Fixing Baseball
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So we have a lot of topics on fixing football but I thought I'd come in with some suggestions to make baseball better, taking cues from it's anglo brother, cricket
>get rid of the DH
Not a surprising change, it's a shit rule. Pitchers have to bat, and they can't change the order either.
>each team has to use at least three pitchers, who are all named in the 9 man batting order
By the 8th inning, there has to have been either
>3 pitchers used having pitched 2 innings each
OR
>4 pitchers used total
Ideally a 9-innings game would be 3-3-3, but I'd allow 4-3-2 between three pitchers to favour the better guy. No switching pitchers during an inning. If a guy is throwing trash then he has to keep throwing trash until the 3 outs.
If a pitcher is not currently pitching, they are fielding. The 9 players on the field are the same as the 9 on the team sheet, unless someone is injured.
For additional complexity
>a pitcher cannot pitch two consecutive innings
Encourages teams to be more tactical with who they use and when
This means, on average, you'd have 6 batting specialists and 3 pitching specialists in the starting 9, the batting order would have to consider whether the pitchers are any good at batting and where to put them relative to the stronger batters, and it will force teams to have pitching depth because one guy can't throw the entire game and a shitty third pitcher can lose it for you. It also encourages more all-round skills, a lot of players now have to be competent at batting, pitching and fielding otherwise they risk being a liability.
Also, it gets rid of the fat cunt DHs
Thoughts?
>pls watch my poort big strong americans
fuck off
DH sucks
It's hopeless. Let it die.
>implying pinch runners and pinch hitters, a bigger roster doesn't make the game more interesting
>>69494433
This
It's widely considered one of the best parts of cricket when the bowlers (who are total shit) get forced to bat
Instead baseball removes the sick memes from the sport and replaces it with big fat cunts who can't run or catch
>>69494457
It does slightly no doubt but I don't get the obsession americans have with having a huge squad and having a guy who does one very very specific thing and then sits on the bench for the rest of the season
I think it's more interesting just having 9 players picked and having to deal with the strengths and weaknesses of those 9 alone. Big rosters still come into it because of the 1398214 regular season games
>>69494525
You have the main starting lineup and those have their own strengths and weaknesses, the bigger roster only adds to the arsenal and can make something players very important the the roster. makes dueling much more fun as well as making for more possible outcomes
>>69494354
MULTIBALL
>OMG WHY DONT PITCHERS HIT
Well why dont hitters pitch then?
I pity you daniel. You are literally the biggest contrarian I have ever seen. I can only imagine how insecure you must be
>everyone likes Rugby
>ill watch Test cricket instead
>everyone likes mainstream music
>ill listen to shitty prog rock instead
>everyone like T20 cricket
>ill watch baseball instead
Other than the AL having a DH, the rules are mostly fine. MLB just needs to step into the 21st century and adopt a salary cap, salary floor, and 50/50 revenue sharing among the teams.
>>69494643
because that would force daniel to use a concept from pyjama cricket (bowling/pitching quotas) in his model and he'd rather sudoku than do that
>>69494468
Not all baseball
National League has pitchers batting
Shitty American League has designated hitters
>>69494643
Yeah why don't they? I feel like with 3 pitchers required, at least one of them would be a batter who is reasonably good at pitching, because having three pure pitchers who are all total shit at batting would be a MASSIVE liability
>>69494722
Read the post m8 I did
Baseball is fine. Fuck off bich
>>69494737
Also
>different parts of the same competition have different rules
sickening
>Allowing some kiwi to correct a sport that is not played on his island
fucko ff
>each team has to use at least three pitchers, who are all named in the 9 man batting order
By the 8th inning, there has to have been either
>3 pitchers used having pitched 2 innings each
OR
>4 pitchers used total
Literally the most moronic """improvement""" I've ever read
>>69494354
neck yourself Daniel. You should be practicing your sweep arpeggios.
Baseballs pretty good, has a nice alcoholic vibe, lots of unironic moustaches too.
>>69495413
>You should be practicing your sweep arpeggios
For what purpose? Literally only shitty shredcore wank bands unironically use sweeps
>no DH
>pitching changes only allowed between innings
>only 3 pitchers allowed per game
I like these.
>>69494685
Fuck off commie.
>>69495493
>He doesn't lace his solos with a tasteful sweep here and there
What a faggot
PLEASE WATCH OUR HOME RUN DERBY, PLEASE
> 6 inning games
> 100 game season
That's all folks.
>>69495493
>literally: I can't sweep: The Post.
pathetic tßh, I bet you'll sell out that fictional tour of that fictional country you wrote a song about though.
>>69494354
You can't have pitchers pitch one inning then come back two innings later and resume. That's going to increase the amount of injuries by 1000%.
