>''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''Golden'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' generation
>Won literally nothing
If Portugal win the final Ronaldo is at worst the second best Portuguese player of all time, right?
He was already considered THE best by the federation.
were they nicknamed 'the midgets' by any chance?
*sigh* dumb americans
Back in the day euros were more competitive
not this 24 team 3rd place repechage memery
>>69318188
>Figo: "Those who criticize Ronaldo, know nothing about football"
(You)
>>69318124
At least they were not wearing some ugly as shit neon green uni. I loved those red shirts they wore back then.
>>69318236
Would this 2016 team have lost to 2002 South Korea or USA?
The debate has been between him or Eusébio being the best of all time for a few years now. Maybe Ronaldo is the best, if he wins the final on Sunday then there's no contest
>>69318266
>USA
no
>Korea
yes, it was rigged
Imagine Ronaldo wins the World Cup for his country. He will be made god in Portugal.
>>69318273
They still massively underachieved, right? Can you argue that anyone besides Eusebio is above Ronaldo if he wins Sunday?
Back when there were brancos in Portugal.
2004 Euro was the chance of a lifetime to win a major tournament, against a shit team in the finals. I still can't believe they fucked it up.
>>69318431
They lost to them in the group as well so it's not that surprising when you think about it
>>69318266
>2002
The golden generation was already ageing by then
and the pre-world cup preparation was a joke
Rui Costa and Figo were fatigued by the long season
the whole thing was setup to fail from the start
>>69318266
There was a ton of issues with the 2002 world cup.
From going to Macao to prepare for it, player behaviour, a coach who did nothing but nonsense and basically retired after the comp, refballs against SK and many others. If you count those, the yes, they would.
Euro 2000 and, partially, 2004 proved that gen could've won something. They didn't, and Ronaldo, probably, won't either.
>>69318532
2004 was already a transitory generation to this TSUUUUnaldo team
>>69318502
>>69318532
but if Ronaldo does win, he has to be at least second best?
>>69318616
I already consider him all time best
Eusebio was a meme
only Figo and maybe Paulo Futre come close
>>69318616
He's not gonna win.
>>69318616
Individually? He already is.
Team wise? This one will never be considered the best.
>>69318643
>Eusebio was a meme
No. You might not bother watching his games, but for those who have, he's far from that.
>>69318162
There're taking the hobits to Isengard!
>>69318674
Come on, Pierre, this is the year of memes. Leicester won the EPL. The Cavaliers won the NBA Finals. This is the year when the impossible is coming true.
Now, I'll grant you that a true demonstration of this would have been Iceland or Wales winning the Euro. However, Portugal winning it, and Ronaldo finally basking in international glory, is close enough.
Also this would lead to a new eternity of Messi/Ronaldo shitposting. For that reason we should hope that Portugal pulls it out.
>>69318643
where does Rui Costa rank?
>>69318686
I was talking specifically individually. A few weeks ago I saw someone with a Portugal flag saying that Ronaldo was "barely" a top 5 player for the country. Probably on a proxy
>>69318124
Funny thing about the U20 Golden Gen: The two, arguably, most talented players, Gil Semedo and Emílio Peixe, never achieved anything. Complete blunders.
>>69318774
Gil Gomes, not Semedo.
>>69318744
>Rui Costa
after Figo, probably the same as Futre
>>69318744
Rui Costa is top 10. A little behind Futre and Figo. Spending most of his career at Fiorentina didn't help him and he reached Milan aging and with Kaka exploding.
>>69318816
I remember reading that Barca were in for him but Florentina put in the better offer and Costa took that to help Benfica financially
>>69318643
>Eusébio was a meme
>>69318726
>this is the year of memes
We and Germany are meme killers. Portugal's fate is sealed. I can already sense the butthurt the Portuguese will feel, I can already see those faggots celebrating yesterday cry like bitches on sunday.
>>69318686
I might be biased for being Sporting fan, but back in the day they had shit conditioning and shit tactics
He had great pace and strength, but thats it
None of the technical ability modern players have
>>69318831
It's true. He loved Benfica, even cried when he scored against them.
Due to that, he's basically being trained to be Benfica's next president.
>>69318833
>a elogiar pretalhada mourisca lisboeta
Enfim...
>>69318849
Germany is going to fuck you up.
You've had a joke of a run, far easier than Portugal, and your old, tired, and shit defense is going to get ripped to shreds by the mannschaft.
Just surrender now Frog, its over.
>>69318816
Fiorentina had great players like Batistuta, Toldo or Di Livio in his time there
>>69318874
Ronaldo has great strenght and pace. It's what makes him great, not technical ability.
