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Football is back! About to kick off on ESPN 2
>>68879551
>football
>in June
gametime bump.
also hoping a canadian will join and answer questions about rules.
Time to watch the Alouettes show promise, only to blow it at the end.
>opening kickoff of the season
>goes out of bounds
this could be fun
They only get 3 downs?
>>68879676
WHY BAGGED MALK
Football again thank god
>>68879743
Yep. And 12 dudes
winston venable still play's the A's, right
Wanna bandwagon a CFL team to follow lads, who to go with?
>>68879551
the CFL has 2 teams with the same nickname.
Two. Same. Name.
>(hint) starts with R
Would be nice if the CFL adopted NCAA rules. Thats gotta be hard for players to go from NCAA to these rules.
>>68879825
what ever due North on you, dude
>Calgary
>>68879743
Only need 3 downs
>>68879825
BC LIONS
kinda depends on your timezone though
>>68879829
*had
Used to start on both sides of the ball in highschool but never went to college. Could I try out for the CFL and get on a roster?
>>68879825
REDBLACKS
>>68879881
>>68879890
I live in Georgia so eastern time zone. Dont wanna follow a shit team but not the odds on favorite to win the league either. Just a comfy contender will do.
I just don't get why leafs only have three downs. It takes a lot of strategy away from the game, to be honest. It seems like everyone just chucks it downfield way too often.
That said, this is certainly better than boreball.
>>68879900
If you were born in Canada and count as a non import player, yes.
A guy who win a 50 yard field goal challenge got a tryout.
>>68879838
Gives us Canadians an advantage though.
>>68879938
I vote Ottawa
>>68879900
They play offense and defense?
>>68879825
Eskimos, great history, warren moon etc..
>>68879825
Is your city shit? If so come cheer for hamilton or winnipeg
That single point rule is pretty cool. I can imagine how tense a punt into the endzone would be at the end of a game where the kicking team needed one point to win.
>montrelel
>>68879938
CFL isn't like NFL, games don't overlap, so you could watch every game. See if there's a team you like.
The way the rosters change, and that 6/9 teams make the playoffs, any team could conceivably win in week one. A few years ago a team started 0-5 and won the grey cup.
>>68879958
If we added a fourth down, we would have to change other rules about field size or receivers in motion.
>>68880039
I love it and the punting/kicking strategy here. Just obviously wouldn't work in the NFL with the field size.
>>68880039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5BFaykcxGg
Seeing all these linemen with single digit numbers is triggering my autism, what do?
>>68879972
>>68880003
>>68880070
Good stuff lads. I'll keep an eye on those two teams specifically. I like the Eskimo jersey colors
>manlet got heemd
>>68880039
I don't have the webm, maybe someone else does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5BFaykcxGg
when will they learn?
>>68880121
some coke?
He's gonna be dizzy after that hit.
HEEM SLEEPY
Based Canucks like their murderball
>>68880101
>sending your punter back to recover a field goal
Those Montreal jerseys are highschool tier. Winnipeg's are nice tho
>>68880247
>highschool tier
Is that good or bad?
>>68880039
agreed. Their endzone looks pretty huge too.
>weather delay
Shit
>>68880284
Bad. They're ugly and look very cheap.
Anyone get dizzy seeing that Kevin Glenn montage?
>tfw you didn't get your food ready by kickoff
>based Thor is having a storm so I can
>game stopped for player safety
>keeping a team in Winnipeg
Double standard.
>9 team league
What the hell? What's stopping one team from just becoming an unstoppable dynasty in this league?
did they just take a tornadoe break?
Well if you guys really want to watch semi-pro tier football while the weather delay is on, Arena League is on CBS Sports
Weather delay.. No bueno.
LETS GO ESKIMOS
>>68880398
I personally find arena league to be unwatchable.
>>68880398
>tfw used to go to arena games when Birmingham had a team
That and the XFL were such a meme time. I miss it
>>68880070
>started 0-5 and won the grey cup
What a time that was to be alive
>>68880332
I-I like them.
They grey one they wore for a military appreciation game was pretty neat though.
