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>american athletes
>spencer pratt
Glad that I don't watch this 'sport' anymore.
>>69081106
>that fatass can sprint faster than 40% of divegrass players over a 40 yard stretch
>>69081106
Too much ass
>>69081152
yeah nah
BIG
>>69081106
>still a better athlete than anyone on 4chan
>>69081152
kek, 40 percent of divegrass players can't run and/or don't have to.
>baww this fatass can run more than a minor percentage of divegrass players
>these covering CBs, holding midfielders and static centreforwards don't have to run or are too old for that though
>i-isn't that impressive?
kek, can't make this shit up
>>69081152
>
hahaha shit you are sad, this delusion
what do these guys train anyway? How to smash dummies more effectively? How much training does that take?
THICC
>>69081152
look at all that man meat
>>69081106
His job is to be a moving human wall to go against other human walls
Making fun of him is like making fun of a sumo wrestler, it's kinda pointless
>>69081152
Yep.
>Vince Wilfork 40 yard: 5.08 seconds
>The lean, shredded, greatest povertyball athlete the world has ever seen Ronaldo's 40 yard dash time: 4.7 seconds.
>Wilfork vert: 26"
>Ronaldo vert: 30"
And I bet Ronaldo's arms would snap if he tried to throw up a 500lb bench press like Wilfork.
>my job is to stop this guy from going around/through me in a 5-square-foot area
RIP me
>>69081106
>chicanos
>>69081152
every single time lmao
>>69081152
>>69081152
>Ameriblobs
And someone like Rob Gronkowski completely destroys Fagnaldo is pretty much every athletic trait you can think of aside from muh stamina.
>40 yard
Gronk: 4.61
Ronaldo: 4.7
>Vert
Gronk: 35"
Ronaldo: 30"
>Strength. Obviously in favor of Gronk.
To be fair to Fagnaldo, we have no way to compare their lateral quickness.
And Gronk is 6'6", 260lb.
>>69081327
Nope. making fun of him is a reminder that burgerball is a dumb sport in wich one-sided individual performance matters more than anything.
How much distance does he cover in an average game? I'm pretty sure he needs mostly huge burst.
>>69081550
Basically American athletes are the type that are good in all aspects of physical fitness where as divegrass players can only trot and jog for an hour and a half
>>69081592
lel handegg players would be gassed after 10 minutes if they tried playing actual football
>>69081569
>He doesn't enjoy the strategic value of a sport with specialized positions like human chess
Guess your brain's just too small, huh Pierre?
>everyone ITT using TSUnaldo as the best benchmark for a good footballer
kek
He has been crap for a few years now,and was never intended to be a good runner in the first place anyway.
>>69081635(you)
>>69081634
>implying being human ches would be a good thing
That's precisely what makes handegg so boring. every player having only one or two supposed tasks makes the overall strategy predictable, all that remains are individual moments of throws, tackles and runs while doing a military salute.
0 strategic value, it's human tic-tac-toe.
>>69081592
Pretty much.
>>69081217
>he is a better athlete than someone who isn't an athlete
>>69081692
>Never heard of the wildcat meme
>Ameridonalds
>>69081152
>try to defend vice wilfork
>I know, I'll say he is faster than soccer players
You could have talked about strength or something m8
>>69081721
>>69081550
>pretty much every athletic trait you can think of
>no stamina
ok
>not taking into account technique
ook
>>69081692
>So how difficult is it to truly master an NFL playbook? According to Redish, “it’s like trying to play a musical instrument that’s scheming against you.”
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/08/04/how-difficult-it-memorize-nfl-playbook-neurologist-explains
And these players spend as much time watching film as they do practicing. And a QB like Peyton Manning will watch 40 hours of film per week.
> He pores over game film and not just the usual film from an opponents’ last few games. He will reach back years to draw on something.
Soccer is like the fingerpainting of sports. All based primarily around "childlike" improvisation. It's why the 3rd world gravitates toward it, and why the results are highly luck based (a team can dominate possession and shots on goal and still lose on a flukey goal).
>>69081793
Fuck i'm hungry
>>69081626
and divegrass players would die if they tried to play American football
whats your point?
