New Updated agreed upon OP image edition
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
>Started just playing armies with stuff I like the look of instead of most efficient
>Have more fun
>The two WAAC guys (who are like 100% fucking each other) complain that I don't bring my gladius anymore
Why are people like this.
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This thread is now Undead!
Made this list purely out of the models I have. Is it playable at 1k points?
GREY KNIGHTS NEMESIS STRIKE FORCE - 530
HQ - Castellan Crowe - 175
HQ - Brotherhood Champion - 150
TROOPS - Terminators - 205
Incinerator
3x NDH
Inquisition - 253
HQ - Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - 50
Psychostroke Grenades
Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon
HQ - Ordo Malleus Inquisitor - 48
Power Armor
Daemonblade
Elites - 95
2x Crusader
2x Death Cult Assassin
1x Ministorum Priest
Psyker
Chimera - 60
Psybolts
Militarum Tempestus - 215
HQ - Command Squad - 125
4x Melta Guns
TROOPS - Scions - 90
2x HSVGs
998/1000
>>47373865
It seems like you miss out on one of the major benefits of Inquisition, which is having 5 pt bolter carriers. Missing out on a mountain of cheap infantry makes Corteaz sad.
Casting for Horus Heresy on HBO:
The Emperor: Ian Mckellan
Horus: Chris Evans
Fulgrim: Jaime lanister
Mortarion: Tom Hardy
Konrad Kurze: Tom Hiddlestone
Angron: Rory Mechan
Alpharius/Omegon: Mat Damon/Marky Mark
Lorgar: Michael Cera, Erebus is Jesse Eisenberg, Phaeron is Ian McDiarmid.
Pertarbo: Shane
Magnus the Red: Young Magneto
Sanganius: Ben Afleck
Lionel Johnson: Chris Hemsworth, Luthor is Charles Danz
Vulcan: Forest Whitaker
Rogal Dorn: Stannis
Ferrus Manus: John Snow
Corax: Norman Reedus
Leman Rus: Hugh Jackman
Gulliman: New Obi-Wan
Jaghatai Khan: The Rock
>>47373847
No idea. I did the same thing as you and have way more fun because painting and playing with awesome claw termies teleporting into the most hilarious and risky spots and stomping around with shitty AV12 boxnaughts is a million more times fun and 40k than trying to gamble for the most OP psychic powers to throw on my ugly retarded centurion suits
Hey, can I get some feedback on a list? It's Tyrant's Legion list I whipped up in just a night, so it's probably not that great, but it's just for a quick casual game.
HQ
>Carnac Commodus - 105 pts
>4x Auxilia Bodyguards and Tribune w/ carapace armour, krak grenades and heavy weapon team - 110 pts
ELITES
>10x Retaliators w/ Rhino, meltagun and power maul - 240 pts
TROOPS
>10x Auxilia Armsmen w/ Chimera, meltagun, krak grenades and a meltabomb - 155 pts
>30x Legion Auxilia w/ x3 flamers - 115 pts
>15x Legion Space Marines w/ 2x heavy bolters
HEAVY SUPPORT
>Contemptor Dreadnought w/ Extra Armour, Heavy Flamer and Kheres Assault Cannon - 210 pts
>2x Rapier Laser Destroyers w/ Prefect - 75 pts
>2x Basilisks - 250 pts
I was thinking of getting rid of the rapiers and some other gear and go for some dedicated heavy armour instead, as this list is mostly infantry with only a few transports. Or maybe just go "fuck it" and spent it on more auxilia for maximum pink tide.
>>47373972
10 acolytes and 1 psyker. 7 with bolters, 3 with plasma guns and the psyker rolling on divination for rerolls to hit and hopeful full BS overwatch and ignores cover.
87 points total.
>>47374096
>Fucking love terminators
>Tyranid friend loves swarming the table with an insane amount of cannon fodder
>We both get to laugh as my mostly terminator army wades through a sea of bugs and sometimes end the game with like one Terminator left
But then it gets ruined when the War Convo player wants to show off his knights and we both have to take out stupid cheese lists if we don't want to get tabled in one or two turns.
>>47374126
I'll consider it.
Is the list at least decent otherwise?
>>47374076
>implying even HBO could afford such a star studded cast
>>47374218
It could be fun, but you are playing with far too many snowflakes. Most of your points are tied up in HQ units, which leaves you with the unfortunate side effect that getting tabled is really easy.
The individual units are all fine, you just have too many specialists. There is a reason no one runs 10 assassins as an army.
>>47374265
Hey man, it is a wish list. HBO wouldn't touch WH40K with a 10 ft. pole.
>>47374076
Alpharius and Omegon should be played and credited for Elijah Wood and Daniel Radcliffe.
And then after Alpharius is "assassinated" they are both played by Toby Maguire and he wears different makeup and costumes for each of them.
>>47374178
>both armies are full of deep strikers
>board is full of skyscrapers and high ruins
>allow units to deep strike on to other units
>counts as a tank shock
>if you knock other models off the narrow ledges they're perched on, they use the old fall damage rules
>literally playing 40K Tetris and Jenga
Yeah GW writes terrible rules, but the people who think 40K can work as a competitive game without a complete overhaul are just as dumb. 40K was specifically meant for and tailor made for retarded and fun shit, not serious business gaming. This is why cheesy WAAC builds are so polarizing. You either hate them or love them.
>>47374351
Dude that sounds perfect for me and my Nid friend.
We talked about how cool it would have looked if my drop pods could actually crash through a building to squish a bunch of his cannon fodder bugs and have people falling off buildings to their death.
Would have made the death of his Flyrant look fucking cool too, giant ass bug crashing down to the street and landing on the Marines shooting at it.
what is the cheapest infiltrating unit and is it possible to get enough of them to cover an entire 4x6 table with them 2" apart
>>47374329
>U
That sounds like a hilarious distraction arc. "Season 4 will be about Omegon and Alpharius. It is now a romantic comedy."
I know there's a lot of tau hate here but I've been thinking of starting a non-op tau army utilizing lots of guerilla warfare tactics so no vehicles lots of infantry stealth suits drones and maybe a unit of crisis suits. No giant robots, except maybe one ghost keel.
Thoughts? Still op?
>watching 4chan Babby Cup
>/sp/ is drawing with /g/
>fucking /sp/
Yet we couldn't be /g/ and we flopped out. Why has /tg/ become so shit at 4chan Cups?
>>47374478
>>47374576
Is it time for that again already
Next thing you know it'll be time for prom, who're we taking this year /tg/
>>47374644
The group stages are already over. /tg/ came 3rd in the group. We were in the Winter Cup but we came 3rd in the group. We got relegated to Babby Cup.
We used to be World Rank No.1... Then we got a new manager and can't do shit.
>>47374478
>servo skulls
>>47374076
Ian Mckellan is prob going to die soon.
Horus should be played by Sir Patrick Stewart. He's bald.
>Sanguinius
>Ben Afleck
Time you blow you away.
>/sp/ is winning 3-1
>against /g/
/tg/ fucking sucks. I'm going to commit sudoku.
>>47373847
So they're faggots in two senses?
What's a good source for news regarding 40k-tabletop?
