Apologize. Right now!
Gomen
>>68560122
You can still eat the fattest of dicks. America won despite your ignorance.
>>68560122
i'd prefer if you apologize for leaving a gassed bedoya in so that he's suspended.
>>68560122
No
Where was this in games that mattered?
>>68560122
>Colombia
>Costa Rica
>Paraguay
>Ecuador
There's a reason why they are where they are.
>>68560484
colombia is p good
If he tries to pull that shit with Argentina, they will fuck you up
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>>68560564
Why can't people see they're winning despite them?
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>>68560122
Sumanai, Klinsmann-kun
Who will we start against Argentina tho?
>no Wood
>no Jones
>no Bedoya
>>68561173
Pulisic
Beckerman
Zusi
quote me on that
>>68561173
Wait, how come Woods can't play?
>>68561345
two yellows in tournament
Good luck
>>68561173
Why cant wood and bedoya play?
>>68561173
>Argentina
It'll be fucking hilarious if we end up facing Venezuela and still lose somehow.
USMNT victories make me warm in a way that I haven't felt sine the 2006 New York Mets. Am I officially a fag euroboo?
>>68561393
Venezuela wins 2-1
quote me on that
>>68561379
Thats dumb as fuck. He didnt draw a red
>all the mlels cucks who want him out and said we wouldn't even make it out of the groups will now say losing to the argies in the semis isn't good enough
>>68560557
this, and it's why they were the only ones that kicked our asses, that is before Costabros kicked theirs to put us in first place
>>68561414
both have accumulated yellows (2) - miss next match
>>68560424
is this a joke?
If Argentina loses in penalty against Venezuela does Messi kill himself?
>>68561524
This is a joke right?
>>68561601
No, they're both out. We're completely fucked.
>>68560484
by winning a group that included two knockout round teams from the last wc?
>>68561499
It's even more dumb that these shit CONCACAF/CONMEBOL refs give out yellows like candy and then expect players to be able to go avoid getting two in four games.
Euro refs better
>>68560122
Apologies Jurgy I love you.
>>68561283
>>68561173
Pulisic wont start.
Becks for Jones and Zusi for Bedoya.
Might have to start Wondo up top with Demps
Most likely starting lineup
---------------------wondo---------demps---------------
zardes-------becks-------------bradley--------zusi
johnson--------brooks---------cameron----yedlin
Wondo gets subbed for Pulisic who will play LM and zardes goes up top.
nagbe comes in for zusi if they have a lead
>>68561173
Should or will?
I still hate Klinsmann's management
>>68561471
You are now a civilized man John. You will no longer be known as Tryronne.
>>68561590
No. Argentina have to win. The irony being that this tournament is a complete, utter fabrication. Messi will kill himself after he retires and reflects on his career and has to face the fact that his only Argentina trophy is the copa america centenario, a south american tournament played in the USA, a tournament that good teams didn't play their starters in, a tournament that didn't take itself seriously to the point that it banned extra time.
>>68561838
Looking at this I wouldn't mind running the Besler RB move again and moving Johnson to LM and Zardes up top. Wondo should never start a US game again for the shit he pulled against Belgium
>>68561838
>Wondo
Oh god please no oh god no.
>>68561958
>>68561838
>Wondo
>pls not this shit again
Why didn't he bring Jordan Morris?
>>68562020
>shit he pulled against Belgium
What about the rest of the team that day?
Wondo only had one fuck up
>>68561636
I was at a bar that didnt have the sound on for the game. Why did Jones even get his red? I mean they were going back and forth a little after the tackle but I didn't see anything that looked deserving of a straight red. Also, Bedoya looked like he got his yellow for tugging on a guy's jersey a bit. Seemed a bit harsh.
Can Dempsey start up front alone?
Wondo is literally a net negative on the team
>>68562185
>quakes fan spotted
Donovan would have scored
>>68562258
no he only gets space because Bobby and Zardes runs alot, too bad we dont have Morris to cover for Wood, Pulisic is too young to start
Maybe Nagbe will give us some legs though, he definitely needs to start the next game if we want a chance to win
This is objectively the best US lineup for next game. Prove me wrong.
>>68562377
That midfield looking pretty weak. Would probably start Beckerman ahead of Zusi or Nagbe.
>>68562377
Bradley has been too valuable going forward to put on a defensive role. Beckerman for nagbe.
>>68562020
>>68562074
>>68562020
---------------------Zardes---------demps---------------
Johnson-------becks-------------bradley--------zusi
besler--------brooks---------cameron--------yedlin
You are right, this actually is what klinny will do.
nagbe for becks or Zusi if they have a lead
Pulisic for becks if they losing and move 3 up top
looks alot better actually
>>68562185
wondo was supposed to be this super poacher, he had an open net and shot it over the crossbar.
fuck wondo
>>68562258
demps cant play lone striker, not his game and he will get pushed around hard by the defenders. He plays far better when he is paired with someone who presses the defenders and tries to make runs behind. Opens up space for him to play.
>>68562377
What's with Zusi in the middle?
>>68562483
So you're going to judge a player based of a game we should have lost anyways?
Again, where was the rest of the team?
They were just as bad as that miss
We're not good enough to get mad over shit like this
>>68562377
That US defense is actually pretty legit. 2 PL players and 2 bundes players.
>>68562377
I can't.
But it's 100% guranteed klansman won't use it.
>>68562377
We need to load up the midfeild , with Defense.
Do you know who Argentina is?
>>68562483
Bedoya did a good job today helping Besler on defensive duties. I really like FJ in that midfield role because he can help in the same way Bedoya did today.