>>69081795
>not taking into account technique
This.
This is why Italy is walking all over the euro as we speak.
Good technical players beat individual performers easily, especially in football. That's why Germany shat on Brazil and Argentine in the last WC to.
>>69081848
that they are not superior in every physical aspect you dumb ameridumb
>>69081815
>Amerifat "athletes" train by watching movies
top kek you can't make this shit up
I don't think its fair to compare any human being to Gronk
>>69081692
If u know so much about football strategy why don't u explain to everyone each formation and how and when to use it
Yuropoors forget linemen are pro athletes, not your average fat fucks. They have massive strength and incredible bursts of speed for their size.
The only athleticism required in soccer is the ability to jog/stand around for 90 minutes
>>69081106
VERY fast amerilard running at incredible hihg speed
>>69081106
the literal point of him being a fatass is being able to be a moving train. He can still run faster, hit harder, etc. than athletes from other sports
>all these Americucks so quick to defend their big fat niggers
>>69081920
Being able to see your dick is also a requirement
>>69081951
for like 2 seconds, so long as he gets his commercial breaks between each play
>>69081920
>The only athleticism required in soccer is the ability to jog/stand around for 90 minutes
what's funny is that amerilards literally and unironically believe this
>>69081969
I'm not saying you are wrong, but have to go back anyway, you disgusting chicano.
There is no Murican athlete more alfa then this boy
>>69081106
>implying he wouldn't fuck you up.
>>69081550
>american athletes
>white
stop deluding yourself.
>>69081330
>Ronaldo
>4.7
Holy shit are soccer players really this slow?
>>69081969
They have to defend ther wives' sons' fathers
>>69081951
Please realize that muscles are heavier than fat and provides more speed and stamina
>>69081868
they are overall better athletes than soccer players yes
>>69081330
i'd thought ronaldo would cover 40 yards in 4.2 seconds at most
>>69081154
what's a matter, don't like Hottentots?
>>69081626
I think their workouts are as demanding as a divegrass match.
>>69082001
What about jj
>>69082050
kek they actually seriously literally believe us
>>69081550
Mirin those natty gains top left.
>>69082059
the point is that the sports are fundamentally different so comparing their physical aspects is just stupid
it's like comparing a 100 meter sprinter to a cycler
>>69081330
Ronaldo usually runs in zigzags though, he's much faster at that.
Try comparing players who actually run in straight lines most of the time. Bale, Robben, Valencia.
>>69082041
It's pretty hard to swell up to 350 lbs with just pure muscle.
>>69081795
>>69081855
>technique
This depends on the position. Some positions like CB, QB or OT are extremely technical while others like NT are not.
>>69081550
If all you Amerifats care about is strength then Europeans are king because they win a majority of the Strongman competitions
>>69081920
You forget that linemen need to skill because all they do is being moving objects
You need to be a fat fuck who runs faster than other fat fucks
You dont even need a properly functioning brain, as soon as someone is able to train monekys so that they perform the simple tasks a lineman does you'll start to see literal apes on the field
>>69081920
>>69082128
*need no skill
>JJ Watt is natty.
>>69082003
Yep.
There was this silly Yuropoor show that "tested Ronaldo to the limit," (the reverent tone throughout it was comical as the Yuro commentator was basically in awe of Ronaldo's 3.61 25m dash time and his 30" running vertical), and from his 25m dash time, it's estimated he would probably run the 40 in about 4.64-4.70 seconds.
>It’s a safe estimate to say Cristiano could run the 40 yard dash between 4.64-4.70
https://xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/how-fast-could-cristiano-ronaldo-run-the-nfl-40-yard-dash/
Ronaldo's fastest in game speed is 20.87 mph.
> Ronaldo’s top speed, according to FIFA,is 33.6 kph, or 20.87 mph
Here's Mike Trout running faster:
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v260048283/2015-asg-statcast-tracks-trouts-basestealing-speed
>>69081626
Everyother faggot can pick a ball and play in their Thursday Night amateur soccer leage without doing much else than jogging everyother day, if you try to play american Football at any level of competition without Training 2.5 hours a day everyday you will regret it big time, you really have no idea how physically demanding Football is
>>69082128
Offensive linemen do need skill. If you look at a GOAT like Joe Thomas he's not even the strongest or fattest lineman but his technique (blocking + footwork) is out of this world, not to mention his smarts.