Also a perfect game is one of the greatest things to witness in all sports and you want to take that away? Stick to cricket m8
>>69495503
>le commie meme
Try forming an actual argument.
>>69494354
The only thing I kind of agree with is getting rid of the DH in the AL. Everything else in your post is retarded, and you should probably consider necking yourself.
>>69495557
You are aware that I don't actually play guitar in the band right?
>>69495520
>solos
>ever
"no thanks"
Who the fuck is Daniel
>kill the second WC
>WS home-field advantage is determined by regular-season record and not the All-Star Game
>>69495649
Everybody's aware of your many deficiencies, including that one. At least RC could belt out a tune, pic related.
>>69495670
This, desu
>>69495670
OP i presume, he must be known in /cric/ or something
>>69494354
>No switching pitchers during an inning. If a guy is throwing trash then he has to keep throwing trash until the 3 outs.
I like this idea and removing the DH, obviously, but the the other ideas are bad.
Forcing 3 pitchers to bat will just make the game less offensive and remove one of baseball's greatest elements: the threat of a huge of comeback at ANY time. Defeating a lineup that has 3 pitchers in it would be piss easy.
>Well, that's why you have to choose a pitcher who is maybe just okay at pitching and batting and not overly specialized in either area. This would keep the comeback factor alive.
No one wants to watch a position player pitch. It's literally like watching a woman pitch, and why it's such comical event when it happens. The magic of the comeback happens when a team unloads on a Kershaw or a closer who hasn't given up a run in 40 games.
And you can't just "make" yourself into a pitcher. There's very few people in baseball (in the world) who can throw 95-100mph with pinpoint control while also having the ability to throw nasty off-speed junk.
Players with second tier arms are usually outfielders, and aside from Aaron Hicks and Puig, most outfielders top out at about 95mph, and this is with putting their entire body behind the throw.
Cricket can get it away with the all-around idea because it's accepted that it's an offensive game, so seeing a shitty bowler(s) get shelled for 5 hours straight is part of the game.
In baseball, the challenge is how is Team A going to beat Team B's starting pitching and bullpen. You remove that dynamic by forcing someone like Ryan Goins or Ichiro to pitch for 2 innings.
>If a pitcher is not currently pitching, they are fielding. The 9 players on the field are the same as the 9 on the team sheet, unless someone is injured.
If you like this, I recommend you watch Little League baseball.
>>69495590
tttt I don't know nearly enough about baseball to honestly know whether what I'm suggesting is truly retarded, but I just feel the fact that a single pitcher can do a whole game doesn't really feel like one team v another, it feels like one guy v 9 guys.
And why would it increase injuries? it happens literally all the time in cricket and there's no injury problem made by that in particular
>>69495721
M8 I literally take all of my custom made album of RC's karaokes to my singing lessons to emulate him, I truly wish I could be as godly as Him one day
>>69495670
He's not here anymore m8 he retired from 4chan
>>69495777
>I don't know nearly enough about baseball to honestly know whether what I'm suggesting is truly retarded
Then why did you make this thread you fat cunt? We don't care about your stupid ideas
Kill yourself, Daniel
>>69494354
-Enforce the time limit between pitches rule
-Limit the number of pickoff attempts per inning
-Abolish divisions
-Cut the number of games per team down to 86: 56 against teams from their own league (2 home, 2 away) and 30 against teams from the other league (1 home, 1 away)
-Eliminate the DH Rule
-Cap the number of pitchers per game to 4
Personally, I'd like to see the playoffs eliminated and go to the old "league champions play each other in the WS" format, but there's no question that the playoffs are good for the league as a whole.
>>69495867
>what is shitposing
Fuck you americunts are easy
>>69495867
BTFO
Daniel will NEVER recover from this
>>69495777
>single pitcher can do a whole game doesn't really feel like one team v another, it feels like one guy v 9 guys.
That's what makes the position so awesome.
Posting in a daniel thread
>>69495895
https://thedarkthird.bandcamp.com/track/erewhon
>She showed the way then disappeared
>Some days I wonder if she was real
>Somewhere in time I'll find her
>But not if I stay here
WDHMBT????
We seriously don't need to change anything about the game to improve it. What needs to change are the players. None of the players have an ounce of personality, just watch any interview. "Uhhh the other team is very good, they were tough, uhhh we got a good group of guys uh uh uh." And if anyone shows some color we penalize them, ie Brian Wilson. We need more Pete Roses, Bill Lees, Dock Ellises. The NFL has them as does the NBA, why the fuck can't we? Our faggot players need to drop this humble bullshit. They're being filmed every day, I can't believe none of them has thought to do something they think is funny or important.
>>69495777
>but I just feel the fact that a single pitcher can do a whole game doesn't really feel like one team v another, it feels like one guy v 9 guys.
