>“The numbers speak for themselves,” said goalkeeper Hope Solo, one of the players to sign the complaint. “We are the best in the world, have three World Cup championships, four Olympic championships.” Solo said the men’s players “get paid more to just show up than we get paid to win major championships.”
What did she mean by this?
The usmnt sucks
>Wimmins football
>""""major"""" championships
kek
KEK
No one cares about women's sports. If they won everything for decades I still wouldn't care
They have zero World Cup championships. They do, however, have three Women's World Cup championships.
It means no one watches their shitty version of the sport, so they don't get paid. Anyway, if the men played against the woman, the men would win 10-0 or something.
>>68757898
Asshurt that women's football is, and forever will be an irrelevant joke.
Didn't they get trashed by some high-schoolers recently?
>>68757898
>i don't understand market economics
Not surprising for a domestic abusing, roast beef curtain psychopath.
>>68757898
>multiple domestic assault charges
>wants money
Someone post her nasty vagina
>>68757898
>goalkeeper Hope Solo
Judging by certain pictures, she hasn't stopped anyone from scoring in several years.
>>68757998
No more roast beef pls
>>68757998
pls don't
>>68757898
Pay is proportional to how many people are willing to pay to watch/support.
>Women are this stupid
>>68757898
it means she can commit domestic violence and no one bats an eye
>>68757967
last thread about this somebody posted how a sub17 team won over those "champions" 3-0 TRES A CERO THREE TO ZERO. Tbh the hard part of making a goal to Solo is trying to avoid loosing the ball in her gigantic cavern.
>>68758012
OOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>68757898
post her delicious looking pussy
>>68757998
please no
>>68757898
I thought it was the given thing you don't get paid to play in the NT, or if you are given a fee you donate it to charity.
Or, at least in men's football.
why don't the women's XI just play the men's XI and we can see who's really better
>>68758069
Final score determines pay ratio.
>>68757898
>three world championships
>would probably lose to a couple of beer-bellied weekend players
yeah nah you ugly cunt
>men vs women game
>women somehow win
>>68758043
how much attendance/revenue are these cunts attracting compared to the men's NT? not much i'd wager. It's like women wanting equal pay in tennis despite the fact they play less sets. If you want actual equality, how about pitting yourselves against the men's teams? Oh wait, you wouldn't because you'd get fucking destroyed by a high school level squad.
>>68758069
they played hide the sausage once. Hope won solo.
>>68758112
that just doesn't happen. Keep dreaming.
>>68758020
>>68757967
>>68757985
Thank you people for not being fucking retarded
>>68757898
Has she ever spent a single thought why sports are the only professional field where men and women are strictly seperated?
They should play the mens' team and the result represents their adequate payment.
>>68758113
he did it the absolute madman
>>68758113
Enjoy your ban, lad
They get paid because of the amount of revenue they bring in, you fucking idiot, Hope. Why don't you go back to taking photos of your vagina from horrible angles?
>>68758106
They lost to high-schoolers.
>>68757998
At least her booty is nice, post it
>>68758113
hope it was worth it
It means she's going to get a side job at Arby's
> woman doesn't understand economics
I'm shocked!
>>68758209
its not. she has nothing. Only sadness
>>68758209
it looks like the black hole of calcutta m8
SOMEONE POST DEM MUNCHIES
>>68757998
For the love of god don't
>>68758400
>>68758413
just fucking google them. Dont post that nasty shit here.
I 100% agree with her here.
America is about rewarding winners. The US Men's team are a poor-to-mediocre institution who don't really even outdraw the women's team in national television ratings.
>white knight!
Nope. The fact the men's team can make a killing being fuckin losers runs counter to what this country that is supposed to unbiasedly reward merit regardless of race, gender, or creed is about.
Someone will bring up the "economics" of the situation again, but the men's team playing the Copa America can barely beat women's softball in the ratings.
>>68758400
No, /sp/ is a SFW board so extreme gore is not allowed.
>it's another hope solo thread
>>68758487
>risking your multi-million dollar club contract to play relatively meaningless games
The men wouldn't bother playing these games if the compensation wasn't good enough. Exactly why US basketball players often skip out on Olympics and the like, they have better shit to do, like staying healthy, so if you want them to come, you better pay.
