>Considered to be the worst Italian team in recent history
>Dominating objectively the hardest group in the tournament group thus far
What went so right?
teamwork is underrated
the spanish group is the hardest though and well belgium was just plain bad. sweden is just well sweden
>>68577601
>hardest group
our group is the hardest tbqh
>>68577601
We're missing our 2 star players as well
>beat Lelgium
>barely score against Sweden
top kek
any good attack will crush our "defense"
Conte
>hardest group
>Ireland
>Sweden
>fucking Belgium
>>68577601
Team spirit and belief from the manager
>>68577699
Our defense is literally our best aspect you cuck
>>68577735
>Belgium
>Not having a decent squad on paper
Finland please.
>>68577601
>What went so right?
Coordinated defense
>>68577699
Wrong, the defense is good you fuckin "muh juventus shit block ruins everything" moron.
The problem is Pellé and Eder are just shit and barely shot on target against Swedes who literally can't defend
>>68577747
we're fucked then
I'd say B and C are the hardest groups in this tournament.
>italy has already made 11.5m eurobucks in this tournament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016#Prize_money
Meh. Show me a year where Italy are not underrated.
They pretty much always perform. Stop acting so surprised when they do. Sick of it.
What went right?
Italy have 5 world class players and all if them are defensive players(Buffon, back 3, De Rossi)
>>68577834
>they pretty much always perform
except in the last two wc
>>68577834
>They pretty much always perform.
2010
2014
>>68577757
the problem that belgium have and they have always had is that it's hard for the players to feel any sense of national pride for a non country, they should rejoin the netherlands desu
>>68577853
>De Rossi
>world class player
Just a world class wage nowadays
>>68577601
It's another Italy turns up with a shit squad and gets to the final episode.
How do they keep doing it lads?
>>68577601
è solo culo
>english:
>it's only ass
>he rates Belgium and Sweden
>Base your teamplay on making smart fouls
>You get yellow cards for that
>Do nothing during 90 min so that you dont get booked and you dont have suspended players for Quarters
>Win anyway
So smart
They've got outstanding organization and defensive solidity and Conte is getting the most out of his attacking players too
>>68577939
Also Giaccherini going GOAT-mode
>>68577768
The problem is that parolo exists
>>68577601
>the hardest group
More like the memest group.
Is Conti better than Lippi?
>hardest group
It's one of the easiest ones. Sweden is a contender for the worst team of the tournament and Ireland isn't much better
>mfw no Verratti
:(
>>68577901
He's the best defensive midfielder in the world. What midfielder is better at defending? I can't think of any.
Stop putting your team down. Italy are the best team I've seen this tournament
>>68578202
Stop discussing football and go back to your usual board
>>68578197
mfw ur gay lmao
>>68578151
Lippi is a gentleman
Conte is a hitman
>Calls Cucù, Vavà, Totò, Dallì Allà, Bebè
>Thinks just because he stuffed the midfield full of educated feet chimps or semichimps the entire national team is world class
>Get exposed when facing a legit line of defense made by the guy in charge of the NT and used to face the best teams on the planet together as one block
>Cries about petty shit
>>68578169
Save for Germany they all suck, indiscriminately.
>>68578202
At his best it was De Rossi, now it's the man De Rossi is subbing in because he's injured.
>>68577601
hardest group
>memegium
>shitaly
>muslimden
and one decent team: Ireland.
Are you kidding?
Hardest group is easily F.
>>68577601
>Considered to be the worst Italian team in recent history
It is possibly the worst off all time since we are missing veratti and marchisio, but yet enough to deafeat meme countries.
>>68578202
you haven't watched many games then.
>>68578202
>What midfielder is better at defending?
Conte (Leicester one), Naingollan and probably some others.
Am i right in thinking a draw between Ireland and Belgium tomorrow more or less see's Ireland go through?