For that, Quaresma is, for example, much more talented.
>>69318979
It did, but a few doesn't make a whole. It never won anything nor did it have internacional impact, name wise.
>>69318431
Superiority of Greek strategy against a bunch of talented individuals
In the off-chance we actually manage to win against whoever goes to the finals, it's gonna suck because Ronaldo is gonna get nearly all the credit despite the fact in a lot of these games he was completely carried by his team mates.
>>69319462
It's hard to do something when you're being marked by 2 players
>>69319462
Why doesn't Moutinho start?
>>69318124
>holding hands
thats what real soccer was like. none of this hugging shit we have now
>>69318236
what are you doing on /sp/ at 6:30 in the morning?
>>69318124
>The best player ever may not be the best in some subset of players
chucked
>>69319477
He's been injured for the entire season, so he's not his best form and has been slow af, stopping the whole game
Plus, Adrien is doing really good
>>69318236
This "3rd place repechage memery" is why Poortugal didn't go home after groups
>>69319477
Renato Sanches carries the ball for huge distances, something Moutinho isn't as good at. Moutinho is 10/10 with assists though
penaldo is not as good as figo
>>69319962
Different roles m8, nice try
>>69319962
Ronaldo has more trophies, more goals, more assists, but yes, Figo is much better because when you were a kid someone told you he was really awesome.
Let's put it this way, for us it's Ronaldo, for the older generation that saw Eusebio it is Eusebio.Of the few things I saw Eusebio was really good, he took freekicks much better than Ronaldo and his shoot is much powerful than Ronaldo. But both score goals in any kind of way, be left or right foot, headers, be from afar. Eusebio changed Benfica since the 60s until early 70s. Ronaldo breaks records after records and won individual titles and more champions league.
Overall they are about the same probably, but the eras are different as hell.
>>69318744
>Rui Costa
Ever? Probably top10. In the last 30 years? Like Top 5.
The thing is we always had great players, some are forgotten(like Peyroteo) or there are no videos or much info about them just stories. We know things about the 60s thanks to the World Cup66 and the old champions league with recaps, if it wasn't for that we would know anything about Eusebio either, just stories.
And Figo is the 3rd, everyone thinks that. Futre from what I saw was better than Figo, but he had a bunch of injuries that fucked him up and Futre was in the end of generation of 80s and the beginning of 90s(the golden gen) so Futre was one those guys that was between gens which was pretty shitty for him.
>>69318874
Eusebio would learn and would last longer with the medical conditions we have today. Talented players are like that.
Don't forget how strong his shots were, with heavy-ass ball that made them shoot with pure strenght, no curling allowed. Today's balls are a joke, they are like balloons and do weird curlings without trying. Or the field, those shitty fields. How the hell did they could even run fast on those conditions
>>69320095
I'm guessing Coluna is one of those forgotten players? Even though he played in the 60s he doesnt get talked about
>>69319962
Figo is a meme player if i ever saw one
>>69318833
>ter orgulho num preto que nem sequer nasceu em terra lusitana.
>>69320144
Coluna is underrated like Iniesta will be underrated. Midfielders just aren't as flashy
>>69320301
Angola era nossa, borrego
>>69320476
>Eusébio
>Angola
Mata-te caralho.
>>69320476
Zidane
>>69320517
Angola e todo o resto, trambolho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHk3RnNA9M
>>69320538
É com cada cromo este site, caralho.
I forgot something. There is something nobody will take from Ronaldo, he will be in the 2 finals until today of Portugal in 12 years, in the beginning of his career and almost in the end. And broke the record of Platini. Took Ronaldo 4 Euros, but still matters.
>>69320144
Yes, like others from the 66 specially José Torres who was very important on how Eusebio scored some goals and he died a few years ago with no one caring that much.
Fernando Gomes, Manuel Fernandes, Vitor Damas, Chalana and Manuel Bento are other names.
>>69320476
>Angola
>Not mozambique
Não interessa, não foi em solo Português. E não é filho de gente Lusa.
E se não fosse Salazar a obriga-lo a ficar em Portugal ele tinha-se pirado para outro sítio qualquer ou pensas o quê ? que ele tinha amor à camisola... Ele queria ir-se embora e viver na europa.
Puta que o pariu mas é.
>>69320556
>>69320614
>not understanding an expression
Even your lil sister knows Eusébio was born in Mozambique, quit with the shitshow
>>69320614
>não foi em solo português
Errado
>>69320014
fuck off canuck
your opinion is worthless, go watch hockey
>>69320614
>muh Salazar
Retarded meme.