>>68880376
The Edmonton Eskimos were that in the 80's with Warren Moon
>>68880448
What's stopping a team from doing that now? Just pick up Johnny Football and run shit for years
>>68880412
I don't blame you, the worst teams in the league are REALLY bad
the best ones are pretty entertaining though
>>68880434
>tfw DC is getting a team next year
I wish I could've experience it when it was at its height. Now it's just kinda sad, but I'll still go just as an excuse to get drunk.
>>68880484
nobody is doing that with Johnny
>double header tomorrow
Oh great, it's another kickoff delayed in BC because of muh TSN episode.
>>68880513
I guess I'll give it a shot since theirs nothing else on. its been a while since i really gave it a chance.
Based canucks seem to love football. Why dont they get an NFL team? They already have NBA and MLB teams...
Any anons from Winnipeg in here?
How is the weather over there?
>>68880376
The best players go up to the NFL.
>Cameron Wake had more sacks than an entire team in the CFL
>Garcia would have had a dynasty in Calgary if he didn't go to San Francisco
>Brandon Browner had a bigger contract with the Saints than the CFL salary cap
It's also hard keeping the needed Canadian players for the ratio.
>>68879746
Thats an Eastern Canada thing. Just nuke them already, please and thanks.
>Dunigan: "Eat shit and stay in bounds you pussy"
Whos this pussy nigger talking about not getting hit in a contact sport
is it on watch espn?????
>>68880653
the deuce, and delayed
stegall on suicide watch
>>68880570
NFL would have to change their corporate structure by being international
NFL and CFL have a non compete gentleman's agreement
No public funding for the needed $1 billion stadium
Last time it was seriously considered Canadian government said they would do whatever possible to stop it
>>68880603
>Milt's face when BTFO by based Dunigan
apologize
Did Winnipeg model their brand after the Washington Huskies? The logo, the colors, even the stadiums look the exact same.
>>68880603
>>68880638
>>68880673
When you're as money as Milt you don't need to get touched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKLVJiD5w1I
>>68880714
no, based the Blue Bombers off of Jou Louis
>>68880714
that W is the same
and you're right same color scheme
>>68880484
Would he be able to adapt to the larger surface?
>>68879660
There is 3 downs, field is wider and linger
>>68880784
Nigga that would benefit him. All he does is run around the field and improvise.
>>68880752
got damn
Could Alabama or Ohio State beat the worst CFL team on a neutral field
so wait
Arbie's went to the Final their first year?
>>68879825
BC lions. We have a nice jersey.
>>68880876
How many of those College players could make the NFL? 20?
How many of those guys would make CFL? 30?
You could say the best NCAA are better than the best CFL players. Part of the reason CFL has lower talent is teams have to play Canadians. The worst American in the CFL is a lot better than the worst player in the NCAA.
I'd still take the worst CFL team. Even playing according to the NCAA.
>>68880570
If the argonauts can't get fan support it could eventually fold. Also NFL minimum seating is like 54000 and bc place is like 56k so it just slides in but the Canadian dollar is too shit to depend on.
Also Canadian government has a massive inferiority complex so it won't ever happen
>>68880823
Edmonton did it again a few years later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFuqB-iathk
>>68880885
second
>-40 during the winter
>daily lightning storms during the summer
>one million mosquitoes per capita
>native capital of Canada
How do people live in Winnipeg. Johnathon Toews must be grateful for his chance to move to Chiraq.
>>68881070
>Buck Pierce
Poor guy.
dang, how long is this storm?
>>68880570
Seahawks is enough for BC
>>68881138
>native capital
heh
>live in queerbec
>live on da rez
I hate it here already. Can't imagine what Winnipeg is like.
>>68881149
TSN thinks another 20 minutes.
>>68880697
A Canadian-European league would be awesome actually
>>68881348
we just need the YuroBowl back
>>68881348
Timezones would get a little fucked up. NFL should go back to subsidizing a league over there though.
>>68881290
Seattle, Detroit and Buffalo sell 10% of their tickets to Canadians.
>>68881290
My girlfriend just gave me the green light to buy seahawks cowboys pre season tix.
First NFL game and I actually get to see my team.
Fuck the xercucks
>>68881466
no wonder detroit and buffalo have such shit attendance
Where's Schultzy?
