how do we fix this shit
the subs
>mustafi
>leroy
>goetze
there's your problem
By sacking le dingleberry eater
Have actual strikers who can make goals, not glorified attacking midfielders.
>Everyone is injured edition
>>69342431
>tfw no podolski
Sack Yogi and hire based Klinsmann
>>69342289
>play well with Gomez up front
>he gets injured
>start playing badly
???
poor multiculturalism
more refugees
>>69342289
not have 4 starting players injured or suspended
Löw out
Mudslimes out
Götze out
>we
>>69342289
Make them produce proper strikers again, instead of meme players like >Götze
>>69342669
this
>not modifying card aggregates to compensate for the EXTRA MATCH
mother fucking uefa
>>69342289
Be less injured?
>>69342636
at least french niggers sing their anthem and deliver some passion for the NT and then you have Ozil deliberately sabotaging germany because he's turk at heart
sack müller
he was the worst player today
götze is goat
>>69342289
Replace the german players with muslims from Germany
>>69342289
just tell them not to touch the ball with their hands
>>69342496
This.
Tbh with a real striker things would have been different.
Also, despite all the bad things Giroud is good in his role of single forward.
Stop playing like Spain, that would be a start.
Send Müller home, that's a good first step.
>>69342431
Those subs were absolutely horrendous.
But so was the handball by Schweinsteiger, completely retarded and not needed.
Second goal was given to France for free as well.
We were SO bad tonight it's unreal. I hope Löw gets fired.
>>69342289
>>69342289
Install a shiny set of cybernetic joints and next-gen muscles on Gomez.
>0 goals in world cup final in 90 minutes
>0-2 in euro semifinal in 90 minutes
how do we fix this shit
seriously you cannot be content with this, when you put it this way you realize the german team is just not good enough right now
bear in mind those atrocious penalties
They won the WC and will do it next time too. It's no problem.
>no Klose
>no Podolski
know what i mean?
FUCK LÖW AND HIS PEP FETISH
au revoiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir
auuuuuuuuuu revoiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir
>>69342718
>wuz
Ending the curse took its toil.
>>69342289
Get somebody who can score
we need another Klose
I don't know but kill gotze please
>>69342289
I feel sad for Germany and disappointed because a France-Portugal match sounds as entertaining as watching golf.
Damn Germany plays the game beautifully, they deserved more than this.
Also, if Muller was playing shit the whole game why wasn't he substituted?
remove low
remove mueller
remove howedes
wait til kimmich is older
get a backup center forward
So how much refball was there really? A lot the calls/non-calls really could have gone either way.
>"die schwarze Serie von Frankreich ist vorbei"
>7/11 black players
ayy
>>69342289
replace whole team with niggers and have them sit and defend the whole game only to rely on the refs to call a handball
>>69344016
>Also, if Muller was playing shit the whole game why wasn't he substituted?
Who would replace him?
>>69342496
/THREAD/
>>69344202
Fucking this. That Italy game really punished Germany.
>>69342861
>sack Mueller
>with the WC approaching
>>69344199
or you could teach germans to not flop with their hands up when contesting a header
Here's a question: how on earth did an Italian ref get assigned to this game? Aren't there rules in place to prevent situations where the ref would have an obvious bias?
LEAVE TAPPING TO ME
More black people apparently.
>>69344541
>the best German player is a Pole
And now you know why WWII was started.
>France vs Portugal
Fucking seriously?!
>Müller playing like shit through the European Cup
>playing around the midfield 90% of the time without passing from the outside in.
>barely any chances with overwhelming ball possessions.
yea we played like shit, France deserved this win gg
Same problem as Italy, which is why it ended at penalties
>Literally no strikers but one tall shitman with an outdated playing style
>Oh hey we'll just attack with midfielders and IFs
You need to scout educated feet, you have none.
>>69342834
this
>>69344505
Greatest ally
>>69342289
It's what happens when white males are in charge, eventually things go sour.
have gomez play desu germany would have won with gomez and hummels
KICK >GOTZE OUT
FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK HIM
>>69344202
You have a point there. I don't know if Podolski would've done any better.