>>47374789
I feel super retarded for asking, but where can I watch
>>47374872
Board thinks it's spam, check my picture.
>>47374076
>Jaghatai Khan: The Rock
>not Ken Watanabe
kid...
>>47374735
this guy understands proper casting. 10/10 list
>>47374868
There is none.
Faeit 212 will mention any rumour just for ad revenue.
>WHFB will have 5 factions
>Source: anonymous
>40k is going to formations only!
>via anonymous sources
>A very very salty rumor about 40k End Times. From an undisclosed message, it seems End Times will come through this year with another name(s), it will be (translate from spanish) more changes about game system than fluff. Expect to play only formations and the point system will be gone.
So, enjoy.
>>47374076
This list sucks.
>>47374735
This list rocks. The only one I don't agree with is Horus, but it's good enough for me. Also Angron.
>>47374963
Lies, this is oddly the best place for 40k news
Clickbait websites are nothing but that
>>47374735
Hiddleston as Kurze? Garbage casting man. Why cast a witty person as a snarling jerk?
>>47374900
>tfw Malal is gone forever
Feels bad man
>>47375001
Because Hiddleston can do condescending well. Plus, remember when Kurze gets killed by the qt3.14 Assassin? He does a cool monologue about "you kill me, and i'll be right lol". I think he'd be great at it.
>garbage
Come on man :( Bit rude :( Who would you pick? I'm just thinking of 'popular' actors. Hiddleston is liked by girls.
Hi guys, I'm new to the 40k series and wanted to get an army or squad of my own. The grey Knights really caught my and was wondering if they're a good starting point for me.
Is da suppa cybork Gubbinz worth the 50points?
The warboss just feels so weak and flimsy without eternal warrior
>>47373847
Different people have fun in different ways.
While I find bringing a 3 Chapter Master Battle-Forged A-Team list at 1500 points fun, I tend to have more fun playing to win against my opponent while he does the same to me.
When one person brings a serious list and the other one doesn't neither person has much fun.
Try talking to them before hand and coordinating so it doesn't happen.
>>47375003
>Faeit Rumour 2014
>THERE WILL BE A 5th 40k CHAOS GOD
>Carnac screams "IT'S BE'LAKOR! :DDD"
>>47374998
It's OK. The problem is, people get info from elsewhere. Usually from German/Spanish sites. Faeit and Co just use shit for ad revenue. Places like Spikybits regurgitate BoLS stuff. Though I like Spikybits cause they shat on that German guy who is running a massive website where he scans GW content, puts a watermark on it and says it's legal. He got a C&D from GW and he replied, quite literally, "Suck my dicks, I'm not taking it down". He said it's legal cause of German copyright law. He is also financially supported by the German government for "promoting hobbies" or some shit.
>>47375039
No, get the Sons of Malice
>>47375039
GK's are in an iffy spot right now from a competitive standpoint. They are a very melee-focused army in a very gun-focused metagame. Their Dreadknights and Terminators are both pretty good, and they do look the coolest out of any Marine faction.
If you like them, then go for it. Hint: buy your stuff from ebay for a decent discount and free shipping in the U.S. One nice thing is that they aren't very model-heavy, so they're a bit cheaper to purchase.
>>47375088
Who are the sons of malice?
>>47375089
Thanks man I really appreciate it. Do they have any gun options going for them?
>>47375111
>http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Sons_of_Malice
>>47375032
Sorry, that was rude of me.
The issue to me is that Kurze is neither pretty nor a witty guy. Last Heretic he is described as basically a gaunt, soulless looking monster. I would almost prefer swapping him and Benedict Cumberbatch, as Cumberbatch as least is cold and ugly as sin.
>>47375039
If you want to play fluffy, then they're fun. But if you want to win, they're not great.
>>47375111
The sons of Malice.
>>47375132
>guns
Psycannons are okay. They used to be a lot more powerful, but it takes a lot out of points to buy them.
Dreadnoughts can take twin-linked lascannons and shoot stuff from long range. DreadKNIGHTs can get heavy psycannons that are worth it.
You can always take some normal Marines and get a few Devastator Squads to round out your long-range.
Militarum Tempestus scions can deepstrike and take lots of special weapons (plasma/melta/volleyguns)
Imperial Guard have tanks and artillery.
So GK's themselves are not wonderful shots but they know a guy who knows a guy and they can get the right stuff if they need it.
>>47375165
>ugly as sin
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2441280/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Emma-Watson-voted-SEXIEST-movie-stars-world.html
He isn't that ugly, at least to cinema going audiences, maybe to you.
I want to ask if you're Carnac, I would assume you are.
I think Cumberbatch would do better as Magnus as he can do the smart egomaniac. As for Kurze... Keanu Reeves? He can do cold as well AND do the whole ninja shit.
>>47375133
Edgy even for chaos marines; I like them
>>47375132
They get a decent amount of Instant Death on their guns. This is much less useful than it sounds but it still comes in handy when facing certain types of enemies like Monstrous Creatures.
Otherwise their basic weapons are better versions of the standard Space Marine weapon. You get a lot fewer of the guns however since your units cost more.
>>47375258
They're tamer than the Flesh Tearers quite frankly.
>>47375236
He looks like a fucking horse.
Not Carnac, but that guy must have lit this place on fire if everyone who opines differently then the TG group-think gets associated with him.
I like Reeves for Kurze, seems to fit.
>>47375271
>Flesh Tearers
Fucking pansies.
t. Carcharodons
>>47375215
Ah I see. I think I'll get a terminator squad but what other units would you recommend I also get?
>>47375290
you mean the Space Sharks who were not dark enough for edgy as fuck forge world "muh Carcharodons"
>>47375258
Too bad the guy that made Malal left GW and fucking took him
>>47375288
No no, I just thought it might be him based on the mention of Kurze's description, that's all. I could have just not replied or told you to fuck off. But I didn't. I wanted to talk about it.
As for looking like a horse, he has lots of fans on USA for some reason. I dunno why. I think Reeves would be cool too. Need to have the hair photoshopped onto Reeves.
Or get a good Reeves picture and put it on that picture.
>>47375318
Well, to be honest, lots of stuff has changed. You don't hear about Rainbow Warriors any more, do you? You know, the Chapter which was lead by like 1 Chapter Master and 10 Captains, all in Dreadnoughts or some shit.
Fun fact, Culln, the Red Scorps Chapter Master, gets 'killed' in Imperial Armour 14 and put into a Leviathan Dread.
>>47375304
Grab a Termie squad (or 2) and a Librarian. The nice thing is that technically you don't need 2 troops to run GK's since they have the Nemesis Strike Force. Taking 2 does get you objective secured, though, which is a plus.
A Strike Squad (magnetize them!) or Dreadknight would also be a good idea.
If you haven't already, take a look at their codex in the top of the thread. Build a list before you get anything and we'll tell you if it sucks or not.
>>47375304
Get 2 terminator Squads. You can make 2 squads or convert up a librarian/draigo etc out of them. Also get a dreadknight and some power armor guys. I suggest making half interceptors and half power armor guys if you don't want to magnetize. Then later on you can get more another box of 10 power armor guys, more terminators, another dreadknight and some rhinos
>>47375290
Just saying, Nassir Amit would absolutely DESTROY Tyberos. No question. Hell, even Gabriel Seth would give him a run for his money with a shit ton of S9 Rending attacks at I5 (or I6 if he gets the charge off). Only one would need to get past his saves for Tyberos to get instagibbed.