>>68577649
As if, no one wanted Italy from pot 2, sweden from pot 3 and Ireland in pot 4 have recent wins over Germany and Poland and always upset the big teams, only way the group could have been more difficult is if it had been Germany instead of Belgium
>>68577735
>The opinions of North Estonia
>>68577917
we actually have decent coaches, unlike you guys
>>68578273
>Hardest
You can't call a group where the least shit goes through the "hardest", it doesn't work that way. It's like having an UCL group with Leicester, Malmoe, Borussia Mongoloidbach and Gent and argue it's the hardest.
>>68578273
You field a keeper wearing his pajama
>>68578294
and you miss a class striker.
What happened to all your big promises from recent years?
Aquafresca, Rossi, Balotelli, Giovinco, Insigne, Berardi, El Shaarawy, Immobile, Destro, Paloschi, Cerci, Macheda, Floccari ?
Just a few names I can remember. None of them turned out to be at least an OK striker?
>>68578398
Implying you don't want to have comfy grey tracksuits like Király
>>68578398
>shitting on Kiraly for no reason
come on
>>68577880
How is belgium team proportion in terms of vallonia fags and flemish fags??
>>68578450
conte likes middlefielders more
don't ask me why
>>68578333
>put 10 men behind the ball
>hoof it up to lone 6ft5in frontman
>dive if someone comes within 6 inches of you
>punch and kick people when the ref isn't looking
>time waste from the first minute of the game
>Italian 'coaching'
>>68578450
>big promises
Desperate attempts. In order
>Legit facebook meme player le Drinkwater Freshwater xD
>Broke his leg six times and by the time he was back he had white hair
>Nigger being a nigger
>Rey Mysterio is too small for the heavyweight division so he ran to the cruiserweight leagues
>He's great and he's at the competition, maybe out of shape
>Spineless coward he'd rather wait in the big leagues for inter to pull a comeback than face the giants with Juventus. No testicles
>Available, not exactly best shape
>Fat pig
>Come on
>Fraud more than Torres ever was
And the rest of the list I won't even acknowledge
>>68578362
You laugh until the "shitty" Iceland will blow you out as the "weakest team ever in final16".
People rated Portugal and Austria as secret contenders of the Euros, and they also took it for granted that Iceland & Hungary will be their punchbags.
>>68578541
>wait in the small leagues with Sassuolo
>>68578450
>Rossi
he could've been better than messi(no jokes here) but his knee broke several times and now he's but the shadow of himself.
> El Shaarawy
He's still young , but he has played very well in rome and could become a star iin the years to come
>Balotelli
Simply a dickhead who wasted his talent
> Insigne, Berardi
Young but they are growing stronger and stronger
The rest are meme players
This generation was super fucked up mainly because serie a had a crysis between 2006 and 2012
>>68578560
Everyone also thought we would have been Belgium's punchbag, and tell for the Ibrahimovic meme
>>68578541
kinda sucks then. I got most of it, but onw. Who is the Fat Pig according to you?
Paloschi?
>>68578632
not me.
From the beginning I said Italy is a strong contender. Best defense, solid midfield, well the lack of attackers can hit back, but you will 0-0 and 1-0 your way to the semis I bet.
>>68578646
Destro, he is getting it together in Bologna, but until few months ago he was a meatball. He has to regain quite a bit of trust, and keep in mind Conte kept people who scored way more than he did (Pavoletti) out.
>>68577853
>back 3
reminder that the current back 3 were the reserve of the back 3 who won the world cup
>>68578693
Grats. I must admit that basically all Italy thought Belgium would have shat in our mouths, me included.
>>68578746
Yes, and reminder that 2006 was 21 years ago.
>>68577622
Coaching too desu
>>68578746
Bonucci went to the world cup in 2006? Wasn't he like 17 at the time?
>>68578534
if it is so hard, why isn't any English coach applying it to the NT?
oh right, because they're shit
>>68577768
with el shaarawy, insigne and berardeschi still on the bench
>>68578845
he didn't
anon is too young
Should've called up Giovinco tßh
Italians are criminally underrated desu. Were 21/10 on the betting against memelgium
>>68578450
>Aquafresca
dem feels
>>68578845
don't take him seriously, he's just telling bullshit.
