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Why did he take off Payet when he was clearly growing into the game and had already created France's best chance?

Why did he once again snub Martial in favour of Gignac who had shown all tournament to be off the pace and unreliable?

Why did he refuse to take off Sissiko in the second half for Martial when it became apparent he wasn't having the same effect on the game anymore?

Why did he wait until the last ten minutes of extra time when Portugal were already ahead to make his final substitution?
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>he bought into the Sissoko meme

Technically inferior than most of their midfielders, only got praised because >muh heart
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>>69478916
Payet was getting tired because France percussive game was more tiring than portugal defensive approach.
Also gignac is better at scoring even if he suck at recupering ball.

Tbh Portugal had an advantage once the reglementary time was over because they were still fresh because they spent their time defending.
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should've put on kante and gave pogba more freedom, sissoko and matuidi are a mistake

also >jiroo and >gignac are hacks, should've played martial earlier
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>>69479004
Payet was still the player that gave you the best chance of breaking through the tight spaces in the Portugal defence. Playing with battering rams like Gignac and Sissoko made no sense. If Coman had come on for Sissoko instead of Payet, you'd probably have won.
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>>69478916
I can't believe anyone in their right mind would sub in someone who plays in Mexico during a fucking final.
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Am I the only one who doesnt seem to think Gignac as garbage ? He didn't score but c'mon u throw a player at 70 minute and expect him to score ? If you trully believed in him you would have him as a starter.

His solo effort was magneficent.
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>>69479177
dont think anyone is holding it to him personally, we all knew his level and deschamps should've made a better call as the manager
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>>69478916
Deschamps is a fucking tactical moron. How would anyone start with Adel fucking Rami in a Euro official match?

>Still playing Sagna and Evra even though they both should of retired 5 years ago

Sagna was literally too lazy/scared to block Eder's shot.

>Takes off Payet as soon as he starts making chances
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>>69478916
IMO Giroud should've stayed on too.
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>>69478916
he was afraid Pajeet would try to kill someone else.
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>>69478916
>Why did he take off Payet when he was clearly growing into the game and had already created France's best chance?
Payet is fat and can't last this many games in such a short period
>Why did he once again snub Martial in favour of Gignac who had shown all tournament to be off the pace and unreliable?
He bought into lvg's Martial is a winger meme
>Why did he refuse to take off Sissiko in the second half for Martial when it became apparent he wasn't having the same effect on the game anymore?
Because he could create something out of nothing in the first half, hard to separate completely
>Why did he wait until the last ten minutes of extra time when Portugal were already ahead to make his final substitution?
because portugal didn't look like shooting, he was waiting for 120 to put on zaza
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>>69478916

He got you to the final with only wins, Top goalscorer was yours, You didn't fail this tournament your team worked 110% if other teams like Italy or Germany worked 100%.

Best team by far, but when 90 minutes(120 in particular) have to decide which team wins a trophy or which teams comes 2nd it can go both ways.

Good manager. Good picks (maybe should have to somehow fit Lacazzette and Ben Arfa in it) Missed a 2nd proper centerback like Varane, had to play unexperiecned umtiti and a mediocre at best Rami instead.

If one team was working in the whole World Cup, without flaws, dominating all games (even yesterday's match) it was France.

How many times have u guys seen your team being the best one but not winning. You re just looking somewhere to throw the blame because u didnt lose a simple match, but a final.
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>>69478916
clearly this brit from spee is a manager mastermind who can do no mistakes

why aren't you manager for a team?
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>>69479177

Gignac was alright yesterday. Payet wasn't really up to much so I'm surprised that people are surprised about him going off.
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>>69479177
He had shown himself to be consistently shit all tournament. I understand Deschamps wanted to preserve team shape with Gignac always replacing Giroud, but in situations where France were already 5-1 up agains Iceland, it made no sense to bring on an older player that plays in Mexico ahead of a much more talented, younger Martial. With how Portugal set up, Martial would have made far more sense than Sissoko or Gignac.
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taking off Payet for Coman was a pretty good decision
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>>69478916
>Why did he once again snub Martial in favour of Gignac who had shown all tournament to be off the pace and unreliable?

Gignac always fights like mad and he literally produced France's best chance in the final
Also it seems like you fell for the pacey nigger meme m8,
Martial is overrated shit, didn't do shit the whole tournament and was easily the worst player on the pitch when he came on last night
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>>69479177
most of the french posters are massive PSG faggots and gignac played for marseille for 5 years so that explains it
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>>69478916
I still think he's a really good manager.
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>>69479351
France only beat one good team in the entire tournament, and that was a win gifted to them by Germany who looked like they were going to win comfortably.