Baseball and cricket are individual sports masquerading as team sports (I do find that comment to be a bit reductive, but it does hold some truth).
Cricket has the inverse of a batter being able to basically beat a team by himself.
You should also take the long view here and consider baseball over a season or series length, and in that case, one guy can't beat a team.
>>69495996
>bryce harper
>no one likes him
>>69495692
The single elimination game is fucking retarded. Even the NBA and NHL aren't dumb enough to do something like that. It'll be changed soon enough.
>>69495994
>don't know anything about cricket
>no average Slav with which to stick it
>in within those hallowed halls
>tell all you know about baseball
*Petrucciesque solo*
>>69496040
It'd honestly be easier for him if he didn't look like an autistic caveman.
>>69495996
True
Get rid of the fact cunts and spics with the smug faces
I swear every time I watch baseball I want to punch them all in the face, they look like such almighty faggots
>>69495996
MLB players these days just have zero presence in pop culture, if you asked 50 people on the street to name a baseball player they'd say Jeter
>>69495996
>"Uhhh the other team is very good, they were tough, uhhh we got a good group of guys uh uh uh."
They do this because there is no benefit to pissing off the opponent. Look at the NBA finals. Golden State calls Lebron a bitch and then they get btfo and lose in 7 games
>>69495996
Cespedes has personality, it's a damn shame he can't speak English
>>69496132
Ty Cobb seems to have his head screwed on right.
>>69496132
i watch sports and unironically couldn't name 10 players
>>69496183
>couldn't name 10 players
Like in baseball? Or in all sports?
Reminder that daniel literally couldn't bag a 4/10 who drew pictures of him for fun
>>69496199
baseball
i played baseball video games when i was a kid and knew many, but not anymore
>>69496202
it's a protracted relationship
>>69496132
I don't think I can name any baseball players that are in their prime right now, it feels like the sport just vanished from popular culture sometime around 2010
Fuck off Daniel and I hope your shitty band fails too
>>69495776
>most outfielders top out at about 95mph
I don't think so. Very few can even touch 90.
Anyone got Daniel's autistic spreadsheet about moving test cricket into divisions or something like that
>69496234
underrated
>>69496304
that's wrong though, every other outfielder can hit 90, at least. with a good run up at least
>>69496234
Oops meant to give a (You) >>69496311
>>69496311
better than a spreadsheet, I've got a 3000 word essay on it for you
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/4rmh4f/the_test_cricket_championship_a_better_way_of/
>>69496304
Off a mound maybe. But I think every starting right fielder can hit 90+ on a hop. There are guys that have been clocked at 100 as well.
Rafael Furcal threw like 99 mph from shortstop back in the day. I bet Machado hits 95.
>>69496344
Yes that's what I was looking for, thanks
>>69496339
>>69496347
Yes but can they throw consistently at that speed ?
>>69496344
Is Daniel a legend in cricket circles?
>>69496384
>cricket circles
they're called ovals you ignorant oaf. And yes, very much so.
>>69496347
The guy said "most" can throw that hard. "Most" can not. Not every fielder is throwing smoke. If a guy can hit 85, that's a pretty good arm.
>>69496344
>I was kinda planning on doing it as a proper report report with stakeholder analysis and a full exec summary and tons of diagrams
Requesting this, hurry the fuck up daniel
>all these tryhard americans trying to mock this Daniel guy like the big strong australians do
>>69496923
>he doesn't check Daniel's Facebook page at LEAST twice daily
lmaoing @ ur life
>>69495996
Sean Avery tried this in the nhl. He wanted to be the villain, he was forced out of the league and to take sensitivity training to be reinstated .
>>69494354
You had me at get rid of the DH but then went totally off the rails
Make it 5 innings and roid everybody up
>>69497236
This
Based THG
yeah, it's pretty stupid for the AL to have a DH. NL should have it too.
fuck all of you dinosaurs who think having better offense and a DH goes against the """""tradition""""" of the game. I bet you're against video review of blown calls too.
i wish a girl liked me enough to draw pictures of me
i like baseball
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>>69496132
I think it's some weird phase we're in right now where hip hop urban nigger culture is so difficult to separate from pop culture that anything remotely distant from that culture, like baseball, becomes not cool or relevant to non-fans
It's not at all like that in Japan of course, but here it is.
The sport is still great though, I love it.
>>69494685
Are you a fucking retard? MLB has the most parity of all American sports leagues. Only two franchises have never made it to the World Series -- Seattle and Montreal/Washington. Only eight have never won a World Series.
That's way better than the NFL, NBA, and NHL.
13 NFL teams have never won a Super Bowl, and 4 have never been to a Super Bowl.
12 NBA teams have never won the Finals, and 7 have never been to the Finals.
11 NHL teams have never won a Stanley Cup, and 5 have never been to the Finals.