McManus eyes are too close
do they keep saying "tribe" because indians is now politically incorrect
>needing a fourth down
When will Americans learn
Players have returned to the field. They'll have a quick warm-up before we get underway. #CFLKickoff
I'm ready
>GROWN ASS MAN
>LCF
Just got here, what I miss?
Never followed the CFL but have a friend who was drafted by the BC Lions and I've always wondered if the team was any good. Can anyone fill me in?
Duron Carter get his shit figured out?
>>68881932
Not one of the elite teams lately
>Sutton
Actually saw that dude in the UFL
>>68881938
>tfw he never played a down for Bama
God damn it he was supposed to be ELITE
>>68881956
Is there a team in the NFL they are comparable to in terms of how they finish each year?
>>68881975
Dude went to like six different schools, might be illiterate or something.
>>68881993
Vikings maybe?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
wew Montreal
>>68881412
They have done a sort of Big Six league but it seems more like a Champions League-like than a real championship.
It is a bit messy in Europe. National leagues try to have a system with conferences but it is not justified as it is just shitty "north/south" cuts. We could have just like how it works in the Top 14 (the french main league of rugby) with a championship, then sort of wild cards with the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th, and then playoffs with the 1st and the 2nd. Even more justified with 10 teams.
We just need to wait until US football becomes really popular in Europe and having "great" (+5k per game in average) attendances so it becomes broadcasted. In France, soccer, handball, basketball, rugby, volley and ice hockey are professionnal and on TV, so why not gridiron
>Montrelel
>>68882046
So potential up and coming team?
>>68882103
Up and down team, has a veteran QB that's frequently injured but a potential young star behind him
the CP sponsor triggers me, am I alone ?
I like how CFL teams don't give a fuck about giving up a safety, rarely ever happens in 'da league
wait why the fuck would they willingly kneel in the endzone?
who /cfb/ here
also how come I dont recognize any of the players from CFB. Im quite an avid watcher (mostly SEC) and thought I would recognize some
>>68882149
Vernon Adams and Rakeem Cato are the Montreal backup QBs
>>68882149
http://en.montrealalouettes.com/roster/
http://www.bluebombers.com/roster/
>>68882141
Field position. With the uprights at the goal line and a punt going from 10 yards deep, the other team is almost always going to already be in field goal position before they return the ball.
>>68882124
How is there D line?
Don't think my friend has played a single snap in a game but I really want him to get a shot
>>68882147
seriously they could've just punted they have no faith in their defense??
>>68882147
if I understand well, they have lost two points (a safety) for doing that but send the opponants far. They judged it was better than kicking in the 30's and concede a touchdown 'cause they're too close.
But it's like they trust a lot their defence.
>>68882210
Was meant for
>>68882147
>>68880815
He might have a future here
>>68882220
>>68882227
thanks that was embarrassing I hope that team loses by two points
>>68881932
They had a good QB, but then he had injury trouble the last few years. They found another guy who can play well, and he's taken the job. They should have a good season.
They have a good defense too. Best LBs in the league.
>>68882251
At least if they can stay healthy. Biggy and Sol E are going to blow people the fuck up
>>68882149
Elite SEC goes to the NFL. CFL gets Mountain West and Confrence USA players.
>>68882216
As said earlier, goal posts are on the goal line, not the end line. Also, there's no fair catch, but a 5 yard receiving area. So punt returns usually get more yards, and they're already in zone for 3.
wow these CFL team websites are awesome; they have more detail on the rosters than NFL teams do
>>68882320
oh so it's a lot easier to get a field goal
still that's a bitch move they need to have faith in their D
>>68882149
Vernon Adams (Oregon QB)
Duron Carter (Ohio St WR)
Johnathan Crompton (Tennessee QB)
>Macho Harris
Haven't heard that name in a long time.
>>68882361
ah ok I recognized Duron Carter. He was at Alabama for some time. Thought he wouldve been our elite receiver after Julio and before Amari Cooper
>>68882472
tyrell sutton is playing for the team in white!
>Nik Lewis
>receiver
>5'10
>240
>jumps like a kangaroo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2skO6VkOvng
Wish there were more players with that body type.
