Elder Scrolls Lore and Tabletop Game General:
Talking Mudcrab Merchant Edition.
>Tabletop/P&P RPGs
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Discussion in #UESRPG (irc.thisisnotatrueending.com [port 6667])
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>Lore Resources
[The Imperial Library] www.imperial-library.info/
[/r/teslore] www.reddit.com/r/teslore/
[UESP/Lore] www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Main_Page
[Pocket Guide to the Lore] goo gl / 8b78MW
[Elder Lore Podcast] www.elderlore.wordpress.com/
[How to Become a Lore Buff] goo gl / 7f43lQ
>General Rules
No waifus please.
Keep the MK/Lady N related squabbling to a minimum.
Are the peoples of Akavir Ehlnofey descendants as well? And what the hell does it mean when the Kamal are called "demons"?
Please don't say "Akavir is a metaphor for the future", because that's just ridiculous, but "who the hell knows cause we've got fuckall concrete information?" is acceptable.
>>43625693
Probably not. Most of the inhabitants are "Beast folk" even though they aren't treated as such. In fact, they seem to be treated with respect.
Kamal are probably either naturally occurring "monsters" or or just really violent inhabitants, basically Yeti-Nords. Don't know much about them.
How exactly is a an Altmeri commoner? It's just really hard to imagine an Altmer farmer to me.
I get that magic is a big part of their society and everyone knows a few cantrips, but something about the idea of using magic for farming is slightly realistic, yet slightly ludicrous. When is there a line between "Farmer" and "wizard-who-specializes-in-agriculture".
Also, how do the Wizard lords work out with commoners. Is it House Telvanni: Crystal-Towers-instead-of-Mushrooms Edition? Are wizards nobles, or are nobles wizards? If knowledge is such a valuable commodity, capable of elevating status through the power it contains, how could they make The Mages Guild, much less a library, unless magic is just something nobles are schooled in.
>>43626170
If i remember correctly the altmer A): Keep lots of slaves, especially goblins, and B): Have a system of what is effectiveley serfdom.
Point A is from Tribunal i think, while B is referenced from the book that detailed the origins of the Mages guild.
>>43626496
Though thinking about it, I think both of these points only applies to Altmer society as it existed a couple of thousand years ago. So it's a bit like saying that the US depends on slaves for it's agriculture since it did back in 1836.
>>43624747
So. What do i just give you the coins for the bottles?
>>43626496
I thought slavery was outlawed everywhere in the empire except morrowind?
>>43624747
So what exactly happened to the moons during the void nights?
>>43626533
No, they still have Goblin slaves from what I remember. Just no slaves of sentient races.
>>43626496
Yeah, I know about that, but I'm wondering how a serf would work out. Would magic still be a thing? Could they elevate in status by becoming a wizard, or are they all wizards to some extent?
>>43626544
"'How dry I am... how dry I am... how dry I am... how dry I am....' SHAY! Hi. There. Lesh make a deal. I got... stuff. Lots. Here. See?"
>>43626580
Magic in the elder scrolls doesn't really translate well to a DnD style understanding. Literally everyone can decide to drop everything and practice magic and to some degree succeed, but few have the oppertunity or resources to do so.
At least, that is my understanding.
>>43626170
>>43626496
>With the insularity of the Summerset decisively broken, many Altmer, particularly the young (which among the High Elves is a fairly loose term), began to take a more critical view of the rigid heirarchy [sic] of Altmer society and its strict cultural xenophobia.
>At the time the Crystal Tower was built in the Merethic Era, the Elves of Summerset had a relatively egalitarian society, though social stratification slowly developed into a rigid hierarchy of classes over the millennia.[3] The Wise (teachers and priests) became the highest echelon, followed by Artists, Princes, Warriors, Landowners, Merchants, Workers, and enslaved beasts such as goblins.
>Gradually, as the society grew, social stratification increased. A hierarchy of classes began to form, which is still largely enforced in Summerset to this day. At the top are the Wise, teachers and priests, followed by Artists, Princes, Warriors, Landowners, Merchants, and Workers. Below Workers were the beasts, such as the enslaved goblins, who the Aldmer used to perform the jobs beneath the dignity of the very least of them.
Goblins do the farming.
Apparently art is really important, to where gangs of Artists are challenging the rules of society, which sound like the wet dream of any Liberal Arts student who read a book on socialism.
Why don't they like Dibella, then? Not good/ancestory enough, or the fact she may be Y'ffre?
>>43626823
Dibella might be YiffYiff?
>>43626823
If artists are over "princes" then I would wager that "princes" means more "magistrates, bureaucrats" rather than nobility and rulers. The ruler is the ruler, might be a warrior or an administrator or a priest or an artist and probably bits of all that if they're a well rounded ruler.
>>43626941
First off, Don't bring furfaggotry into this.