>>69082119
Even goalkeepers are required to have an high level of technique anon, it doesent depend on the role
>>69082178
I don't think you've ever seen someone who has never played football try it for the first time before
>>69082128
>>69082186
Seriously. Look up Jeff Saturday and what an average center's role is in the NFL. It's really fucking cerebral. Knowing what kind of blitz is coming and who to pick up can be difficult.
Meanwhile povertyflop twink manlet players need to run around for 90 minutes and kick a ball into the net. No strategy required.
Do you not see that massive muscular thigh. In a split second burst he'd rape Messi's whole buttcheeks.
>>69082191
In American football it does. Some of the positions are so different from each other they might as well be playing a different sport, nose tackles and cornerbacks are nothing alike.
>>69082128
The offensive Line is by far the most important unit in Football anyone who disagrees obviously knows shit about it and should be quiet
Seriously though, Mt. Wilfork is the wrong one to joke with. The man continues to dominate the largest men on earth on a continual basis.
>Ball sports
>>69082186
Being adept at blocking is not as demanding as being able to control, run and kick with precision a ball with your feet only
It requires much more training simply because it is less instinctive
It's a complex task that requires continous control of your body, the ball and at the same time awareness of what's going to happen around you
On top of that you dont stop every two minutes for commercials, so come on
>>69082191
>fall over with your arms extended and hope you guessed correctly
>high level of technique
>>69081106
i know they are stronger and more athletic than i am, but do nfl fatties longer stamina than i do
>>69082230
Offensive linemen and centers especially are criminally underrated even by many Americans on this board, because most people here experienced football only on high school level where it's pretty much "fattest guy in the trenches wins."
The presnap reads and blocking audibles centers do are often more complex and cerebral than QB's work yet they seem to get no credit.
This is not an excuse to get fat like a pig
>>69082301
>run in a straight line untile you stop something or something stops you
>while occasionally carrying an egg
>high level of technique
>>69082300
Learning to block your opponent without holding him is extremely skill demanding. There's a reason why these guys are the 2nd highest paid position after QBs, they wouldn't be if teams could just pick any random fatass / gym rat off the street.
>>69082093
They're really not much faster. Ronaldo is still the 6th fastest soccer player on Earth.
In the NFL or even in baseball, he would average-to-below average speed.
>>69082238
that tub of lard would fall on his ass trying to catch messi running around him
>but muh strength
>but muh speed
doesn't matter when have the agility of a truck
>>69082300
Two different body types.
Watch footage on John Hannah, unreal man.
>>69082358
forgot pic.
>>69082362
yeah he was great in The Mummy
>>69082097
Excuses, you guys are just not trying hard enough
>>69082388
Oh well nvm then
>>69082360
Wilfork and defensive lineman still need to have reasonable agility to try and limit running backs.
And someone like Barry Sanders would absolutely crucify Messi in any straight agility competition you can think of: shuttle course, zig zag course, cone drill, etc, etc.
>>69082360
He'd snap Messi in half.
>>69082216
Please 90% of people never go beyond empirically learning soccer, meaning going to a park and play with their neigborhood friends, and many people un their 20s and shit still play in amateur leagues without any formal Training, those things simply cannot happen in Football, the required preparation alone should be an indicator of how much more physical and technical it is than soccer
>Human """""""""athletes"""""""""""
>>69082216
Please 90% of people never go beyond empirically learning soccer, meaning going to a park and play with their neigborhood friends, and many people un their 20s and shit still play in amateur leagues without any formal Training, those things simply cannot happen in Football, the required preparation alone should be an indicator of how much more physical and technical it is than soccer
>mildly banterous bait in OP
>thread is full of Ameriblobs talking about how strong and sexy their black athletes are
fucking hell
>>69082459
Winner
>>69082301
>gk requires no skill
There's a reason why Buffon is still dominant at 38 and why keksillas is done at 33
Occasional reminder that football fans are either rednecks and simpletons (both usually).