Meanwhile international soccer is the women's entire professional careers.
Use your head fuckstick.
>>68757898
TBf their CBA was a bit out of date and they were getting worse sponsorship/appearance fees than the men despite generating higher income & revs in 2015. But it's mostly impossible to make apples to apples comparisons in general
>>68758487
women's football is amateurish, you can't pay amateurs the same as professionals, the men's team are VASTLY superior to the women's and the reason they are not winning trophies like the women is the competition in men's football is absolutely ferocious and piss weak in women's
>>68757898
that's like saying that it's so unfair that the world's best alpinist earns less than the world's best footballer.
it's simply massively less popular so it generates less money.
Bitch should be grateful enough to have born in an age where she can practice the sport she loves and live out of it instead of being a baby factory with cleaning purposes.
>>68758113
MODS
>>68758487
Good point, we should pay the team who win League 7 North-East Division more than the team who come near the bottom of the Premiership
>I replied
Seriously, what kind of fucking name is Hope Solo? The first time I heard it I thought it was some obscure character from some Star Wars EU shit
>>68757898
She's retarded right? Does she think they could also match up against men?
Iirc there was a woman's national team recently that got destroyed in a friendly against a bunch of 16-18 year old kids
>>68758761
that's what her retarded parents were probably going for
>>68758487
women's anything literally has no rating. Only women sports with ratings are volleyball and tennis. THEM ASSES
>>68758761
>be white trash
>name daughter hope
>>68757898
>be women
>be literally worse at soccer than men
>get "safe space" less competitive league to be able to compete
>draw lees attention from public
>generate less revenue
>proceed to complain
the urban agglomeration of women
>>68758774
>recently
it's happened more than once. I think australia and brazil last year, maybe more.
>yfw they have to use kids to simulate conditions that are 3x tougher than when they play """"professionally""""
Hope solo?
More like Hole's Sogross
>>68758989
Yeah I just found it, it was Australia (the post also said they are favorites for the Rio olympics) and they got btfo 7:0.
Fucking hilarious
>>68758657
But she wouldn't even be "the best alpinist", she would be someone who just climbed Ben Nevis but she thinks she can be compared to alpinists climbing Anapurna
somebody post that interview with all the women's players where they clearly didn't give a shit about the sport
>>68758978
plz no
>women thinking they can defy the laws of nature and overcome their innate physical inferiority
it never stops being funny
>>68757898
Women sports is at the level of amateur mens soccer.
Is complete shit.
>>68758989
The Swedish women once lost 3-0 or something like that, to a ten man U16 team. They said they hadn't even realised that the other team were a man down.
>>68757898
>Solo said the men’s players “get paid more to just show up than we get paid to win major championships.”
L M A O
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3609949/Matildas-lose-7-0-Newcastle-Jets-15s-Rio-Olympics-warm-up.html
>Australia NATIONAL women team
>trashed by Australian's Newcastle JUNIOR team
>7-0 against 13 year old children
wymyn football, not even once.
pretty alpha banter desu
>>68759291
you give them too much credit.
most of these National Teams get BTFO by U15 kids
>>68757898
She wants more money because Arby's isn't giving her enough sponsorship money
>goalkeeper
>woman
>wanting more money
ayy lmao
>>68758638
>>68758855
>>68758694
Hope isn't talking about Women's soccer vs. Men's soccer on a worldwide scale. She's about it in reference to the US sports landscape, and in that bubble, the women's national team is about as popular, if not slightly more so, than the men's.
The highest ever rated soccer match on US television was a women's match.
Meanwhile, the men are struggling to beat College Women's softball in the ratings. Lel.
>>68757898
Most school teams in the UK could beat any women's team. The BBC try to push women's football here but no one cares, why is it such a big deal in USA, especially given only hipsters care about soccerball there?
>>68759253
>mfw some of the social science journals are so far removed from actual science that I remember seeing a paper arguing that any difference is due to programmed social roles and not testosterone
it was literally positing that the reason why boys start to pull ahead of girls physically during adolescence was because that was the impressionable time when girls start internalizing that society believes they are weaker. I couldn't believe the delusion
>>68757898
The brazilian womens football team got absolutely btfo by an english pub team in a 5 a side match and these cunts want equal pay to men? Top fucking kek. That pub team deserves it more than they do
>>68759488
>why is it such a big deal in USA
Because soccer is a women's sport here.
