Honest question /sp/
If players were unable to get injured, who would be the GOATs instead of some current ones?
In other words, what players were GOAT potential but were held back by constant injuries?
Marco Van Basten
![man-utd-winger-hunt-arjen-robben-bayern-munich_1c8po6917ewu517mn2gmxzzz37[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uUn1CSV.jpg "man-utd-winger-hunt-arjen-robben-bayern-munich_1c8po6917ewu517mn2gmxzzz37[1].jpg")
>The literal embodiment of the term 'glass cannon'
Why do people on this site love to argue about hypothetical nonsense?
still TSU
ronaldo
Keirrison
Kerlon Foquinha
Boquita
Lulinha
Ledley King
Vela
>>69059741
Fat Ron, no question about it.
Ronaldo by far. He was GOAT in Barça and Inter
Arsenal
>>69059767
This. It's literally impossible to argue for/against since it's pure speculation.
Rooney looked like a Messi-tier talent but then it turned out he peaked before turning 23. Same thing might've happened to a lot of "injured GOATs"
Ronaldo
>>69059741
For baseball it would be Griffey Jr.
Fat Ronaldo
Radamel Falcao
Abou Diaby
Yoann Gourcuff
>>69059767
Let's give you a different one Argentina.
What if your country's biggest Legend pussies out of the national team and vows to no longer play for them because of losing too many games, who would you replace him with when you only have shit choices?
>>69059842
Falcao problem was leaving Porto for fucking Atletico.
>>69059886
Falcao's problem was leaving Atlético for fucking Monaco.
Players like Van Basten, Baggio, Ronaldo are GOATs despite the injuries, they are not 'what if'
Falcao, Adriano, those are 'what if'
Torres.
>>69059831
How do you get injured in Baseball?
And more than that, how do you constantly get injured that it actually affects your career?
>>69059985
he probably overate and injured his jaw muscles consistently, if you're not fat you can't play boreball so with his lack of eating prowess he was ejected
For the U.S., he ends up being our best. The prototypical "couldn't stay healthy" player.
>>69059741
Ronaldhinho,
The injuries his pelvic bone suffered from theses hoe prevented him to be GOAT.
Len Bias
>>69059741
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8fANDq_qc
>just think what he will be like when he grows up
RIP
>>69060089
those shin pads
>>69059753
This
>>69059810
Ferguson ruined Rooney by making him a boring player
R9 and Van Basten.
Is this even up for debate?
>>69059934
This
Also add Savicevic to that list
>>69060036
How has nobody posted Pato yet?
Ronaldo, obviously. Even with his exploding knees he's the GOAT.
>>69060701
>le albanian milan bandwagoner
pato was never good
how do you get injured in that soccer? lol
>>69059741
Van basten
>>69059741
Ronaldo
>>69060777
There isn't really much protection for the speeds some collisions and falls occur.
>>69060765
>pato was never good
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXnNpQMsDq8
Brolin was a world class player
ruined his career after broken his foot
The forgotten man Owen Hargreaves
>>69059766
If this guy hadn't been injured right before the 2010 World Cup, the Netherlands would have won it
Kaka was a God before he got hurt
>>69059741
Badstuber
Arjen van Robben
>>69061876
F R U I T P A S T I L L E S
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P A S T I L L E S
>>69060838
meme goal
Wouldn't of been a GOAT player but he was a superb box to box midfielder who could bust out the odd blooter but after he came back from a long term injury he was a shadow of the player he once was. Plays in the Greek league now posting vidoes of himself singing along to reggae music on snapchat.
>>69059767
>Why do people like to talk sports?
>>69059792
>>69059766
>>69060036
>>69062067
For my country it would be Luc Nilis, he would have been a great tandem with Wilmots on the WC 2002.
>>69059854
amara rage dude come down its just a post u don't have to be mad lol maybe u can try again to beat the goat another time
Alvaro Recoba
>>69062314
I agree
>>69059753
This, Ronaldo R9 or Messi.
>>69062554
he was on tv some time ago talking about his past gambling addiction. made me feel bad man
Batistuta desu
pablo escobar
Derrick Rose
This dude, probably would of had best player of the year 2000 and 2001, what he did post injury was incredible. It's unimaginable what he could of accomplished or done without his injuries.
Ricardo Kaka had a pretty bad injury when he was 18 I think.