Damn Germany is in serious need of a new-gen Klose.
Form real strikers and fullbacks
>>69344633
ayyyy. T
oo bad they don't have enough choice, they're really in short of dedicated strikers for a very long time and now they are paying for it.
>>69344772
The only white male in the entirety of France took you down. A white man who can stand above niggers is a true alpha champion, a bunch of white males jerking each other off are nothing but nu males.
>>69342289
I fucking knew Germany would lose
The build-up play upfront...fucking non-existent...just send dumb crosses into the box and hope somebody scores
Where the fuck was Gomez too?
Low needs the sack
Also Hector sucks dick
>>69344891
Absolutely correct, it's why we need multi-culturalism to penetrate every aspect of public and private life.
Its just fucking soccer. And we will most likely win world cup 2018 anyway
>>69344526
What do you mean bias? game was fair and square mate
in basketball we have this thing called squad depth that's why we give "6th man" awards (even if only 5 players are on the court) and we highlight stats for "the bench", maybe you can try having more players to fill roles. like you don't have a backup for Gomez at all and i don't even know who took Hummels place, but also i think FIFA scheduling is cruel. There are just too many games now and you can't even count on a single player to make it through a tournament
>>69342289
CHICANNËN
>>69344949
No crosses indeed, it was infuriating watching the pass the ball around in midfield. practically wasting a lot of time for no reason.
Gomez was injured. But Germany is lacking a tall striker who can take the crosses from the flanks.
>>69344949
>Where the fuck was Gomez too?
He was injured and iirc Hummels had yellow card accumulation.
That's what doomed Germany.
>5 GAMES IN WHICH YOU CANNOT GET 2 YELLOW CARDS
FIX YOUR SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69345046
Just wait for the final moorfag and then you'll wonder why they handed the cup to France on a silver plate.
>>69342850
This.
Immigrants will never assimilate to Germany's team, their culture is pathetic. They unironically hate themselves.
>>69345524
What are you talking about? It's fine the way it is.
Fouls are absolute cancer.
>>69342590
Oh no, they're not getting our German.
>>69342431
sane is a great sub but way too late. he would've ruled if he came earlier
also
>no striker
>özil (although he played well today, i know)
>hector
>kimmich
>götze
>not determined enough to go in the box
>no hard/fast crosses
>PLAYING THE BALL WITH THE HAND TWICE IN A TOURNAMENT THUS CONCEDING MASSIVE GAME CHANGER GOALS
>>69342289
:removelöw:
>KIMMICH
top kek
he got manhandled by Pogba
if he defended that then it's a good game for the next 25 minutes
>>69345113
>No crosses indeed
No
That's what Germany was doing all game long
They were just sending dumb cross after dumb cross constantly from their fullbacks
Rinse and Repeat...predictable as fuck
That was Germany's "Gameplan"
It's sad because this team is capable of far better than this shitshow they delivered tonight
Low needs to go
>>69342980
Won't disagree with the subs, but(unlike Boateng) Longname's hand was purely accidental and induced by the french player's movement.
If anywhere, Herr Pigbreeder definitely went wrong in his intervention in the second goal.
Not sure what to do with Löw because I don't know what your other options are.
>all these germans blaming Gotze
Alright Germany look, if you're gonna blame someone then blame the man that fucking played the full 90 and did ANSOLUTELY NOTHING
FUCKING THOMAS MULLER
FUCK HIM AND FUCK THE FACT HE'S BECOME SO MUCH OF A SHADOW THAT IT'S HARD TO TELL HE'S EVEN ON THE TEAM
YOU THINK OZIL IS INVISIBLE NO THAT FUCKER MULLER HASN'T SHOWN UP ONCE NOT EVEN ONCE IN THIS EURO
GET
RID
OF
HIM
>>69345629
Americans don't give a fuck about association football anyway, might as well deport Klinsmann back to fatherland.
>>69345776
this guy gets it
Buy more turks
Am I the only one who think Germany were just about the better team? They were wiping the floor with France until the handball before half time. Then the complexion of the game changed.
If that goes to half time 0-0 I think Germany come back out and take the game from France. It was very out of character for Germany, these mistakes. France as a result grew into the game over the second half.
