Daily reminder that multicultural national teams will always fail
what about Spain?
1998 France?
2 black guys literally won the game for Wales yesterday
>>69152878
We are not multicultural or multirace, we are just multilingual but in the nt they all speak spanish.
Catalonia is not really another culture, just another language.
But the Welsh team was multicultural as well...
>>69152944
Do Basques not have another culture?
What about France '98?Was that the outlier?Brazil is pretty multicultural, still got 5 world cups.
>>69152941
Germany is World Champion though
>>69152921
>>69152973
Frace patrotism was still a thing then, they all were french, sons of the republique.
>>69152964
No they really don't, some traditions are not a whole culture.
>people think multicultural means non white
Autism
You can be black/brown and still feel part of the home culture like the Welsh lads clearly do
>>69152973
LOL brazil is not multiculural you dummy, multirace is not multicultural, all brazilians share the same macaco culture.
>>69153050
according to poltards ethnicity is all that defines someone's national identity, while at the same time they make fun of americans for caring about their genetic heritage. just ignore them
>>69152795
what about germany two years ago?
>>69152941
2 english black guys*
>>69153017
Which proves his point?
>>69153050
>>69153102
Multirace doesn't mean multiculti
>>69153036
this
the most culturally distinct region in Spain is by far Andalusia, but you don't see them bragging about it and asking for special treatment
when it comes to basques and catalonians all they have (at least a chunk of their population) going on for them is a shared belief that they are unique, at which point cultural differentiation becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts
>>69153196
I am aware of that
>>69152795
united states routinely outperforms its actual ability due to cohesiveness.
yuros are just whiny and manufacture ways to undermine themselves
Did somebody call us?
what about Germany then?
they easily won 2014 WC
Excuse me?
Belgium truly is a multi cultural country. The north is completely different from the south.
Poland and Croatia disagree
>>69153102
that's because americans are mixed as fuck
being 25% of italian heritage doesn't make you italian
that's why they had to come up with this new absurd concept of "white race" to define their "identity"..
>>69153254
You are not multicultural you all have the same jewnigger culture.
>>69152795
Doesn't Germany have 2 Africans, a Spaniard, and some Turks?
>>69152795
.....meanwhile in mens' sports...
>>69153373
>that's why they had to come up with this new absurd concept of "white race"
>they had to come up
Lol, you think the concept of a "white race" was an American idea? Blame the Spanish and Portuguese for that.
>>69153211
Well I'm catalan, a catalanist in fact but I don't think we have a different culture, just different languages and some different traditions but that's not enough to be a different culture.
>>69153394
people have mentioned germany but of course /pol/tards are trying to ignore it
>>69153373
even if they were of 100% "italian" ethnicity that would not make them acual italians
>>69153417
You all dance that savage thing so I'm right, you share the same culture, that's why you perform well.
Ah, I get it, you mean multicultural because of the differences(mainly the language barrier and cultural differences) between Wallonia and Flanders?I agree, they should split and hand themselves over to France and the Netherlands respectively.Brussels can be its own little entity.But then again, in the pic you have selected it's a bunch of guys from different races.
>>69153429
Most of players were german I don't know what you think that german team was.
Just Ozil and Khedirah were different.
>>69152795
WRONG.
>>69153102
>they make fun of americans for caring about their genetic heritage
Not from /pol/ but that's not why they make fun of the "muh heritage" Americans.
It has nothing to do with the genetic heritage, it's all about the cultural one. Some Americans for instance claim to be Irish even though they have never set foot in Ireland. Nobody is denying the fact some of their ancestors came from Ireland but it's just an odd thing to brag about, especially when you no longer have any connection with the country of origin.
>>69153445
And non of them feel belgian, that's what i mean.
Ask a muslim if he's a muslim first or a british first and he'll tell you he's a muslim first.
>>69153437
Jajaja damn you are actually correct..
>>69153476
But there's no multiculturalism there, you are all Alberto Barbosas.
Multi cultural isn't multi race ffs. Why are people so dumb? Are you normalfags? Do you just use the internet for porn?
Belgium is multi cultural. The north is heavily dutch influenced, the south is heavily french influenced. That's multi cultural
>>69153445
>I agree, they should split and hand themselves over to France and the Netherlands respectively
Holy shit, just imagine how strong France would be if that happened
>>69153390
not only is that incorrect, but there are literally 3 germans in the starting xi
>>69153479
I was just pointing out their contraddictions
I do make fun of muh heritage americans aswell. I mean, how can you not?
>>69153532
Say that to my face, coño.