>>69082458
the ability to precisely kick and control a ball is something that takes practice
a random guy without training would look like an idiot in any league match, no matter how low the level is
>>69082535
Practice usually aquired on an informal setting, besides it really isnt that hard, i can do it and i dont play soccer regularly, learned as a Boy, playing with friends as preetty much everyone else
>>69082611
if it's so easy then why didn't you become a pro?
>White people arguing about which minority produces better athletes
Why do povertyball fans always shift the debate to skill?
We're talking about overall athleticism, and the prevailing, highly retarded, idea among povertyball fans is that fat=unathletic.
When in fact, a lot of these "fatball" players can run as fast and jump as high as any soccer player, despite weighing 150 more pounds on average.
>muh stamina
Yes, soccer players have that obviously, but I could easily reply with muh strength in favor of the linemen.
And the position players who are more similar to soccer players in body type absolutely thrash the elite of the elite soccer athletes (Ronaldo, Bale, Walcott, Sterling in pretty much everything aside from stamina, which they wouldn't even be that much behind in since a lot of NFL players did run track. Also, stamina is the easiest thing to train up. Go to any running forum and see how couch potatoes went from barely being able to walk a mile to running 6 minute miles in a couple of months.
>>69082633
no need to be defensive, we're just making fun of a fat black guy.
REAL SPORTS AREN'T DECIDED BY "ATHLETICISM" YOU FAT CUNTS.
FOOTBALL IS ART IT IS FLUID IT IS BEAUTIFUL. NO ONE CARES THAT MESSI IS SHORT, HE IS A GOD GIVEN TALENT.
>>69082633
>Why do povertyball fans always shift the debate to skill?
Because that's what matters most in football, not overall athleic performance. Footballets are not especially good runners because they don't need to.
A more accurate and interesting comparision in terms of physical skills would be american football and rugby.
>>69082631
>white people
What makes you think I'm white?
>>69082633
>Why do povertyball fans always shift the debate to skill?
because skill is an important factor in football, while in handegg you literally only need to be big and strong
>>69082678
>quarterbacks
>corner
>wide receivers
>"only big and strong"
Please stop talking about sports you know fuck all about.
>>69082388
That's the speed with the ball you retard.
>>69082677
Proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation?
>>69082630
Not him.
He actually didn't do shit, he's just saying crap to impress his internet buddies.
>>69082706
Most Americans on /sp/ are black, this isn't fucking /pol/.
>>69081330
Tfw ur as fast as Ronaldo :D
>>69082676
But this debate usually doesn't center around skill.
The shitpost usually goes like this:
- Yuro (or Mexican living in America) posts pic of fat American NFL player, greentexting American "athletes."
- American enters and shows Yuro that these fatasses are just as athletic as a lot of soccer players.
- Yuro then starts talking about skills, commercials, etc.
>>69082693
>Please stop talking about sports you know fuck all about.
Same to you, mister big black American.
>>69082724
>Ameriniggers
>>69082630
Getting to pro level in any Sport is ridicously hard, that really is not a valid argument, do not hyperbolize your way out of the discussion, sure every profesional soccer player out there worked insanely hard to get to that level, but so did every Football, rugby, basketball or pro ping pong player, point is if i wanted i could join my coworkers Thursday soccer Team like it aint no thing but there are no casual Football teams because its way more demanding
>>69082758
>athleticism is being strong and running fast in a straight line
literally lmao'ing right now
>>69082758
>- American enters and shows Yuro that these fatasses are just as athletic as a lot of soccer players.
This is my favorite part, funny every time.
>>69082694
Oh w8, in soccer they don't carry the ball around with their hands?
Kek amerifats
>>69082799
>athleticism is maintaining a slow jog for 45 minutes
>>69081152
>be american
>be retarded
>be obese
>get shot
>>69082801
0-2
>>69082168
>safe estimate
Oh fuck off.