Both have some cool lore though, no doubt. I'm quite tempted to run a Flesh Tearers/Space Sharks list now. Mainly so I could use a codex that isn't gimped to all hell.
>>47375320
Malal, like squats was fucking lame.
I'm glad that shit is gone.
>>47375304
Hey, man. Here's the list I ran against some Blood Angels and actually won. I don't know what other anons will say or if you'll get any inspiration from it, but it did kind of underperform because by some stroke of luck I rolled 3 6's for my 3 Termie squads to come in from Deep Strike on the first turn, so the Comms Relay was useless that match. I'm sure it will come in handy in a future match.
http://pastebin.com/v6eiHJKG
>>47375483
this will trigger some people. good job.
>>47375483
You have shit taste, I bet you worship Khorne
>>47375438
He only does 6 attacks. Yes, they're S9 Rending, but they're AP4. Tyberos is in Terminator Armour, meaning 2+ saves. Tyberos also has Pref Enemy: Infantry, meaning Seth is going to suffer from that. Furthermore Seth is only 3+/4+.
It probably would go to Seth though if he got the charge off, simply because, despite Tyberos being able to one hit Seth, it's at I1.
They do have cool lore. I've also wanted to make a FT/Carc list as well. I wanted to know the smallest army I could make with them.
I wanted Seth as Warlord for FT and Tyberos for Carc. I wanted a Ass Terminator DTC bodyguard as well.
>>47375524
I bought a Chaos Terminator Lord just so I could run a knock-off version of this dude in my Sons of Malice army.
Khorne Daemonkin codex works surpisingly well for them too, with Goredrinker being a great Dreadaxe stand-in.
>>47375643
You have a sons of malice army? Post picture
>>47375595
Tyberos and Seth would be a fun team to run, I just wish Seth was more viable.
He's too slow to really go with anything in C:BA besides maybe footslogging Van Vets/Ass Squads. No good reason he's a LOW choice either, especially at his point cost.
I never got how an army that includes Dante or Calgar still needs another HQ to hold down the fort.
So what's the consensus on the Macharius, or at least the Vanquisher variant? I've asked about the Baneblade line and the general consensus was "Overpriced". So now I'm curious about the cheaper superheavies. The Macharus in particular interests me because it has a twin-linked Vanquisher Cannon, 6 HP and 3 HS's. Yet I could just buy 2 actual Vanquishers for less and get 6 HB's and 6 HP combined instead. So the price increase really becomes "Is the ability to stitch to Battle Tank rounds worth the extra price and 50% less AT potential?
>>47374539
Depends. Optimized Stealth Cadre is stupid due to positioning no longer mattering, so if your list includes that, it might still be considered op by some.
>>47375499
This was actually really helpful and appreciate it greatly. I was also thinking about getting a paladin knight but having it done in a grey knight style.
Feedback? Opinions? Counters?
Scoot Scoot Scoot Scoot: 1500 point list
CA Detachment - Space Marines
Salamanders Chapter Tactics
HQ
085*1 UNIT
065-Librarian
020-Bike
015-Grav Pistol
Troops
125*4 UNITS
055-x4 scouts, x1 scout sergeant
010-Camo Cloaks
005-Sniper Rifles
040-DTrans Land Speeder Storm
015-Assault Cannon
Elites
200*1 UNIT
090-x5 Command Squad
075-x5 Grav Guns
035-Bikes
Heavy
115*2 UNITS
075-Predator
040-Sponsoon Las Cannons
Detachment Raptor Wing Formation
Iron Hands Chapter Tactics
240*1 UNIT
135-x3 Land Speeders
075-x3 Typhoon Missile Launchers
030-x3 Multi-Melta's
>>47375818
shit, bottom got cut off.
Scoot Scoot Scoot Scoot: 1500 point list
CA Detachment - Space Marines
Salamanders Chapter Tactics
HQ
085*1 UNIT
065-Librarian
020-Bike
015-Grav Pistol
Troops
125*4 UNITS
055-x4 scouts, x1 scout sergeant
010-Camo Cloaks
005-Sniper Rifles
040-DTrans Land Speeder Storm
015-Assault Cannon
Elites
200*1 UNIT
090-x5 Command Squad
075-x5 Grav Guns
035-Bikes
Heavy
115*2 UNITS
075-Predator
040-Sponsoon Las Cannons
Detachment Raptor Wing Formation
Iron Hands Chapter Tactics
240*1 UNIT
135-x3 Land Speeders
075-x3 Typhoon Missile Launchers
030-x3 Multi-Melta's
115*2 UNITS
110-Stormtalen Gunship
005-Skyhammer Missile Launcher
>>47375698
It's only run via proxies. I only have 1 actually Chaos model and he's unpainted,just like my 8250 points of Flesh Tearers and Skitarii. I'm to scared of ruining my models with my shit painting skills to do anything with them. I'm waiting till I get a decent metal model to paint and strip till I git gud.
>>47375420
I really like this set up, I was also planning on maybe getting an imperial paladin knight in a grey knight style and a dreadnougt or 2
>>47375816
No prob. Though, I personally would run a Crusader for more dakka while you wait to get your terminators in from Deep Strike if they don't come in first turn.
>>47375848
I hope you meant dreadknights. Our Dreadnoughts are shit.
>>47375845
Or you can hire a pro painter.
Am i a bad person for not wanting to play against unpainted armies?
>>47375878
Really? They looked cool but seeing the dreadknights I might as well replace the dreadnoughts
>>47375784
Foot Slogging DC? Terminators (yeah they're aren't great, but who cares?)
>>47375941
What a charming fellow.
I'm sure he only collects dead spiders for research purposes.
>>47375951
It depends. Are you open to play smaller games?
If you pretend 1750+ points of full painted armies from anyone, then yes, you kind of are.
>>47375951
Depends, if the guys never paints his shit then no but if he does paint his shit and is in the process of doing so then yes.
>>47375981
I've tried to run footslogging DC before.
They draw fire from literally everyone on the board and I've yet to have them make it to turn 3 alive. Drop podding them in is an option but then you have a decently expensive unit that can't do much besides get shot for a turn,a nd they aren't too resilient. Add in a Chapter Master and you got a very juicy target ripe for the picking. Terminators would be almost just as bad since I think they'd lose their ability to Deep Strike once Seth joins them, making them only viable dropped out of a Storm Raven or Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer, unless Seth joined them later in the battle.
>>47375982
>never had the hardest trip by watching Blackstar of David Bowie
>>47375951
It really takes you out of the game, no doubt. I really dislike fielding my guys gray even against other gray guys.
Planning on going to an escalation event at an LGS that I've never been to before. The first event starts at 500pts, and then increases by 500pts every week. What armies/units do you think I'll run into the most?
>>47374076
because let's be honest, no one is going to make a TV show in [current year] without a bunch of strong women protagonist
>>47376121
this is why i believe we need to allow DC to charge from deep strike i dont think it would break the game to much.