Barzagli was the only one that went to the 06WC, he even was the sub for Materazzi (another sub)
>>68578398
>implying you wouldn't
>>68578950
Is it a tactical hole in his pants or...?
>>68578902
>this shit AGAIN
choosing to play in the current MLS means retiring from relevant football just to cash in on a fat paycheck, nothing more
>>68578914
>>68578845
i was exxaggerating. But bonucci was the reserve of cannavaro and barzagli for a long time. Although he had no yet reached his prime, so whatever
>>68578845
If you see WC 06 final they show Chiellini in the crowd. Barzagli was a reserve and Bonucci's nowhere to be seen.
>>68578811
tfw the nineties were 50 years ago
>>68577601
>hardest group in the tournament
The what now?
>>68577601
>who is Conte
>>68578889
Yes well as long as Gonde insists with this stupid 352 playing those three would be insane. The defense is pressured enough by the invisible midfield without you let the opponent overload the sides too.
You can't even play them instead of Eder, because they're all three shit tier as second strikers.
>>68578151
Conte is great at getting the best from literal shit players, but he still managed to lose against Galatasaray.
He also values more his tactics than his men, which means he didn't call great players much better than Motta or Giaccherini because they don't fit his vision.
Lippi always had great teams, can't compare him.
>>68579631
I doubt Conte, with Italy 2010 NT, would have got eliminated by fucking slovakia, paraguay and new zealand.
Calling Lippi again was a big mistake
>>68579631
>he didn't call great players much better than Motta or Giaccherini
Giaccherini >>>> Bonaventura
>>68579780
True.
I feel he would still have managed to fuck up the convocations tho.
>>68579871
he'd pretty much call the same players of Lippi
do you actually see Gonde calling Cassano and Balotelli in the NT, even if it was 2010?
>>68579791
Hahahahhahahah can't even win a fucking contrast with SWEDEN defenders, imagine him against Germany.
Just like his Juventus, Italy offensive options are shit with 0 technique because he cares more about the tactics.
>>68579631
>He also values more his tactics than his men
Which is hilarious considering that his tactics at Juve worked more due to his men (dat Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal midfield) than due to the tactics themselves. Now he insists with having Giaccherini-De Rossi-Parolo play the same roles and we can see the results. This midfield worked as much as Buffon today, what wa fucking shamble.
>>68579933
>do you actually see Gonde calling Cassano and Balotelli in the NT, even if it was 2010?
No but I could see him calling some seghe immonde just because they fit his schemes better than some still serviceable senatore.
>>68579949
Bonaventura couldn't even dribble a lamp post
>>68580042
Bonaventura is an excellent dribbler.
>post yfw Eder pulled a Roberto Baggio on fucking sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c47T0SUoxk0
>Conte does well with the worst Italian talent pool in history
>some Italian flags STILL shitting on him
Why? Are they just butthurt at him for turning Serie A into juvewinslol?
Di calcio non me ne intendo, ma ho l'impressione che bastava un attacco frontale per rompere la Svezia, non tutti questi attacchi e passaggi alle ali
>>68578202
>He's the best defensive midfielder in the world
Is this some kind of dank meme or something?
>>68580276
>does well
No shit, the opposition played so bad I was feeling second hand embarrassment.
>>68580295
>bastava un attacco frontale per rompere la Svezia
E chi lo fa? A centrocampo c'è il vuoto siderale, e gli attaccanti hanno i piedi da lebbrosi.
>>68579631
u wot
Lippi dominated football with the likes of torricelli, pessotto, birindelli, tudor, iuliano, etc
his best defenders were old ferrara and the butcher montero
tacchinardi and jugovic were his starting midfielders for years, vialli and ravanelli weren't great either
>>68580345
He's still living in 2012 or earlier, when he actually was the best dm in the world.