>>69081330
If renaldo is really a 4.7 then he should be embarrassed
>>69082794
you're the one who brought up amateurs in the first place, pablo, and they really don't have any place in this """"""""""""dicussion"""""""""""" about professional sportsmen
>>69082824
>get btfo by facts
>"s-stupid Americans"
lol, I mean I'll take this shit from Europeans that live in functioning countries, but fucking Brazil? You might as well live in fucking Africa.
>>69082860
>>69082841
>one of the best players of his generation should be ashamed because he can't go fast in a straight line
Why should he work on that if he has no need for it? Should a marathon runner be ashamed of not being able to throw a javeline or lift weights?
This sort of speed is pointless in football because you can't go in a straight line in the first place.
It's over. Just Imagine Barry Sanders on the pitch. Our blacks are amazing. Fuck we built our country off them. Appreciate.
>>69082860
>""facts"" by bias Amerinigger media sponsored by Coca Cola®, McDonalds® and Burger King®
>>69082890
>This sort of speed is pointless in football because you can't go in a straight line in the first place.
literally this
it's why players like valencia and walcott are shit 90% of the time
there's a reason why they're called pacebabbies
>>69082904
KEK BTFO
>Christiano Ronaldo's vertical is 30(thirty) inches
Ronnie confirmed for white
>>69082904
>no counter argument
>"B-BIASED"
Explain how.
>>69082904
Get out of my country you fucking leech.
>>69082890
NFL players don't usually just run in a straight line either, it's just a baseline way to test speed.
There are literally university students that are more fit than Ronaldo
>he doesn't accept people no matter their size
sizist shitlord
>>69082900
>Fuck we built our country off them.
>at the height of slavery about 1% of all cotton was gathered by them
>they were replaced by simple machinery
Oh yeah. They built that country alright.
>>69082957
>being offended by people insulting commercials
>>69082859
It all started with you saying nfl players wouldnt last 10 minutes in a futbol Match, and well no you are wrong, if you can play american Football then you can hold yourself just Fine in soccer, cause its simpler Sport, less physically demanding and kicking a ball is not really that difficult you can get a hold of it quite fast
>>69082900
That said, the greatest big man was white & a New England Patriot.
>>69082970
>FSU
is this the american version of TSU?
>>69081106
Look how small his feet are, low arches too
If this is him at his peak he wont make 60
Also why is he completely shaven?
>>69082993
Larry Allen was a million times better than John Hannah.
>>69082957
I will move back to Canada once I have finished my degree. It's so funny that all the stupid students are Amerifats and all the smart ones are foreigners lmao
>>69082974
Yeah I don't know what that dumb nigger is taking about, to the slaves' credit though, they were bred like race horses and show dogs
>>69083013
You won't be able to go back, you'll get apprehended at the border and impaled for not being white.
>>69081692
>every player having only one or two supposed tasks makes the overall strategy predictable
>>69082988
You're kidding. In a competitive match soccer is 90 minutes of low-high intensity workout.
Fatass in OP would get a heart attack.
dumb frogposter
>>69082988
>if you can play american Football then you can hold yourself just Fine in soccer
no, you really can't
even without taking skill into consideration you severaly underestimate the amount of running you do in a pro match, and also keep in mind most of that running is done by sprinting
>>69083010
Strength wise, but Hannah had it all over him in the athletic department. Pull, cut, quick push to the second level. Anything you wanted.
>>69082993
IIRC Bruce Matthews never played for the Patriots.
>>69082970
>that dumb nigger
>a real student
>FSU
>a real university
pick one wew
>>69081912
but soccer players do the same thing nigel. take your proxy off
>>69082993
>greatest big man
>a fucking guard
Nope. OT or nothing.
>>69082904
Don't forget Budweiser, The King of Beers, anon
>>69083084
Maybe in today's passing game.
>>69081330
How long can that diabetesball player keep it up for? Because He sure as hell can't do it many times over a 90, sometimes 120 minute period.
And Football players in a counterattack have to sprint for nearly 70 meters, more than the fatass that will get his feet cut off when he turns 45 years old.