>>47376189
It would work because the primarchs are basically big whiny girls anyways.
>>47375951
nah thats just preference. do whatever you want just don't bitch or brag about it, thats what people hate.
>>47376208
that's fucking dumb. If you say that then every army with deep strike should be able to charge from deep strike then.
Speaking of Malal, didn't GW rename him Malice, and all his other stuff was only slightly changed so they could keep the IP? Y'know, like the Sons of Malice? Thereby keeping him canon, just unmentioned?
>>47375835
Do we just not respond to list posts anymore?
>>47376208
Oh god, I'm just imaging Death Company Dreanoughts or a DC squad led by Lemartes if that were the case.
>>47376252
Hell, It'd be a good way to make Assault more viable outside of invisible bike death stars. Its not like all the top armies don't already have Assault from Reserves/Turn 1 Assault Formations already. It'd just go all the way and give the weaker armies the same capabilities.
>>47376349
It might make lemartes worth his points as right now he is overcosted
>>47376252
Id be up for it, might make armies like nids and GK viable without having to spam bullshit units
>>47376404
>might makes GKs viable without having to spam bullshit units
All those Combat Squaded Purifiers in Allied Drop Pods.
>>47376404
I'm fine with his points, but he needs a change to how you take him. He should be an upgrade for a standard Chaplain or a No Force Org choice if you take any Death Company Squad. No idea why he's in the most crowded section of the entire codex.
>>47376478
Rip Allied Pods
Convince me to like and/or play Chaos.
>>47376180
tau eldar and space marines
>>47376590
I'd only recommend chaos as a second army.
>>47376491
I'm kinda happy for it. The only time anyone ever mentioned Flesh Tearers in a competitive sense was for their drop pod cheese. I'm fine less people like that playing my faction.
>>47376590
When you play as them and lose, it's never your fault since your codex is one of the worst in the game.
If you play as them and win, then it's all because of you and your skill since your codex is one of the worst in the game.
Plus just about half your models are still metal. When you get mad at your opponent you can throw all your dudes at him. When he's sent screaming back to the warp you can steal his army so you actually have a good one to play.
>>47376616
That's what I figured. At a 500-1000pt range, would people try to squueze in as much armor/vehicles as possible, or rely mostly on infantry?
>>47376891
if you're playing against extremely dickish guard they might run an all armour list and ruin your day
Just finished a game, D-99 vs Iron Hands. I was thinking about doing a battle report, but I decided not to since I thought it would be a blowout and we were both using a bunch of goofy proxies. I'm kind of disappointed because it turned out to be a hell of a game, final score 14 for D-99 and 13 for Iron Hands.
Rough army outlines:
>D-99
Solomon Lok
2x Exterminator squads w/ Lascannon Valkyries
2x Vet Squads
4x Tauros Venator w/ Lascannons, HK Missiles, Camo Netting
1x Tauros w/ Heavy Flamer
1x Heavy Bolter Tarantula
2x Punisher Vultures
>Iron Hands
Chaplain
2x Techmarine
3x Tactical squads
3x Grav Centurions
3x Assault Centurions
2x Land Raiders (Lascannon, Flamestorm)
Deredeo Dreadnought
Just thought I'd mention this since I've been asking about Elysian/D-99 for a couple of threads and now I've got something to contribute on their viability. The Venators make for a brutal alpha strike against medium armor (two of them immobilized and weapon destroyed the Deredeo on the first turn, killed it on the second), but were largely ineffective against the heavy armor of the Land Raiders.
Five drop squads make up for the lack of mobility of the Venators, but Flak Armor means they're really only useful to capture a single point, and maybe a single potshot with a meltagun if they're lucky.
If not today, at what point was 40k player count at its peak?
>>47376616
How long until Tau are the single most popular army?
It's probably already up there among recent first-timers. The conjunction of anime, vidya, and tabletop fanbases may have made it inevitable.
>>47377002
Can you post the BR? I was thinking starting a d99 army myself or Elyians at any rate
>>47377290
the owner of my lgs spend $500+ to get his tyranid army painted and the moment the tau got updated he switched to them because of the cheese
i don't go there anymore
Wonder if the BA and other factions dreads will be errated up to 4 attacks since they seem to be doing erratas also
>>47377290
Ironically enough, none of my weaboo friends like Tau.
>>47377342
Cheese comes and goes. Tau haven't been the very best in a while. Given GWs "throw darts" balancing odds are they'll be eclipsed over time.
>>47377290
I play Tau, though I also play 5 other armies, so I'm not sure if that counts.
>>47377426
you sound like a swell guy, what armies
Would relaunching SoB attract more women to 40k, repel them even further, or be a neutral action?
Assume that everything else stays the same, and SoB are just refreshed ala Tau, not rewritten ala Necrons.
>>47377441
Tau, Chaos Marines with Daemon allies, Eldar/Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Sisters of Battle, and Space Marines.
Most of them aren't too large, but I just love a lot of the stuff in 40k
>>47377534
you are the legendary swell guy
>>47377493
Unlikely to do much, 40k doesn't get advertised enough.
>>47377493
Nothing.
>>47377397
I love Tau, but not for the weeaboo factor, I like them for the reason that they don't know any better in the fluff. They think they're so high and mighty while being humble and accepting. That is until you disagree with them, then they come down on you like a swarm of wasps. It's almost adorable how naive they are to issues outside of their tiny empire. I really do wish they would've gone more of the "Xeno Coallition" route instead of ROBOTS everywhere, though.
I also play Grey Knights, and just last week I spent $200 on starting Dark Eldar.
where do i find the glossary of acronyms on dakka dakka?
The general goal is to park my scout marines on some objective markers and give them a wide field of fire, using them as bait, then use the land speeder storms as fire support. On turn 2 the gunships come in and cripple enemy transports/ aircraft. This list has lots of high level dakka and can also spam templates, with just enough anti armor to get by.
Scoot Scoot Scoot Scoot: 1500 point list
CA Detachment - Space Marines
Iron Hand Tactics
HQ
85p 1 UNIT
Librarian, Bike, Grav Pistol
Troops
500p 4 UNITS
125 Scout Squad x4 scouts, x1 scout sergeant, Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles, DTrans Land Speeder Storm ,Assault Cannon
Elites
200p 1 UNIT
Command Squad x5 Veterans, x5 Grav Guns, Bikes
Heavy
230p 2 UNITS
Predator, Sponsoon Las Cannons
Detachment Raptor Wing Formation
Iron Hands Chapter Tactics
240p 1 UNIT
Land Speeder Squadron, x3 Land Speeders, x3 Typhoon Missile Launchers, x3 Multi-Melta's
230p 2 UNITS
Stormtalen Gunship, Skyhammer Missile Launcher
Feedback?
>>47377821
Why Predators and not Devastators or... anything else, really?
>>47377837
I dunno, just wanted some cheap, mobile, armored, anti-armor/extra flak.
I'm not sure what i'd put on the devastators if I did that. What would you replace them with?
>>47377874
Plasma or Las Cannon Devastators in Rhinos (which can also act as a nice shield wall).
>>47374076
>Alpharius/Omegon:: Mat Damon/Marky Mark
Pleb casting, should be:
>>Alpharius/Omegon:: Justin Biber/Mily Cryrus playing a boy.
