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>>68550142
so babic is gone then
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>>68550174
>>68550186
This is the beginning of NAPH. You Euros can't understand.

2th for the stupid fucking slide rule.
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also fuck it i'm streaming
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>>68550163
Too shit team for gegenpressing Klopp-style fireworks.
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>>68550228
Just because your team got umpballed once doesn't make the rules stupid.
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>tfw didn't get that last goal to hit 150
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>>68550228
what change?
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>>68550330
Whole season is a failure, delete save desu
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>>68550280
Technically it's twice. They lost a game to the Rays at the beginning of a season on a Bautista slide (which was probably the correct call, considering Jose stuck his arm out as he slid). As shocking as it is, especially on the internet, my hatred of the slide rule extends past my cheering for the Jays. I'll gladly point out when the Yanks or Red Sox get fucked over by the same thing.

>>68550362
"The Chase Utley Rule". Baserunner must begin his slide before the base, attempt to reach the base, attempt to remain on base after the slide, and cannot change pathways for the purpose of initiating contact with the infielder/allow infielder to set up.

Phillies' SS sets up in front of the bag, Pillar slides well before him, makes himself smaller to keep from interfering, stays over and on the bag after his slide and Barney is still called out for Pillar's "interference". It was a brutal call.

It may be 8-0 anyway, but it's all about the principal. I'm all for player safety in every sport, but they've completely neutered the baserunner on infield groundballs if the league plans on maintaining this sort of standard on non-Utley slides into second.
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>>68550515
But that's essentially how the rule was before, it just wasn't ever enforced.
DESU Utley was just fucking retarded and started sliding when he was level with the base.
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>go on 4 game winning streak
>players start to get injured in training
thanks FM
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>>68550584
It reminds me of the crease rule back in the late 90s where goals would be called back if a player's skate was in the crease when it was scored. And then Hull goes and scores the Cup winning goal in overtime on this very play and the league does nothing so they ended up rescinding the rule and have Kerry Fraser come out with some post-hoc explanation on how Hull had possession before his skate was in the crease so the goal should count which does nothing but infuriate the fans. Luckily, Kerry Fraser was smart enough that he never reached out again, years after the event, to admit he made a mistake and apologize for not kicking out Wayne Gretzky because he didn't want to be the ref known for kicking out Wayne fucking Gretzky from a playoff game that was tied late in the third and possibly going to overtime.

Oh wait.
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And then this fraud fails to hit 120
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>>68550733
Sell the choking cunt
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Fuck off we're closed.
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>>68550733
"25"
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>>68550815
JUST
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I'd like to say thank you to the two minutes I was leading in the CL. New personal best.
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>>68550857
an attempt was made
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>>68550914
no attempt was made here, however.
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>>68550857
>>68550914
>>68550951
RIP
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>>68550914
>Martial following in Welbeck's footsteps.
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>>68551013
bastard ruined my hot streak
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>a week to the start of the season
>the two new signings I made got injured
>the striker I loaned from Arselel is in the Olympics
>can't find a decent M(L), not even for loan

>the day before first match
>injured players return to full fitness
>one of my best players gets injured

It's going to be one of those seasons.
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somehow i've started 2-0 with a team built from scratch in 8 weeks.
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>Beat Bayern 3-0
>Lose to 10th place Hertha next game

#Consistency
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>>68551517
#Complacency
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who /Ecuador/ here?
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>>68551993
what the fuck m8?
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>>68551993
You should be supporting your offspring.
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>It's a striker tries to score when he's vertical to the post episode.
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>>68552663
See FM is realistic after all
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R A R E
A
R
E

Wow. Something logical in this game.
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>Phillies
lel
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>>68553180
>3 errors
>17 hits
>13 runs
Christ
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>>68551993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44t3xc_XDes
E C U A D O R ' S Y E A R

For some god forsaken reason I put money on them to win the entire tournament.
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>>68553654
Four-run eighth stemmed from their CF throwing the ball into the stands thinking the fly ball was the final out of the inning. It wasn't.
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In this new season of "This is how we flop"...