>>69083006
i wish
>>69082964
And again, speed in itself is useless in football. In the sport as it is today, lateral mobility and endurence matter a lot more. A fast player can be useful but he won't get anything done by himself because no matter how fast he is, he'll have to slow down because he'll get marked by three defenders by the time he gets close enough to the penalty box to strike. It can work if you use the sides to istract the defense. that's how the netherland play (with Robben being the runner and striker) or how France did at one point (with Cissé) but it's far from being the most efficient tactic there is.
The reason why skill and other things are brought up when it comes to footballers is because the agility matters much more than speed. Speed doesn't get you rid of two guys stcking to you when you get close to the goat, speed doesn't shoot on target in a spor that the goalkeeper won't be able to put himself into. Running speed is really a lesser element in football.
>>69082988
>if you can play american Football then you can hold yourself just Fine in soccer,
the big problem is endurance. American football players are much more elite in many categories of athleticism but they don't train for marathons, they train for sprints. The lack of endurance is a killer.
>>69082694
Nope. Watch Robben's sprint. He was on a dead sprint (running down the ball) for a good 40 yards.
>>69082931
DAMAGE CONTROL. Soccerfags BTFO
>h-he doesn't NEED to be fast, no soccer player does!
> the field is only 110m, there's no room to run in a straight line
>>69082678
That's the most retarded thing I've heard in a while. You really have no clue what you're talking about.
>>69083052
And a sawker fairy would get his spine snapped like a twig if they tried to block him on the gridiron, what's your point?
>>69083148
Depends on the position.
Imagine running 50 yards full sprint, backwards, sixty to seventy times a game. You are now a defensive back.
why do americans invent all these strange little metrics
why can't they just focus on the skill of the athlete in their sport?
>>69083178
It's actually true, the only time you need to be fast is when you play a quick counter and that doesn't happen that often in the top level, you have no idea what you are talking about, please refrain from talking any further.
Someone wanna post that thick gymnastics chicks pictures from last year?
>>69083206
Both sports require skill
>>69083206
It's Handegg. The greatest sport known to man.
It's basically War the game.
Takes many different weapons to get the job done.
>>69083135
As much as you povertyball fans use muh stamina and I can use muh strength.
>How long would a midget like pic related last on a defense line?
One play and then he's carted off to the hospital.
>>69083171
He run around the defender in the first half and pretty sure it is taken in account only after he did 3 touch.
>>69083209
>the only time you need to be fast is when you play a quick counter
And that's still just relatively fast because you can't overtake the guy with the ball (which isn't running top speed either due to having to handle the ball).
>>69081998
Australia's Brave Christian Vieri
>America
>most Olympic medals by far
>most Olympic golds by far
>Is able to compete at a high level on the world scale in a sport that's probably like, the 7th or 8th most popular sport in the country
>yurop beliveing their top tier athletes can compete with Americas top tier athletes even though literally all evidence points away from that
M-MUH STAMINA. Stamina is not a fucking skill. Any idiot on earth can get in shape and run a marathon after a half a years worth of training.There is nothing athletic about "stamina" unless in relation too a sport like Boxing, where you are actively taking large hits.
>>69083237
"Roid Rage: The Game"
>>69083146
All of that is true of gridiron as well, lateral movement, change of direction, hip/lower body flexibility, etc. are just as important as top-end speed. Just that the baseline for speed is higher in gridiron (on average, obviously not if you're just talking linemen).
>>69082343
> what is stiff arm
> what is spin move
> what is juking
> technical skills all ball carriers should learn
>>69083209
So this proves our point that an NFL lineman are more overall athletic than povertyball players?
All you can really deflect back to is muh stamina, the EASIEST athletic attribute to train up.
>>69083198
if anything 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLBs probably need the most endurance. They don't cover as much ground as corners but they are constantly switching between grinding with 300 pound men and chasing down ball carriers.
>>69083275
I would argue some soccer players are on the sauce as well.
>>69083206
Handegg at the NFL level requires a much broader range of skills than top level soccer.
>>69083243
Why would you put a fitter person on a defensive line anyway, you would need a mindless tub of lard that can crash into things.
