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> woy and neville
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>68093580
Source:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/03/england-wayne-rooney-start-euro-2016-roy-hodgson
>england out in the group stage
>again
is hodgson an irish undercover agent?
It's truly incredible how one man can somehow bring his club and national team down with just his presence on the field and still earn a highway robbery of a salary
>>68093752
He's the highest paid European manager he doesn't have to do shit
How can a person be so blatantly delusional and stubborn in the face of so much opposing logic?
This explains religious people desu
He's easily their best player
>>68093786
>>68093786
I think it's quite obvious that the FA is forcing Woy to put Rppney in the starting XI to satisfy sponsors and money. Brazil's federation do this and so do many other national teams so it's not surprising
>>68093786
The problem is that he is the national team captain so I think Woy feels he can't leave Rppney out.
Problem here is that both England and Man Utd have fucked themselves by naming Rooney as their respective captains as he started declining badly
>>68093802
as a striker vardy and kane are better. as a number 10 alli is better. as a cm wilshere, milner and henderson are better, and as a dm dier is better.
>>68093829
There is literally no reason why you couldn't bench your captain or change the captain any day you want.
Teams do that all the fucking time.
>>68093843
>henderson
lol
LOL
>>68093829
weird that the politics of having a captain, which isn't a role that even does much anymore, can fuck a team up so much.
>>68093843
Rooney is better than both Henderson and Milner as a CM. Definitely better than Henderson.
>>68093855
England place so much stock in who their captain is though
>>68093862
>>68093868
it was hard to type it desu, but he probably is marginally better than pooney at cm
Alli is the #10 we need to build around atm. Stop hanging on to the hope that Rooney can play there
>post yfw some crazy russian hacks rooneys legs off in the first minute of the euros
>>68093899
Gigi looks like a hobo forced to play with the others. I like it.
>>68093919
BUT HE DIDN'T SCORE SOME GOALS 8 YEARS AGO AGAINST ANDORRA
I think Rooney's defensive work rate will make him better in the hole desu. Roy's mentality is that even strikers have defensive duties off the ball
t-this'll be the last tournament with pooney r-right?
But I thought it was 'coming home la'???
Is Rooney really that bad ?
>>68093979
no, he's just not as good as the specialists in all the positions he could occupy, except maybe hendo at cm. alli plays better through balls in the number 10 position, and doesn't run into the strikers' space like pooney does with his old striker instincts.
>>68093979
no, we just have better/more in form players in the positions hes most likely to play
But hes just the captain, so he will start.
also really hope we dont play the diamond, england is even more trash without any width
>>68093928
I would but you already posted it
Based George
>>68093961
supporting england is very like supporting liverpoo, with a similar boom/bust cycle. but it's a lot faster and happens multiple times in the build up to a tournament and also once the tournament has started desu
>>68094012
>Biggest talent pool in Europe
uhhh
Remember when Rooney used to counter attack with Ronaldo at pace? Remember he used to be able to get past a man by intelligent runs or dribbling?
He hasn't done that done before the world cup. Get RID
>>68094066
Spain, Germany, France
Now u guys know how United fans feel. Doesn't matter if he plays like shit. He'll come out with a meme goal out of no where and the manager finds it impossible to bench him.
>>68094066
Are you retarded?
>>68094081
What about you guys
Is this "football superpower by 2050" thing real or fake
>>68094066
tons of countries lad, our talent pool is shit
>gerrard dead
>lampard dead
Rooney is the last one lads. He's the last faded star who was never that good to begin with who gets automatic starts in teams in which he offers nothing.
After this tournament he'll retire from international football after being shit and anonymous and at the next WC Woy will have already been sacked following failure at the Euros and England will have a based young team of decent players rather than ageing selfish nothings.
Just two more years lads.
Does Rooney himself believe he is a world class player and deserves to be in the starting side and be captain?
that's it, they're fucking finished
>>68094253
I'm hopeful
Going far in this tournament will be a curse if it gets roy a new contract
>>68094253
>implying Gerrard was "not that good"
Fucktarded gook get your slanty chink eyes examined maybe then you can properly evaluate talent.
>>68094253
Gerrard and fatty lamps where both excellent for their club sides, and Rooney tore up Euro 2004 and we should have probably won it desu, he's not done anything at a tourney since but that was probably the best teenage performance at one i've ever seen he dragged england through it
>>68093580
Welp, out in the group stages again.