Honestly I'd be fine with being seconds due to our shit squad.
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>>68553747
Wow.
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>>68553734
>BetRigtor in charge of good gambling decisions
Unless Grenny in which case >Grenny in charge of good decisions ever
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DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY DEMPSEY
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USA USA USA USA USA

>>68553734
Top kek
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>>68553818
>>68553890
They're realistically the most likely to stop Argentina, but they're too busy getting wanked on by FREEDOM to even get that far it seems.

Great odds on an in form team in an easy group. What can I say? It was tasty.
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>>68554127
Mitch pls.
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>>68554385
that is not me please do not bully me needlessly
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>>68554385
I honestly thought that was a gif of a caster wearing a bald eagle head.
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>>68554455
>Needlessly
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Whomever wins gets the easiest trophy in their club history.
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>>68555078
>counting chickens before they hatch
>not believing in the magic of the cup
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>Not being a defensive sinkhole is the same as being Mourinho
Good game, even their attempts at shitposting are realistic.
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>>68555138
I'm not even worried about Wolfsburg, really.
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>>68555528
>That resolution
Borderless Gaming is your friend. Google it.
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>>68555528
>losing to >schalke
>not resigning immediately
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>>68555629
I don't like fm in fullscreen.
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>>68555675
It's like windowed but without the frame idiot. It's not actually full screen, you can alt-tab in and out of it as much as you want without delay.
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>>68555820
>idiot
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>>68555820
I'm quite content playing how I'm used to, thanks.
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>>68555965
>(You)
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>>68555820
>you can alt-tab in and out of it as much as you want without delay
Fuck alt+tab. Windowed mode + hidden taskbar >

Don't have to take my hand of the mouse until I need to type.
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>>68556080
>He has only one hand
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>>68556133
>implying I'm not jerking it to my regens with my other hand
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>>68556133
A polar bear ate his other hand. Or maybe he lost it in a fight playing hockey.
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>>68556193
>He jerks off with his weak hand
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>>68555820
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>>68556277
Gotta keep the muscle growth even.
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>switch to overload
>don't get a single highlight rest of the game

every time
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>>68556349
You had a dumbbell that you'd lift with your off hand powered by roid rage at FM and Miles' antics I'd believe you.
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>>68555670
I would be kind of bummed if they came in third only because of my loss.
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>>68556782
As usual.
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>>68556782
>6 draws
Yuck
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>Jones
>Valencia
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Someone explain to me why Jones was just shown a red.

>>68556820
They have won a Europa and a Champions League runners up.
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>>68557071
>Second tier cup
>Second in first tier cup
Clockwork.
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Night then Mitch, think your chat died again. Rest Fofana you tool, send him on holiday for 2 weeks
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>>68557071
Fighting, apparently.
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>>68557451
Hmm. I didn't see the incident and my stream just kept showing the foul that got Valencia a second yellow.

Initially I thought he was giving a second yellow to Jones for diving, thinking Jones was Bedoya. I guess if he actually did something then alright.
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>>68557672
>>68557451
Nevermind, it's 100% deserved.
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>>68557672
Flashscore says fighting.
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>>68557970
So dumb especially when you're winning
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>Zardes being useful
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>>68558037
So dumb, especcially when you're winning and they were about to go down to 10.

Jones has always been a bit touched, though.
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Any lipreaders?
>>68557653
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>>68557970
Mark Clattenburg sees nothing wrong with this.
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>>68558112
USAUSAUSAUSA
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>>68553747
>Maribor draws
>We draw twice
Good lord. At least we won the cup.
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most dangerous lead
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laffin
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>>68558538
Maribor couldn't flop any harder.
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>>68558748
FM15 I suppose? Both Belgium and England are overrated in this game.
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>Make loan offer for player
>Accepted
>Loan still hasn't been finalized after 16 days despite no offers from other clubs
>Another club finally makes an offer
>He decides to join them instead