>>68882515
somehow recognized that name as well. dont think ive ever seen NW play save a bowl game
>>68882573
..........everybody watched the Suckeyes @ Northwestern game in 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmksocaE5xo
>>68879825
I'd go with the Rougheiders or the Rough Riders.
>>68882638
mmmm yeah
blowout incoming
GOD DAMN IT WILLY YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
Luck or skill there?
>mfw someone tells me this year will be different for Drew Willy
>>68882863
he's not hurt yet
>>68882885
shit willy get it together
i watched the nhl draft over this garbage league.
Jesus, Winnipeg's offense is the definition of INEPT. At least Montreal has some playmakers on their offense
>Winnipeg
WHAAAAAAAAAT
>deep pass incomplete
>deep pass incomplete
>deep pass incomplete
knock it off
>>68883013
Winnipeg has a playmaker, he's just having a timeout
How desperate for football do you have to be to watch this?
>doing a random plug for Discovery Channel
What the fuck?
>>68883094
feels like im watching a Big 12 game except the players arent catching the ball
lel, couldn't even get the single
Trollpost
I know a few highschool teams with a better offense than Winnipeg
>>68883128
What you talking about?
CFL is legit entertaining.
Better than NFL.
>>68883201
DELETE THIS
>>68883229
>>68883131
Canada only has 3 media companies. The game is on a channel that's a merger of ESPN and Bell. Bell owns the Canadian Discovery Channel.
The cross promotional shit with hockey is ten times worse.
When is Michael O'Shea getting fired?
I put the over/under on week seven.
>>68883201
KEK
>once we master stem cell technology there wont be any more war amps ads
>>68883229
>>68883245
It's stupid handball,football is now in europe,learn that
can any leafs tell me what life in calgary is like?
>it's another Bombers are going to be shit season
>it's another Bombers have a shit quarterback
Why do I keep thinking next year is going to be different?
58
8
YARDS
A
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S
58 YARDS
He's probably going to the NFL once his contract is done.
>>68883640
A couple years ago when oil was high the city was pumping. 18 is drinking age and a lot of money meant most hot girls from rural western places moved their to waitress.
City has kind of calmed down now.
It's the newest Canadian city, going to be there for Stampede? City shuts down for weeks because of that.
>>68883640
I like Calgary. It's a nice city, lots of money and close to the mountains.
Some people don't like it because it's kind of redneck and not much in terms of culture.
>>68883640
It's like Edmonton but nicer downtown and less white people
>>68883687
Montreal legit might have four quarterbacks better than Willy
Dat trickery
>>68883726
Most people in BC don't like it because a bunch of new millionaires coming to vacation and being dicks.
I didn't really get why Albertans act like that until I went to Calgary. They're just like that in general, and weren't being personal. You're expected to be brash and big spending.
>>68883712
>>68883726
nah it's not me that's going there, my younger sister is moving there because she just got a really great job offer there that will supposedly help her in her long-term career. which is weird, because she works in fashion and I've never heard of calgary being big on anyone's list as far as that goes. she's got canadian dual citizenship too so they offered her a good position immediately.
>>68883789
I definitely don't think of Calgary being a centre of fashion, unless she is designing flannel shirts and cowboy boots.
>>68883789
I got a cousin who works for a fashion agency in Calgary. She got hired by two arabs with money who were just launching it.
Other than Vancouver selling to Asians, Calgary might sell the most luxury stuff in Canada. There's just a lot of money there, and service industry stuff follows that.
How did she get Canadian citizenship. Your mom get MAPLE GLAZED?
Shit "sport".
Completely irrelevant
>>68883857
her eventual target is to eventually work for cirque du soleil, and the things she's made usually involve lots of bold and meandering color. doesn't sound like the kind of stuff that the flannel and boots crowd would appreciate.
>this fucking team
Legit pissed right now. My hopes were high from the off season acquisitions. Bombers look absolutely brutal.
>>68883895
>How did she get Canadian citizenship
our mom was born in canada and moved here when she was in high school, so my sister and I retain both american and canadian citizenship from birth.
>>68883956
That's the better way to get both. I know some people that were born in America, but then moved here as kids. The last couple years the IRS has started targeting them to file and even pay.
>>68884003
technically we don't even need a passport to enter into or exit from canada, as long as we go by car. that's only required for air or sea travel apparently.