>>68094253
>never that good
all three of them were great in their primes
>>68093928
>Rooney gets paralysed in the match against Russia
>Meanwhile Kane and Vardy score a dozen goals between them
>Woy insists he'll be back in the starting eleven for the knockouts
>>68093601
>“You’re talking about the player who has played 111 games for England and scored 52 goals, so perhaps his best position is anywhere on the field,” he said pointedly.
I get so triggered by this man. The closest thing to a goal against a relevant team was against Brazil in a fucking friendly 3 years ago. Nearly everything else he's done is against former Soviet states and micronations
Is it any wonder Rooney is the 'top' striker for England when he has been the only one allowed to play for 13 (thirteen) fucking years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney
>Play amazing football when Rooney out injured
>Say no one is guaranteed to start
>Dismantle the team by forcing your favourites in and leaving out other key players
>Play Rooney in his position to the determinant of the team
>Team plays poorly but Rooney plays well
>1 point
Should have sacked this fraud years ago
DId the same in the last world cup moving Sterling from behind the striker to accommodate Rooney so he could get his WC goal
>>68095102
>“You’re talking about the player who has played 111 games for England and scored 52 goals, so perhaps his best position is anywhere on the field,” he said pointedly.
he genuinely thinks rooney scoring against the faeroe isles 8 years ago counts for something in this tournament. old senile fucking cunt, i hate him
Roy will get a new contract after the Euros because there's no other standout options.
Big Sam and Pardew both signed new contracts recently and are focused on their clubs.
Martinez has been exposed as a fraud.
Redknapp is old as fuck.
Way too early for Neville.
Who do we actually get after Roy?
>>68095224
Southgate
>>68095267
he awful
>>68095224
Mourinho, in all seriousness a foreign manager is needed, all english coaches are shit and the costs are too high, still with the JFs for some years and let young coaches work their way up
>>68095316
>he awful
he literally just won a tournament. I'm not saying he'll bring it home or anything but he's more competent than that old bat
>>68095336
and got exposed in one last year where we managed 2 goals and finished bottom with HK leading the line
That's it. I'm not going to the pub. I'm not putting the telly on. Fuck the Euros.
>>68095224
Louis Van Gaal
why cant england into managers
you need a strong ScotGOD to learn your boys to glory 2bh.
>>68094066
Switzerland, Austria, Portugal, ...
>>68093786
yes, why wont woy just drop their all time top scorer in the second biggest international tournament? what a fucking idiot right?
>>68096126
Tbf it would make a lot of sense to drop a guy who has proven multiple times that he doesn't deliver in international tournaments.
>>68096126
Saying he'll be mandatory isn't necessary though. I got the impression Rooney hates the international pressure, in particular the tournaments. Strip him of his captain role and treat him like any other player, maybe as a sub, and I'm sure he'd play somewhat better.
>>68094066
Luxemburg
>>68096162
yeah just like the last WC where he scored and assisted Englands only 2 goals in the tourney?
fucking english cunts
>>68096286
When did Canadian posters become worse than American posters?
>spends the season converting to CM and playing there for Utd
>Woy puts him in as No.10
Dumb af. You shouldn't be playing in one position for club and another for country. No doubt he'll start Wilshit and Henderson too. Prepare for another group stage exit.
>>68096336
why are English NT "fans" the worst fans on earth?
>>68093580
He's a great left winger. It's no coincidence that Man Utd won the CL when he was on the left.
Can anyone give an answer as to why in >current year, Roy has such a hard on for Rppney and Wheelchair? I honestly cannot understand how a manager can make these moves in all seriousness if he's trying to field the best and most in form team.
>>68096578
wilshere is actually decent, all things considered
rooney is dead weight though
>>68096336
canadians are probably the most awful posters per capita 2bh. hate the cunts.
>>68095224
what about Fergie?
is he retired forever?
>>68096627
Fergie is a NEET now. He's never going back to his old life.
>>68096578
>if he's trying to field the best and most in form team
Protip: he isn't.
>>68096681
well, then you're fucked for some years until you convince Mou to do it or you find something else
>>68095224
Howe or Harry
Redknapp would definitely be up for it
