Is it better to not reach the finals or to choke there 5 times out of 7?
>>68295606
I'd love to choke my way to a triple double every game against the best team in the league
>>68295818
Lol at anyone thinking LeBron is better than Kobe. LeBron is way more gifted physically and has used that to become great at getting to the rim. Kobe had bad games but he never choked, always went down swinging.
>>68295606
>balding
>choking
>black
why live bros?
>>68295606
>choke
>>68295984
20+ million dollar a year NBA contract
>>68295948
you're talking about the guy who disappears in the 4th quarter of 90% of the finals.
>>68296136
no, I'm talking about the guy who won 2 finals mvps and was clearly the best player on the court during last year's series. you're just memeing
>>68295970
This desu. Kobe would have never allowed a mulatto bitch like curry to punk him twice.
Lebron is a second fiddle, he needs a killer(s)
6 out of 7 actually
Ray Allen singlehandedly saved his ass against the Spurs.
>>68296462
This.
The trophy was literally being rolled out for the Spurs.
>>68296307
Kobe should make a rap and say "Turn that 2-5 around its and 5-2 now" to the beat of that Drake song.
>tfw when lelbron retires 2-5 in finals
>tfw when Kobe was 5-2
>>68296712
poetry
Do people seriously think lebron is anywhere as good as Kobe, Jordan, or even Magic?
got into argument with in law about kobe being better than lebron during spurs heat round 1
>mf now
>>68296299
just stop it, bro. the lebron meme is dead. he's completely disappeared in 2 finals now. there's no coming back from that. he's completely removed from being in the top 5 all time at this point
>>68296822
They fell for the meme
>yfw you remember spamming HOW HE KING WITH NO RING? on /sp/ more than half a decade ago
I'll never get to leave this hellhole friends
>>68296822
He's probably top 20
>>68296973
nobody who actually plays or coaches basketball think this tho. 2011 is the only real smudge on his record.
kobe used to rape curry for breakfast.
It's better to try and fail than to never try at all
>>68296124
1 billion dollar Nike contract.
>>68295970
6/24
>>68297055
>no one on my NBA boards on reddit
Fixt. Recency bias is the only thing keeping him afloat. Players aren't ultimately judged in the hype of their primes, but years after they've retired. Lebron will be a novelty, maybe an Oscar Robertson from a weaker era.
>>68297055
>nobody who actually plays or coaches basketball think this tho.
it's literally happening before our eyes. how can you deny it? he's averaged more TO's than he has points in the first quarter. he's playing fucking -awful- right now
really he choked 6 times, saved by Jesus S
>>68296110
It's futile. That's how buzzwords work.
>>68296973
Needs more artifacting.
>>68297055
>play in the weakest conference in NBA history
>if 4 missed Ginobili/Kawhi FT's AND a miracle Ray Allen 3 away from being 1-6 in the finals
>only smudge
Lol this delusion
>>68295606
Losing is losing.
The point is to win the title, anything short of that is a failure.
>>68296918
my daughter's husband if a big Kobe fan and I told him Lebron would finish his career with more rings
is the lebron meme even top10 anymore I'm seriously asking for me and my dad
>>68297687
Never was
I believe that making it so many times (like the Patriots and AFC Championship games) is impressive, but LeBron's imminent 5th Finals loss is just another weapon to be used against him in various bantering
>losing to a meme team
>twice
>losing to an injured meme shooter
that kind of bullshit.
>>68296973
You're insane if you think Bird could get anywhere near those stats in today's game. He would be a slightly above average player at best if he was at his prime right now.
who /feel bad for lebron/ here? christ, i don't think any amount of money in the world would mask the eternal shame i would feel for the rest of my life if i were him
>>68297887
Sorta, only because everyone has been telling him he'd be the next Jordan if not better since high school and he was dumb enough to believe it.
>>68297887
>>68295606
lebron fans doing damage control
>>68295948
couldnt shoot the ball for shit tho
>>68297839
Larry Bird would be a rich man's version of Stephan Curry in today's NBA friend.
He'd literally be a fucking godmode.
>>68296110
no, he used it right
>>68297839
nah he would definitely put up those stats
>>68298147
requesting context
or was just that a beautiful unrelated coincidence
>>68297055
also 2012 was a smudge
ray allen cleaned the smudge tho
There's a guy in Cleveland right now who was born, grew up, graduated from high school and then college, got a job, met a girl and married her, had a couple kids, raised them and sent them off to college. He'll retire in a couple years and his kids will have kids. He'll spend his last Christmas sitting in a chair in the corner of the room, his wife of 50 years having passed away several months ago, popping his cocktail of pills barely keeping him functioning. And he'll look at the TV through his bifocals and see a maroon and yellow jersey flash across the screen with "JAMES JR." emblazoned across the back. He'll let out a sigh, his last breath, and slowly slip into the abyss as he hears his grandson ask his dad, "Think we can win one this year?"