>>68580295
esatto, guarda il gol di eder
>>68580250
honorary itarian
>>68580402
Ma Eder si è letteralmente accentrato dalla fascia, da dove Zaza aveva ricevuto la rimessa.
>>68580178
>double pass
>body swerve
>ball switches on his left foot
>to smash it on his markers' body
there you go, this is all Bonaventura can do
>>68580295
>bastava un attacco frontale per rompere la Svezia, non tutti questi attacchi e passaggi alle ali
non era facile, erano tutti condensati nella parte centrale del campo lasciando spazi solo sulle fasce
>>68578294
>It is possibly the worst off all time
Nah 2010 was the worst one
>memegium
>memebrahimvic and cucks
>ireland
I love italy, but,
yeah no.
>>68577601
They have the best defending in the world
>>68578333
Allegri winning the WC for the Azzurri when?
>>68580384
The only time when Lippi dominated anything with the NT he had Buffon, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Materazzi, Pirlo, Gattuso, Totti, Del Piero, Toni etc
>>68580250
>baggio never won a WC or even a EC
>>68580512
I was talking about 94/98 juve
>>68578534
>hoof it up to lone 6ft5in frontman
You just described England's strategy for most of their history
>>68580512
>unironically listing materazzi as good
>>68578541
>Fat pig
Kek
>>68580623
>unironically not rating Materazzi
Italy would be trophyless for 34 years if it wasn't for him
>>68577699
I agree
we played against meme teams
I want to see them vs Morata or Mandzukic
>>68580771
>vs Morata
>Morata
>good
You'll wreck him. Should be worried about Iniesta, he's going to shit on that midfield
That's the good part about having a competitive league
Most Italian players play in the Italian league, they know each other. Same happens with Germany and Spain
Strong (on paper) NTs with poor leagues have it harder, see Holland, Belgium, Argentina, Brazil
I don't know what's the problem with England though, literally all their players play in the same league and they can't get past the groups stage
>>68578616
El Shaarawy is the definition of overhyped
He blew up at Milan when he scored 16 goals in one half-season and then he went to shit and kept getting injured
Just because he had some good matches for Roma this season don't expect him to ever become world class
Also Italy kind of got fucked up before that
Guys like Gilardino,Montolivo,Pazzini and other meme players that started pre-2006 were always shit
>>68580721
France's "penalty" was his fault.
>>68580820
yes of course Iniesta is better but Morata and Mandzukic train every day vs our defense so they know them perfectly
also what surprise me is that together with Modric, Iniesta, Hamsik, Kante and Kroos, Giaccerini is the best midfielder in the tournament right now
>>68580846
EPL is a meme league, it's simple as that
>>68580915
It wasn't a penalty. It was the ref's fault
>>68580915
Malouda dived, Materazzi didn't even touch him
>>68580954
It's objectively one of the best 5 in the world
>>68581217
spectacular, but still hugely overrated
hardly dominated either match, but i still didn't expect us to be in the Ro16 after two matches at all
the squad is shit, but Conte is a great motivator and this team, despite lacking even basic technique, has shown real character and organization
with some more quality in the midfield (read: with Marchisio and Verratti healthy) we could be a candidate for the win, but like this i can't see us getting past a decent defence, and ours can't be perfect forever
>>68581217
it's a league where the only good point is the speed of the matches. The defences are utterly shit, the players are overrated, it lacks a good number of competent coaches.
It's considered on of the top 5 thanks to the massive publicity it gets worlwide
>>68581378
>>68581270
Name 5 leagues that are objectively better
I can only think in Spain, Germany and maybe Italy
>>68581424
never said it isn't one of the best league of the world, but between Bundesliga & La Liga and the EPL there's a HUGE powergap
>>68581290
You'll win the whole thing. Shit strikers at this tournament and your defenders are monsters. It's as good as won if ya ask me.