And football won't all retire with horrible brain damage like many handegg players, nor will they die of diabetes 10 years afterwards because they are encouraged to be fat motherfuckers and that will only get worse once they retire.
>>69082970
Shit there's high school kids with far better raw athleticism.
>>69083332
>JJ Watt
>>69083267
>stamina makes you more resistent do damage
>>69083305
They also stop resting every 10s. We're talking of a game with a timed 15 minutes of actual action over three hours.
>>69083227
football has some low skill positions. Running back and WR are positions you constantly see players converted to.
but then you have QB which is a position with such a demand for refined skill and mechanics that teams spend 20 million for guys that can just provide you mediocrity at the position.
Hey hey america look at this Aubameyang is faster than Bolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZXUse86r1g
No it's not biased at all !
>>69083332
>And football won't all retire with horrible brain damage like many handegg players, nor will they die of diabetes 10 years afterwards because they are encouraged to be fat motherfuckers and that will only get worse once they retire.
Friendly reminder that divegrass has (by far) the highest instance of ALS among retired professionals. All dem flops add up I guess.
>>69083300
I'd like to see the guy in the OP make a clearence like Boateng did in the EC against Ukraine or try to keep up with Messi dribbling past him.
>>69082301
So much this. It's either they have predetermined where to jump or they collapse on the ground trying to block a ground ball even though they go between their legs half the time
>>69083332
>And football won't all retire with horrible brain damage
So this also proves it's a tougher sport?
Not to mention the coaching.
In no other sport does it really matter more than Handegg.
>>69083332
>mindless tub of lard
>>69083376
it's a byproduct of banging your head against a ball and occasionally another head.
parents that are trying to get their kids in soccer because it's safer probably have no idea it's only slightly safer.
>our heavily roided athletes are so much better than yours xD
every tiem
>>69083346
Then if you use JJ Watt as an example, why are there so many players like the one in the OP, and not all of them look like JJ Watt?
He's just an exception, the fact that those fat fucks can play any sport competitively at all is ridiculous.
>>69083332
Putting on fat is an important part of the sport. Think of Sumo Wrestlers and ask why they are fat? It adds weight and leverage to your body, and the body also needs fat if you want to pack on muscle for being ludicrously strong.
I dont think you guys comprehend how absolutely atheltic these "fat" guys are. Vince Wilfork can run a 40 yard dash in 5 seconds. Think about how much energy that he can produce with that much weight and strength.
Also, you guys severely underestimate how incredibly complex Gridiron is. In soccer, the coach is kind of just there to make sure the players play well and to stroke egos, it's similar in a lot of ways to basketball. It's a sport where if you have the best players, you are generally going to win. In football, the coach is the general, and quite possibly the most important person on the team. A good coach can win games with a bad team while a bad coach can lose games for a good team just because of how important the strategy elements are.
>>69083383
And I'd like to see any of those fags get around a 330 lb O Lineman with or without pads
>>69083350
>implying there's 15 minutes of actual action in a 90 minute sawker game
lol, if all that time in between plays, when handegg players are milling about or jogging on/off the field doesn't count, than neither does all that time sawker players spend strolling around the pitch.
>>69083428
>it's a byproduct of banging your head against a ball and occasionally another head.
There is no danger in heading a ball you numbfuck
>>69083428
There's no concrete, known cause, because no one knows exactly what causes ALS. Leading theory is that it's a result of being dehydrated regularly.
>>69083441
>the game plan doesn't matter in sports I don't understand
EVERY TIME
>>69083430
>our
>yours
>>69083321
>>69083237
>I can jump slightly higher than you
You are all such fucking losers it's ridiculous..
>>69083485
my hunch is choline depletion in endurance athletes
>>69083440
Watt is a defensive end, used to rush the QB primarily. Wilfork is a NT, used to clog up blockers & create an impenetrable pile in the middle.
Cortez Kennedy was a great, who recently went into the HoF. He did both. Highly underrated.
>>69083441
>the coach is kind of just there to make sure the players play well and to stroke egos
>I don't know anything about football: The Post
>>69083440
Wilfork isn't a DE end.