>>68757898
You know this cunt really makes me root for the men's US team.
The are playing with the best in the world yet they are getting so much shit for not winning by those useless bitches.
All because they play against u15 level teams
.And fuck the SJW media supporting her.
>>68759557
it's literal shit
>>68759557
But why is women's sport even a thing in USA? Here it's just sport (men) and women attempting to play sport. The only 'women's sport' we have here is netball
Football is about athleticism, skill and power, attributes that women do not possess.
>>68757898
She meant to say she's a horrible person who is prone to domestic abusing anyone in her vicinity
>>68757998
Oh look, how easy was that?
>more people watch men's soccer
>male soccer players get paid more
This doesn't make any sense to me? Why don't women get paid the same amount regardless? Is it because not as many people pay to watch women play because the level of competition is much, much lower?
Fucking retard.
>>68759648
Because countries love to watch anything they're dominant in
>>68759648
because americans bend over backwards to appease women's constant drive to get more money for doing less work. look up title ix as an example.
![dbdffb1cf2a2c528573848f20105396b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VIGCDvA.jpg "dbdffb1cf2a2c528573848f20105396b[1].jpg")
>I take women seriously
>>68759648
Women like to play sports too. Who would've thunk it?
And over the years, women gravitated toward certain sports here: Soccer, softball, and volleyball.
I know everyone's irritated that Hope seems to be implying they are just as good as the men in a vacuum, but that's not her point at all. Her argument can be easily backed showing that the women do draw as much as the men here.
>>68759791
WE HAVE THE MEATS
The problem is that getting into the knock out phase of a men's international tournament is a more impressive achievement than actually winning a women's tournament
>>68759791
Out of all the women who got their pics leaked,she had to be the one with the most explicit poses.
The whole thing was underwhelming desu
>>68758039
I thought it was something more stupid like 7-2
>>68759488
Soccer is a sport for women, latinos, and children in the US.
>"The numbers speak for themselves"
Women have not enough viewers to get more money
Dumb bitch
>>68760261
It was actually 8-0. The US u-17 boys beat the US adult women. There are a bunch if tweets from the players involved confirming it.
>>68758039
it was 8-2
>>68760261
3-0 from sub 17 kids should be enough to keep her mouth close. But no she has to open it as wide as her disgusting pussy
>>68759834
Horseshit. This is one case where the "ebil womyn" have a solid point.
- Highest rated soccer game in US history? A women's match.
- Social media presence? Hope and Alex Morgan have more twitter followers than any USMNT member.
- Marketability? Just having Alex alone makes the Women's team more marketable. Once Donovan retired, their went the USNMT star power.
- Copa America is really showing how poor the men's team are as a draw. <<<
>>68760476
Lot's of people like to watch Olympic athletes. Doesn't mean they want to pay for it.
Lot's of people like to watch boxers.Those people are also happy to pay for it.
Guess who makes more money, the boxers or the Olympians?
>>68759448
>this b8
A lot of people watched because it was a World Cup final. The U.S. men would get Super Bowl numbers if they made a final. Their average without that final wasn't close to the men's. Even more so when you take into account the 6-7 million watching the men on Telemundo. Spics don't give a shit about women.
>>68760476
Few would actually pay to watch wymin soccer.
Most of us just want to wave flags and chant USA USA USA for free.
Does that bitch know that if she's the best in the world she's perfectly allowed to go play in the men's league and get big money?
>>68760294
>children
This.
Soccer is huge in elementary school.
Then we grow up and play real sports.
Women have a fixed income regardless of how much the play, men get payed for matches.
But this argument about ratings is bullshit.
1) International organizations dont give money based on tv ratings, but even if it
2)women tournaments dont have the same level of views than the WC.
>>68760355
can someone post sauce?
Who makes more Miss Universe or Mr Universe?
>>68759752
womens team generated more income and revenue than the mens in 2015
>>68760928
https://twitter.com/Floresjr_/status/194563542622543872
She is so good!
Equal pay for porn, NOW.
Dudes are doing most of the work
wait - a Hope Solo thread without 20 pictures of her butthole + vagina?