>>68580463
>Nah 2010 was the worst one
That year we could have fielded
Buffon
Antonini-Chiellini-Barzagli-Criscito
Marchisio-De Rossi-Ambrosini
Cassano-Gilardino-Di Natale
How was this not better than the current team?
>>68581504
hope you go past the stage my irish friend.
in Palermo we still remember your great fans in 1990
>>68579949
Honestly Cunteh doesn't have much legit options up-front so I understand his thinking
It's not like he has guys like Vieri,Del Piero and Pippo
Instead he has El Shitrawi,Immobile,Bernardwho
>>68580178
CanCuck please
Bonaventura is an average dribbler at best
T. Milan Fan
>>68580396
>when he actually was the best dm in the world.
No,not even in 2012 was he the best DM in the world
He was not even the best DM in Serie A(Mark van Bommel says hi)
>>68581733
absolute bantera
>>68582545
>Mark van Bommel says hi
What the actual fuck..
>>68582502
>T. Milan Fan
Ah.
>>68581646
>Antonini
You're kidding right?
>Criscito
This guy was the Montolivo of his day
>Marchisio
Still hadn't exploded yet
>De Rossi
Mostly same as Marc
>Ambrosini
Are you kidding? I'm a Milan fan but come on...he was never world class and he wouldn't play over Gattuso
>Cassano
That fat fuck is better off stuffing his face with pancakes
>Gilardino
Nice meme this dude was shit-tier and you know it
>>68580915
He made up for it with the goal and getting Zizou sent off
>yfw an Internazionale Player won Italy the world cup
>>68581424
>Italy
>Good
Kek
Was the last time you saw Serie A the year 2005?
>>68582602
Van Bommel was objectively beast during those 1 and a half years at Milan
Don't even start
>>68583005
>You're kidding right?
Better than De Sciglio easily.
>This guy was the Montolivo of his day
Better than Darmian, also Montolivo was much worse in comparison.
>Still hadn't exploded yet
Better than Parolo, also already a Juve starter anyway.
>Mostly same as Marc
Well for you shitter that deny his world class-ness maybe. Not for literally everybody else. Also still better than current De Rossi anyway.
>Are you kidding? I'm a Milan fan but come on...he was never world class and he wouldn't play over Gattuso
Doesn't even matter, both of them were better than what we have now anyway.
>That fat fuck is better off stuffing his face with pancakes
You do realize that there was a time when Cassano was bordeline world class right (actually, you probably don't from the rest of the post)?
>Nice meme this dude was shit-tier and you know it
Dude started for 2006 Italy. You're the meme here Enver. Also still better than Pellè & co.
>>68583005
Criscito was pretty good
Marchisio was better than he is now, same for De Rossi
you're right for the other though
>>68583508
No dude no
Antonini was fucking terrible
Now if you said Abate I could understand
Not really
What's next? Santacroce was world class?
Parolo is only playing because Marchisio and Verratti are injured
I love Ambrosini but he was not much better than current day De Rossi
He was overhyped shit
He failed so hard in Madrid
He was the Balotelli of his day
Gila was just another failed talent
He was terrible in that WC too
Lippi should have started Pippo instead
>>68584191
>Marchisio was better than he is now
In 2010? Definitely not
He started getting really good in 2010/11 season
Gila was fucking great, stop bullying
>ctrl+f
>"heart"
>0 results
And you faggots wonder why a relatively poor national with a low populations dominates European soccer. It's prestige, it's heart it's tradition. Putting on that blue jersey means more to an Italian than it ever will to some fucking kraut or frog.