Second off, yeah. I remember some Bosmeri or Breton text that connected the two. I'll look for it, and see if it's canon or ESO.
>>43627039
I figured as much, that in a land where everyone knows their lineage, that most nobles are petty and impotent compared to The Wise, who would be more akin to Congress or Parliament. Obvious nepotism would happen for closer relatives, though.
>>43627157
>>43626941
Nah, can't find it.
>>43626170
From what I read on UESP while binge-lore-ing one night, the altmer are no more or less socially diverse than anywhere else. They have wealthy, poor, merchants, sailors, mages, Knights, fighters, wanderers, warlords/lords, morally ambiguous magic folk in spooky caves, etc.
The difference is they're almost all altmer, and by extension, magic is only a good bit more common than one might see in Morrowind. It's not a divine plane of existence, they aren't gods you know? Their greatest and most unique structure got 9/11'd in the oblivion crisis, so it's even more tame. Even thalmor don't think they're gods, just the best race in Tamriel. Granted that isn't all that far off.
Hell the Glass Tower was built as a symbol of racial solidarity, and because of class disparity, it was admired and beloved as an icon, like the Statue of Liberty plus the Lincoln memorial. Which is why it was all the more terrible for them when it fell. The altmer had a hard life.
>>43626554
no clue
>>43626548
The Altmeri dominion is not the Empire.
How many people here like the subreddit?
yah yah blah blah redditfag blah blah. go back to reddit blah blah
>>43629655
Redditfag, go back to reddit!
>>43629385
Is that what we were talking about? No one used the words Altmeri Dominion before you did. I guess when discussing this type of stuff you do need to specify time period.
>>43629655
I do.
If for nothing else but all the Khajiit and Argonian shit they come up with.
>>43629749
You dont even like this one?
new owner needs to fix this damn "detect spam" shit
>>43629655
I've got no problem with it. They tend to push out some pretty good stuff from time to time.
There's a reason it's linked in the OP after all.
>>43626554
Could it have something to do with Artaeum? It disappeared before the moons came back iirc
Is it just a slow start to the weekend, or did that Dragonbreak on Tuesday fuck everything up?
Has anybody actually played a "pacifist" (only kill when necessary) run of any of the games? I'm thinking of trying it.
Basically,
>Illusion (for Charm, Paralyze, Calm, and Demoralize)
>Mysticism (Absorb Fatigue, mark and recall, Interventions)
>Alchemy (Make potions for Speed, Health, Fatigue, Magicka, and profit.)
>Mercantile (Selling potions, buying low)
What else? Should I bother with unarmed or sneak? Speechcraft? Maybe Alteration for Levitation and Open?
>>43633406
Unarmed, in Morrowind at least, knocked enemies out rather than killing them so I'd say that's a good choice.Speech or Sneak to help avoid fights all together.
So, I'm planning on running a game of UESRPG with my group but I have a few questions.
1. Would the time setting have any real effect other than existence or not of the Dwemer?
2. Should I allow them to roam the continent or should I limit them to only one province?
3. One player thinks the elves, all of them, in Elder Scrolls are incredibly stupid and shouldn't be around, or something similar to that. He met the idea of most races being either Man or Elf, a simplification I was using very hostilely. Should I try and convince him to be less hostile or encourage him to mantle Pelinal?
>>43635166
>1
Probably not, unless you're doing something pre-Red Mountain
>2
That's a matter of how good you are at making things up on the fly and if your group can be trusted to keep things at a reasonable pace and not muck about walking in circles.
>3
Probably the former. Manteling is a pretty complicated process, and doing it "correctly" would require hijacking the player's character to a degree.
>>43635205
I was planning on pre-Red Mountain actually, what would the problem be with that? I just wanted to have the Tribunal be around as an option for worship.
And the mantling thing was a joke, I meant him the player not his character. I meant encouraging him to make a character that hated elves as much as he did.
>>43635247
Nothing really, but a lot of what the dwarves were "really" like comes from biased (Vivec, Calcelmo the Dwemerboo, Yagarn) or apocryphal (Tales of the Dwemer, The Temple, Vivec again) sources, so anything before the death of Nerevar and the binding of the Dwemer as the skin of Numidium is going to be a bit tricky, though the dragonbreak could help cover a few holes here and there if any pop up.
>>43635310
Shit, I meant pre-Red Year and I thought that's what you were talking about too. That era shouldn't cause problems then right?
>>43635330
Oh, no that's not a problem. I was thinking you meant around the time of the War of the First Council rather than just before Morrowind.
Did this guy survive the Thalmor Blade Hunt?
>>43635992
Doubtful
>>43632682What does the Idiot's lantern do?
>>43635992
>incredibly buff, balding and naked old man who smokes drugs all day.
Caius Cosades confirmed for badass. probably played by clint eastwood.
