning parts of your army might flee easily.
Beastmen have different playstyles but the main one seems to be around a highlty mobile melee guerrilla force.
You can put pretty much every unit in ambush and get an improved ambush on all units if you take a beast lord as general. Most of your army is relatively slow to start with as most will consist of infantry and chariot support but you can get lot's of speed buffs. You can travers all forests without penalty, most units get boni on their charge moves if they attack enemies in the flank/rear. You get a buff wagon and a totem that ups charge speed. Combined with their good and cheap chaff/sacrifical units you should be able to dictate the course of the battle if done right.
Beastmen are relatively cheap point-wise but punch above their point cost due to a global rule allowing them rerolls on to hit rolls. They have next to now armour and only their toughness as protection so many units will go down quickly glass-cannon style (esp minotaurs).
You also get lot's of big nasties and chariots.
Someone made fun of my all skeleton army because I have no zombies and because I have my general on a zombie dragon.
>Fluff Army Feels
>>47611281
Beastmen have leadership issues as well, which is a larger problem for them as for some other low leadership armies as they will want to split their army up to ambush and surround the enemy meaning lot's of models will not profit from the generals leadership bubble.
Beasts have next to no shooting. You get short ranged bows and throwing weapons, a monster with a short ranged breath weapon and a monster that functions a stone thrower (literally).
Guys, is the Silver Tower box good?
Me and my friends are thinking about buying it, but we are not sure
>>47605026
Sauce on Chinaman?
Does he have TK?
>>47606019
>>47609312
Thanks!
I love this picture.
>>47611393
What about 9th Age? So far it seems that the game has been an improvement, but I haven't seen them yet.
>>47611367
Zombies are for plebs and von Carsteins. Yes I know that's a double negative.
>>47611525
>Good models for Fantasy
All the Daemons
Spider Goblins
Tzaangors
The Warpriest and his baby Gryphon
The Warrior of Chaos
The rest of it is all AoS garbage. Arguably you can use the Dark Aelf, but he's a little too Dark Eldar or like a lore-breaking male Witch Elf so he'd stand out badly.
>>47611568
>Zombies are for plebs and von Carsteins
>MUH TAR PITS
Anyone who plays that way, with zero fluff intended, needs to be culled
>>47611632
Yeah about the miniatures we all love them, they're awesome
Is the playability what concerns us a bit
>>47611281
Vampires are solid. That is pretty mch their gameplay. You are pretty much immun to all leadership based rules, you will never flee from anything but might loose additional models after loosing a fight.
You get lot's of really cheap really bad units next to lot's of mediocre to good units and some of the most powerfull character models in the game (vampires). What those vampires do exactly depends on if and what bloodline you choose. You get fighty, MAGIC!! and different flavour of support vampires. You also get plenty of monsters, (pretty much) no shooting.
You get fucking powerfull support magic. You can revive everything in the army and get lot's of magic to improve your not-so-good troops. The army has lot's of support pieces and powers/items to further improve your troops. You are also the only faction being able to raise new units into battle.
Vamps are also pretty much the only army to get etherial units (KoE got one unit as well) that are really hard to harm except with magic.
Downside..you really aren't all that fast and usually can only march close to your general making flanking/surrounding your enemy harder to pull off. Many of your units aren't all that tough if not boosted by support powers/items/pieces.
You get good chaff but nothing in your army can flee as a charge reaction so redirecting an enemy means loosing that chaff unit. Then again you can always raise new chaff units.
>>47611568
>>>47611393 (You)
>What about 9th Age? So far it seems that the game has been an improvement, but I haven't seen them yet.
I've been describing 9th age rules. I think it's a great improvement on everything 8th.
>>47611646
Zombies are the most fluffy for the von Carsteins, the lore specifically points out that Vlad and Mannfred relied heavily on them and that the Corpse Cart is a von Carstein invention.
Necrarchs can get away with it, its not very fluffy for Blood Dragons, Lahmians specifically should almost never use them unless a product of the Raise Dead spell, and the Strigoi should only really be using Ghouls and Dire Wolves because Zombies are a source of food rather than a soldier.