You could have at least given me an answer instead of leading me on for two weeks you fucking cunt.
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>>68558851
He was waiting to see if interest from other clubs developed into anything more. Literally all the players do it unless they really want to move to your club or no other club has even minor interest. Or if the transfer window is closing very soon.
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Recommended team for a begginer in fm16?
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>>68559068
Southampton or Wolves.
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uh....
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>Benzema and Keanu Reeves
Whos career is more ruined right now?
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>>68560327
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The gods of /trb/ work in strange and mysterious ways.
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What are some clubs that have supporters that are right wing politically, other than lazio and zenit?
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>>68561479
> Roma
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>>68562581
East euro shitholes.
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>>68562581
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I always find it funny when D2 teams come to try to recruit you while you're qualified for European football.
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>>68564507
W-well Europa League is fine t-too...
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how did i get to this point
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>>68564782
Americans are kinda unwilling to learn that other languages than English exist.
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>>68562581
Millwall, Rangers, PSG at one point, Real Madrid, Braga, Porto
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>>68564836
>mon visage quand my neighborhood has more linguistic diversity than just French or Maghreb babble
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>>68564935
C'mon, we've also got Serb, whatever African language and Creole on the top of that. But that's irrelevant: how many of these guys immigrated in or are the children of people who immigrated in?
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>MK Dons are in prem and this is their most valuable player

5 goals in 5 games though
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>Enforce a friendly as a part of a transfer deal
>Staff tells me the distance might be too far for said team
>Their stand is fucking full
Ok the stadium has 2.2k places but still. Oil money I tell you. Oil fucking money. Might be the kids of the owner's 72 wives.
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If my team's finances are projected to be in the negative by the end of the season, should I start resigning the players I want to keep now? Does having a negative balance affect how much you can offer players?
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>>68565755
You won't save nor lose money this way. The board decides what the budget is and don't be a retard with it, that's all. If you're in the red, sell players, get good, negotiate tighter wages and less long contracts.
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>>68565809
It's my first season on a new file and I'm managing a Vanarama National League team. I'm spending 35K a week with a 40K a week budget but I'm projected to be over a million in the red by the end of the season, so no amount of player selling in that low a level is going to make a big dent in that.
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>>68566144
Well if the board says nothing about the finances being insecure or something, then it's fine. Except getting gud (for better prize money) and possibly selling (not releasing, it costs money) or giving away players with huge wages, not much you can do.
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>>68566144
that always happens in lower leagues from what I've experienced, like the other guy said though, if you can get rid of some replaceable, high-earning players, that could be something you can do

>yfw there's a 35 yr old club legend on 5k/w
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>>68566194
>>68566457
That'll probably be first on my list. Thankfully my highest earner is "only" 3.6K a week. I can just supplement my team with loans and stuff. I'm likely to be promoted into League Two if that helps.
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>its a slide tackle that is a perfect through ball for the other team episode
>It's a repeat
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Quite honestly, I'm hesitating.
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>>68566808
>Celtic sends B squad for the first leg
>Surprise them
>Hold out for draw in the second leg
37/7 shots. "Nice." My main keeper is still injured for a few weeks tho' and the tactics unpolished. I'm really getting away with it.
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>>68567319
>Win Second round
>An affordable play off draw
Wow. If we qualify we will most likely lose every match but still, the money.
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>>68567740
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Anyone else love loading up old editions and reliving past glory?
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> Tfw a player you sent out on loan plays against you
> he's man of the match, 5 key passes, scores a goal, despite me telling whole team to mark him and close him down and ignore everyone else
> we still win 3-2

Chip on his shoulder the size of mount Everest for me picking the other young CM over him lmao

To be fair the guy I chose over him has been my highest rated/most consistent player, which is why I picked him

Hopefully the other lad comes back next season raring to go
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>>68567954
Old saves bring only pain

>The Choke (June 19th 2018 England Newcastle)
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>>68567954
I play 2005 at school because its the only one that runs on my shitty laptop.
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lowerleaguefootball
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>>68568238
>its the only one that runs on my shitty laptop
>FM 2005
Your laptop uses Windows ME or something?
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in the summertime, when the weather is hot, all my players wanna leave
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>>68568643
and he's gone, fucking manchester city
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>>68568744
>that Scandiavian feel
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Somehow my 3 center backs have only committed 8 fouls, and been fouled 9 times between them more than halfway through the season (February).