>>43629655
I know the Argonians kicked Daedra ass in the oblivion crisis, and i know what happened in Cryodil.
But are there any books about what happened in Skyrim, Elsweyr and the other Nations?
>>43637185
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/trial-vivec check this out.
Where do you guys go for elder scrolls art?
>>43635992
Dude was probably dead long before that even started.
I mean, he was heading back to the Imperial City before the Oblivion crisis started and was already an old man.
>>43635992
He made it to Uriel's tomb to say goodbye at least, so there's a chance.
>>43637713
/tgesg/
>>43637713
Lady N does a lot of good work.
Does Breton styled armor resemble English and French armor of the 15th century?
>>43638546
The guard armor from Daggerfall looked like a simple cuirass and bracers with a coif and greaves.The style is pretty indefinite, but it feels like a simple English design. In Online it looks like a stylized version of French plate-mail from around the 16th century.
>>43638597
Admittingly I like it, hopefully it looks the same on qt Breton girls
>>43638597
The scales on the sleeves seem pretty pointless and the hips are just painful looking but otherwise seems ok. Helmet I definitely recognise as a reinterpretation of something from Daggerfall.
I actually quite like the old quite plain designs (though not all in Daggerfall were really plain despite the graphical limitations), gives a nice contrast to the overload of detail and protrusions style that became commonplace.
>>43638597
>online
>>43638950
It's not as bad as it could have been.
>>43638597
>a stylized version of French plate-mail from around the 16th century
They're both plate, I'll give you that. Apart form that, no, fuck no, that's just another fantasy design. It isn't really based on any historical style. And it's not like there's really any specifically French style of plate armor in the 16th century to begin with.
>>43638676
>The scales on the sleeves seem pretty pointless
Someone had a vague memory of mail being used to fill the gaps, but forgot that scale won't bend like that.
>>43638597
Is that from DA: Inquisition?
>>43639116
So then is this style of armor just ceremonial or decorative?
>>43639198
Nope, ESO
>>43638950
ESO isnfucking annoying.
On one hand, the game is blergh as fuck and just doesn't into anything, but on the other hand it takes the lore, hugs it, and runs off with it to the sunset go enjoy sweetrolls
>>43639231
Yes. Like, that was absolutely not intended to be used in any battle or even practice and was probably made for a lazy rich-ass noble official.
Are there any mods in TES series that effectively make the game more role play oriented? Even if it's just a series of custom made quests with a shitton of 2nd person prompts that take your character attributes into consideration.
>>43640546
Well that explains the overly elaborate gilding and lack of wear. Thanks for correcting me.
>>43635992
>>43637713
deviantart. lots of shit stuff but some good shit too
>>43629655
Reddit hurts my ancient eyes to read.
Nested comments. Jesus Christ.
>>43641963
I know.
I still have trouble reading shit right there
What a thread.
>>43643252
Is that an Altmer that isn't piss-yellow?
>>43643286
LadyBBC is whitewashing now, what a sight.
Okay so lemme see if I've got this straight
You've got Anu and Padomay, Stasis and Change. Their interaction begets the various Anuic and Padomaic spirits, the Aedra and Daedra, though at this point they're all just et'Ada. One of these is Lorkhan. Lorkhan transfers a bit of his Padomaic essence into Aka-tusk, the most Anuic spirit, making a mess of him, and cons everyone into creating Nirn as a way to escape the endless cycle of interplay between Anu and Padomay and get to keep their forms, getting the help of Magnus to design it. The Aedra land on Nirn, the Daedra choose to stay in the void. They all land at the site of Ada-Mantia/Direnni Tower, but quickly realize that Nirn is draining them of their power. Some of them accept this and become the Earthbones in order to survive, giving up their power to establish the rules that Nirn operates under. Others, like Magnus, bail the fuck out and end up opening holes in the sky to Oblivion on their way out back towards Aetherius. The remaining Aedra get pissed off and lynch Lorkhan, tearing his heart out, but this was all part of his plan and they can't finish him off because he's linked with Mundus. Then at some point (possibly pre-Mundus?) the Marukhati Selective tries to take over Aka-Tusk's position as the all-maker, but they fuck it up and end up shattering him into a million little pieces, which are Akatosh and the Dragons.
How bad did I fuck this up?
>>43643286
Yeap. Supposed to be a Thalmor Ambassador. In my opinion, this design is better than Magic Nazi Hugo Boss Golden Black 4E200 Series Limited Edition Robe.
>>43643317
Read the OP, no squabbling.
>>43643336
It's "Keep the squabbling to a minimum", not "no squabbling".
>>43643317
To be fair, they are described as fair-skinned. I always interpreted that as pale-yellow (Think Asian model who uses whitening cream, but more yellow.)
The games, however, went from Yellow, with almond shaped, brown eyes, to Yellow Humans, and back to gaunt, yellow, Jay Leno-chined Asian with gem-colored eyes.