He had quite a lot of injuries any way
>>69062067
He was already hurt his whole career from that spine injury.
Inb4 "full recovery"
Nobody 100% completely recovers from such injuries.
>>69062615
holy shit Canada, what the fuck did you even say
Ronaldo was CR/Messi material.
Van Basten would not be GOAT level but he's one of the GOATs among strikers nonetheless.
Robben might have been regarded as the undisputed #3 of the Messi/CR era.
Derrick fucking Rose
> literally the only man who could have stopped lelbron's heat
> league mvp before the age of 25
>inb4 LEAGUE MVP IS MEME AWARD
>>69063082
why the fuck people insist on using his nickname as if it was his surname?
>>69059741
Hockey would be a much more difficult call. If Orr's knees didn't explode and Lemieux didn't get Cancer they'd have been right there with Gretzky.
Neely could have been great too but he was never the same after Ulf took his knees out and had to retire very early. Not GOAT level but very elite.
Abou Diaby ;_;7
>>69063192
Because my childhood best friend was named Ricardo and every time I type it out I get reminded of those good times.
>>69059767
Autism
>>69059741
Kaka
>>69062184
>top 5 fastest goal in the competition's history
>meme
Sure thing Ruud
>>69063149
He was already #3 with extreme amounts of injurys and he is arguably just as dangerous in big games, he would be better than ronaldo and rival messi without all the injuries imo.
Van Persie one of them i guess
>>69062067
>Kaka was a God before he left Milan
Fixed
Kaka was one of those Milan Greats that went to shit as soon as they left Milan...just like Sheva
>>69063192
This is how everyone calls him
>>69063149
>Ronaldo was CR/Messi material.
Ronaldo was much better than these 2 shitters
Van Basten IS one of the GOAT's
He's the only one who won the Dutch NT something
Heck Dutch people still argue if he or Cruyff is better
>Robben
Meme player
Sneijder was much better
Kafka
>>69060029
Or you play 162 games in 180 days.
Yoann Gourcuff , not even joking or mentioning him because he is French , dude was the real deal.
>>69064037
Please tell me you aren't the same albanian guy defending Pato who was literally never good while calling Robben a meme player.
>>69059779
>Lulinha
That guy was GOAT in FIFA 08 career mode, was he really this hyped up IRL?
>>69064037
those 2 shitters outperformed every other single fucking player, scoring 50+ goals even without playing as striker for almost a decade during arguably the most competitive era of football.
Ronaldo had shown intro pages what the other 2 filled fucking books.
Van Basten is clearly top 20. Not every man would agree he was top 4-5.
>>69064000
this is not an answer to my question. you clearly are a mentally handicapped person. i will not be replying to you and risk you have a seizure or something. take care buddy!
>>69064204
Why is this the most competitive era?
>>69064304
Talent pool gets bigger, young players given academy education, there is more money so less talented youngsters have the need to leave football during young ages. More lower level teams have access to adequate training facilities. Those things add up. Maradona was giving coke parties during the mid week. Ronaldo and Messi play 2 games a week and if they slip in terms of fitness or concentration the likes of Müller, Ibra et al would rape their corpses.
One thing Maradona had to suffer was much more murderous defenders as the rules permitted it but that's not enough to call 80s football more competitive in my book.
>>69064037
Come on, if Robben was injury free, he would be far better than Sneijder could ever dream of.
>>69063956
No, he was already broken before leaving Milan.
>>6905753
this, Ronaldo9 and Del Piero.
possibly rossi too
>>69059934
yeah but ronaldo got fatter and slower after the injury. it' obvious that he would have been better had he not broken his knee
>>69064528
His last year at Milan was decent enough for me.
I forgave him.
Gazza
>>69063149
don't compare CR with ronaldo or messi, come on
>>69059784
This guy was born to be a meme
Bo Jackson
Any sport. All sports.
>>69062860
>R9
kys meme
>>69064204
>arguably the most competitive era of football.
No it is not you dumb fuck
Nesta at 36 owned your autistic midget
Nesta at 22 couldn't stop Ronaldo
Is Van Persie the most injury prone?
>>69065256
No, Robben is
>>69065256
forgot to add:
Here's his injury list from 2008-2011
January 2008 to March 2008
April 2008
August 2008 to September 2008
December 2008
March 2009 to April 2009
April 2009 to May 2009
April 2010 to September 2010
September 2010 to November 2010
February 2011 to March 2011
>>69065234
>defenders peak at 22
those two are better players, but ronaldo is a better forward imho
>>69064119
Do you even know what thread we're in here?