How many titles did Benfica win again during his dictatorship?
How many did Sporting win?
Yeah...KEK
Also:
>that one fucking year were Salazar send Sporting instead of Benfica into the Champions League
>even though the team that became National Champion was Benfica
KEK
Sporting is worse than Arsenal, literaly nothing to be proud of, the only time they racket up trophies was during a Dictatorship where they got handholded by his regime.
Literalmente o clube do Estado Novo
AYYYYYYYYY LMAOOOOOOOO
>people talking about Futre
>literally a guy that needs pills to start his """""""""""""""""""""start engine"""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>69321236
Ah, you must be one of those Poortuguese who will do anything to support Moortugal
Except live in it
>>69318266
2002 was a joke. Some players were caught partying late at night a couple of days before the tournament. The manager couldn't put a hand in them.
One player was sent home after he accused positive in some doping test.
It was completely crazy
>>69321236
>not luxembourg flag
disappointing
>>69321537
Switzerland is the 3rd european country with more portuguese "muh diaspora"
>>69318162
I agree that picture is a little weird and makes everyone look small but considering that Figo is 1,8 m none of them is a hobbit
>>69321362
Nice shitpost, how did you get into that conclusion after a post shitting on a shit club?
>deliberately living in misery
Nah, I rather go abroad and earn the money I deserve :)
>>69319477
because Adrien exists?
Figo underperformed more times for Portugal than Ronaldo.
Figo literally lives off that one great tournament performance in Euro 2000.
You know how everyone's been super critical of Ronaldo's performance this Euros? Well it's still been far better than Figo's Euros 2004/WC 2006 performances.
>>69321236
Retarded benficuck.
When will you appear on nós lá fora?
>tfw he's gonna be anonymous all game
>tfw Portugal are gonna fluke a 1-0 win with a Pepe header or something
>tfw this will be enough for Donaldo to win the Ballon d'Or simply because he won the trophy
>>69322096
>You know how everyone's been super critical of Ronaldo's performance this Euros? Well it's still been far better than Figo's Euros 2004/WC 2006 performances.
You're talking shit m8. Figo made the team of the tournament in both of those cups. He may not have Ronaldo's stats, but his influence on games and his own team was far greater.
>>69322096
Embarrassing post
>>69322397
Did you even watch those tournaments? Scolari was never able to get the best out of Figo and the latter was naturally declining. He was getting outplayed by kid Ronaldo back then and being subsituted in big games while they were trailing.
>>69321881
>I deserve everything ;____; Portugal is dump booo hooo...
Aposto que andas a lavar pratos ou outra profissão tipo essa, não me venhas com tretas a dizer que és doutor ou engenheiro informático porque os suiços não aceitam portugueses para esses cargos.
>>69322700
E checka lá estes duplos azeiteiro.
>>69322335
>won the CL
>captained his side bravely to win the euros
hes the hero we deserve.
>>69321881
>getting into that conclusion
>into
Rapaziada, temos doutor aqui. Peguem na marmita que já fomos...
>>69318349
noone is above Ronaldo.
>Figo and Eusébio won 1 golden globe each. Ronaldo is going for the 4th.
>With Eusébio Portugal went once to the semis in a world cup.
>With Ronaldo portugal has been to WC semis once and also to EC finals twice.
>He is the most capped player and top scorer of all time.
>Eusébio won CL twice, Ronaldo 3 times so far.
>Eusébio won two times the golden shoe. CR has won 4 times.
As ronaldo says, "In the end, you can think whatever you want, but what counts is the stats". He is the best portuguese player of all time for quite some time now, and in the end he will be up there in the top 5 with Pele, Maradona, Messi and Zidane
>>69323645
Yeah and stats show he's just scoring goals.
Müller scored shitload of goals, wow, guess he was best player ever.
Football is a team game. Portugal has a really good team, I have no idea why people shit on them. Their midfield is stacked, their defense is pretty good.
They only lack a top striker , besides Ronaldo.
>>69323772
I think this has been our problem since at least the last 12 years.
One good striker would seriously put us on the same level as Germany, France, Spain, etc.
Oh, and maybe a slightly better GK, Patrício isn't really a world class GK, quite far from it.
>>69323772
I was just comparing them on a personal level, but on the team level ronaldo has been much more successful than both as well.