>>43643359
Fair enough.
>>43643332
I wouldn't say it's bad but there are some problems. Lorkhan and Aka-Tusk were never entirely separate entities. Think about it, AKA is Time, Lorkhan is the unstoppable flow of time and Akatosh is the absolute inevitability of time.
Lorkhans motivation for deceiving/inspiring/persuading et'Ada to create Nirn is not certain.
Marukhati Selective bit is completely off. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Alessian_Order
>>43643332
Pretty much correct, except Aka and Lorkhan are the two aspects of the same being (Aka is time and Lorkhan is space, togheter they're the representation of space-time), hence Lorkhan soultrapping Aka in his heart.
Also the Selectives wanted to remove the non-Akatosh aspects of Aka from existence (they had a raging hateboner for elves and couldn't stand the idea that Auri-el the elves worship is a different name/aspect of their beloved Akatosh). Their little ritual retroactively broke Aka into multiple separate gods, and also caused a Dragon Break that lasted over 1000 years.
>>43643317
Only because they're the "Bad-guys" who want racial purity.Except that the Altmer aren't the bad-guys. Humans are.
>>43626823
There's also an art club that became a Thalmor-fighting terrorist organization.
I really like the Beautiful, actually. Considering RPing as one on my next playthrough.
>>43643457
>spoiler
Couldn't agree more.
>>43643317
>>43643252
>>43643336
>Altmer
>Dark Brown Hair
>Blue Eyes, Human like
>White skin
So just a taller, pointy-eared Breton?This is actually how I make High-elves in all my settings.
>>43643479
>all they do is painting extremely good rebellious graffiti
>>43643545
If you UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF LOVE, is that CHIM?
>>43643583
Kinda.
https://youtu.be/Fm6CBqiY3rg
>>43643597
My favorite video on the internet.
>>43643597
I never really found videos like this that funny. Maybe I'm just bitter, or maybe it's because British humor is the only thing that does it for me.
>>43643632
I got ya back m80.
http://crossfade.io/#!/xg19ifkgu9
>>43643688
10/10.
>>43643688
>http://crossfade.io/#!/xg19ifkgu9
What?
>>43643688
What is this?
>>43643730
>>43643743
What, doesn't work for you?
>>43643780
The link just takes me to a main page where I can either "save" or "add track". I'm using a PC, is this an app or something?
>>43643780
I'm not a 12-year-old, so playing silly music isn't going to make me chuckle.
>>43643825
Wait for it to load. Well, actually, have this http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=Fm6CBqiY3rg&video_start=0&audio=MK6TXMsvgQg&audio_start=0
>>43643834
Well, I guess the joke is wasted now.
>>43643858
10 points for effort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIOaE7Mg9Y
>>43644069
Skeletons got progressively less spooky with each following game.
>>43641963
This, plus the upvote system, it basically ruins discussion because unpopular opinions get downboated to hell and are less visible to read.
>>43643336
For some reason I've always imagined the majority of the Thalmor to be comprised of edgy Altmer teens, so the black robes just "fit" for me
>>43645131
>edgy Altmer teens
That's The Beautiful. They tend to join the Psijic Order, so that'd be a grey robe as well.
>>43645428
Are they really that edgy though? I always thought of them as being kind of like the White Rose or a inverse version of the Boxers.
>>43645486
They're artists.
Also, their entire existence sounds like teens rebelling and going down on Lenin, while getting a degree in Film payed for by their parents.
>>43645508
They're domestic terrorists that deface major cultural landmarks and plot assassinations.
I think that's a bit more sever than what most angry hipsters aspire to.
>>43626170
Anyone know the artist of this picture?
>>43645540
And edgier.
>>43645674
You see that arrow by the post? Search with Google.
>>43645745
I did. Doesn't always help, in this case it just led me to a bunch of fansites and blogs.
>>43645762
http://greyannis.tumblr.com/post/60400957067/sooooort-of-a-tes-fanart-or-just-a-generic
Took me about 10 seconds of following links.
>>43645790
Clearly your google-fu is stronger than mine. Thank you.
>>43645826
Not that guy who gave you the link, but the source is literally the 6'th one on the front page.6'th house confirmed
Anybody have a good time playing UESRPG? I think i get the action economy but its seems unwieldy and clunky. I was thinking about splicing dark heresy action economy and mechanics into it without reverting to first edition as 2nd does add a lot. Any advice? Me and my gruop are a lot more familier with dark heresy then rune quest.Anyone want to share there thoughts on UESRPG 2nd edition and the mechanics, especially the special effect and round run through?
Damn this is a slow weekend.
So the sun is a hole to Aetherius that Magnus made when he bugged out of reality and the stars are holes made by other spirits following his example. These holes allow magic to flow into the world right?