>>47611655
Sorry, I didn't get what you were asking.
As a game? No idea, I assume its the same as the other Warhammer Quest games.
Might want to ask in AoS general. I don't think anyone here would have bought a game set in Age of Sigmar.
>>47611692
>I've been describing 9th age rules. I think it's a great improvement on everything 8th.
I meant about Beastmen specifically, I haven't glanced at their 9th yet.
>>47611736
Well I decribed them here
>>47611281
One of the best books in 9th I think. I fucking love their gameplay and it's fluffy as fuck if you care about such things. Also fun.
>>47611718
Oh, yeah sorry
Anyways thanks
>>47611766
Sorry, thought that was about their 8th rules.
Yeah, 9th seems to be everything Warhammer should have always been.
>>47611568
One thing I noticed about 9th age is that beastmen can ambush with some of their elite units (Centaurs,Longhorns and giants) so they can use their superior leadership and damage output to independently wreck havoc.
>>47605163
My favourite one is the VC book.
Anyone familiar with Zhanchui's ordering process on? Getting very frustraited with battling through all the chinese. Found the catalogue, but this one is lacking the txt file with his email
>>47611692
That's not how you spell lose.
That dwarf comic was amazing anon thanks for posting please post more, i like this guys art too. Very good quality stuff
>>47613470
So is it just me, or was Nagash consistently a good boss for consistently loyal Arkhan?
>>47611534
Z does from memory
it's all a super secret club to avoid legal issues, but if you search around on /r/yoyhammer you can find out how to contact him
>>47613756
Depends on your source.
Black Library disagrees with army books, and old canon disagrees with new.
Overall if you take all sources as canon and try to resolve the differences in the way of least resistance...
Arkhan chafes under a dead-end job (no pun intended) with no upwards mobility or options, but has always realized he's in a very good place so he's more like a guy working in a good office job looking out the window and wishing he could just take a flight to Hawaii and never come back. But he's always been 10/10 for Nagash.
Nagash has been a good leader, but one very prone to throwing a complete hissy fit when he doesn't get his way in a manner that's kind of embarrassing for everyone around him. His position is one of self-entitlement, which kind of grates on his Nehekharan subordinates because their entire culture is based on one where he ISN'T entitled to those things and is kind of an illegitimate usurper. But all being said and done he's been good to those on his side, and has been generally forgiving of failure. It helps a great deal that he gives a lot more freedom and respect than his alternative, Settra, gives. Once Nagash ascends to godhood and takes control of the wind of death he's even more of the side to be on because he can literally shoot you full of the magic that keeps you alive and makes you feel good anytime he wants, like Slaanesh+Nurgle with no downsides of becoming numb or gross. Nagash's only actual failures aren't really his own fault, he always has EVERYONE stacked against him and each time he failed was because of an unforseen consequence. Plus one stupid asshole nobody liked anyway going Fishmalk Chaotic Neutral.
>>47613940
What's /r/oyhammer?
Forgive my ignorance, I had a Chinaman link years ago but never bought anything from it because it was new then and there wasn't any anons who had gotten stuff and taken pictures to compare quality yet.
I just want a Settra that isn't $80, or an Apophas that isn't $50. Or Ushabti cheaper than GW ones were. Or Elspeth cheaper than $70.
>>47614037
it's asubreddit
you won't find the full email, but people tend to post bits and pieces when asking questions, which lets you stitch it all together
>>47614073
Cool, thanks!
Total Warhammer is making me want to work on models again.
My project for getting Neferata and Arkhan riding the same mount here. Turns out you can glue Nef's legs in such a way that you have two pieces so you can paint the inside of the dress that you can just slip back together, I didn't show it here though.
Sawed Arkhan's cape off, but kept his sword on his back through careful angling as you can kind of see. They fit together, his sword is kind of across her lap but I think it looks kind of cute that way. Still not sure who's Abyssal they should be riding, I like Neferata's since the hood looks like a romantic Victorian Christmas sleigh painting, but Arkhan's fits the reins better.
>>47614171
Here's kind of what I mean. Neferata's Abyssal head reminds me of this.
Is there anywhere I can download the Warhammer comics?