>>47377935
I dunno, 2 las plus 1 auto is kinda like a full devastator squad all by itself.
Even a half squad of Devestators with 4 plasma cannons and a rhino is 165 points
What's your favorite 40k novel bit/quote /tg/? The one below is my absolute favorite, it's not some huge battle, just two Guardsmen, remembering. Some slight Gaunt's Ghosts spoilers.
There was another knock.
“Go away!” Rawne yelled.
Hlaine Larkin limped into the chamber and closed the door behind him.
“Are you deaf?” Rawne growled.
Larkin shook his head. “Just disobedient,” he replied. He came over to the desk and sat down facing Rawne. His prosthetic was clearly rubbing sore, because he winced with every step and sighed as he sat.
“Finish your water,” he said.
Rawne hesitated, and then swallowed the last of the water in the cup.
“Is there a point to you being here?” Rawne asked.
“A point? No. An angel responsible? I’d have to think so. You and me, Eli. There aren’t many of us left now. Fewer with each passing day. Do you remember the Founding Fields, outside Tanith Magna?”
“Yes.”
“Seems so long ago,” Larkin said, pulling a tin cup out of his pocket.
“It was a long time ago, you fething idiot.”
Larkin chuckled. “That row of tents. There was me and Bragg, and you, Feygor, Corbec. All set for a life in the Guard, we were. Young, stupid and full of piss and vinegar. Ready to set the galaxy burning.”
Rawne smiled slightly.
“Ready to set the galaxy burning and follow some off-world fether called Gaunt into the war. Now look at us. Bragg’s gone, long gone, Feygor, dear old Colm, who always seemed like he’d live forever. Feth it, I’m not even here as completely as I’d have liked.”
Rawne’s smile broadened.
“Just that little row of tents,” Larkin went on, pulling something else out of his jacket pocket, “and we’re all that’s left of it. Does that make us lucky, or the unluckiest ones of all?”
“My money’s on the latter,” said Rawne.
Larkin nodded and unstoppered the old bottle he’d produced. He poured a measure into each of the two tin cups.
>>47374112
Bump?
>>47377821
well, i mean, do you think it could work? Is it competitive?
Today was a good day, I had a single Killa Kan with a rockit launcha kill a fully decked out murder Valkyrie in one shot
>6 to hit, 6 to pen, 6 on the table
>mfw
>>47374112
>>47378168
Ditch the dread and Basilisks, replace with 460 points of wall to wall mortar teams. Fuck it, give everyone with a special weapon option a melta gun, ditch the transports and buy 600+ points of mortars. Ditch the rapiers, buy 650 points of mortars.
Even if the entire enemy force in in transports that are invulnerable to mortars your enemy will concede the game and surrender rather than sit through a second turn of of you measuring out and firing a few dozen indirect fire weapons.
Is there an Eisenhorn equivalent for fantasy warhammer?
>>47378408
Well, my opponent's playing Orks and I certainly ain't some sort of WAACfag, so it'd be good to give him a decent chance at least.
>>47378640
Yeah, the Gotrek and Felix books. The ones by William King anyway.
>>47377314
Sorry, didn't take notes or pictures so I can't give a proper play-by-play. From memory:
>Deployment
Iron Hands deploys armor aggressively, tactical squads on top of backfield objectives
D-99 deploys Venators defensively, Taurus scouts forward, everything else stays in reserve
>Turn 1
Iron Hands Land Raider kills the Taurus, Deredeo pens a Venator (crew shaken). Redeemer whiffs.
D-99 Valkyries enter the battlefield. Two Venators and both Valkyries fire at the Deredeo. Two pens (crew stunned, immobilized). The other two Venators fire at the Redeemer. One pen, immobilized.
>Turn 2
Iron Hands vehicles advance, grav centurions disembark. Everything dumps everything into one Valkyrie. One glance (Deredeo is snapfiring).
Vultures enter the battlefield, Valkyries Flat Out off the battlefield. Exterminators drop behind Tactical squads using Grav Chutes. One squad mishaps, deployed in front of the Redeemer. Vultures shit fury into Centurions, kill one. Exterminator squad kills a single Tactical Marine. Venators finish off Deredeo.
>Turn 3
Iron Hands obliterate both Exterminator squads. Redeemer's Autoconnon explodes a Venator. Splitfiring Centurion kills the Venator damaged T1.
One vet squad Deep Strikes onto an objective near the Redeemer. Vultures kill one tac squad and the Techmarine with them.
>>47376491
Fucking good. Only Space Marines can survive the pods anyway
>>47379000
Reinforced combat servitors can't?
Which Start Collecting box has the most useability?
As in, you'll be able to buy multiples of the box, and still be able to use most of the things in it.
>>47379062
What T are the Servitors?
>>47379152
They come with formations, so everything they have is always useable.
>>47379152
Necrons. Everything in the box is good, and the formation makes for decent atmies if spammed and combined with sone lychguard.
>>47378998
I see your games follow FW fluff very closely with drop trooper mortalityI can't wait to do the same
>>47378998
Can't remember clearly how things went from here. The Vultures killed the two remaining Tac squads and the Grav Centurion squad (but not before they exploded a Valkyrie), the Veteran squad and Tarantula each scored a point before getting charged by the Assault Centurions, and the Land Raiders wrecked the remaining Venators.
In the end it was one Tactical Marine, 3 Assault Centurions, the Chaplain, a Techmarine, and both Land Raiders versus two Vultures and a Valkyrie (with one hull point remaining).
>>47379152
The daemons boxes. Heralds are cheap as anything and they only take up 1/4 of a HQ slow in your primar detachment.
Daemons are one of the few codexs that love their troops to bits, can never get enough of them. Plague drones are amazing, the skull cannon is amazing and blood crushers are... Useable.
I'm assuming here you're making the skull cannon and converting the herald to be on foot.
>>47379304
They knew the risks, and they knew their duty. Guardsmen truly are humanity's greatest heroes.
>>47379152
The Imperial Guard box.
It's formations is amazing, and it has everything, guardsmen, a HWT, and a Leman Russ of your choice. The commissar comes off as a bit of a tax, but if you want everything else in the box, it's still good savings.
Who is the best Guard Regiment and why is it the Arkhan Confederates?
>>47379174
5, I think? Don't have a codex handy. I'm referring to Kataphron Breachers.
>>47379502
Literally who? Even Warhawks are more well known
Is there any reason not to buy pic related and use them in place of flesh hounds
>look better
>cheaper
>comes with 10
>>47375795
No way in hell. The only one of those cheap superheavies that is worth its points is that one Inferno Tank one, because s7 AP3 torrent hellstorm, or poison 2+ AP2 torrent hellstorm, ruins practically everything
>>47374735
>Sanguinius - Brad Pitt
>Lion El'Jonson - Young Brad Pitt
>>47374613
Get fucked, wheels.
>>47375795
>>47379824
The only superheavies/GCs worth using are Wraithknights.
>>47379502
What makes them the best? Have they ever actually done anything useful?
>>47379700
>Is there any reason not to buy pic related and use them in place of flesh hounds
There literally isn't, unless you play with assholes.