If so, does the day/night cycle affect magic? Like magic is more powerful during the day since the sun is letting in more.
>>43649408
Some magic is effected by the day/night cycle, such as the Burning Moons enchant and the magic disease that causes vampirism, but for the most part the small holes left by the Magna-Ge seem to have roughly the same impact as the big one left by Magnus.
gimme a morrowind spearman build GO!
>>43649504
Huh, thanks. I was wondering if the whole rituals at night thing was because there was less magicka in the air allowing for more precise spellcraft.
>>43649553
Race: Argonain
Spec: Combat
Sign: Warrior
Attributes: Endurance, Strength
Major: Spear, Medium Armor, Athletics, Armorer, Speech
Minor: Alchemy, Mercantile, Acrobatics, Short Blade, Restoration
>>43649686
should i keep vanilla spears or use a mod? if so, which mod?
>>43649725
Vanilla works okay, though I suggest some graphic patches.
>>43649783
graphic patches for spears? would you be so kind as to direct me?
i bring gifts from daggerfall unity 0.1 released yesterday
Orsinium at Dawn
Ada-Mantia at Dusk
Mountains at Dusk
Orsinium at midnight
Ada-Mantia at midnight
(apparently the white-gold tower was built to look just like Ada-Mantia. You are looking at essentially 1994's white-gold tower)
Ada-Mantia at Dawn
do staves count as spears?
and where can i find a spear replacer to make them look better? i dont want a whole weapon replacer, just spear
>>43650484
Staves count as Blunt weapons. Just use Morrowind Overhall. It updates the graphics to more reasonable levels.
>>43650484
I think staves are blunt, but I might be wrong.
>>43650530
my shit-tier computer cant handle the overhaul. and even if it could, i still like 90% of vanilla morrowind
>>43650275
Ada-mantis at night
>>43650817
Ada-Mantis on a lizard.
ok so my character is an argonian spearman who wants to free slaves. but not all slave bracers in the game have keys. i know theres a mod that adds keys to them (and possibly to other things without keys?) to the game.
Where is this mod???
>>43648707
>d%
Why would you use that
>>43650262
>apparently the white-gold tower was built to look just like Ada-Mantia. You are looking at essentially 1994's white-gold tower
That's like, TES Basics 101
Is Tosh-Raka an avatar of Aka-tusk?
>>43651425Ulfric is. Why do you think he can talk normally and be able to Shout?
>>43651517
That's just because he's so weak. He only knows one shout and only uses it in extreme circumstances.
Speaking of shouting versus speaking, how awesome do you think the greybeards would be as a heavy metal band?
>>43651517
Same reason why the heroes in Sovngarde can do as such. Greybeards are on an entirely different level of Thu'um than others, they sacrifice their own voice to be replaced by Thu'um. They live by its dictates, they don't commandeer it like the Dragonborn does.
There is no way Ulfric has such a metaphysical importance.
oh, how I wish *this* happened
sigh :(
>>43651613
Nordjitsu?
Stille?
Roddendeadite?
Who?
>>43651634
Old Memospore stuff, just felt like dumping that here. We were going to do a TES RP with MK, but it never panned out.
Those were fun times.
>>43651529
They would be the greatest thing in Slaneesh/Ork controlled Space.
>>43651634
was supposed to be a reenactment of the arcturian heresy, using BRP
>>43651425
What do you think genius?
>>43651668
Probably a really powerful Dragonborn. (therefore the story about how "he became a dragon"
So yes.
I also think the Ka'Po'Tun are just a splinter group of the Khajiit. I'm pretty sure they are connected.
They even have martial arts and warrior monks in Elsweyr. The Cats probably travel to akavir once a month and tell nobody about it, since they're assholes.
>>43651713
I mean, he literally turned into a physical dragon. Like, it's explicitly stated that that happened.
>>43651753
its an old text. And a dragonborn IS basically a dragon.
But who knows.
>>43651894
Dracochrysalis is a big fucking difference from being born with Akatosh's blessings.
>>43651973
We don't have any other source. All there is is quote "eating dragons" what could interpreted as eating their souls.
Maybe they actually can turn into Dragons. (Or really big cats)
>>43651982
No, we do. There are multiple sources in the lore that he achieved dracochrysalis, same as Aka-tosh did, and physically turned into a dragon. There are even descriptions of his scales being stripped the same way his fur once was.
What the hell happened for the world to be this dead?
Did some big-name game come out or something?
>>43652958
Fallout 4 just dropped recently.
But it looks like shit so I'm sticking to Skyrim.
>>43653198
Oh.
Huh.
That explains everything, I suppose.
>>43625812
>Yeti-Nords
I'm pretty sure the ice-demons are related to the (ice)giants. Like the ones in atmora. The true ancestors of the nord.