I think my sister will be more at home there anyways. she's spent the last few years living in LA and has become much more liberal as a result, she said that if trump wins then america is doomed, and likes your new prime minister.
>>68884087
absolutely disgusting
>>68884087
Calgary is the most conservative part of Canada. Harper's hometown.
>>68884201
yeah I know, but maybe she'll be better off there, thousands of miles away. she's still family, even if she couldn't be more different.
>>68884210
Lol yeah Calgarians are more likely to support Trump. It's not liberal by any means.
do people in montreal follow the alouettes. no one in toronto watches the argos because theyve got other hobbies and other sports and other shit that are more interesting. i assumed montreal would be kind of similar
>>68884244
>>68884210
I thought all of canada was generally much more liberal though? so a conservative city there would still be considered at least moderate here?
Which team would TayTay support?
>>68884259
Argos game last night had a good crowd and big tv ratings
>>68879551
They need to use highschool/college/NFL rules. Americans wont be confused as fuck when they watch
>>68884325
but then it wouldn't be canadian football anymore.
same reason why they've threatened to ban the NFL entirely if they tried to expand into canada, because it would threaten canadian football and that's apparently worth protecting. those people actually LIKE having it that way for some reason.
>>68884259
>do people in montreal follow the alouettes
Yes
Especially with Calvillo and the 3 cups we got.
They may not be as good now, but the fans are still passionate here.
>>68884259
They do well in terms of attendance, they usually come close to filling up McGill. They're always been a good team though, if nobody replaces Calvillo might get bad. Outside of the 20k people going to games I don't think many care.
People in Montreal are more likely to do stuff in general.
Heard you can smoke joints in the stands.
CIS football is really popular in Quebec though.
>>68884325
>>68884280
Alberta would be close to Republican territory. Maybe not quite as conservative as Texas but pretty close. Definitely more to the right of the Democrat states.
But in general yeah Canada is more liberal.
What is the difference between Canadian Football and Yank Football
>>68884259
Toronto is also like 95% Indian
>>68884366
>Definitely more to the right of the Democrat states.
>we live in california
welp
>>68884280
Yeah. But Calgary is the only city where a pro life politician can get elected.
>>68884289
Winnipeg, she could write a lot of sad songs about them.
>>68884367
3 downs instead of 4
Wider fields and double end zone size in Canadian
110 yard field in Canada, 100 in American
Uprights are at the front of the end zone, not the back
>>68884367
the field is 110 yards long instead of 100
the end zones are 20 yards long instead of 10
there's 12 players per team on the field at a time instead of 11
there's 3 downs instead of 4
there's a way to score just 1 point by itself, but there isn't one in american football
probably more than I'm forgetting, but that's a start
>>68884385
Sounds stupid they should just join the NFL
>>68884367
3 downs instead of four
ball is bigger and rounder, harder to throw
field is 30 yards longer
goal posts are closer to the field
Canadian teams have to employ Canadian players
Canadian football isn't that big a deal. Top 2 NFL players have a combined salary higher than the entire CFL.
>>68884395
>NFL minimum salary $500,000
>CFL maximum salary $450,000
Yeah, that's a great idea.
We'll stop playing our meme ball when you do.
>>68884395
We would just call it meme football, but Arena already has that title.
>>68884393
The 1 point thing is basically a penalty for taking a touchback
Also you can have receivers moving forward at the snap
>>68884348
You can smoke weed anywhere in Montreal. I've never seen pot smoked so casually outside of Amsterdam.
>>68884444
>The 1 point thing is basically a penalty for taking a touchback
checked
It's to reward a missed field goal.
Punters try to kick it out the corner instead of out the end zone.
>WILLY ACTUALLY COMPLETED A PASS
>Spaghetti central
Has Kevin Glenn played for every single team in the league?
>>68884533
He was on contract with the Argonauts, but never played.
Edmonton is the only team he's never been a member of.
Earlier in the game they showed an interview where he jokes how he will sign a one day contract with Edmonton when he's done in Montreal.
DRAGON
>>68884547
That guy has had a strange career. Played on almost every team, no Grey Cups.