They were missing Hummels badly tonight too, even his tendency to come forward a bit and spray a few passes.
>>69344526
>italian
While it's obvious he'd have a bias, only god knew who he was going to favour and whether he wouldn't change sides mid game. I guess that's why they let him ref this.
>>69346067
>Getting rid of Muller when in 2 years he'll be a beast at the WC like he usually is
How about no?
Just don't play him at the Euro's instead
>>69346085
I like our national team well enough, even though they aren't on the level of Germany/Italy/France.
>>69346259
Too bad a game lasts 90 minutes not 45
They were good in the first 30 minutes or so but no fucking striker
And then Boateng getting injured in 2nd half fucked them over big time
Problem is a big team like Germany should be prepared for such occassions
Does it need fixing?
>>69342289
They fell for the
>Now attackers have to be more than just a good striker
meme
>>69346085
>association football
fuck off
>>69346259
France was better in the first 10 minutes and Greaseman could've scored the goal of the tournament but Neuer blocked it. Germany was good until that handball, but you saw they can't play under pressure.
>>69346593
Agreed. Loew brings one striker and his back-up strikers are Mueller and Fatze, neither of whom is an actual striker.
>>69346593
We won a WC this way.
>meme
There was too much baggage in this German team.
>Podolski
>Schweinsteiger
>Hector
>No striker
Schweinsteiger's career is over.Muller is a horrible midfielder and an useless striker.But he is really efficient as a second striker.He was good against Ireland.
One of the major weaknesses was the fullbacks.They have one of the weakest crossing records in this tournament.I don't get why they were putting so much effort to attack from the flanks.They should have tried to cut other teams through the middle with more penetrating passes and making unpredictable runs behind defenders like Spain 2008-2012 because Germany have the best midfield.Hector is fucking pathetic.No wonder he used to play for a 6th tier team until a few years ago.He won't get into any of the top 30 teams.Kimmich is inexperienced and short and not strong,which is not ideal for an attacking fullback.This German attack is static.Reus would have made this German attack more dynamic.Also more strikers please
>>69344410
the entire population of your broken state?
>>69346633
True. He should've called it "divegrass".
>>69342289
By making Germany a german team.
>>69346584
Germany will win their next Euro in 2028
1972
1980
1996
2028
It makes sense
It just keeps multiplying
hrubesch is the delusional fucker who is to blame...
this needs to be fixed asap
bring back proper strikers or see matches like tonights
>>69342289
Why would you want to fix it? You aren't German.
>>69346737
I would say Argentina lost it more than you won it, did you see those misses? disgusting by Argentina
>>69346757
This
>>69346737
didn't klose start the majority of games? and even when he didn't start he came on as a sub, something germany definitely needed tonight
>>69346737
Yeah, you are pretty good all around the field which causes an overload of attacking and pressure on teams and you finish fucking them up, but when faced with well done bus parking + resilence you struggle to score. You need a cheeky muthafucka up forward.
>>69346957
>2011
tonight was a failure 5 years in the making
>>69346757
true my rare friend. but the reason why they attack over the flanks is because every team is playing with 2 dm nowadays. unless enemy fucks up you need to attack with rb/lb, which is Germany's weakness. They actually have trash tier fullbacks. Kimmich is decent but inexperienced (on that position) . Another problems is that Germany is just too harmless after flanks. Gomez was good for this, but today without him was terrible. They wouldn't have scored in 900 minutes.
>>69346957
With Reus this cup would have been an easy rush.
Just because they went unlucky today doesn't mean everything was shit.
The game was dominated the chances (good chances) happened.
The Ref played a clear role in this game.
Lots of important players injured.
This amount of bad luck not even a striker can fix.
What our team really needs is a Reus that is not injured as always.
4-2-3-1 is a shit formation
You're just overloading your attack with too many forwards who in most cases will not work together and instead will try to rely on their individual characteristics
>>69346737
Not really, Klose was very important drawing defenders most games. Germany played really well, probably one of their bettter games since the 7-1, they were just unlucky.
>>69347540
Klose was doing nothing most of the games. Like the pure strikers are used too.