Funny how man thinks they own the place when they're just filthy immigrants
>>43633406
Illusion for invisibility and/or chameleon, alchemy for magicka. Go!
>>43633406
I did a run through in skyrim like that. Played through the thieves guild questline, then was forced to kill someone.
>>43650929
There's a mod that adds a whole questline about freeing slaves, it was named after that anti-slavery organization if I remember correctly. Something with lamps. Twin Lamps? On mobile and too lazy to look it up
How did Lorkhan go about establishing linear time now again?
>>43654131
Yeah, Twin Lamps.
>>43654190
That's Akatosh.
Lorkhan did space.
>>43654251
Yes, but the time that akatosh created was not linear.
Lorkhan, as he is wont to do, pulled some shit to make it linear in Mundus.
I was wondering how.
>>43654277
He did lorkhany things.
>>43653198
>it looks like shit
>I'm sticking to Skyrim
Does not compute.
>>43653198
Why would you consider playing a fallout game made by bethesda anyways? Did fallout 3 teach you nothing?
>>43654277
No?
Aka's Time
Auriel is beginning of time
Akatosh is linear time
Alduin is end of time
>>43654334
Skyrim has the advantage of four years and talented modders who have polished that turd to something worthwhile.
It's not like any of the Elder Scrolls games are actually good or functional vanilla.
>>43654417
I could have sworn there was more to it.
Oh well.
>>43654334
Pretty much every game Bethesda made since they stopped making EA Hocky rip offs back in the 90's has been broken as shit and five years out of date. Skyrim has a better modding scene and more concept art.
>>43651397
Whats your suggestion?
Seriously i know its dead this weekend but im looking forward to a tes game but i dont know if my group can stomach the rune quest mechanics, i love everything else tho. So anyone here can reassure me as to weather or not Uesrpg 2nd edition was fun or smooth, or just generally your opinions on the matter that would help me alot.
i enabled "Screen Shot Enable=1" in the morrowind INI but i still cant take screenshots!
help!
and no i dont want MGE
>>43654960
FATE, whatever n/oWoD chug on, d20, DtD
Fucking anything's better than d%
>>43655864
Have you looked at the UESRPG 2nd edition? Besides d% fits elder scrolls like no ones buisness considering skill and what not portrayed in the video games.
I mean besides actual combat and no light/medium/heavy armor skill seht seems to have gotten it to a T. Thats why im asking for first hand experience, i dont think the combat fits well but i haven't played it yet. Any stories /tesg/?
How come redguard start off with 20 in destruction and alteration (skyrim) if they usually avoid and are superstitious of magic
>>43656030
Because Skyrim's races shouldn't be canon.
Sort of like how Imperials don't receive a bonus to speech, but are apparently the best healers instead of Bretons, who now have a bonus to speech.
>>43656030
I don't know, why are Argonians healbots instead of illusionist guerrillas in ESO?
>>43656207
>>43656084
Another thing that weirded my out was Nords getting a bonus to Restoration and Bosmer getting the best Alchemy in Oblivion.
Morrowind had the best racials, the only problem was that Altmer didn't have mysticism, which is culturally important to them. That was mainly to make Altmer glass-canons, while making Bretons defensive/utility mages.
>>43633406
>>43633446
>>43653863
>>43654036
Fuck, now I really want to do this.
What's a good name for a Breton?
>>43655837
anyone please?
seriously
>>43656030
Redguards don't trust magic that alters the soul.
They're perfectly fine with blowing a motherfucker up.
>>43656562
Something French.
>>43650275
>>43650262
>>43650247
>>43650238
>>43650228
>>43650205
What can you do?
>>43656562
>>43656630
Celtic names also work.
>>43656921
you can walk around the world. and attack. thats it. theres also a console using the ~ key. you cant make your own custom class. not all buildings are added yet. not sure about quests. yyou cant loot peoples inventory or dead bodies.
>>43655949
Sorry to keep shitting up the thread but im off to work soon and was hoping to get some discussion. I mean i dont mind lore, certainly need it for my planned rp, but actual /tg/ never seems to be discussed. Is this just a /v/ wiafu refugee thread?
>>43657095
HAHAHAHA, /v/'s /tesg/ is for skyrim mods. they're skyrimfags. we're just elderfags
>>43657095
Sort of. It's mostly book stuff, and rambling from MK. We also do /tg/.
>>43657095
we talk about morrowind
>>43657351
>>43657161
>>43657157
Well now that i have your attention you guys wouldn't happened to have played UESRPG 2nd edition would you?
>>43657478
About a month ago there was a /tgesg/ game going on, I don't know what they're up to.
>>43657478
dunno how to or what it is
>>43654960
>>43655949
>>43657095
Not sure if you're still around or not.