But they can't, and they won't. And the man's grandson will never see his city win a championship, like his father and his father before him.
>>68295970
Kobe had better teammates, he literally got bailed out by Ron Artest
I hate them both but Kobe is worse than being carried, he was literally a liability.
>no team has ever come back from 3-1 in the NBA finals
>it has happened 32 times
Let that sink in.
>>68298389
>what are statistically independent events
>>68298389
>Lebron is about to make history
What a way to win one for Da Land.
>>68298376
>kobe had better teammates
lists Ron Artest's shot even though they were already up by 3
>ray allen's 3 to force OT doesn't register in his small brain
lebron's had two costly turnovers to cause the spurs to have that 3 point lead in the first place
>>68298420
things that don't let sportscasters stop them from filling half of their speaking time spouting off stats?
>>68298376
Shaq and Pau carried Kobe. Its okay. Kobe cant break top 25
>>68298376
lebron cant shoot to win a game
this fact not being a liability
>>68298364
This would sound sad but then you realize sports is just an irrelevant past time and isn't related to people being happy with their life
>>68298537
lebron literally created two superteams with at least 2 all stars at a time in one of the weakest eastern conferences to date and could only manage 2 wins (one thanks to ray allen)
>>68298311
>>68298237
No he wouldn't. Players are way more athletic nowadays. Bird is also not nearly as good a 3 point shooter as Curry.
>>68295606
more like Lechoke
>>68298717
At least post the real one.
>>68298749
nice fan edit, faggot
>>68297055
miami got bodied in 2014
i bet you're one of those people who thinks that a championship in cleveland is worth more than 1
>>68297839
>You're insane if you think Bird could get anywhere near those stats in today's game. He would be a slightly above average player at best if he was at his prime right now.
you're too young to have seen bird then. Larry was insane. Still the best SF the league ever saw. He was one of the best defenders on the floor too (far better then LeBron ever was). one of the few guys who could guard Jordan one on one.
>>68298632
>No he wouldn't. Players are way more athletic nowadays. Bird is also not nearly as good a 3 point shooter as Curry.
you NEVER watched bird.
>>68297055
2014 is much worse than 2011 legacy wise.
2011 was growing pains combined with Dirk going god mode.
2014 was a historic blowout by the same team they beat in 7 the previous year making that win seem like a fluke.
>>68298591
So you've never seen your favorite team win a championship after following them for most of your life? I pity you honestly.
is he choking, or are the cavs just a retarded organization. if he was almost anywhere but the cavs he would won at least 2 more.
>>68296973
>>68297839
>The world never saw Bird and Jordan playing together at their prime.
god is a cruel motherfucker.
>>68299057
2011 was a very winnable series but lebron didnt show up at all. hell they had like a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter of game 2 and ended up losing that. 2014 was an all time great spurs team
Losing a majority of the time makes you seem like a choker.
>>68297839
Bird would stomp this faggot league by himself
>>68299310
but he wins the majority of the time. would you rather lose in the 1st,2nd,3rd or the final round
>>68297023
That meme still gets heavy play in /hoc/ thanks to henrik lundqvist
>>68297839
If Bird had the training routine of a modern NBA player he'd rape the league for fun
>>68299114
LeBeta picked the players and the coach on this Cavs team.
This failure is on him.
>>68298260
No, choke best describes OKC. As for the Cavs? They're just simply outclassed.
>>68296462
>>68296625
Why does everyone forget LeBron made a 3 prior to Allen's 3.
People have some convenient memory losses.
>>68300569
This. He fell for the Kevin Love meme just like everyone else did.
>>68300764
LeBron haters are easily the most illogical people in sports. They just can't help but choose to hate him.
>>68300764
Because LeBron went 1 for 4 in the last minute of the game, and had at two TOs too if the memory serves.
The convenient memory loss would be forgetting LeBron went for the game tying 3 and missed it.
>>68300866
Without Lebron they wouldn't even be in the finals much less have a shot of Allen "saving" the game.
>>68300764
its not just that, bosh got the rebound after a missed lebron shot, threw it to allen 8s left, all 5 spurs swarmed him bosh still under the ring, so had allen missed, bosh would have got the rebound and lebron/wade wide open other side of the perimeter
however lebron had like 6 turnovers in the 4th to get them into that position
>>68300889
Goalposts. The point is it's much better to forget that final minute if you're a LeBron fan. He scored on 1 of his 6 possessions.
>>68297839
>t-the game was different back then
>he ain't as good as muh bron
Dude stop. This shit is embarrassing.
>>68299057
2014 was solely on Wade for shitting the bed
>>68300961
Goalposts, its easy to think lebron is a shit player even though he's been in the finals 6 straight years
>>68301049
Strawman, I never said anything about him being shit, I just said he chokes in crunch time, which is a statistical fact.
>>68298364
Bro. As a Warriors fan, that made me sad af. I kinda feel bad that Bron will never win a championship for Cleveland.