What is really going to be interesting, is the next 4/5 years. Will anyone be able to say that Pele was better than Ronaldo when he tops him in the overall career goals, even when playing in a top level league and not brazil? Will anyone be able to say that Maradona was better than Ronaldo when the latter has 300 more goals scored and a much more impressive team achievements? If Ronaldo wins this Euro, can anyone said Messi is better when he failed to win a title with Argentina, which is far better than Portugal?.
He is on the top 5 ever in my opinion. He could still be the best of all time, It's up to him now.
>>69318124
as opposed to figuratively winning nothing?
>>69322700
>lavar pratos
KEK
Vai la continuar a mamar no fundo de desemprego e deixa-me ganhar o meu guito em paz :)
Poupo em um mês o que tu poupas aí em 5 anos.
>>69324133
>>69322700
E checka lá estes duplos seu desperdício de oxigênio.
>>69322733
sheeeit
>>69318849
I think you're a bit confused here son, your fate is the one that's sealed
can't wait
Also losing to Germoney is no shame, they're a good team
>>69322700
>having that amount of salt
>>69323929
> You now remember that Gameiro could be starting for Portugal instead of being at home if he just used his head
>>69318849
I bet if france beats portugal in the final, they'll just switch sides
>>69321537
Luxembourg is like 1/10 portuguese though yeah
(;
>>69322335
He's winning it anyhow, not disputable
>>69325488
Carrasco too, fuck Lelgium. But I'm not sure if any of them even barely speak portuguese
>>69324133
tou jelly
>>69325661
>>69324133
Tiraste o curso em Portugal?
>>69325693
Sim, mas falo alemão fluente, só não te contratam se não falares a lingua deles.
Com alemão "desenrascado" aí sim acaba-se em fábricas, lavar pratos e nas obras.
He is already the best Portuguese player ever by far.
The hate has gone too far and it is kinda getting pathetic now.
>>69318979
Fiorentina won 3 national cups with Rui, and reached a cup winner's cup semifinal. In Italy it's not easy to win something if you are not a striped thief like inter, milan or juventurd
that Portugal team would win this euro easy
there was a lot more competition at NT level back then
>>69323645
>Pele, Maradona, Messi and Zidane
>Zidane
He wasn't even the best player of his own generation
>>69326620
Euro 2004 was a long time ago, relax m8
>>69326664
why the fuck would i give a shit about that?
it was portugal who knocked us out (with the assist of refball lets not forget)
>>69318124
they should had won 2004 t b h
on the other side they could become something like Greece back then being the Underdog beat the hometeam in final
>>69326744
Zidane didn't mean anything personal with his goals vs you guys calm down
>>69326547
Especially back when Serie A was the best League in the world
>>69326789
There was never any animosity towards Zidane back then. That defeat was down to one of Gerrard's now famous back-passes.
>>69326855
This.
It was all Portugal/Ricardo/Winknaldo/penalties from 04-06.
Media cared about nothing else.
Imagine if >we win.
You would be as good as Greece and Denmark
>>69318124
>Ronaldo is at worst the second best Portuguese player of all time
Eusebio,Figo and Rui Costa are all better than him so no
>>69323645
Penaldo is garbage
Eusebio,Figo,Rui Costa,Nuno Gomez are all above this fag
>>69324133
Fluente em alemão, mas pelos vistos não em português, meu camarada.
>>69318124
I liked Figo and I loved Pauleta
the 2016 team makes me sick
>>69324133
cringe
>>69318744
>where does Rui Costa rank?
Second only to Eusebio
[spoiler]Figo is in top 3 don't hurt me portuguese friends[/spoiler]
>>69318979
>>69319042
Rui won Fiorentina a Coppa Italia WITHOUT Batistuta
People seem to forget this
>>69326754
no way
we can't let this happen
all those fucking avecs celebrating and shit
If you win against us you'll have to destroy them
It would be a national tragedy if Portugal wins here
>>69327648
avecs are not portuguese
>>69327648
Kill them all. You would be doing the world a favour.
>>69324133
nice proprietary software faggot
>>69327726
Whatever keeps the cashflow going freetard.
>>69327689
they think they are
yesterday night was a fucking nightmare
If they win the final some people will lose it and beat the fuck out of them, I know I will
>>69324170
>oxigênio
>ê
>>69327805
Teclado suíço em sistema operativo alemão a tentar escrever português da merda, carreguei na tecla ALT GR em vez de ALT, pequeno erro :)
>>69326547
>Milan
>thieves
Fuck off
Only the Gobbi are thieves
>>69327633
tnx to remember this, based albanon
>>69327899
the gobbi are the kings of thieves, but also miln if is necessary are thieves. Remember 2012/2013 they litteraly swiped the 3rd place.
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