The fuck
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>>68568897
we're in 3rd place atm

someone explain this to me

if i was a centerback fucking 8 fouls in 2 games would be easy as shit to do, much less fucking 20
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>First CL ever
>Shit squad
JUST
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>>68569099
>Game crashes upon seeing this
>I have to replay the last leg
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>>68569099
>>68569134
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>>68569242

Happy to get BTFO for this kind of money tho'.
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morning tribblers
>the least interesting option won the poll
damn.
oh well, I'll get started with this later.
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>>68569242
>>68569264
>Crash again
I wish the game would stop having seizures. At least this time I saved after the match.
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>>68569301
Go for WM anyway. Trying a tweaked Ajax this season, for the moment it's complete wank just like my players: they can't create and put themselves in situations where they can even hit the target.
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Four four two is the only thing that makes me happy. Tactical buffoonery only leads to misery. Center backs at fullback and target men out wide. And a goalkeeper as tall as an oak.
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>>68569427
>FM only leads to misery
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>2016
>On his 16th b-day
He's a Free agent, what the fuck is he gonna do for a year, go to school?
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>>68569489
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>>68569427
>Tactical buffoonery only leads to misery.
We don't have any tactical buffoons here. Only tactical fiends.
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>1.5M€ for 800 places
I hope the seats come with a velvet pillow.
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>>68569630
what about mitch?
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>>68569655
He plays a 442.
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>>68569427
:^)
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>>68569766
>TM
Absolo disgusto. At least since the day I've noticed that as long as you use a TM, your players will disregard your tactics and hoof the ball to him no matter what. Instead when I feel like using one I do this instead.

>https://cdeekyfm.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/utilising-the-mobile-targetman-2/
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>>68569655
No, he's just a buffoon.
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yes, get in lads!

now to hope that dortmund wont cuck me in the last game...
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>>68570658
>Dirtmount
If you choke resign immediately.
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>twente stay in eredivisie
>graafschap relegated
finally
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Hum.
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>>68570795

my boy alexandre doesn't want me to go.
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>>68571254
>Young foreign players
Absodisgusto, who do you think you are? Me?
>Merryboard
Reminds me... There are no dynamic rivalries in FM15 (only since FM16). Didn't prevent me from doing the following anyway. I want them to know how much I hate their guts (especially you Marcos Tavares, things nightmares are made of).
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>>68571254

belec missing a sitter...
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>>68571319

another one, jesus christ you useless cunt...
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>>68571373
You're having a better time than I do, stop complaining.
>15 seconds
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>>68571418
Time to go comments only. I don't need to see that.
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>>68571373

yes, my french beauty with another one!

> "slow pace down" on gk, time to play it safe
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>>68571478
I wish my game would crash right now. Pretty please. I could at least simulate it.
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>>68571530
Christ
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>>68571478

oh shit lad... what year are you in?
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>>68571530
F
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>>68571530
>>68571557
>>68571561
>>68571570
>11-0
>It's not even over
>20 mins left
Fuck this, Alt-F4. Can't be bothered to suffer through that.
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>>68571530
>>68571592
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>>68571561
It's 2015 and I didn't recruit jack shit because no transfer money. It's awful, the board expects a title challenge with nothing.
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>>68571522

we got this in a bag now, surely...
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>>68571592
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>>68571623

> tfw your second choice striker steps up and scores a hat-trick, when you need it the most

you beautiful frenchie, you.
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>first couple of french international duties as new manager
>win both games (obviously) and on course
>calm: don't get complacent or we could be crashing down to earth
>all these egos and super stars all agree with me
>jeremy fucking menez: we're all professionals here yada yada

