What did he mean by this?
SIUUUUU
Daily reminder that Western civilisation literally is French civilisation.
>>69482411
this
well, he's not totally wrong but i hope he ll keep gettî attacked by butterflies
>>69482411
'no'
>>69482490
>Brazil
I doubt you have a notion of what Western civilisation is, seeing as you live in a tropical dystopian shithole.
>>69482411
>all the bad aspects of Western Civilisation are French civilisation
ftfy
>>69482411
nice shitpost. if you praise a judoemasonic '"revolution'" as anything as the foundation of western civilization you're a gullible goy.
also, western civilization is what?
>tfw your favorite artists are all french
>>69482507
My banana republic will at least exist past 2100.
Enjoy your dams breaking, Mohammed.
>>69482411
Same could be said about any european culture..
>muh greece democracy
>muh italian deus vult
>muh german "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity."
>muh austrian fighting off the turks
Nah bro, it's more than just them.
>>69482554
>muh English sausage
>>69482508
>>69482510
>Italy
I know, it's painful to see your country go through a decline that started 1500 years ago, but have hope.
>>69482531
>exist past 2100
We both know this is a lie.
>dams breaking
We have less floods than England, than Germany, than pretty much any other country in the world. Our civil engineers are the best in the world and we have too much of them. Not worried in the slightest bit.
>>69482554
The last two examples are awful. Nobody in their right mind would say that. The first two are semi-true but still nowhere near France.
>>69482554
>muh italian deus vult
I agree with the other ones, but "Deus Vult" has nothing to do with the italians
>>69482628
why do the dutch suck french cock so much? Is it muslim solidarity?
>>69482679
They are the enlightened ones
>>69482679
No, otherwise I'd prefer the Emirate of Sicily or Al-Andalus, but I don't. Italy is a fucking awful shithole. Can't take it seriously.
>>69482732
The only things the Netherlands has going are cheese and free weed.
You also did an awful job in trying to colonize us.
>>69482628
>The last two examples are awful. Nobody in their right mind would say that.
What?
If the "Battle of Vienna" would have been lost, we would all be turks by now.
Polish, German, and Austrian forces saved europe (as we know it), you ungreateful little trailer guy.
>If the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna
>>69482628
Yeah because Nietzsche and Kant didn't have influenced the Western civilization and their perception of the world at all. Fuck the history of ideas and the secularization of society.
>>69482710
enlightened by bbc
>>69482732
You speak exactly like a muslim shitskin. How are you guys so easy to spot? Seriously, try to hide yourself better, it's pretty embarassing.
>>69482322
Still, they're at least top 5 in everything.
>>69482776
We decided that our Asian colonies were more important and lucrative than our South-American ones.
Result: Netherlands is one of the richest countries on earth and Poortugal is the poorest country in Western Europe and now even poorer than some Eastern European countries which were under the communist yoke 25 years ago
>>69482805
I still believe we had the best painters, thinkers and novelists, but hey that's just me.
>>69482322
We are supreme in handball tho
>>69482790
>we would all be turks by now
Literally off yourself. The Turks were incredibly overextended anyway, first of all. Even if they took Vienna, they would have held it for a few decades at most before losing it. It would not have affected the West at all. Secondly, that has nothing to do with Austria, it was a combined effort and Poles played a bigger part than Austrians in the second siege.
The only time the West was truly at danger of being Islamised was when the Umayyads reached Central France and were beaten back. Thank you France ;)
>>69482801
Your country is a shithole. Namecalling doesn't change that.
>>69482586
>muh english industrialisation and modernisation of the entire globe through the greatest empire man has ever seen*
>>69482322
Top 3 soccer players in the world:
1) Ronaldo
2) Injured Ronaldo
3) Messi
>>69482912
>justifying the t*rks
>doesn't deny he is a muslim shitskin
You have to go back, mehmet.
>>69482816
yet dutch/belgian people are all completely miserable living in a giant concrete cities or in ugly boring flat moors under eternally grey weather
I've been to portugal/spain/south france and although people are poorer they are much more happy and humane
you're a typcial westerner valuing money over everything
>>69482846
I can mostly agree with that even during the first half of the 20th century you can't deny the significance of french intellectuals and artist. But not so much now. What happened dude?
>>69482909
>prison wally-ball
>sport
>>69482846
no you don't. germany beats you on all counts
>>69482950
Can you read? What did I justify? I'm claiming the Turks weren't a threat for the West. They were overextended. This is simply a fact. Had they captured Vienna, it would have been lost within mere decades. They lost Hungary in its entirety in less than 150 years and that's further to the East with less threats from the West. Do the math you Shitalian ape.