The retarded format allowed both France and Portugal to reach the final without having to face consistently good teams at each round. Whereas a side like Italy had to play Belgium, Spain and Germany just to have a chance of making the semi finals.
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Took him off to stop pepe breaking his legs
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>>69479408
You don't have to be a mastermind to know that Martial > Gignac and that it's probably advantageous to make your last substitution before the last 5 minutes of extra time.
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>>69478916
>Why did he once again snub Martial in favour of Gignac who had shown all tournament to be off the pace and unreliable?
Desperation move
If it works you're a genius
If it doesn't you're a moron
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>>69478916
>>69479102
>>69479104
>>69479177
Reminder that Gignac can beat Neuer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l05oQiNWuIs
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>>69478916
I like Deschamps but he seems a bit stuck in his habits when it comes to substitutions. Gignac did fuck all at this tournament, but he kept putting him in at the 60 minute mark.

>>69479004
Their best players had played 120 minutes more than France's best players.
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>>69478916
It was the moths, man.
The moths were whispering all kinds of things into his ear.

They wanted all the lampposts in France to go dark.
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>>69479700
He had his chance to call in the eagles, apparently donaldo took it
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>>69479647
>Croatia and Wales weren't good
Nice meme
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>>69479845
>>69479525
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>>69479845
Wales are shit. They were beaten by England. They beat fucking Northern Ireland to reach the quarter finals. That's how shit this tournament was.
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greezeman out gignac in
payet was garbage, coman was better
start playing for headers
penulty or lucky bounces always happen
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The real question is why Giroud started every game?
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>>69479891
nigga you lost to the part time dentist
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>>69478916
did you even watch the match??
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>>69478916
>Why did he wait until the last ten minutes of extra time when Portugal were already ahead to make his final substitution?

That was not that clever, yea. Maybe he wanted to still have an option if someone gets injured.
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>>69478916
>Why did he wait until the last ten minutes of extra time when Portugal were already ahead to make his final substitution?

The commentators mentioned it looked like Cabaye was warming up most vigorously.
Cabaye is one of France's main penalty takers. Deschamps was trying to unnerve the Portugal penalty takers goalkeeper like LVG did by subbing on a goalkeeper for pens vs costa rica
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>>69479928
I'm Scottish.
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>>69479446
>didn't do shit the whole tournament

He had about 20 minutes collectively
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>>69479984
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
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>>69479917
Maybe because he's involved in 6 of our goals.
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>>69479562
if you really think that France lost because of this substitution I think you are greatly mistaken.

France doesn't have a real playmaker able to take offensive responsibility when push comes to shove. Payet was locked on his left wing, Pogba was locked in this deep CDM position, Matuidi has nearly no technical skill and is a box to box midfielder anyway. This is how France ended up with Sissoko as a midfielder btw.
With a real playmaker you wouldn't have seen Sissoko doing so many solo runs yesterday. Hell you wouldn't have seen Sissoko at all if only there was one true playmaker in this French squad.

France had no real architect in it's midfield in this tournament and against a low defensive block it's really missing.
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It felt like there was zero brains in this France team - no sense of calm, especially in the middle of the team.
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>>69479997
>"Involved in"

How many did he score m8? He is a joke of a player. Literally the French Fellaini who is even worse at scoring headers.
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Martial is clearly shit, most overated player in europe. I hope that Lacazette ill replace him soon
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>>69480053
Cabaye? May not be world class but surely team balance trumps individual ability?
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>>69480053
He's just trolling. Both subs made sense and were the right decisions
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I'd say Pogba, but that implies leaving Matuidi on the bench.
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>>69480142
meant to reply to
>>69480079
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>>69479997

5 of which were against meme of the tournament iceland
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>>69480078
Martial managed to score 17 goals in his debut season (without a preseason) playing as a winger for fucking LVG in the most conservative team in the Premiership last season.
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Why did deschmeme play giroud at all when hes complete shit?
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>>69480222
Because he decided to gamble on his own country's tournament by leaving out Benzema because of a scandal involving Valbuena... who also wasn't included in the squad.

Kevin Gameiro, a guy who scored 30 goals last season with Sevilla, was also left out for some reason, with Deschamps favouring a guy that plays in Mexico.
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>>69478916
Payet is great but...
France sucked vs Germany with Payet and got way better with Kante subbed in for Payet
Same with Coman replacing Payet, Coman was way better
Good moves by Didier (who looks like a total moron)
Payet is still great, just wasn't in good form the last two games. Now Sissoko, he's been a total monster
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>>69478916
Gignac was sucking, Martial is exponential better. The question is why didn't he have Martial/Coman starting?
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>>69478916
Look at flag. Greatest soccer failures in history. His opinions are absolutely retarded. Do we Americans need to come over to England and teach you blokes? Because you've been sucking bad
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>>69480205
Oh look, a retarded Brit who still thinks whatever happens in your irrelevant shit league has any bearing on anything whatsoever.