I'm impressed
>tfw craving arbys because of this thread
>>68760928
https://twitter.com/Floresjr_/status/194565600402612224
And one of the women's players from the same day:
https://twitter.com/heathermitts/status/194549296119549953
>>68758197
and that was way before this complaint
really makes you question women's sanity
>>68761026
>Needs quotation
>>68761226
Cherrypicked values.
2105 was a WC year for them
>>68761145
Me on the right
>>68761026
They had a World Cup in which they won. The men generate more money over the course of the four year cycle. Women's program runs at a loss and it takes them winning the World Cup to make as much money as the men coming in dead last.
>>68761185
>>68761077
thanks lads, I don't know why I was expecting/lurking for a news report or even a video
>>68760594
The men's don't advance very far in the world cup often, therefore their drawing power suffers.
Okay, for the sake of the argument, I'll accept the men's team are about 40% more valuable per those average world cup television ratings. In light of that, the women are still being underpaid.
Ratings are ratings and advertising dollars are advertising dollars. So the powers-that-be who are running US soccer aren't fairly compensating the women relative to their drawing power, profit, and marketabilty (i.e. Alex made the list of the 50 most marketable athletes in the world).
>>68761393
US gets money from MENS tournaments which pay out more, and the players make good money in Europe and MLS so need to be compensated if they want them to show up
>>68758113
Thank god it's not kebab.
The mouthbreathing entrylevel MRAs ITT really have little argument. Hope is right.
>The women’s team brought in slightly more of that revenue: $26.8 million, including $3.2 million in World Cup revenue. The men brought in revenues totaling $21 million.
>Women's team brings in more revenue.
>"They're just complaining cuz entitled, title 9, war on men, Anita Sarkeesian."
>>68761393
>women are still being underpaid
pls check how much money the men's world cup generates and how much the women's.
men are notoriously underpaid
That's like saying North Dakota State players deserve to be paid higher than Los Angeles Rams players because they won a championship.
>>68761621
Bro, this in the context of the US sports landscape not the global sports landscape.
The US men never advance far enough in the tournament to justify their pay discrepancy. The women do, and a natural fact of life and sports is that winners draw more.
>>68761393
The thing is they are paid in a very different way, but one that makes sense.
Women have fixed yearly income but the men get payed by matches and mainly by results facing big teams.
You really shouldnt accept that women get payed the same by playing amateur level teams while the US is fighting SA powerhouses.
If they want more money what about private sponsors?.
Shouldnt that be easy if they really get more tv ratings?
>>68757898
Literally who?
>>68761393
Source for those projected profit numbers? U.S. soccer spends millions per year subsidizing the women's league in order to keep it afloat. They pay the salaries. Are those numbers in there (they're not)? The women's entire case and pay scale revolves around their most entire year in their programs history. They don't even acknowledge the 20 years of being losing money. They don't acknowledge the risk/reward. If they don't win the World Cup, they're lucky to break even because there's not a victory tour. Nothing would make me happier if U.S. Soccer separated the programs and the women had to come crawling back after their infrastructure folded.
>>68757898
MODS
please do your job
Fine, take on the men then, you roastie.
>>68761605
They should start a professional women's league if they want to get paid
Oh wait there was more money in being a short order cook so it folded almost immediately
>>68761938
>You really shouldnt accept that women get payed the same by playing amateur level teams while the US is fighting SA powerhouses.
Competition level is irrelevant. In sports, you don't get paid for skills, you get paid for drawing power.
If no one cared about basketball, Lebron's amazing skills wouldn't be worth shit.
It's a documented fact that the US women generate more revenue than the men.
Here's an article that was actually debunking the myth that US women were 20 million dollars more profitable than men, but found out that the women were still more profitable overall.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/apr/06/other-98/facebook-post-exaggerates-discrepancy-between-us-m/
>>68758039
It was 8-2 and that was the USWNT against sub 17 USNMT, it was like 3 years ago and there are no coverage of it other than twitts from Sub 17 USNMT players making fun of scoring 2 goals against Solo.
Also there are reports of the Australian Women shitposting team to lose like 8-0 against sub 15 kids from a random club. The Australian women team are supposed to be among the "best" women football team on the globe.