>>69482953
You have to go back.
>>69482956
Litterally almost every great artists collaborated during WW2, so after the war we encouraged social studies and shitty writers whose philosophy were based on nothing (Sartre, Deleuze, ...)
>>69482912
Based horizontal bleu blanc rouge.
>>69482628
you might just be legally retarded, try and get neetbux mate
>>69483016
>. This is simply a fact.
A fact my ass. Clearly the turks didn't believe they were overextended otherwise they wouldn't have prepared so much to invade Europe. They became overextended only after their whole army got BTFO. You have to go back, Mehmet.
>>69482930
Punished Ronaldo will take the 3rd spot
>>69482411
lol you mean USA
>>69483072
>Clearly the turks didn't believe they were overextended otherwise they wouldn't have prepared so much to invade Europe
Holy fuck. You actually are mentally retarded. I feel bad. I hope you can get some assistance in your shithole of a country.
>>69483016
lmao truth hurts cheesehead
ironically you're the best example of what I described: angrily trying to prove your """"point"""" on an anonymous imageboard.
& I will leave you short-sighted cuck, you can choke in your money with the rest of """"civilized"""" miserable dutch/belgian fucks
>>69482998
Germany didnt have any thinkers or novelists of note, they only had philosophers who wanted to structure every concept they created. And for the painters, I can see why some people prefer the dutch or the italian, but the germans?
>>69483111
>chimping out
yep. Clearly a follower of mohammed (pork be upon him). You have to go back Mehmet
>>69482998
They have no god tier writer.
>>69482953
>Portugal
>Happy
>>69482912
>army of 150.000 turks
>a 300-year holy war from the turks
>turks having a huge empire
>not important
>>69483121
You have to go back.
>>69483122
Goethe and Schiller didn't exist.
>>69482322
Coming from an English lad this is some twisted irony.
>>69482411
French civilization is a watered down rip off of Italian and German civilization, from which all of western civilization is descended from some degree of one or the other or both.
>>69483232
>Italian civilization
Have you been to Italy? They have no civilisation. It's a mafia-state.
>>69483173
We have more writer/poete of this tier than all the europe united. pls...
>>69483153
kant, nietzsche, heidegger, schopenhauer, the list goes on :^) they all compete with de creme de la creme of french thinkers
>>69483122
voyage is prob my fav novel as well
but thomas mann and goethe alone are at least as intersting as celine and certainly any other existentialist wirter
I love flaubert though, that man can write beautifully
>>69483166
repeating yourself like an autist isn't going to change reality my friend. your mom should've taught you that
>>69483260
Yes, and it has more World Heritage Sites than any country in the world. There is probably not a place on earth with more culture and a greater impact on civilization than Italy.
>>69483296
You have to go back.
>>69483122
kek this pleb. your meme "culture" is pure dogshit compared to ours.
>>69483314
autist
>>69482411
Nice way of saying "catholic church" but ok. Sure, Charlemagne (Belgian) was entitled as Roman Emperor, but France's cultural heritage of that time is just the hoarding of Roman heritage into "safe" France by the Catholic church. Native culture was as anything else present in germanic kingdoms at the time.
External cultural influences in Portugal came mostly from from Spain (from founding untill the end of the Union), France (from the Union until Napoleon) and UK (From Napoleon until the end of the monarchy) and then France again (what little made it here through Spain's and Portugal's dictatorships to the beautiful modern world of AMERICA FUCK YEAH.
>>69482322
CR7 enlightening us all
>>69482411
That explains why the western society is being cucked by terrorists, sjws and feminists.
>>69483358
You have to go back, man.
>>69483303
..starting with the fact, that the italians made the distinction between "france and germany" in the first place.
Thank you, based Caesar, otherwise we would have lost against Portugal in our country..
:^)
>>69483290
But not a single one of Dante or Petrarca tier
>>69483260
>watered down rip off of Italian and German civilization
Not ok with you on that , Italy have a great culture.
Italy and germoany are two pillar of the European culture. France is the King who reign amongst them.
>>69482411
>western civilization
I think you meant to say American civilization.
>>69483290
You have a lot of scam artists
>>69483427
kek
KEK
>>69483296
>Kant
Philosopher
>Heidegger
Philosopher
>Schopenhauer
Philosopher
Sure Nietzche is a great thinker, but compare him to Voltaire, Diderot, Rousseau, Montaigne, Montesquieu, ...
>>69483442
>American
>civilization
>>69483477
Don't talk shit about Dante little man
>who's Godard?
>who's Aznavour?
>who's Piaf?
>who's Eiffel?
>who's Gainsbourg?
why r u insisting in this shit meme faggot
>>69483477
lol
>>69483502
Make sure you dont burn your döner, mehmet.