>m-muh EPL results
>he must be great right

You lost to fucking Iceland. Nobody in England knows shit about football. You rate players who would be bench warmers in Spain and Germany.
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>>69480288
Sissoko was shit yesterday after the first half. He's the kind of player that Pepe and the rest of the Portugal defence would be happy to see playing in front of them.

Deschamps should have gone for full technical ability in the second half.

________Martial
Payet__Griezmann__Coman
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>>69480364
You realise that 2 of France's attackers play in the PL? The Premiership hasn't been great for a while but it's standards are still greater than the Mexican league.
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>>69480395
>go full technical ability when opponent is defending tight and good

Yeah that worked well for Spain against Italy
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>>69480419
Benzema is the only good striker France have. Greaseman is a choker, see CL final.
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>>69480364
How many bundesliga players were on the pitch last night? None? You really shouldn't compare yourselves to Spain, you have one CL in 15 years and your second best team got knocked out by Liverpool
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>>69480474
What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Butthurt much?
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>>69480063
3, which makes him the 2nd best scorer of the Euro. And his assists were legit af.
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>>69480502
It means your league is shit outside Bayern. Kalou and Chicharito look like world beaters there.
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>>69480194
Yeah, I mean everyone scored 5 goals on Iceland, amirite?

>>69480222
Because he's better than Gignac and Martial.
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>>69480530
No, it doesn't mean that at all. Nice ad hominem though.

EPL is fucking garbage.
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>>69480605

Muh buyernwinslol
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>>69480696
>buyern jokes by the league owned by Russian billionaires and oil sheikhs

Jesus that delusion.
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>>69480707
Where's the delusion?

It's irrelevant as to who owns what. Your league is 3rd rate. Get over it and move on ammicably
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>>69479700
This.
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>>69479700
Underrated probst
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>>69480395
Martial isn't a 9, that's precisely how we ended up with Giroud and Gignac who both are real 9.
Full technical attacking side should have looked like this instead:

________Lacazette
Martial__Griezmann__Coman

Deschamps made his choice of players, it did not include Lacazette, Ben Arfa nor Gameiro. Instead we had Cabaye, Digne, Schnederlin and Gignac on the bench.
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>>69481103
>Gignac
Fucking OM bias.
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gig nac

gigabyte

nacdonalds
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>>69480194
+1 against Germany since without him attracting two defenders to himself Griezmann wouldn't have been able to score.
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>>69481172
Nevermind I misread the post.
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>>69479177
>c'mon u throw a player at 70 minute and expect him to score ?
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>>69479891
can soccerfags tell me, does anyone reasonably believe Portugal is the best team in Europe? or even France had they won?

does either team beat spain or italy in 2 legs?
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>>69481574
We could win against this weakened Spain probably, against Italy it would be penalties. We would get BTFO by Germany like always
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>>69481574
Germany is still quite clearly the best. They came into the tournament with some significant injuries. The only reason they lost to France was because Schweinsteiger went full retard.
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>>69481612
Except not always:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNR5toJQnV0
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>>69478916
When you're facing a defensive team and start with just one striker, you're bound to fuck up.

If France were play 2 up front they would've scored 2+ goals in the first 20 minutes, where Portugal were nervous as fuck, making one bad mistake after another.

Terrible tactics for a final against a much weaker team.
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>>69481313
this post best post
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>>69481869
the only reason they beat italy is because marchisio, verratti and de rossi were out
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>>69481869
Every team had their injured.
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>>69485282
thx m8
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>>69481574
Theoretically, it's something like:

Germany > Spain > France > Italy > Portugal > everyone else
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>>69485611
Maybe we could say France = Italy, to be fair.

Pellè is a literal Giroud, Zaza isn't worse than Gignac, etc.
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>>69478916
Portugal strategy was to exhaust the 3 best French players (Payet Griezmann and Giroud scored 12 goals in 6 matches) with a strong defense/midfield and then transform the team with an athletic striker (Eder)
It worked, Santos outsmarted Deschamps
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>>69485329
this. We literally had no midfield in this tournament, and it showed.
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>>69485611
Italy = Germany > Spain > Portugal > France is more like it
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>>69485968
You say that now but your team is old as fuck, where will you stand in 2 years? Lower than Belgium probably
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>>69478916
Deschamps is a dumbass who instead of having his team work slowly and try to pick out a shot or link up play he basically made them charge into Portugal. For the first 30 minutes all France did was go up the wing and tire themselves out. I knew after seeing that that it was over for them
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Deschamps could have done nothing yesterday.
It simply wasn't meant to be.

If you have over 9000 chances and can't make a goal, you have invested so much energy into it that you will definitely lose in the overtime.
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>>69486015
They said this already 2 years ago. We've seen how Belgium played against us

>Belgium golden generation is worse than Italy's worst ever starting XI
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>>69487218
Giroud for Gignac is a pointless, wasteful substitution. Deschamps shoud have learned by the final that there was no point in swapping them.
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