JJ Watt is DE/OLB.
>>69083514
All of which play the defensive line.
>>69083440
OP posted a nose tackle, which is the only position where it is practical to be that fat.
Nose tackles mostly have one job: be so big and strong that it takes two people to block you.
>>69081106
The strain that this ridiculous build takes on their body should be respected a bit more. These aren't fatties playing athletes, these are athletes who sacrifice everything for more force so as to compete with the arms race that is the line. They don't get to look good or show off like the other positions and their body ends up more fucked than any other position in the sport once they retire but there is no one else in the world who can do what a lineman does.
>>69083488
Im not implying that game plans dont matter, but the vast difference between soccer and gridiron is astronomical, and the real eye opener is how important the coach is.
Football coaches are probably the most important people for a team. Soccer coaches are just kind of there to make sure egos dont get in the way. It's the same with Basketball, Hockey, other sports that have very complex play structures, but arent really all that complex.
>>69083499
>le 7 putt man
>>69083539
And all of them do different things on the DL.
>>69083209
>>69083252
I guess you're right because anytime there is a break away, the ball handler falls to the ground on first contact with a defender. They don't even try to get around him the just want the free kick
That does not mean being faster than everyone else isn't important at all. That makes 0 sense. Being the first player to the ball is a big advantage, is it not?
>>69081692
>tic-tac-toe
Pic related is an AMATEUR playbook. NFL gets even more complicated.
>>69083348
He doesn't sound like he knows what hes talking about but taking a hit does actually mess with your stamina. Stamina is also important for focusing while you're seeing stars from getting punched over and over, whether its through your guard or not.
>>69083555
>playing sport in america involves getting as fat as possible to have a competitive edge
yep, sounds about right
>>69083440
You said defensive linemen, not just NTs. Face it you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>69083566
>basketball and hockey don't have complex play structures
>only sports I understand well have complex play structures
AS OLD AS TIME
>>69083441
>italy in the european
>absolute shit players
>still winning
>ITT: gringcucks on pooicide watch
KEK
E
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>>69083440
Different positions, plus JJ Watt is a freak of nature
>>69083440
Because JJ Watt is primarily a defensive end, and thus has a typical defensive end build, since speed is very important at the position.
Wilfork is an interior defensive lineman, a position where bulk is more of a priority.
Watt sometimes plays interior, but he probably wouldn't last a season full time. Ripped looking Arnold Schwarzenegger types would be too small.
>>69081330
>ronaldo runs a 40 in 4.7
I literally run the 40 in 4.7 too, and I haven't been an athlete since high school, thats pretty pathetic
>>69083586
Same principle as sumo or weight lifting.
>yuropoors try to get Americans butthurt
>end up gettinf butthurt themselves
>>69082417
its far easier and you get the result you want with just building a fuckton of muscle and then adding a layer or fat on top for extra oomph
>>69083586
Ya, he's fat, but he's not weak. That's like saying a strong man is just a fat fuck because he has a lot of bodymass.
>>69083376
>ALS is the only kind of brain damage
We don't even know what exactly causes ALS, and there have been people bringing CTE to attention in handegg for a while now, which is caused by smashing your head against solid objects, or just look at the difference on football players retired because of CTE caused by concussions to handegg players retired because of them.
>>69081330
>>69083621
Isn't Ronaldo's 40 time in meters though?
>>69082119
NTs dont just brute strength their way through things my man, each posisition has its own techniques that require alot of practice to become proficient at
>amerifats try to get Europeans butthurt
>end up gettinf butthurt themselves
>>69083441
Not really, no.
that's why Germany is the current world champion and why Portugal, Spain, Argentine and Brazil are often disappointing.
>>69082119
>NT
>not technical
Just stop
>>69081692
>tic tac toe
>nfl
there are plenty of things to criticize about the nfl and watching the games but for the love of god, strategic depth is not one of them
>>69083593
Tell me why Phil Jackson, who was never a good coach was able to win a billion titles.
NFL coaches are way way way more important then any other sports coaches I can think of. I watch a lot of basketball and hockey too ya dingus