>>47379700
I wouldn't give a shit. Just paint them red and I'll be cool with it.
>Codex: Chaos Daemons - Daemonic Incursion Edition
What is this and what does it do?
Look at this picture. Pretty good huh? But what's that? Look at it's top right (Our right, his left) shoulder! That text is crap! I couldn't find the original so....
>>47380827
But I was not happy, so contacted a friend....
And I fixed it!
So a friend of mine just bought these metal SW termies, however we don't know what the non-Storm Bolter weapons in their other hands are. Do any of you know?
>>47380861
>>47380827
I forgot to upload cause I had to reconvert it...
>>47380869
Does your camera not have an autofocus or something? Literally nothing in that image is in focus.
>>47381019
Sorry. How about this?
So, after many months of hearing about wraithknights being superfaggots, I finally opened up their unit sheet to see why they are so hated.
How, exactly, are you supposed to kill this thing? You need over 20 lascannon shots dedicated to it. You need 243 sniper rifle shots to kill it at BS4. Even if I brought a bunch of tanks with big S8, AP2 pie plates or Deldar Dark Lances, it would require even more hits than the 20 lascannon shoots due to T8 - not to mention immunity to all basic firearms like bolters.
This one unit is mind boggling. How, exactly, are you supposed to kill it?
>>47381096
ID with a force weapon.
What would other factions 'Chapter Tactics' be? Such as the different Kabals, Hive Fleets, IG regiments, etc etc.
>>47380869
>>47381083
One on the left looks like an old heavy flamer
>>47379988
If your opponent lacks ranged D, that inferno one is great. I proxied one with the much fatter baneblade, it ruined a Nightlords 30k army practically singlehandedly, worked well against Imperial Fists and Ultramines 30k, non-wraithknight (wraithguard and jetbike spam) eldar and cleaned ~680 points of WS bikes off the table before it died. The only time it did poor work was against wraithknights (again, everything is shit compared to them) and when i was using it was against a crisis-spam Farsight list.
>>47381083
>>47381120
One on the right is probably just some targetting thing for the missiles. I think a lot of the oop sw missile terminators had that hand for the missile models.
>>47381112
>ID
>against a GC
son, i have bad newseven with 1d3 wounds, no-one except GK can run that many force weapons easily
![warhammer-40k-painted-blood-angels-terminators-oop-metal-model-passionworks-1412-14-PassionWorks@6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GszF3ut.jpg "warhammer-40k-painted-blood-angels-terminators-oop-metal-model-passionworks-1412-14-PassionWorks@6[1].jpg")
>>47381139
>>47381083
Here's an image of the missile one painted. As you can see it looks like a targeting thingy
>>47381083
They are the targeter arms that used to come with CML Termies, it replaced the PF.
>>47381112
What if I'm not running psykers? For example, a Deldar army. Our best weapon is the Dark Lance/Blaster, and it takes 22 shots of it at our BS4 to mathematically score 6 wounds. And these aren't exactly cheap weapons either; they well exceed a WK's cost without even accounting for the pts of the dudes holding them.
>>47381083
Try focusing on the part you want identified.
>>47381179
Yes, Wraithknights are complete and utter horseshit, welcome to 7th edition Craftworlds dex
>>47381083
LOOK AT THAT FAT FUCKING STORMBOLTER. FUCKING FATTY. LAUGH AT THE FATTY EVERYONE. HAHAHA.
>>47381160
>Playing against Wraithknights
>Not taking multiple Librarius Conclaves
>>47381179
Oh, that's easy. Just take a Wraithknight and some D-scythe Wraithguard as allies
>>47381221
>LOOK AT THAT FAT FUCKING STORMBOLTER
THICK. THICK THICK THICK.
>>47381236
Librarius conclaves are almost as bad as Wraithknights, and the fact that they and grav are the only semi-reliable way to kill the fucking things is a travesty
>>47380767
daemon codex with fenris incursion, be'lakor, and exalted flamers
>>47379332
with a bit of work you can put that herald on a juggernaut to make one of the best units in the book
>>47381243
Oh, of course. Only a fool would try the required 195 required splinter shots for that gargantuan poisoned 6+ damage.
>>47380869
>So a friend of mine just bought these metal SW termies, however we don't know what the non-Storm Bolter weapons in their other hands are. Do any of you know?
Prior to Third Edition, terminators with cyclone missile launchers carried targeters for the missiles in their left hands.
>>47381112
Feels good to rape the Wraithknight spammer at my shop with my Dreadknights' Nemesis Greatswords. :DDD
Do you think the Imperium has NEETs?
>>47381340
probably some royals loafing around otherwise you'd get your ass kicked for heresy or conscripted or murdered
the eldar probably have a path of neet and there is probably some bright sunny place in dark eldar space where you see them doing that for kinks. dammit i want a dark eldar army painted in bright purple for some reason
>>47381179
>it takes 22 shots of it at our BS4 to mathematically score 6 wounds
Why are you trying to kill it in one turn? It can only kill one unit per turn, so you can consistently kill it with 6 or 7 Dark Lances.
>>47381329
Nothing like Muenster to beat Provolone.
>>47381462
>Why are you trying to kill it in one turn?
Because killing one blasterborn squad in a venom makes its points back, while I'm expected to waste 3 turns chipping at it and none of the rest of the targets my anti-tank should be aimed at.
I'm not saying "I need to," but it's a huge annoyance - and massive lose - to not have it dealt with immediately.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but as a gargant creature, since it can shoot at separate targets, can't it charge a separate unit it shot at with a smaller gun and almost-but-not-quite kill it on his turn, making me unable to shoot it at all during my turn before finishing off my unit in my ass phase, then rinse and repeat? Like I said, I've never had to face one before, but I imagine that as its wounds start to trickle down, it'll hide in combat to remain ass-fuckingly persistent and hide from shooting attacks.
Any Imperial saints honored by IG regiments?
>>47381621
>Voluntarily having over 300 points in one place
Really? That's like complaining that melta is overpowered when you take an army of Dreadnoughts.
which Astartes legion would be the best logical pair for a krieg army? I was thinking salamanders. I want a small allied force to match my kriegs fluff-wise but also look good doing it
>>47381680
More like 200 pts, so 66.67% of a WK. To be fair though, blasterborn squads usually make their points back in a round against conventional targets. You pop most vehicles with a volley from the trueborn, while two splinter-cannons from the venom shred a chunk out of an infantry unit.
The reason I referenced it though is that it is currently the best way of running Deldar anti-tank. Scourges are another choiceI like em more, but they are even more fragile, less versatile, and still fairly expensive.
There's not really a way to spread out our heavy weapons without that meaning most of my army is focusing one single unit for several turns and ignoring the rest of army. Against eldar, that's just suicide.
![the_last_man_standing_by_mr_potato-d5jomtz[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZyNEUua.jpg "the_last_man_standing_by_mr_potato-d5jomtz[1].jpg")
>>47381662
There's Saint Sabbat, after whom the Sabbat worlds are named. Martyred with nine wounds, she was miraculously reincarnated during the latter years of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade, and lead the Crusade's second warmaster to its completion.