Pato was one of those extremely talented players who failed due to
1.Injuries
2.Playing in a mess of a team full of old fucks
3.MilanLab fucking up his muscles
4.Ronaldinho's bad influence on him(partying,drinking etc.)
5.The club spoiling him
If you had actually seen him play consistently you would know just how talented he was
>>69059741
Aside from Eurocuck manlets from dirt countries made of shit and corruption playing a gay game made for girls and pussies that promotes communism, atheism and homosexuality I would say Mickey Mantle although he was a manlet and a dumb redneck.
>>69064510
Sneijder struggled with injuries frequently too
That's why Real Madrid sold him back then
>>69064528
He wasn't
In 2007/08 and 2008/09 he was still good just not as good as in 2006/07
He started sucking after the big injury in Real Madrid
>>69059767
>I don't like fun
>>69064037
All the dutch people agree Cruijf is the GOAT you fucking retard
>>69065234
>>69064037
>>69063956
>>69060641
>being THIS clueless
>>69065287
Nesta was much better at 22 than at 36 this is not arguable
He was much faster back then and still hadn't gotten as much injuries back then
Ronaldo also played for a much weaker Inter than Messi's Barca(vice versa '98 Lazio shits on 2011/12 Milan)
Messi and Penaldo are nowhere even near R9
>>69059741
Easy one, pic related
Other questions Tyler ?
>>69059741
Sounds like that movie with Bruce Willis, called "Surrogates".
Also Marco Reus, Robin van Persie (showed he was pretty good when he was finally not injured for a while), Thomas Rosicky, Schweinsteiger.
And the real Ronaldo would be the maximum GOAT, holy shit man.
>>69065408
I've seen dutch people on the internet argue which player was better many times so you're wrong
The opinion usually sways toward Cruyff of course but there's still some people out there that argue Van Basten was better
>>69065276
Holy shit, I dare someone to find me a bigger injury list.
>>69059741
Not just one sport. But TWO.
How many athletes can say that?
>>69060036
The biggest injuries of Ronaldhinho come from night clubs and cerebral problems lad
Robben, his injuries are also the reason he plays like a girl
makes me sad
atm: Wilshere
also, hope Strootman stays fit
>>69065087
why not? CR left his CL winning, top-of-the-world, everything-is-in-order Man Utd for a crashed & burned RM who's up against a dynastic Barca. I'm not saying he's better than Messi but they're pretty much level desu. Messi clearly performed much better throughout his career but he never left his absolute optimum environment. CR did. If I was a manager for any club in the world, except for a few club, I'd get CR rather than Messi. Messi even could not perform for Argentina (where he even plays among other world beaters) like he did for Barca.
I repeat, I dont think CR is better than Messi. But clearly external conditions (teammates, established playing style etc.) helped Messi much more than they did for CR.
>>69065535
Pato makes him some good competition
http://www.transfermarkt.com/alexandre-pato/verletzungen/spieler/37579
Deisler
>>69065535
Not bigger yet, but Reus' list is gaining and he's only 27 while Robben is 32. And it's not like you get less injured with progressing age
>>69065809
Deisler is overrated, he was just good at the time compared to the trash we had but would be just above average nowadays, even without his major injuries, which play a considerable part of him being overrated.
>>69065363
>gay game made for girls
The guys who were playing this in the middle ages would crush you without even trying. KEK.
>>69065769
Underrated post, desu.
>>69065165
This. All of this.
>>69065363
>Mickey Mantel
Has anyone outside of America know who this is?
On topic, Ronaldo. He had Messi-like potential and even carved out a world class career post-injury
Rosicky, he was really often sick
>>69064037
>Albania
There are many Albanians shitposts lately. Is it a samefag?
>>69067771
>England
There are many English shitposts lately. Is it a samefag?
Shinji Ono
>>69065814
this
Marco Reus would be the GOAT if he wasn't always injured
Missed Brazil 2014 and France 2016 because of injuries for example.
I fear he will forgotten in a few years
>>69067672
>He had Messi-like potential
Bullshit. He had the potential to be better and he was.
Until he got injured.
>>69059916
Falcao's problem was leaving Monaco for fucking Chelsea
>>69067672
the mouse from Walt Disney ?