>6/7 on 2 pt conversions
Why the fuck would you ever kick a PAT?
>>68884610
The extra point doesn't mean as much with more safeties, and the rouge.
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>>68884671
NOT SO FAST
HE MISSED
40 YARDS C'MON
>that play
I completely have no idea what that play was supposed to do. This league seems fun.
>>68884758
I think anyone behind a punter when he punts it is eligible to get the ball and advance it, I just didn't know you could activate that past the line of scrimmage. Special teams rules in the CFL are all kinds of goofy.
>>68884770
You got it. It's not tried or done much. Ottawa did it, first time it was successful in the last 10 years.
It happened once for a
>>68884432
AFL is actually unique though, there's really no point having the CFL though. Just like how Rugby Union and League should be one sport.
>>68884847
AFL is only unique because nobody cares about Gaelic football. CFL is designed to be able to attract talent that wouldn't be successful in the NFL.
>2015 AFL Grand Finals
>A total of 2,640,000 people across the two channels watched the match, making the Grand Final the most viewed television broadcast of the day.
Nobody cares about your sport. Not even Australians.
>>68884847
CFL is much better than the NFL though.
CFL games are faster, unless there's weather delay. The plays are more interesting; more long passes, running the field, plain weird ones too. Rather than just short-running it for the 1st down like in the NFL.
It deserves to stay.
>>68884909
>CFL is much better than the NFL though.
>It deserves to stay.
is that what canadians think? because americans certainly don't. I'm curious to see the comparisons between canadian ratings of CFL vs NFL games, as well as merchandise sales.
>>68884925
Don't forget, Canada is smaller than the states. Some of those comparisons are gonna be skewed.
But look at Toronto. Nice new and big stadium for the Argos.
>>68884925
I don't give a fuck about merchandise sales I care about attendance, good commentating, and good games
Of which the cfl can provide none
montreal gets an nfl team before toronto how does canada react
>>68884280
In spite of what everyone else says, the city is increasingly "liberal." You could kind of think of what's happened to Northern Virginia/NC over the past couple decades, with lots of inmigration and increasing sophistication. Calgary for the longest time was too conservative for its own good (literally no government ever took Calgary seriously because we were would always vote with/against the government no matter what), but since the oil money has been starting to dry up the past few years people have realized our old fanboy conservatism was pretty much a big failure.
At least our football team is good. Watch them tomorrow night. This MTL-WPG game was shit.
>>68884925
Canadian NFL ratings are hard to track, because a lot of NFL games are simulcast on American networks, and we don't keep track of that viewership.
Grey Cup tends to do as well as the Superbowl in viewers. There's some regional biases for western Canada in following the CFL. CFL fans are older than NFL fans in Canada.
Ratings don't compare well because Canadians don't watch as much tv during the summer, because we can finally go outside.
I prefer CFL rules. I find NFL is even worse with the rule changes that encourage passing. CFL gives QBs more to work with, while the NFL has taken away from defense more.
>>68884894
Our country cares about it, can't say the same for Canadians and their football. A lot of Canucks I know just follow NFL anyway.
>>68885026
>good commentating
>Of which the cfl can provide none
What's that, bitch?
>>68884367
In addition, the field size really influences the type of player in each league; NFL prioritizes size, while the CFL is more about speed. There are individual NFL players that are faster than anyone in the CFL, but if you consider lineman positions (typically the heaviest players in either league) a CFL player is lighter and much faster.
>>68885071
>As always the number does not include those watching in pubs, parties and backyards
Which is practically the entire country lol
>>68885071
I'm sure you can say about more about Canada than I can.
>>68885115
The Superbowl got higher viewership in Canada than the Grey Cup this year
>>68884971
>Don't forget, Canada is smaller than the states. Some of those comparisons are gonna be skewed.
how is that relevant when comparing figures between canadians? I didn't mean CFL figures among canadians compared to NFL figures among americans, but both of them among canadians instead.
>>68885026
I'm just saying, the way people vote with their wallets is an okay place to start when trying to figure out league popularity. not the be all end all of course, but it's not bad.
>>68885071
>A lot of Canucks I know just follow NFL anyway.
same here, which is why I brought it up. some of them weren't even aware that the CFL existed, and all but one of the rest expressed either disdain or disinterest in the CFL compared to the NFL.