>>69483509
>who's Aznavour?
>who's Piaf?
>who's Eiffel?
>who's Gainsbourg?
Non-French.
>>69483528
Eat up your grits, Tyrone.
>>69483430
>that delusion of grandeur
Dude, when Italian was a culture with floating water toilets and philosophers, germany and france were still run by tribes..
>>69483502
Enjoy being bombed
Why are people so concerned about the past? Has anyone looked at France's future?
>>69483427
There is 3 god tier writer : Shakespear, Dostoeivski and Celine. So one french.
Moliere, Flaubert, Hugo and many of other one are equal to Dante. Petrarque is below.
>>69482322
>painters
Who are the spainards?
>novelists
Who are the Russians? Inb4 Madame bovary lmao
>>69483577
You yanks and your 'friendly' fire.
>>69483296
>>69483485
As for the writer, sure they are some interesting germans but once again, Germany is the country of philosophers, not novelists. France had Celine, Proust, Verne, Zola, Stendhal, Balzac, Flaubert, ...
>>69483590
lol, Shakespeare literally copied from Petrarca (the father of humanism), he's nowhere near him
There is only one God tier and that's Dante Alighieri. Period.
>>69483574
France was not run by tribes because france dont exist back then. And Rome is not Italia.
>>69483485
dude, you wanna go there?
germany
(musicians)
>bach
>beethoven
>wagner
>brahms
>handel
>strauss
>mendelsshon
>schumann
>webber
(phylosophers)
>hegel
>nietzsche
>marx
>shopenhauer
>heidegger
>engels
>leibniz
>fichte
(writers and poets)
>goethe
>schiller
>hesse
germany has one of the depest cultures when it comes to humanities and art, especially with music. without bach and beethoven i'd wager all music after would be completely diferent. there's a reason why bach is coined has (the father of music)
>>69483750
That's why i said thinkers and novelists, not philosophers and musicians.
>>69483750
>music
the world without music would not change one bit. musicians are an extra.
>>69483485
"A Ranking of the Most Influential Novelists, Playwrights, and Poets of All Time"
>http://www.adherents.com/people/100_literary.html
1 William Shakespeare (Eng)
2 Dante Alighieri (Ita)
3 Homer (Gre)
4 Leo Tolstoy (Rus)
5 Geoffrey Chaucer (Eng)
6 Charles Dickens (Eng)
7 James Joyce (Ire)
8 John Milton (Eng)
9 Virgil (Ita)
10 Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (Ger)
11 Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra (Spa)
12 Murasaki Shikibu (Jap)
13 Sophocles (Gre)
14 William Faulkner (US)
15 Feodor Dostoevsky (Rus)
16 T. S. Eliot (US)
17 Marcel Proust (Fra)
Wow, the frenshmen are the only important "western culture"..
>>69483775
>the world without music would not change one bit
who cares about civilization when your gf would fuck any hung bbc in a minute if she had option to do so.
>>69483797
>I rate Milton
>>69483775
same could be said about netherlands. you're a glorified city. and claiming music is an extra when it's a multi million dollar business and one ofthe greatest forms of art is just retarded.
>>69483774
firstly, thinkers and philosophers are the same thing. secondly, most philosophers set their phylosophy to book via novel or other story forms. most phylosophy books are stories and novels.
IE>Thus Spoke Zarathrusta
>>69483797
>Chaucer
>no mention of Boccaccio
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69483797
1- I never said that French was the only important "western culture", i just said that we had the best thinkers and novelists.
2- It's about their works not the influence it had on the the world
>>69483797
>all this disgusting anglocentrism
>>69483797
>tolstoy before dostoyevsky
>dante before homer
>no luis de camoes
>chaucer in 5h
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69483797
>Shakespeare is first
>>69483812
>>69483826
It's not my list, but if you want to know his reasons, buy his book:
>https://www.amazon.com/Literary-100-Influential-Novelists-Playwrights/dp/0816062684
BTW Boccaccio is also on his list
>>69483820
>you're a glorified city
You're an unglorified village. Portugal has shit literature, shit music, shit thinkers, shit scientists, just shit everything.
You have 2 Nobel prizes (peace doesn't count obviously as it's a farce), one of which is literature (also a farce, less so than peace).
We have 18, most of which are in the hard sciences. subhuman poortuguese ape
>>69483878
>Most Influential
I don't see the problem.
>>69483852
someone who says france has the best novelists has never read good novels by other countries.
maybe i'm biassed, but no french novelist i've read (which are a lot, from boverie to camus, etc...) even comes close (both in craftsmanship, storytelling and phylosophical ideas) to other great writers like dosoyevsky, tolstoi, steinback, elliot, hemmingway, orwell, etc....
not to say french novels are bad, but art is subjective and french art is not the best. by far
>>69483852
So you are totally objective, eh?