>>69347120
Constantly crossing like retards over and over is not a good gameplan
You need intensity,tactical flexibility and dynamism against opponents like this
Germany didn't once try to make a counter-attack vs France for example...their play is too one-dimensional and doesn't change much throughout the match
>>69347540
Also comparison:
Müller scored 5 in the WC 2014
Klose only 2 and one of those against Brazil what can't be acounted as an Achievment.
Also Götze, Hummels and Kroos scored two just as Klose.
The traditional striker is useless.
>>69347296
Boateng dying was horrible and decided the match desu. His passes and saves were super fucking solid as usual.
>>69347366
This. Germans where so overcrowded up front they were bothering each other.
>>69347687
I'm pretty damn sure they tried at least once, I think it was Müller on a wrong pass by France.
What happened, and seems to be a big issue for them, is that their players are both slow and get tired too easily. They just can't outrun all those Usain Bolts on France, much less on the second half. Heck, even in the previous games against less athletic teams this was pretty evident.
>>69347809
What? Boateng was sorely missed, but he was far from his best shape this match. Lots of missed crosses and saves compared to his usual.
I would adapt a Dutch 4-3-3
Lets make the total foorball!
>lowe
>kimmich
>howedes
>can and oezil
>mustafi
>50 yr old pig climber
>thomas "chimpout" mueller
into the trash
>>69347947
That was more of a pressing thing than a counter(Muller really botched that one tho)
Athleticism has nothing to do with it
If Germany knew when to switch to second gear with some good positioning from the forwards they could make some really good counter-attacks via long balls by Schweini/Kroos/Ozil
But this Germany is far too one-dimensional in their play much like Spain
>>69347981
That would be good
A CAM always fucking sucks in a 4-2-3-1 and is practically invisible anyways due to the wingers always hogging the balls for themselves(if you really want to play with a CAM then play 4-3-1-2 or 4-4-1-1 or some shit)
i don't think germany played that bad. just unlucky.
>>69342289
Fifth Reich
>>69347120
>>69347687
They had one of the greatest right backs for almost a decade until a few years ago.I think that's why they rely so much on the flanks.Low made some poor decisions in selecting players like Hector,Schweinsteiger,Podolski.Also lots of experienced players in this German team like Muller,Boateng,Schweinstteiger,Ozil,Neuer aren't that good at handling pressure against good teams and that's why lose so often in semi finals and finals unlike other big teams.Low should have changed the system after Lahm and Klose retired .This German team could have won this Euro if they attacked through the middle with penetrating passes and clever runs instead of attacking through flanks because they have the best midfield.Low is a good tactician.But he should either revert back to a counter attacking system or fluid attacking through the middle.OR he should replace these useless fullbacks with better fullbacks/wingers and a good striker or two.
>>69343715
>we need another Klose
this
>>69348521
what's the fourth though?
>>69346770
Pay debts
>>69345700
muller was the worst imo.A total waste of space
>>69345776
they were unable to make crosses for all the first half. In the second half they still couldn't and so they got desperate and started the dumb crosses.
>>69348774
>implying it isn't just an American Trojan Horse
>implying there was even a third Reich
>>69348890
It's for argument's sake.
>>69342496
This.
Best midfield and defense (nerfed to death in this game but whatever) in the world don't help if you can't score goals. We literally have NO striker.
>choke past Italy because Italy chokes harder
>g-guys we did it we broke the curse, the title is ours!!
>fail at the next hurdle
classic
>>69349027
>implying that getting meme penalties counts as something
France deserve the win because they actually scored a legit goal anyway
>>69349027
You didn't even actually beat Italy, it went to penalties and there Zaza and Pelle fucked up.
>>69349027
it was the worst italian team in forever.
And look at how much you missed gomez. Imagine how the match would have changed if we had de rossi.
Not to speak of marchisio candreva and verratti.
You needed penalties to win against italy's B team. France was obviously superior tbhfam
>>69349153
I'm so glad it was Schweinshit who ruined it all.
In fact, United players fucking it up seems to be a common theme, see Darmian.