>>68584191
>Marchisio was better than he is now
>>68584754
>Gila was fucking great
hahahahhahaha
>>68585937
fuck off, numbers dont lie
>>68581424
Serie A
Serie B
Lega Pro
Serie D
Bundesliga
>>68580902
>Gilardino
>Meme player
top kek
>>68586515
DELET THIS
>>68586441
>m-muh stats
according to that list
Di Natale>Del Piero
Gila>Batistuta and Inzaghi
Just stop
>>68586515
He literally was a meme player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCX9Q8e76nA
>>68586821
no that's not how it works, but whoever can score 188 goals in serie a is definitely not a meme
>>68578501
mostly from algeria and morroco
>>68577601
UEFA is shit
They'd be eliminated right now if they played in Copa America
they have six more games,
they already looked spent today
they don't have the stamina or the patience to win this tournament
same thing happened in the world cup and the euros before that
>>68586921
>but whoever can score 188 goals in serie a is definitely not a meme
He scored most of those goals playing a decade in the weakest Serie A of all time
It doesn't mean anything
>>68587104
what the fuck are you saying?
>considered
>objectively
>hardest
>right
>>68587104
>>68587104
>He scored most of those goals playing a decade in the weakest Serie A of all time
that's not true, but besides that, was he the only striker in the league at the time? how come the others didn't score the same amount or more?
>>68577880
>the problem that belgium/the netherlands have and they have always had is that it's hard for the players to feel any sense of national pride for a non country, they should rejoin the German Empire desu
Just accept your destiny
>>68587278
>how come the others didn't score the same amount or more?
They did just that
But anyways
I don't judge players by irrelevant numbers
I judge them by seeing them play and Gilardino was just a failed promise just like Pato
He never was a great player
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/llHR0Oj.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>68586821
Di Natale was legit good tho 2bh famalam
He just had bad timing. He didn't get good until his mid 30s, and when he was at his best, the national team was a mess.
>>68578903
i could only get evens on them today, still, that was underrating
>>68587777
also, the fact he didn't want to play for any club except udinese didn't help.
Juventus and AC milan were both interested in him at one point, but he refused. I remember there was even talk of Barcelona making an offer for him, back in like 2010/11 season.
the worst italian team is still better than just about any other euro team besides germany and sbane
>>68580250
fuccc
hard to believe italy used to play this fast
>>68578202
Cambiasso could still outclass De Rossi without even trying. Seriously, the guy is nothing special.
>hardest group
meme group with memegium and swedmeme
Italy is becoming a meme team too
>>68594370
>t. payet my son
>>68585067
>relatively poor with a low population
you what?
we're 4th in both economy and pop
>>68578150
Pierre pls. You are with nigger and gypsies
>>68587777
>Le FIFA stats xD
If you think Di Natale is anywhere near Del Piero you're delusional
BASED ITALY
>>68580250
Baggio is probably my favorite player ever, an absolute beast. It's soul-crushing that he missed that penalty in 1994.
>>68577880
Nailed it lad
>>68594304
Yep
35 year old Van Bommel was way better then him too back in 2011/12 when De Rossi was at his "peak"
>mfw Van Bommel made a midfield of Nocerino and Muntari look decent
>>68580463
The main reason Italy didn't even advance past the group stage that year was because Pirlo wasn't even able to play until he got subbed into the final game with Italy already down 0-2. Even with Buffon out after the first game and Totti not called up for whatever stupid fucking reason, Italy was clearly much better with Pirlo finally playing.
It is what it is, though. Are MArchisio and Verratti out for the whole tournament?
>>68595521
Yep, neither of them has been summoned by Conte.
Anyway ours is not the hardest group, D group is way harder, although at least we don't always fall into ludicrous groups like France.
>>68577660
>>68577763
Oh shit, i'm sorry.
( anyway,our team sucks way harder)
>>68587245
Holy shit! What happened with Iceland?!?!
>>68585937
He has school. Even if he's not good he can still position and score with one touch in a way today's forwards are mostly incapable of.
>>68587405
Kek
>>68595698
>Yep, neither of them has been summoned by Conte.
They were much better back then. Pirlo had a great last season at Juve.
>>68587405
Whatever you say, Mehmet.
>>68598493
Nevermind, I thought you meant Pirlo and Totti weren't summoned.