>>69483861
What?
There are more non-anglo writers than anglo-writers:
Italy 2 times, Greece 2 times, Russia 2 times, Germany, Japan, France, Spain..
>>69483878
Of course he is first.
Who else could it be?
>>69483909
>this mad
>luis de camoes
>fernando pessoa
>jose saramago (which i don't personally like, but he must do something right)
>cesário verde
>eca de queiros
>almeida de garret
>etc...
also, we are on the vanguard of cancer research and have the best cancer research center IN THE WORLD
tell me one good writer from the netherlands. i've spent my life reading, and can't remember a single one.
we weren't discussing science. don't shift the goal post
>>69483909
literature isn't a farce you stupid uncultured cuck, and this is coming from someone who studies pure math. you're probably a pleb engineering student
>>69483797
>eliot
>no hemmingway
u fk0n wOt m8
>>69484059
>best cancer institute
Thats in Houston, João.
>>69484059
0 in the hard sciences kek
>>69484061
the prize is a farce you stupid belgian piece of shit
>pleb engineering student
physics and math actually
>/sp/ - Literature
>>69484137
quite funny tho since its common knowledge that people who likes sport are people with lower IQ
>>69484115
there's no physics and math major, so either specify or fuck off
and no one was discussin sciences dumb kraut.
>>69484092
Damn, I already gave you the link:
>http://www.adherents.com/people/100_literary.html
Hemmingway is among the top 50.
Of course we can always debate wether some author should be shifted up or down 10 places.
And it's always a matter of personal choice, for example I think Tolkiien should have his place among this list.
But my point was that therre are many important writers and novelists and it's totally ridiculous to claim "we represent the european culture"..
>>69482790
>Polish, German, and Austrian forces saved europe (as we know it), you ungreateful little trailer guy.
>t. Mehmet Turkoglu
>>69484149
Everyone on the Internet has a Ph.D. from Harvard, didn't you know?
>>69484149
that's a dangerous assumption friend. and very wrong indeed.
tolstoi was really into benching weights for example. i think he created one of the first russian gyms
pessoa invented the matraquilhos (the miniature football game)
the greek phylosophers go at lenght about the greatness of exercise.
einstein himself liked exercise and sports (and played he tuba, for some reason.)
>>69482915
lmao, it thinks it's people
>>69482411
wat
Open eens een geschiedenis boek undercover stokbrood
>>69483485
>Voltaire, Diderot, Rousseau, Montaigne, Montesquieu
M8 none of those come close to people like Kant,Hegel,Stirner or Marx.
>>69484158
tolkien was pretty GOAT though. even iff i'm not a great fan of his style, i can admire him creating a language and setting up such a well crafted universe.
i'd place tolkien up there too. maybe instead of chaucer, but a couple places down
>>69484153
It's called a double major you pleb
>>69484263
Mehmet pls
>>69482915
>industrialisation and modernisation
So cancer who ruined this world? As expected from the English. Always trying to exterminate the human species throughout the ages.
>>69483797
>Shakespeare
>1
>this salty as fuck dutch faggot
Lmao
>>69484320
I'll take your astonishment as a compliment. Even though it's not hard to impress a dumb yank.
>>69484335
>industrialisation and modernisation
>So cancer who ruined this world?
>>69484335
huxley pls go
>not wanting pneumatic women delivered right to your doorstep
>>69484335
>trying to exterminate the human species
And don't forget all the wars with france, too..
>>69483160
what is DDD?
>>69483160
kek
>>69484388
Daily Drug Dose I think
>>69483797
>no Poe
>>69484942
It's nr. 55, just look up the link
>>69485105
bad ranking then tbqh
>>69482411
>t. Nederland
Absoluut verafschuwend
>>69485978
>verafschuwend
>Walloon trying to speak Dutch
kek non-country
>>69482322
They're well known for everything but not the best at any of them?
idk why he had to say it like a fag tho
>>69484388
Daily Dingus Dicks
France is probably no.1 in culinary arts.
>>69486344
That's not how you spell Italy.
lmao how the fuck would Cristiano Ronaldo know anything about the arts? For that matter, when was the last time Portugal produced anything of note besides soccer players and self-aggrandizement?
>>69486637
Italy has the best cheap food, France has the best elaborate food.
btw France also has the best letterature, the best looking city (Paris), the best cheese, the best bread, the best wine
>>69486683
You may be right actually. Cheers.
>>69482411
what a waste of dubs kys