>>68761822
That's not how business works. Risk-reward son. To hit those numbers the men just have to qualify. The women have to win. The men would generate $100+ million if they win. Probably half that for a semi appearance.
The women have one bad knockout game and the federation loses money.
>>68761822
I dont think you can separate the 2 with your national team.
Dont forget the federations get their money from FIFA and whatever prices they get in tournaments.
Tv deals comes from the concacaf, not from US.
They just receive the money and give it away.
>>68762140
We're not talking about a men's pro league vs. a women's pro league. We're talking about the US men's nat. team vs. the US women's, and in that context, the women are more valuable.
you shouldn't get paid for playing for your country :)
>>68762245
>To hit those numbers the men just have to qualify. The women have to win.
And the likelihood of that is about the same, which Hope is implying.
I agree that men would be a much bigger draw if they were a soccer superpower, but they're not. They're a middling team who can barely beat women's softball in the ratings and are 4 million dollars less profitable than their women counterpart.
>>68761605
>>68758487
>America is about rewarding winners.
>>68761605
>men brought $21M in a NONE WC year
>Women won the freaking WC and brought 27M in revenue in a WC year for them
>Thinking this statistics are comparable.
>>68762398
The likelihood hasn't been the same. Post another year in history where the women made that much money and I'll admit I'm wrong.
>>68762398
>the women's final between the two best women's teams barely got more viewers than a shitty Ro16 game
sjws pls
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/03/business/media/usa-belgium-world-cup-game-drew-22-million-viewers-in-ratings.html
>>68762832
also
>the women played on a fucking Sunday afternoon while the men on a Tuesday afternoon
>>68762168
I think you guys dont understand that FIFA and the regional federations are in charge of the sport, not ESPN.
The men tournaments are more important valuable for fifa and concaf, thats why they give bigger prices.
Is 2 different parties all together.
>>68762521
Just looked it up. The men actually only brought in 15 million in their World Cup year.
And the projected revenue gap for 2017 is 8 million in favor of the women.
>>68757898
I'm not going to make any le get in le kitchen memes in fact in England I'm ashamed to say she would be right. Apart from that one specific country (who knows, there might be others but I don't really care all that much for football) she should shut the fuck up because they get paid according to how much profit they makes the football associations.
>Is this morally right?
Does it matter? No one is bothered when it happens the other way around. Do you hear
>Male models
>Male dancers
>Male gymnasts etc.
complaining that they make less than women in their profession?
The worst thing about this is that a lot of people would see her as an inspiration when she's so concerned about money despite getting paid billions. This is one of the reasons that the English men's football team has gone to shit, it's all about making money. But what is money? Is it the glory of a thousand adoring fans cheering your name? Is it the tear in an orphan's eye knowing that you are the only father or mother figure he's ever have? Is it the feeling of achievement you get when you may not be the best in the world but you know that you came as close as you possible could? Is this what money buys?
>>68760821
Also this
>>68763077
>regional federations
Yes, US Soccer, who is obviously not fairly compensating their main draw in this instance.
What's with the fedora tipper here?
I thought /sp/ was free of nu male faggots?
>>68763771
>Arguing that the US women's team should be better compensated per their drawing power
>Prove it with numbers
>"Nu male"
Sure thing, Mehmet.
It's the MRA mouthbreathers that can't come up with a cogent argument and reflexively think that anyone who shows any support for "womyn" is a (((SJW))).
No. The cuck/nu male mentality would think that a group of middling players who can barely beat women's softball in television ratings should be worth more because "men."
>>68763969
Nu male fag pls.
>>68763077
The argument is entirely about compensation from USSF.
>>68757898
If I was a judge in the case, I'd be like "You think you deserve more pay because your scrub team beats other scrub teams....fine, you're going to play 7 games vs. a professional mens team, bitch."
>>68763969
this troll is a solid 7 desu
>Be the best women's team in the world
>Lose 8-2 to a bunch of 14 year old boys
Ah yes, very impressive.
>>68764665
Shhh, you'll make the nu male cry.
>>68757898
> doesn't understand that way more money is spent on football than women's football
> wants to get paid for playing for her national team
Top kek
Only Murica could put that shit off
>>68763667
That would be concacaf.
And that includes mexico&co.