>>69153503
Yeah but if you ask someone like Jermain Defoe what they are, he'll tell you English.It depends on the immigrants.Arabs and African blacks seem the worse, Caribbeans and Eastern Europeans(but not Albanians/Kosovans) seem better integrated.
>>69153418
i don't care where it came from
what's funny is that americans are unironically using the "white race" to define their so called identity
>>69153436
no.. they would be ethnic italians living in a nation with a non-italian culture
blood is what makes your identity.. not your passport or your eating habits
>>69153479
its more a holdover from like 2 generations ago when people all knew first generation immigrants and many lived in neighborhoods segregated by national origin. that obviously gets passed down from gen to gen, and the importance fades over time.
>>69153662
>blood is what makes your identity
Absoluely wrong. Culture and language are the main factors in defining someone's national identity and both are given by environment, not blood
>>69153609
He was born in france from a french mother, post a portuguese at least
>>69153795
only the father counts
>Daily reminder that multicultural national teams will always fail
yeah except Wales, Italy, France, Germany and Portugal...
>>69152795
of course boy
>>69153922
Multirace is not multicultural
>>69153733
nope
cultures are the result of national ethnic heritage. And by nation i mean communities bonded by blood, not some geographical expressions like "Belgium"
>>69153662
IMO blood determines what you look like and life determines identity.
>>69153944
just apologise and delete your thread idiot. You've been proven wrong and embarrassed yourself.
>>69153944
Vieira was from Senegal
Thuram was from Guadeloupe
Desailly was from Ghana
Trezeguet grew up in Argentina
while you euros cling to your "culture" america and china moved into the 21st century.
the rest of the industrial world has to bail europe out so your high unemployment doesn't start another world war. fucking retards.
>>69154076
>valuing money over culture
kill thyself
>>69153957
blood isn't a concept with a ton of science behind it. Traits tend to be clinal, so setting the blood distinction at the national level is pretty arbitrary.
>>69153963
that's why a black guy from Oakland has more in common with someone from the DRC than a latin dude from LA
>>69153987
>>69154053
France nationalism is multirace, it's a republique nationalism, a nationalism of laws it's not the same.
They were all sons of the republique, they were all french and feel like that.
It's not the same anymore cause that feeling has been demonized.
>>69154105
your culture is worthless
>>69154053
since when Guadeloupe is a country? Is Alaska a country?
>>69154105
>his post was about avoiding war due to a functioning society
>its about money hurr durr killyourself
>yuros
>>69154149
yeah
>>69152973
No dude brazilians are all niggers with the same culture
>>69153963
so according to you it's a mere coincidence that the arab people living in different nations developed a similar culture, or that european nations show distinctive cultural differences based on their ethnic background?
>>69154122
blood isn't a concept with a ton of science behind it.
what is genetics?
>>69153479
WE WUZ
Holy shit spain, this is some usa-tier stupidity
>>69154182
no, its a part of the russian territory
>>69154214
>what is genetics
not a study of reproductive traits that are homogenous within a politically-defined area and distinct from neighboring politically-defined areas
this shouldn't be hard to understand if you actually studied genetics or human evolution outside of a handful of infographics
the biggest contribution europe can make going forward is its legacy. its future is irrelevant.
european civilization was more advanced than anyone else for a long time. but they've regressed into ethnic cleansing and ceaseless bickering over pointless ideas. more capable countries and regions can use the lessons of europe going forward to avoid similar problems when the stakes are even higher.
>>69154360
Going forward lol you are heading south m8
>>69154277
>there is no proof showing that your offspring is actually related to you!
>your heritage has nothing to do with your ancestors!
>genetics has nothing to do with these "coincidences"!
yeh whatever
i'm not talking about politics.. i'm talking about facts
>>69152944
>who is Marcos Senna
>>69153957
that's just wrong
>>69154432
you don't even have a job. you country couldn't be bothered to make anything. you're lucky you have soccer.
>>69154436
i'm going to give you a pass because this isn't your first language, but I'm not talking about politics either.
This whole thread is a discussion of shared identity among people who share a country (aka a politically defined area). There's no scientific justification for saying that everyone in a given non-multi-culti country has an identical genetic heritage that is distinct from people outside of that country. because that's not how genes work.
>>69154537
I'm just wainting for mexico to take over so I can fly there and be the new elite.
Make way burger.
>>69154053
>Trezeguet grew up in Argentina
jeez
>argentina
>white
pick one
>>69154623
>There's no scientific justification for saying that everyone in a given non-multi-culti country has an identical genetic heritage that is distinct from people outside of that country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup
You tell me what does it mean to be "belgian"? eating waffles?