He would be so fucking dropped if I didn't have a lack of fit strikers.
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>>68571749
>>68571530

>WATCHING games
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>>68571803
Fuck off Mitch.
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>>68570658

we're through. i didn't think we were going to make it desu, we started with two losses.
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I guess that's more "reasonable". Fuck's sake.
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>>68571900
>Bayern 10 - 1 Benfica
Very reasonable.
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>liverpoop offer me job
>refuse because fuck that
>suddenly someone is interested in my young finnish right back
>its liverpool
fucking scousers I swear
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He keeps saying this shit, I keep telling him to fuck off and there's still written "Feels the two of you could become friends". What the hell Miles?
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>>68571900

> bayern - benfica

at least you're not them, i guess.
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>accidentally pause game at this point
fuck he is gonna hit it straight at the keeper isnt he
>unpause for a second
ok he is still moving forward with the ball, he is gonna bottle it, there is no way he is not going to shoot from here and waste this chance
>squares it and we score
I think there is a bug in my game lads, why are my players not being retarded
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>#OneOfUs #DynamoLondon #notplayingLLM

>>68572116
Manager relationships were always shallow, it's either what you quoted or "has a poor opinion" in 95% of the cases. Sprinkle it with Miles' desire to push more and more media BS in every episode (including mental games) and there you go. Just ignore him or reply the opposite of what you'd normally say.

>>68571900
>Hertha BSC in Champions League

Still with based Dárdai? They kept him at 3rd place IRL until the last few rounds of the league, despite having one of the weakest squads in the Bundesliga (and thus everybody expected them to relegate). Miles must have patched them because of this run.
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>>68572527
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>>68571418
It's the exact same goal! MILES!!!
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>>68572561
>club legend of Hertha BSC
>most appearances in their 124-y/o history
>rolling contract at the age of 39 until his retirement
>led them to an international cup instead of relegation
>Best Coach Of Bundesliga in 15/16 according to players
>reformed the HUN NT and set the path that led to EURO 2k16
>brought that Bernd Stork to NT manager who made the qualification happen

Dude has mad potential, I'd be interesting to see his PA value in FM2k16. His attributes are little too low, but I guess we can thank that to his young age and lack of Pro Licence back then. Thanks for the profile pic!
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>>68573454
He won the award for best coach of Bundesliga in-game last season too apparently. Realistic.
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Eddie confirmed tactically inept
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And I thought La Liga used to be a two-team league
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>>68574336
Eddie probably believes 22 Minutes is a legitimate news show.
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>>68571882

> real madrid in group stage
> barcelona in 1st knockout round

come on...
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>This game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh6s4FpemZo

MUH MILLION OF SHEKLORZ!!!
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>>68574518
We also officially did better than Maribor did last year by earning two more points than they did.
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>when u hit the woodwork 4 times and lose 0-1
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Sterling would be proud of that miss.
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>Zlatan
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>the city of Éder
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>Sweden
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>Granqvist
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>Buffoon
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>Butters
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3.5 mil for this guy? or is he too slow
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Who should I be lads? Tired of FM16
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>>68577694
Palace, Jedinak runnin tings.
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>>68577668
I would take him. Not just because I like the team and they could use the money, but 18 finishing and teach him to beat the offsides trap and he's PSG Zlatan
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>>68577805
>teach him to beat the offsides trap and he's PSG Zlatan
>implying Zlatan beats the offside trap
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>>68577668
What's his history look like?
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>>68577694
Portsmouth
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tfw Dempsey will win a Copa America before missi.

Ibramemeovic is overrated btw.
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>>68578128
Where were you when South America got BTFO by the United Memes of America and Memexico
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>>68578245
In the Netherlands.
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>"Experts say value of Sterling to fall on Euro exit."

>>68577694
Good catch if he fits into your tactic and be able to take advantage of his age (he still have a year left to be tutored).