>>69342289
Stop saluting with your hands like you did back in the day
War is over Hans
>Ah and get a decent forward instead of Mueller/Goatse
By stopping the boring possessionball.
>>69349215
>you
I was supporting Italy all the way, my moustached plumber friend.
>>69349269
Kimmich lost us the game with his faulty play. 0-1 or 0-2 doesnt matter and I'd argue that morale didn't cause Kimmich to suck. He did so way before
Gündogan
Reus
Hummels
Khedira
there you have it
>>69346584
Christ
Makes me realise just how shit England are.
>>69349344
lel
Schweinsteiger blew it for the 1-0
Kimmich, Mustafi and Neuer blew it for the 2-0
>>69342289
By not being injured and stop playing handball.
Also the offense is garbage and desperately needs a new tactic.
>>69349400
We're missing a ton of players. We actually defended rather well despite all of our defense being removed due to injuries before the game starts. We're also missing Valbuena... If we're going to bring in injuries then we'd be really advantaged too.
>>69347735
>>69347622
They aren't, people like to talk crap about strikers like Klose or Torres, but if you look at how they balance things out they were important. On 2010 absolutely everyone bashed Torres but it was easy to see that Villa greatly benefited from having Torres draw the attackers constantly. On 2014 Müller always came from behind once Klose had pulled defenders away. Having a nominal striker is very important if you play the way Spain & Germany do. I agree that it would be better if they had someone like Messi,Griezmann, Benzema or Suarez that both create and finish plays but that is hard to come by and if there isn't the talent stick with a pure "9".
>>69349368
Isn't Gundogan a permacrock though? Can't rely on a player like this for int. tournaments.
>how do we fix this shit
get rid of the old guard ffs
>schweinsteiger is horrible
>müller is horrible
>özil is horrible
>neuer is horrible
>götze is horrible
>kimmich is actually pretty good
>hector was pretty decent
>4 WC
>lose an irrelevant cup
>It's the Versailles treaty all over again
You are blowing this out of proportions Germany
>>69349467
And yet your coach didn't change your team since last time. I really hope you beat Portugal
>>69349500
>Neuer
>Sweinsteiger
>horrible
Are you ok.
>>69342289
sack the shit manager
>>69349554
>Schweinsteiger is definitely shit now, old and out of form.
>>69349597
didn't mean to greentext, for fuck's sake.
>>69349597
When he's subbed for 1 half he's doing good. When he has to play the entire match he won't keep up late.
He still did great work the entire tournament and especially vs Italy.
idk
>2016
>still using the shitting jew
>>69349500
>Özil
I hate Özil, but this match was his best the entire tournament
>Neuer
Neuer is one of the best. If we had the france goalkeeper we would've gone 3-0
>Kimmich good
Landesverrat
>>69349500
Are you blind?
Özil is the second best player on the team regarding ball control and passing, just after Kroos.
Kimmich could be great, but he was way too inexperienced for a semifinal.
Hector was great in all matches up until this one, he choked.
Also
>Neuer
>horrible
I've figured your team out
>>69349936
>ameriburger hating germans as usual
nothing new here
fuck off
>>69350037
but it's true, it's just kimmich was useless so Gomez had to do it against Italy, and the forwards were useless so OEZIL had to score.
>>69349500
schweinsteiger, handball aside, and özil were pretty good.
Hector was bad
kimmich was worse
muller was terrible
>>69350142
This
Even though Germany had so many midfielders and attacking fullbacks,Gomez was the one who created the chance with an intelligent penetrating pass against a decent Italian team.What has happened to the German midfield?
>>69350513
RARE FLAG !
no schürrle no win
by naturalizing sm1 who can play as striker
>>69350513
they had no gomez this time
>>69342289
With World Cup.
>>69342289
unusual answer:
Better sports medicine.
It is an open secret that Germany/The Bundesliga lacks of modern sport medicin....
Best example: Buyern
Even before Pep there was a long history of tragic and ridiculous injuries.
DFB 2014 .... Schweinsteiger and Khedira were running wrecks etc.
Better medicine - better recreation - better endurance - lower risk of injury..
>>69349381
This 2bh
Not even on the same planet