The combat can definitely be a bit on the clunky side, but it isn't as bad as you think once you've got some practice with it. It shines best in smaller engagements when you can really have fun with the special effect system. Larger engagements can work, but they can become unwieldy if you aren't running with the optional NPC combat rules in the bestiary and are instead trying to handle everyone with the same level of detail as the PCs.
Did you have any specific fears about the combat? Is it the way the cycle works? Or how special effects function? Both are pretty different from the more traditional style of combat we had in first edition so I can understand where you're coming from.
>>43657478
Working on setting up a game with a guy I know now.
>>43657478
Tried to set it up ages ago, but the dude bailed.Liam, I know you're here. Bby, pls, just run the game.
>>43658359
Not him, but hello.
>>43658597
I'm in college, and I'm trying to hide my power-level from my roommate. Is Saturday good?
Started daggerfall. No matter what I bind swing weapon to, I can't swing weapons. wat do.
>>43658870
You have to drag the mouse while clicking, not just hit the button.
If you want to swing right, click the hit button and move the mouse --->. If you want to swing left click the hit button and move the mouse <----.
I have a request
I already have a replacer for the Robe of Drakes Pride
But I love this robes design
Could someone make it so i can keep my drakes pride robe as it is, and have this robe as something seperate???
http://mw.modhistory.com/download-64-6547
>>43658042
How does the cycle/initiative system work? I thought it was a roll a d10, add initiative bonus, decide order from highest to lowest, but then I started seeing things for action points and I can't find them in the core rule book.
>>43656317
Because of their connection to Kyne?The stats in skyrim are fucked up anyways. Khajiit have +12 melee dmg, even if it says 15.
Also argonians & bosmer still can get sick and poisoned, even if you wear 100% protection talismans.
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Dont take
>>43661153
And Argonians have no Illusion bonus, while Imperials are apparently all master healers now.
Would the Khajiit have marriages as we know it?
>>43661274
Given their attitudes towards property, I doubt it. Favoured partners, yes. Contractual mutual obligations? No. Not unless they've been very Imperial-ised in culture.
>>43661274
Who knows.
Tje Cats are Insane. The Nomads may have more strange rites and practices, a lot of drugs, and probably something like the red wedding combined with the dothraki one.
Or they just marry like good imperials, just to screw with your expectations.
:3
>>43661328
They fuck around a lot. But maybe they bound if they get older.
Apparently they have Lords and Tribe-Leaders. But im not sure how they pass these titles. Shit,I'm pretty sure hermaeus mora would be confused if he had to write the average Khajiits family tree.
What the fuck is a jill. I've never seen mention of these in any of the games I've played (Morrowind and Skyrim). Something to do with Dragons?
>>43661578
Female dragons. They repair, or try to repair, the timeline after a dragonbreak.
>>43661578
they arent in games. its MK fanfiction.
a jill is a female dragon.
which is retarted.
>>43661617
>>43661616
Why are they called that? I have nothing against MK fanfiction.
>>43661240
I told you the stats are fucked. Probably just another mistake they couldnt fix in Time
>>43661660
Gill (pronounced like jill) is an archaic term for a lover. I assume it has something to do with that.
>>43661617
Wasnt one of the two frozen lake dragons in the dawnguard dlc named like one jill in the MK story?
I wish my computer would work so i could do a little bit research to find out who came first.
>>43661719
MK probably picked up the name to make another connection to his spaghetti-lore.
I wish he would write more about the cats.
>>43649553
I actually made a spear character when I booted up the game for the first time in a couple years last night. I finally go ta spear, took a test swing, and then remembered the spear animation is ass. Is there any mods to make it a stabbing motion, instead of a big swing?
Tunnelcats rule
>>43661663
you think there any good mods for either Oblivion or Skyrim that changes racial stats?
>>43662023
Do you mean replace the actual stab animation that's already there? Because your post could be interpreted as not realising there is one already there and I don't want it to be that option.
>>43660527
come on, i know someone can do it
>>43662489
Ask /tesg/.
>>43662023
Forward and backward movement. Or you could just select the option to always use the best type of attack in the menu.
>>43663031
/tesg/ only cares about skyrim and nothing else
>>43662320
It's piss easy to do that yourself though. I've done it when I was experimenting with difficulty tweaks at start up. All you do is go into the race and change some numbers.
>>43663770
oh true. Thanks m8e
>>43629749
The Numidium always reminds me of Liberty Prime from Fallout 3
>>43663770
I don't know if I should be this upset as somebody who doesn't have autism.
>>43663770
Wait, how? I don't know how modding really works outside of NMM. Is it just something in the .ini file?
>>43664271
Shit, the first bits was for
>>43664111
>>43664271
Download the construction kit through steam. Launch it.
Go to data files, and choose the base game, which should be skyrim.esm (or oblivion.esm). check the box near it.
Load everything up. you don't want to have an active file.
Play around with the box that has all the object records in it. It should be a box with things like magic, actor, items, etc all in it, with expandable menus.