Then there's Saint Ollanius Pius (sic). His story is older than the Eclessiarchy, so exactly what the details are is shrouded in myth, but what's known for certain is that he was by all standards a completely ordinary man who faced an extraordinary foe in defense of the Emperor himself. It was a hopeless fight, yet he bore the charge with no fear and no hesitation. He was unceremoniously killed for his part, but his name is known all across the Imperium ten thousand years later.
>>47381841
was ollanius the dude who got between horus and the the big E when the emps was loosing?
>>47381841
so a regular guardsmen with a lasgun managed to sneak onto the Emperor's guard which teleported on Horus' daemon ship filled with all kinds of dirty and dark magic, was able to actually survive on said ship enough to get to the bridge right after sangy died to tell horus to fuck himself and attempt to save the emperor? totally legit
>>47377601
>and just last week I spent $200 on starting Dark Eldar.
I'm so sorry, at least they're pretty models
t. DE player
![ollanius_pius_by_andgil-d65swvc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/U7bqQtR.jpg "ollanius_pius_by_andgil-d65swvc[1].jpg")
>>47381885
No one knows for sure. Some versions of the story say it was Horus that Ollanius fought, but as >>47381896 points out, that makes no sense; why would the Emperor bring anything but Space Marines on his boarding party?
And yet the story came from somewhere; legends known across a galaxy don't spring up from nothing. The important thing about Ollanius to remember is that he was by all measure an ordinary man. He is spoken of for nothing in all of Imperial history except his death; he has no great deed of military genius or other glorious act to his name. He simply stood up and died exactly where the Emperor needed him to.
>>47381885
Technically, yes. The original story just said that "he interposed his body." In the Custodes version, the event isn't even explained. In the Imperial Fists Terminator version, that's exactly how it happens (emps is losing, delirious, sees the termy try to save him). In the Black Librarykekversion, it's so far from the point that it isn't even worth mentioning.
>>47381896
Guardsmen weren't a thing at the time of the HH. More likely, Pius would have to be a bodyguard or personal soldier for one of the many nobelmen in the Imperial Palace (in the throne room, even) at the time Emps teleported onto Horus' barge. The Imperial Palace was pretty full at the time, and there were lots of bodyguards. It wouldn't have been a stretch to say some of them volunteered to join the Emperor's counter-attack (with most dying gruesomely in the process) or were accidentally teleported with the others in the throne room, since Emps was pretty distracted at the time.
>>47381896
He wasn't brought there on purpose, that's the point of the tale.
This guy was accidently teleported along with the BigE and chums, and considering a little human isn't going to be worthy of anythings attention during the boarding he could have wealsed his way there.
Then he did his duty and told Horus to go do one
>>47381841
Forgot about Saint Sabbat. I planned on making a regiment who holds a saint in high regards. Their sect of the Imperial cult teaches that their Saint opened their path to heaven and gave them what they consider the greatest gifts of all: knowledge of the Emperor and of scorched earth tactics.
>>47381972
the answer for "why bring rando imp guardsman?" is that you need bodies. basically any available soldier would do. now obviously you'd want SMs. but lets say the dude was part of a special forces detachment, sort of a precursor to the tempustus/storm troopers of later guard history. he'd be, if not a valuable addition, then at least a useful one.
>>47381929
I bought them because of that, too. Was going to go admech, but I've had my fill of Imperium and blocky models.
>>47373972
Where exactly is this rule about Cortez and making the squads troop choices ?
Whats are some good ideas for Daemon allied detachments for chaos space marines?
My army tends to be various ten man squads in rhino's with melta, Belakor, and a couple of Heldrakes or Forgefiends.
What gods or units from Codex daemons would be competitive (no WAAC) or fluffy for a black legion army.
>>47382006
>>47382000
The story was bullshit that was why it was scrapped to a Custodes, Imperial Fist, and back to Olly when they made him an immortal akin to the Emperor. Guys at GW said so.
Do you even understand what tremendous psychic presence and how much corruption was rolling from Horus at the time of the final fight?
Heck, Loken was nearly blown away with Horus's presence. Morty was awed and bent the knee to his brother's brother. Even Abaddon ,who hasn't reached the heights of power Horus did, causes marines to avert their gaze in pain and fear. Humans near Abaddon succumb to horror and madness.
There is no way for a human to step a mile close to Horus without his heart exploding and that is a fact. Don't cheapen the setting with your pathetic need for HFY.
>>47382145
brother's power*
>>47382088
I'm not him, and I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but the Inquisitor's Detachment is HQ + Elites, and your only options in the Codex are HQs or Elites. So, realistically, your elite choices act in the same function as troops in normal codices.
In other news, in the Inquisitor's Elite Choice (Henchmen), it only costs 4 points for an Acolyte, and any Acolyte can take a bolter for 1 point. So, as the other anon was saying, it's only 5 points for a dude with a bolter. You can take oodles of them for cheap (3-12 Acolytes per Henchmen Warband, 3 Henchmen Warbands per Inquisitor).
Cortez was probably mentioned because he's one of the Codex's strongest HQ's and pretty much the face of the book.
>>47382145
holy shit, this post is full of so much wrong
>>47373791
Are there individual point cost for type of weapon used by Imperial Knights? How does their customization work?
>>47382088
I think he was just saying that I was making the Inquisitor sad for not using his minions to the fullest.
However, COTEAZ (NOT CORTEZ GOD DAMMIT) did have a rule that gave his warband scoring abilities. Recently though, this was updated in the FAQ so they get scoring even without him and ObSec with him.
>>47381662
Saint pious
>>47382048
There is no answer because you are bringing a mortal to a fight between "gods". He is less than useless.
The Emperor wouldn't bring him along. Olly would have to come uninvited. Thanks to what we know about him in the HH series, we know he has the tools to do it.
He has the Anathme which he can use to open a rift to the warp with. His perpetual nature will protect him from the Warp as he travels through it. After reaching his destination, he will punch out through the Warp and stand between the Emperor and Horus.
He will deliver the final message to the Emperor and then give up his immorality to die for the sins of humanity and their master.
>>47382145
>When they rewrote the fluff and added all this new stuff, there's no way old things could have happened.
Okay. Also, everything you just said sounds pretty lame. Like Sanic-tier lame. Also, normal humans can look at, stand up against, and fight against Abaddon. Most don't. Most go insane. Most tremble. Most give into fear. But a small, rare few don't. A smaller, rarer few can and do step right up to him and die futilely. Pius was one of those men, before Horus got his "he's so cool everyone around him have their hearts explode in their chest because his evil aura is x9001 strong and the height of power and unstoppable."
>>47382145
>thinking that a single man making a difference in a super dangerous area is impossible
>laughing historians.png
>>47382180
>This is so full of wrong, he doesn't point out anything
Run along, HFYfag.
You disgust me.
>>47382234
>>47382145
maybe ollanius-the-guardsman buying time for emps is just a story passed down from commisars to guardsmen to make them think that their individual lives are actually worth anything
>>47382266
Perfectly fine, since it's 10k years after the event.
But this raging autist who can't accept that in a setting such as 40k Olly P can happen is sad as fuck
>>47382224
There isn't a single human in the galaxy that could have stood in the presence of the vessel which the Chaos Gods poured their combined power into. Sorry but human Olly couldn't.