>>69153957
>not some geographical expressions like "Belgium"
For most of its history, that's exactly what Italy was : a geographic expression.
>>69154135
>France nationalism is multirace, it's a republique nationalism, a nationalism of laws it's not the same.
It's more complicated than that. You can be a nationalist and loath the Republic, while at the same not being staunchly ethnicist. It's true that French nationalism's paramount principle is usually that of French civilization and language (regardless of political inclinations), but it's not like French blood doesn't mean a thing either.
>>69154214
>so according to you it's a mere coincidence that the arab people living in different nations developed a similar culture
Well, most Arabs have lived under pretty spread out empires for the longest time.
>>69154623
>There's no scientific justification for saying that everyone in a given non-multi-culti country has an identical genetic heritage that is distinct from people outside of that country. because that's not how genes work.
You should know well enough that *there are* natural geo-anthropological units that do tend to unify political over time.
>>69154360
>the biggest contribution europe can make going forward is its legacy. its future is irrelevant.
Europe doesn't exist, it never has. Its only unifying factor is being a market for foreign goods and its alienation from Anglo-Saxon culture.
>>69153479
I agree that muh heritage shit is annoying, but there is definitely some different cultural holdovers between the different _____-Americans.
>>69153417
>relevant sport
Eat your fush and chups and shut the fuck up Daniel
>>69153957
>its another "reddit tries to argue that culture and race are not related" episode
I hate you people. When I say "chinese person" you all think of someone who is ethnically chinese. Living outside of china does not change what they are. Imagine a chinamen claiming "I'm bulgarian" just because he grew up in bulgaria. Your passport is not your identity. Stop trying to destroy our identities.
>>69155882
>Living outside of china does not change what they are.
If they stop speaking their language and integrate to their host country, it very much does.
Colonials are obsessed with race and ethnicity because they're uprooted, lost their culture but still live in demographic pockets.
It doesn't come nearly as much to your mind when you live where you ancestors always lived, among people who still pretty much all look like yourself.
>>69155817
>relevant sport
>most popular sport
> for fags
No one was contesting the popularity of your "sport", faggot. It doesn't suddenly become less girly because lots of people like it lolz.
>>69153463
>Just Ozil and Khedira
Also Boateng, Gomez, Can, Sane, Mustafi...
>>69155227
>tend to
>over time
political boundaries have always been dynamic, and the ones we have today don't match these vague boundaries
>>69154861
hapologroups don't discount the argument whatsoever. they aren't hard boundaries the way nations are. your own country is a prime example of heterogeneity within borders and blending across borders.
you guys are retarded. you don't even undestand the arguments you are trying to coutner
>>69155882
> Living outside of china does not change what they are
If they were born and raised outside of China and don't speak Chinese, it does. For example, Jeremy Lin might be of Chinese descent, but a few seconds on wikipedia+listening to an interview with him tells you without a doubt that he's American.
>>69154861
>You tell me what does it mean to be "belgian"? eating waffles?
Their bones are actually made of waffles, that's why they keep getting injured.
>>69155882
>ethnically chinese
that's not a single ethnicity. and if it is, that's a relatively new concept. Why do you think identities have to be forged in the mid 1900s and stay static thereafter? that makes zero sense.
>>69153311
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_Final
a Turk
a half-Pole
a brown dude
eleven white Germans
wouldn't call that multicultural
>>69157276
literally is multicultural
>>69153311
All have same german culture. 3 turks doesnt change that
>>69157276
>Mustafi
>Khedira
>Ozil
>Podolski
>Klose
>Boateng
>not multicultural
>>69157379
Well all those Belgians /sp/ is bitching about have the same culture too. Witsel or Lukaku aren't Muslims are they.
>>69153036
Bilbao was 10x more interesting than any other part of your shit country when I was there.
one word
Germany
>>69152795
>you now remember Marcos Senna
>>69152795
We succeeded and we will succeed
Our domesticated niggers will bring the cup home
>>69157116
It's really strange that some "Americans" don't understand that, i mean USA have not even a "national language", and it's a young country with a short history made with ppl from all over the world.
>>69153036
reasons reasons reasons
>>69155882
i think you misquoted me or misunderstood me because that's exactly what i'm saying
>>69155227
>that's exactly what Italy was : a geographic expression.
for many aspects it stll is desu
>>69157110
>they aren't hard boundaries the way nations are
they're an imprint on what nations should be
>your own country is a prime example of heterogeneity within borders and blending across borders.
that's why in an ideal world italy is not a nation but an ethno-nationalist confederation of the italic people
the idea of "italy" as unified political entity is older than 2000 years
