ALI IS DEAD!! GOOD!
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Now that Ali is dead we can finally concentrate on the greatest heavyweight boxer that lived: Wladimir Klitschko. No one (except maybe Lennox Lewis) comes close to the boxing achievements of Wladimir.
TYBK
glass jaw klitschko is supposed to be the greatest boxer of all time?
is you serious?
even grandpa vitali would still knock him out
the klitzkos are boring in the ring and outside. They'd be more watchable if they had some sort of evil Russian warmachine persona like Dolph Lungren in Rocky 3. But apparently theyre nice guys IRL so fuck them
So Ali was basically the Pele of boxing? Considered the greatest of all time simply because there was no real competition back then and the sport was shit in comparison to today?
>>68091912
At least he could box, Pele couldn't dribble
>>68091912
it's possible that Ali would probably be considered average to today's insane superhuman boxers. But looking back at old fights, especially how dominant he was, really says something about his objective skill
>>68091858
>Rocky 3
At least get the right movie
>>68091965
>especially how dominant he was
Except he wasn't. Most fights he barely won or he won by strange circumstances like the Liston fight where "members of the Nation of Islam kidnapped Liston's wife, Geraldine, and Liston's son, Bobby. Liston was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again".
>this butt blasted euro trash spamming every ali thread
The fact that ali was a 3 time heavy weight champ in the golden era of heavy weight box trashes your shitty opinions and little infographic you got there. George foreman and Fraizer would have raped everyone in todays HW division and so would have Ali. Stay delusional though and hating on greatness just because the guy was a black muslim
>>68091996
>So Ali was basically the Pele of boxing? Considered the greatest of all time simply because there was no real competition back then and the sport was shit in comparison to today?
This is some shit tier conspiracy theory. Liston literally part of the mob who smashed peoples kneecaps in with bats. Most of his fights were fixed but there's no denying he was a great boxer. Ali outclassed him.
>Not dominant
His resume shits on every heavyweights except Joe Louis who is interchangeable for #1 depending on preferences.
Ali has more ATG names on his resume than any other Heavyweight and of those ATG names 3 of them are in the literal top fucking 10.
>>68092056
>George foreman and Fraizer would have raped everyone in todays HW division and so would have Ali.
People said the same thing about the early 90's. Lennox Lewis used to be talked about like Deontay Wilder is today.
The fact is that there's is a ton of great talent at HW today in Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz, and Parker. Each one outside of Ortiz is larger than "Big" George Foreman and towers over Frazier and Ali.
It's actually been a huge talking point among boxing analysts on how quick and agile Ali was for his size but that's peanuts compared to Tyson Fury's agility at 6'9" and 260 lbs.
>>68092065
Ali has more ATG names on his resume than any other boxer to lace up gloves. He's beaten the best from multiple eras. It's not like his era was weak either, the literal number 2 of his time in Foreman came back in his 40s, got a world title and had Tyson running from him.
>>68091702
>Wladimir Klitschko
Who the hell is this nobody?
Superheavyweights ruined boxing.
>>68092163
>boxing is measured by physical traits only
Dude there is a reason no one gives 2 shits about boxing today. None of those guys can match up with the guys from Alis era in term of fighting and technique. His resume speaks for its self thats all I have to say about that.
>>68091912
Possibly, but if he was boxing today he'd be training at the same elite level. He was the first person to reclaim the Heavyweight title twice and fought with more tactics and skill than anyone had seen before. Guys like Goerge Forman were bigger, badder, fitter and harder hitters than Ali but he still beat them.
He was an astonishing figure politically too though.
>>68092260
You're wrong on every part though. People DO care about boxing today everywhere except America. In fact, it's more popular today in the UK than it has ever been. Technique has also been improved upon since Ali's era. Don't act like a faggot because you read an article here and there. I don't believe for a second that you actually follow boxing.
>>68092163
Wait, Fury is actually good? Thought he was just a fat meme
>>68091933
Ali could
Wladimir is a chinless piece of shit Eurobum who couldn't throw a combination to save his life. He's beat literally two good opponents, a blown up cruiser in David Haye and that little midget Povetkin.
Vitali was a way, WAY better fighter. Vitali and Lewis would be the two favoured in any era of boxing history.
>>68092260
>Dude there is a reason no one gives 2 shits about boxing today. None of those guys can match up with the guys from Alis era in term of fighting and technique
Yeah, Mayweather, Whitaker, Holyfield, Lomachenko, Barrera, and Lewis are technically inferior to the 70's era boxers. lol!
>>68092336
He is a meme but he's actually really good. He's not even that fat. He just blows up between fights. People will point to his journeyman fights earlier in his career but that applies to most fighters. You can look through any division and see fighters who don't bother to make weight as they are building their careers because it's not punished at the lower level.
Seriously, anyone who calls this fat at 6'9" unironically shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>68092400
Vitali has a worse resume than Wlad though.
Wlads wins over Sam Peter and Chris Byrd are also very good wins.
>>68092454
>sam peter
>good win
Pick one you dumb fuck. Peter was fat nigerian bum who went life and death with a blown up and washed up James Toney.
>>68092498
You're a bit too emotional mate
>>68092454
Peter and Byrd are fucking bums literally all the top 5 heavyweights today would beat them (maybe not Wilder because he's a glass jaw basketball player but who knows).
>>68092498
>Peter was fat nigerian bum
He was neither a bum (he was world champ), not fat (he had a six pack).
Your post shows that you're clueless.
>>68092260
>Dude there is a reason no one gives 2 shits about boxing today
Boxing is bigger than it ever was. One fight of Klitschko fills arenas and is broadcast to 100+ countries.
The Ali vs Liston fight (which deluded boxing nostalgists consider a proof of Ali's greatness) had an attendance of 2000!!
Here are a few more examples:
wlad vs chagaev 61000
Tyson vs Lennox 15327 (almost 4000 seats empty)
tyson holyfield 2 (ear bite) 16000
ali frazier thrilla in manilla 28000
ali frazier I (the supposedly biggest fight of the century) 19500
Boxing nowadays shits on past eras.
Suck byatch kurwa
Butthurt Slav knows no vodka nigger boxer will ever be mourned
The gyspy king is destroyer of slavshits
I fucking hate russians