Find your race you want to modify in that box. There are a lot of races in it, but the playable ones should have similarly templated names.
Go into that race's record by double clicking on it. Another box full of stats should show up.
Play around with the tabs in that box. Eventually you'll find their racial bonuses. Change them to your heart's content.
Save your entire project as a new ESP. Name it something you'll recognize.
Set it to last in your load order, start a new game, and see if it worked.
If it didn't work, you edited the wrong race, or didn't enable your mod.
>>43660940
You're mostly right. Basically it works like this:
>Everybody has a certain number of AP (usually 2)
>Proceed down initiative order taking turns
>One action per turn, which burns an AP
>Once everyone has gone once, if anyone has AP left then restart the cycle (but you can't act if you have no AP)
>Can burn AP out of order to make reactions
It's all in chapter 5
>>43664616
And when AP runs out?
>>43662320
Just check the nexus page and veeges thread.
Inofficial patches , race fixes, its all there.
Currently i'm
Working on a unarmed khajiit character. I'm using the claw fix mod, entchanted heavy gloves and the heavy armor perk. Its fun. But hard against real enemies. I miss acrobatics and unarmed combat skill trees.
>>43664111
Well, they're both big stompy robots with a tendency to shout at things.
"REALITY IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAILURE!"
>>43668032
"ANTICREATION IS NON-NEGOTIABLE!"
>>43667659
Why is Beth so obsessed with removing things.
>>43668400
they figure people don't wan rpg's
they want simple pick up and play action game that they're comfortable with featuring a fantasy world that's not too weird or different
they want your ass creeds and batman arkhams
I guarantee the next elder scrolls game will go so far as to have that style of combat and have as much skill progression
that is to say, more health and stuff
How does this sound for a Redguard
Standing stone (pretending it's a birthsign)
>The Lady
Major skills
>One Handed
>Archery
>Light armor
>Speech
>Lockpicking
>Alchemy
>Smithing
A general no magic kind of adventurer that takes on enemies one at a time with poison on his blades and picks locks in the dungeons he visits
:/
>>43668433
Nah they couldn't have the Arkham style combat, that requires good animation.
It'll be Fallout 4's system streamlined even more.
>>43672369
>streamlined
>>43668969
>One Handed
Long Blade
>Archery
Marksman
>Speech
Speechcraft
>Lockpicking
Security
>Smithing
Armorer
Now you're okay.
>>43673437
Kinda hate this pick, at least where oblivion is concerned. Oblivion did have better quests then morrowind ( not counting the main quest or dlc, they were on par) and the dynamic ai did a lot for the atmosphere. I mean morrowind still did everything supporting its atmosphere better exept that. You know it was wierd rolling into balmora at 3 in the morning and everybodys doing there thing like it was afternoon.
>>43668433
>>43672369
One armor slot, one weapon slot, and dialogue wheels. Be hype.
>>43674022
Don't forget that there are no racial bonuses, since that would be wacist.
>>43673857
It is to something to be expected from a game that old. The thing that makes Morrowind still great even after all these years is the coherent and thought out world it presents. Graphics, physics and AI get better, but if the setting gets more and more "streamlined", aka dumped down, I take old tech over new one any day.
>>43674199
And the quest is to stop the evil Empire from stealing Ulfric's sweetroll and giving it to the Thalmor elves.
>>43673857
Oblivion is represented by a solid, stable block, nothing wrong with this.
>Write The Seven Fights of The Aldudagga
>Never include Fight 5 or 7
WTF Come on.
>>43676415
>being surprised that old as fuck stories are fragmentary at best
>>43654277
>>43654710
actually before creation of mundus time was flowing out from aka, but there was no future past or present yet. everything just existed. when mundus and nirn were created and the first tower was made to judge lorkhan, time was not linear. now the towers stabilise the material world. The first tower kept mundus separate from oblivion and aetherius, but when second tower was created ( from heart of lorkhan) the time started to flow from aka to lorkhan. from this moment on things started happening on their own as time was linear.
there is also thus bit waen aka and lorkhan are the same, but i will leave you with it.
>>43676682
>there is also thus bit waen aka and lorkhan are the same, but i will leave you with it.
Sorry, haven't been to Wales.
How is it?
why is there no nude almalexia or nude vivec mods for morrowind yet
![1423619384807[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/tpVtyUW.png "1423619384807[1].png")
>>43679473
>>43679473
Because that's most of their books.Also, Vivec's dick is non-euclidean
wheres that pic of oblivion sheogorath dancing with skyrim sheogorath?
Why is the ending of the words ALMSIVI?
>>43681467
What?
>>43684062
If you're wondering about where "the ending of the words" comes from, it's Thelema: http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/ABRAHADABRA
MK intended for ALMSIVI to be a Tetragrammaton-style name to reference the ALMSIVI.