>>68562502
He can play at CAM, that's why he's there. He's probably the best passer/creator on the team (other than maybe Pulisic) who isn't currently suspended
>>68562377
zusi not a midfielder and you need someone who can track up and down the midfield like beckerman. Nagbe can sub in later when becks gets tired or if they have a lead.
also, they tried the 4-3-3 first 2 games of copa and it wasnt working well. Bradley kept missing the runner and Wood kept moving to center. They were supposed to be interchanging up top but it didnt work out, prob need more practice.
No i still think you should be fired go home
>>68562566
wondo had one job, he is a natural striker, a fucking poacher. couldnt finish on an open net.
fuck wondo.
>>68562579
Yep. And Brooks has incredible potential, as we've seen in this tournament. Just wait until he, Yedlin and Birnbaum hit their primes. Our defense will be scary.
>>68562377
>those empty flanks
>those inexperienced players
Oh my god. this is not a videogame. They will slaughter us with that.
>>68562625
4-3-3 doesn't work when your two wingers both want to play center forward. I'm glad jurgs switched it for what we are familiar with.
>>68562625
>Zusi not a midfielder
He's been a midfielder for most of his career lol fuck out of here
>>68562377
i might agree, but i'm not sure theres enough bite there to play against argentina.
>>68562710
zardes was fine on the wing, wood kept stepping on demps in the middle. If you notice they played much better when pulisic was subbed in.
>>68562729
Zusi can play midfield, but he is better on the wing, much better.
>>68562377
the left flank is open as fuck, you guys will be against the best strikers of the world, not ecuador.
>>68562625
Yes, but now Wood is suspended. Pulisic is a natural winger and won't clog up the space like Wood did.
Also Nagbe is box to box, and much better going forward than Beckerman
>>68561989
Adding... Whoever wins the Copa will not go to the Confederations Cup, Chile is the official CA champion until 2019 and is going to the Confederations Cup.
>>68562672
The rest of the team failed at their positions, except Howard
Cameron was the worst offender
Why don't people hate him?
>>68561522
Against Costa rica we played with literally a XI entirely made of subs and young inexperienced players
We can't play aggressively against the Argies.
>>68562812
I like nagbe alot, but playing against those argies might be too much. Better to bring him in when everyones legs are tired instead of getting torn apart by dimaria or messi
>>68562812
>nagbe better than beckerman in 4-3-3 or 4-4-2
A true dumbass you are.
>>68562800
I agree but I don't think switching him with Pulisic makes the team better
>>68562196
He threw a soft punch to the guys face.
>>68562919
This very well might be the lineup. Something that makes sense
>>68562919
looks good desu
>>68562934
Pulisic is a sub on this team.
>>68562919
This is objectively the best one. Sub in Pulisic for Zusi if need a goal later.
>>68562824
Because sometimes, like today, he's good.
>>68562927
Beckerman is sooooo shit lol, literally a slower and offensively handicapped version of Jones. I could maybe see playing him at CDM and putting Bradley at RCM but Bradley is prone to major fuck ups when he gets pushed that far forward.
>>68563063
So you shouldn't judge him from one game?
Interesting
>>68563098
Not an argument. Wondo is never good.
>>68563068
We should be playing two pivots against Argentina anyway. It's not like there's much choice with the suspensions.
>>68563068
Beckerman is sooooooo much better at playing CDM than NAGBE
>park the bus
>0-0
>straight to penulties
>hope Argentina chokes as always
When will Klinsmann give this guy a chance? He can replace Jermaine Jones.
>>68562919
If we concede with that lineup (which we probably will with any lineup) we're absolutely fucked. There is no one in that front 4 that can do anything in those positions.
>>68561983
underrated post
>>68563167
Look, we've basically had to do that in the last two games because of the sendoffs. And it wasn't half bad. The whole alleged 4-4-2 shape got blown out anyway. And we aren't going to win by trying to outscore Argentina.
The only way we win, and it's not going to happen, but the only way we win is by letting them get complacent and overconfident. But they can't get a chance every time they get the ball.
>>68563158
>implying I ever said he should be playing CDM
Bradley is the best CDM this team has. Nagbe is miles better than fucking beckerman going forward.
>>68563222
Kitchen is shit desu, the only midfielder who should be on the roster but isn't is Feilhaber
>>68562466
The fuck? Nigga we started this run BECAUSE we put him there!
Nagbe is an extremely good MF to help sustain possession. Arguably his problem is that he doesn't have enough offensive production!
>>68563119
Not sure if sarcastic or not bc of filename, but putting Besler against Messi is asking for 5 goals before halftime
>>68563284
We wont go forward. We need both Beckerman and Bradley out there to help out the back line.
Stop pushing meme players and grow up
>>68563505
>we won't go forward
>literally playing right into Argentina's hands
Argentina's strength by far is their attack, we have ZERO chance if we park the fucking bus, bc we will inevitably concede. Our only chance is to attack their weaknesses, i.e. midfield and center defense. Obviously we shouldn't over-extend ourselves massively but we won't win if we give them 70%+ possession like you're suggesting.
>>68563652
So now Beckerman and Bradley starting is parking the bus LOL.
4-3-3 Holding is the best lineup. Possessions are important u dummy
>>68561499
2 accumulated yellows = red
That's a standard tournament rule, it avoids player hitting each other without consequence
>>68563752
see
>>68563505
literally said "we wont go forward"
>>68563652
Messi plays deeper for Argentina, so if and when Bradley turns the ball over we need more players to stop his runs.
>>68560484
Ecuador is ranked 13th in the world, better than France.
I don't give a shit that fifa rankings are retarded, beating Ecuador is a legit win.
What if USA beats Messi in the semi?
>>68562680
For you,
s-sorry