>>68577694
West Ham. Rely on the academy as much as you can. Set 5-year goals and focus on signing youth (preferably from UK).
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>>68577887
Hoping to get that 2024 form back
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>>68578376
>"Experts say value of Sterling to fall on Euro exit."
kekked
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>>68578376
>Ed Longly
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>>68577668
I would have him for that price, good finishing and composure, and the mentals in general

still some time to train his quickness if you're worried
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>>68578381
He most likely have low-to-mid Consistency (and probably can't handle the Pressure). His attributes did some foreshadowing, but this is worse than I thought it would be. Only invest in him if you have a mental powerhouse striker (who can serve a tutor) with a personality compatible to his.
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>>68578721
Or it's just that MLS fields, travel and conditioning fucked him
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>>68578721
Scout report did mention consistency, and I dont have a suitable tutor.

I could get this guy for about 1.5 mil instead, thoughts?
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>tfw acting like a complete bitch in the transfer window
I would love to make him part of the team and we are working towards that end.
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>>68578953
All these conditions affect primarily his development, not his form. Another option could have been his injury proneness, but judging from the number of matches he played it's not a factor here. This lad is simply unreliable.

>>68578983
Not a coincidence. He's a useful player as he is, still have some PA and 1 year to be tutored. It's up to you to decide if he can help your team and worth to invest in him. As for this guy: no fucking way. Not even for free.
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>>68578983
But some guy as a player coach for tutors and get the CF. CFs are cheese
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>>68578983
Selfish, no technique, he's a pussy, can't find space to receive passes, and with 9 stamina he's probably going to have an asthma attack during the game.
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>>68578983
Now thinking maybe this guy for just under 2 mil
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>>68579722
>be striker
>be borderline manlet
>can't jump to head ball
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>>68579722
What club are you playing as?
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>>68580068
>>68579722
Also you're using feet-inches. Power to you m8
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>>68580101
Ross County, was 3 points clear of Celtic going into my last game of the season which was Celtic at home and lost 1-0, so they won the league by 1 GD so I'm basically the biggest bottle job in the history of world football. Not sure how signing manlets strikers is gonna help.

Disgusting when British people use centremetres to measure height
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>>68580685
>anyone using centimetres for human height
It's always disgusting.

Feet and inches are handier when it comes to height.
You don't need pin point accuracy for this.

tfw I use stone and lbs too, but nobody here fucking understands that.
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Croatia desu
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>>68581017
Eduardo doesn't play for them anymore right?

Shame he had to get that nasty break
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>>68580939
I understand, but you don't want my flag's approval when it comes to
>tt
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>>68580939
stone is weird, kg and lbs are both alright
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goodday everyone did i miss any good euro football
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>>68582484
Yes, Sweden v Italy was fantastic, you should go watch it in its entirety
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>>68582649
brilliant mate i'll go watch it and not post until i'm done!
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>>68582484
Eder's goal was quite nice actually
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>>68582902
Did he score with an 'eader?
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yeah just saw it was lovely

won my first europa league game 4-1 away :^)

>>68582969
fuck off britanon
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>>68582902
>>68582969
>>68583058

kys
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>>68583145
Thanks for a great contribution to the thread
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>>68583170
Better than that meme boy Joe and the spastic mitch
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>>68583145
i'll try
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>>68583145
>>68583240
wow you are sad
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>CHOKEATIA
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>CROATIA

Tom on suicide watch
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>Tom
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>The traffic flares of Croatia
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>>68580685
>so I'm basically the biggest bottle job in the history of world football

could be worse m8 you could be croatia
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90+10? did someone die on the pitch or something?
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>>68585258
Flare stoppages
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>>68585258
Was meant to be +5 but the pen getting awarded in the first min of injury time held things up quite a bit and then the subsequent celebrations
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>>68585258
Croatian retards threw flares and a bomb to the pitch at 86th min while they were winning, basically giving the czechs a time out.
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Haven't checked to see if its true but this is pretty lel
>>68585272
>Late drama: The Tournament
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>>68585304
>>68585340
>>68585391
So basically the fans cost their team a win. Karma.
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