Olly the immortal last Catholic man in the galaxy can and he will.
And for the record, HFY is more obnoxious than any Sanic fanfiction.
>>47382221
Yep, complete and utterly missing the point. Spot on, Black Library. This is like ninjas fighting on the moon summoning super animal avatars and firing death lasers out of their hands as they fly around. No understanding of what is actually awesome. Just a bunch of stuff that might appeal to 11 year olds.
>>47382088
I am Anon in question, I was using troops as in ground forces, not in reference to game rules. My point was that the Inquisition gets some of the most points efficient shooting in the the game, and that list didn't take advantage of that.
>>47382292
Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.This one man has the biggest balls in the galaxy =/= HFY, btw. At least get your slurs right before you want to demonize something.
>>47382284
It cannot happen which is the reason GW changed it.
Are you saying that GW are autists? Perhaps you are the autist for clinging to something that's impossible.
>>47382234
Within the lines of reason of course.
>>47382309
I am the anon who isn't the anon in question, but not the anon you are replying to.
You did not use the word "troops." You said "infantry."
>>47382315
>impossible
>in a fictional setting
LORD OF WAR: Ollanius Pius - 200 points
WS 4 BS 4 S3 T3 W5 I10 A1 Ld 13
Infantry Independent Character
Wargear:
Hotshot Lasgun
Power Sword
3+ Refractor Field
Special Rules:
ATSKNF
Adamantium Will
Deep Strike
Guardian of the Emperor: If Ollanius Pius is NOT your Warlord, and your warlord takes a death-dealing blow, Pius may make a Look Out, Sir! test no matter where he is on the board that auto-passes. Pius is removed from play and placed in DSR in accordance with Saint of the Guard.
If Pius IS your Warlord and he loses his last wound, then all Leadership tests for every one of your units with the Imperium faction auto-passes for the rest of the game. Ld tests for CSM, Daemons, and KDK auto-fail. Pius is removed as a casualty as normal.
Last Man Standing: If the unit that Ollanius Pius is attached to is completely eliminated, or if he is alone and loses his last wound, he may make a single close combat or shooting attack that auto-hits and auto-wounds.
Saint of the Guard: When Ollanius Pius is hit with an attack that would normally cause Instant Death, his opponent is instead struck down and removed as a casualty. Ollanius Pius is removed from play and then arrives from Deep Strike Reserve the following turn.
>>47382192
Look in their codex. It's probably in there.
>>47382159
>>47382193
Oh right, thanks, if I wanted to make a real IG style mass of infantry , do you think the best use for those extra inquisitors would just be as pskyers ?
>>47382314
I have been enough HFY/Manly tears look at the normal guardsmen standing up for the Emperior while the mutant SMs stood back" bullshit in my many years on this board. You can't tell me otherwise.
>>47382296
They changed it from HFYwankfest to something of pure irony.
The last Catholic man in the galaxy will die for the sins of a jerk atheist saving humanity in the process. The thing that the Emperor sought to stamp out will be his salvation. Beautiful dark irony.
>>47382345
They can be decent psykers, especially Coteaz. Spess Mehreens are probably better with a Lib Conclave though. You can also take 10 point Psykers for each warband for extra denial dice. Note that they're BoP, so only take one per Elites slot.
>>47382315
Actually, the biggest fault here isn't the change. It's the conditions they created that apparently forced the change. Everything about "why it can't happen" is what's wrong here.
>>47382335
GW thought so and they are the guys writing the setting.
And who are YOU to disagree?
>>47382333
So I did. Now I'm confused about how someone could be confused about my post.
Thanks Anon!
>>47382380
>Everything about "why it can't happen" is what's wrong here.
Of course that's why they didn't keep Pius as a normal human and had to change him into a Perpetual who are incredibly resistant to the touch of the Warp.
>>47382387
>argumentum ad verecundiam
>argument from authority
Come on son, you're just showing you can't actaully argue about Olly P
>>47382412
They know the setting more than you and I. If they thought it didn't make sense, you think your opinion matters
>>47382432
>you think your opinion matters
Ironic coming from you but ok
I'm a minor shareholder, so i'm, most likely, much more relevant to GeeDubs than you
>>47382371
One man did something that humanity can't. The implications from the original tale isn't that he did something that superhumans couldn't do - it's that he did what they were doing without being super.
The terminator story explained it best (except the explanation no longer worked with a terminator) - that man's death for purposeless. It was a demonstration of how far Horus had fallen, which finally allowed emps to finally push past his love for his son. Except a killing a furious terminator isn't purposeless - those fuckers can be dead 'ard and dangerous. Not lifethreatening to Horus, but not something to ignore. A normal human works better for it, because a normal human could be ignored. There is nothing a normal human could have done.
The actual event isn't HFY. You could phrase it as so, yes, but that wasn't it's goal. It was an act of depravity. It's just that this one event could be phrased from Pius' perspective, and suddenly, yeah, it's awesome, and it was so awesome people asked for it to come back for years. And now it's back, but it's not awesome anymore. It's silly. Contrived. It uses fluff that most people wish didn't exist (Perpetuals). It completes bypasses every part of what made it awesome in the first place from that shifted perspective (normal man against a god).
So now, not only does it miss the original point (Horus' depravity), it also misses what the fans actually liked about it. You say it's impossible in current lore, and that's true. But the current lore is a choice. Writers chose those circumstances and exploding hearts and powerlevels and evil auras of doom. They chose to make it impossible for normal men, because the new writers thought that is more awesome (to them). Most fans disagree. Some, like you, agree with BL. You like that anime-style awesome. That's fine; Naruto has a huge fanbase for a reason.
The fact that you cannot understand the other perspective, even actively fight it, means you are the autism.
>>47382432
Continued....
Furthermore, GW isn't blinded by HFY. They could have easily kept it and pandered to the HUGE portion of their fanbase that loves that kind of shiz.
But thankfully they chose the high road. They chose integrity, consistency, and bloody logic.
>>47382470
>all those typos
Bah, whatever. Only a petty man would focus on them.
>>47382443
>I'm a minor shareholder, so i'm, most likely, much more relevant to GeeDubs than you
Not unless you are part of the design studio
>>47382345
I would give them specific roles. Psychotropic and rad grenades to boost your melee units, etc.
The nice thing about the ML1 10 point psykers is you can sack them to make D blasts and not worry about the consequences. Funneling a ton of dice through one is safe because you only lost 10 points.
>>47382443
>investing in Geedub now after flop of whfb
Sell sell sell seeeeeeeeelll
>>47382546
No, now is the time for us to Packers this shit. Get a kickstarter going, make a move as a community to buy out a majority of shares and seize control.
>>47382546
>company is at it's low point
>sell sell sell!
Not him, but I'm so happy people like you exist. I'd never make money otherwise.
>>47382491
>hey Dave, some guy on a gook letterboard says OLly P is dumb
lol who cares
>Hey Dave some of our shareholders think the Olly P changes were dumb
Oh...lolwhocares
Still more relevant
>>47382609
So you are saying that the shareholders okay'ed the dropping of WHFB and the launch of AoS? You are worse than Hitler.
Seriously, though, I don't think so