>>68885169
Regarding point #1, CFL games get better ratings than any other sporting event on Canadian TV (except for Hockey Night in Canada). NFL sometimes does better; NBA soccer, etc never.
Point 2 - CFL has very, very different levels of support. Toronto was on life support for years, but Saskatchewan sells enough merch to make it the third most valuable sports team in the country (after the Canadiens and Maple Leafs). Ottawa, Winnipeg and Edmonton compete pretty well for attention and affection with their NHL counterparts; I remember when the Stampeders were much more popular than the Flames
>>68885214
right so it's not like they're minnows in general, they're just not as much of a national identity like hockey is. I can understand that. but if that's the case it seems like you guys would still be able to carry on if you were able to have NFL teams expand into canadian teams too, and every indication I've heard before goes to the contrary of that. so that's why I wanted to hear it from an actual canadian who follows the sport. I'm still holding out for maybe a Toronto or Vancouver NFL team someday, but I had always heard that it just wasn't ever feasible because it would kill the CFL.
>>68885257
I wouldn't say it would kill the CFL - it would survive elsewhere. I would say the biggest thing holding back the NFL is that there simply aren't the tax breaks, big corporations, or big money necessary to support more than one major Pro franchise (by which I mean the NHL) in any given city. A good example of this is Vancouver - not for football, but for NBA. Vancouver is probably Canada's real sports city - they produce an obnoxiously large proportion of our major hockey, football, basketball, baseball, rugby, cricket and lacrosse players. No other city is anywhere close to that in the whole country, and they don't even have an NBA team anymore. Aside from the Canucks and Lions, all they've got is a AA baseball team.
CFL is pretty cheap to maintain - the stadiums are money losers, but they don't cost the country billions of dollars each, and Canadians by and large got over building huge stadiums in the 1980s. Canadians are pretty cheap too. I don't think you would find support anywhere for a $2B stadium, publicly financed. Even the flames here in Calgary can't get a new hockey rink and football field for half that price. Also, a lot of CFL fans are actually quite happy that the players are only paid in the tens of thousands/hundreds of thousands. Many feel other pro athletes are overpaid prima donas how don't really care for the sport, and find the CFL, like junior hockey, better entertainment and sport.
These are just some of the things I've observed over the years. A lot of Canadians feel like we should have an NFL team, but when it comes down to it, you would never be able to finance the thing, and even if you did, I have a feeling you would be very hard pressed to actually sell tickets to it (again, we're cheap; just look at the Miami-Buffalo games. They had to give away tickets and it was still the worst attended game in the NFL)
>>68885257
>>68885257
I wouldn't say it would kill the CFL - it would survive elsewhere. I would say the biggest thing holding back the NFL is that there simply aren't the tax breaks, big corporations, or big money necessary to support more than one major Pro franchise (by which I mean the NHL) in any given city. A good example of this is Vancouver - not for football, but for NBA. Vancouver is probably Canada's real sports city - they produce an obnoxiously large proportion of our major hockey, football, basketball, baseball, rugby, cricket and lacrosse players. No other city is anywhere close to that in the whole country, and they don't even have an NBA team anymore. Aside from the Canucks and Lions, all they've got is a AA baseball team.
CFL is pretty cheap to maintain - the stadiums are money losers, but they don't cost the country billions of dollars each, and Canadians by and large got over building huge stadiums in the 1980s. Canadians are pretty cheap too. I don't think you would find support anywhere for a $2B stadium, publicly financed. Even the flames here in Calgary can't get a new hockey rink and football field for half that price. Also, a lot of CFL fans are actually quite happy that the players are only paid in the tens of thousands/hundreds of thousands. Many feel other pro athletes are overpaid prima donas how don't really care for the sport, and find the CFL, like junior hockey, better entertainment and sport.
These are just some of the things I've observed over the years. A lot of Canadians feel like we should have an NFL team, but when it comes down to it, you would never be able to finance the thing, and even if you did, I have a feeling you would be very hard pressed to actually sell tickets to it (again, we're cheap; just look at the Miami-Buffalo games. They had to give away tickets and it was still the worst attended game in the NFL)
