Wow... This really makes you think...
So? This goes for about every sport in existence.
>roma
KEK
>>67945597
'No'
>>67945597
Says the guy with a two team league.
>>67945490
Allsvenskan is the league with most parity in Europe.
If you want to watch it the only relevant matches are:
AIK - Djurgården
Hammarby - Djurgården
AIK - Hammarby
Malmö - IFK Göteborg
Malmö - Helsingborg
AIK - IFK Göteborg
the rest are completely and utterly irrelevant matches.
makes me laugh when JFs think it's impressive to pump all the money in their country into 1 team and win things
>>67945634
What's your point?
>>67945634
Ajax is one team, anon
>>67945659
Your league is literally "lel Ajax/PSV winz". Must be a bore to watch.
>>67945681
MLS is horrendous though and it's the only league that has different champions on a regular basis
American sports might have a flawed system but the draft and salary caps make the leagues dynamic
I remember in 2010 the nfc West was the joke of the league. Rams and Seahawks were both 6-9 and fighting to be the 7-9 division champs
Now they're the most competitive division in the league
From the Big Leagues, Premier League is being the most interesting league in that regard; you can have until 4-5 champions contenders (Arsenal and Tottenham, I'm not counting you).
La Liga is more interesting too than Serie A (loljuventuswin), Ligue 1 (lolpsgwin) and Bundesliga (lolbayernwin)
Also:
>Real Madrid
>>67945737
Maybe I'll pump one out for the MLS real quick to test that theory.
>>67945762
But basically only four clubs earn silverware with consistency in England. It's only been in the last few years that Manchester city had that influx of Arab oil money, giving them a chance to win the league
And with Manchester United still not in regular form after the retirement of sir Alex it's just propping up perennial losers like spurs and West ham
La liga is horrible, dude
>>67945737
The thing with european sports culture is that the system is based on clubs.
Clubs are a community organisation that focus on sports. When you want to play a sport you sign up for the nearest local club.
And leagues are based to fit this club system as well, meaning clubs fight their way through the division system to get to the top league.
This means we cannot lock the top league like in america, because that would go against the current system and would be unfair to other teams.
The club system is good in the sense that it rewards hard work and punishes failure. While our societies reward success and take care of those who didn't manage to make it.
USA is the complete opposite where the society is built on punishing the failure and rewarding success, while the sports culture gives top talent to the worst teams and limit the top teams to not be able to sustain their success.
>>67945737
It's not too different actually.. Sucks we don't have a third place, though, maybe would have varried it up.
>>67945860
The problem with relegation/promotion is that it's not sustainable in every country, and in fact can lead to catastrophic financial situations. Look at darlington or any of the other teams that have folded because of immense pressure to conform to top flight stadium standards (in hopes of making a legitimate run at promotion to the epl) only leading to astronomical ticket prices, supporters groups going door to door asking for donations to help keep the club afloat, a completely empty 8 figure stadium that will probably be torn down in twenty years, and a team that has already folded
I feel like the promotion/relegation needs to be very seriously reformed because you'll see more instances like this happen. Especially if salaries and ticket prices double in top flight clubs (which they will, that is, until they triple)
>>67945858
I am with everybody who says La Liga is boring because is only Madrid-Barça (thanks for saving us from that these last years, based Atletico)
Still, is way better than Bundesliga where you already know in week 1 Bayern is going to win it.
>>67946212
>3 same teams is better than the same 1 team
>>67946212
?
There have been more diversity in title winners in the Bundesliga than La Liga in the last 10 years.
Also Barca won the title the same amount as Bayern.
>>67946212
That hasn't been the case ever. Bundesliga is an awesome league cuz they have like ten really competitive teams that can all hold it down in European competition, there are games like every day of the week, and bayern - although the most decorated club - does not have any guarantee in league wins. Albeit they've played really well in the last two or three years it's by no means a one horse race in their league competition. It's not Scotland
Unless you were a fan in the 70s I guess
>Image doesnt include the prestigious Major League Soccer
Well fuck you too
>>67946476
>MLS
>Image is titled EuroParity.
>Teams all European
>I wonder if there's a theme.
>>67946488
America used to be part of europe before the dinosaurs.
>>67946536
The op clearly is trying to start a "Europe sucks at sports go merica" argument and including mls in the table defeats the purpose
>>67946318
>There have been more diversity in title winners in the Bundesliga than La Liga in the last 10 years.
this
>>67946719
Not at all; Just comparing all the different leagues across Europe. I could also do Asia, S. America, etc, as well.
>>67945737
le ''everybody deserves to win'' system
such a pussy in sports, and such an asshole in international policy, whats wrong with you people?
>i wish champions were random so winning means nothing
>>67946797
As opposed to the two horse race that is Spanish soccer? No thanks
I would love to see malaga or Valencia win the league, but it'll never happen
>>67946895
If everybody is capped at a certain amount then the win would mean so much more, since it takes money out of the equation
>>67946946
why put a cap on success
>>67946895
>teams can'y buy their way to success
>this means winning means nothing
The thing is, the well ran franchises still win frequently.
See: Pats and the fudgepackers (And Soon™ to be Vikings)
>>67947008
To level out the playing field
>>67947071
>competition
>>67946946
So socialism? Don't you guys get brainwashed so you get triggered at the mere idea of that?
>>67946913
Well, next years are supposed to 'equilibrate' La Liga a little bit, teams will receive television rights more equally (for example Sporting received 2M in 2014, will receive 40M next season). Still far from the EPL system, but its a start...
I'd love to see Malaga winning as well ;_;
>>67947109
>1-3 teams dominate a league
>```````````competition''''''''''
>>67947131
>tfw Tenerife will never EVER be relevant
>>67947128
>how you run your country is the same as your sport entertainment
BUILD
>>67947175
they were when they fucked Real Madrid league title two times in a row in the 90s
>>67947109
I don't understand. If every team has the same finances at their disposal then team management, player development, and compromise between players and management are all that determines a teams success. Nothing to artificially inflate a team like an influx of foreign cash
>>67946031
where are the sounders
>>67947281
> If every team has the same finances at their disposal then team management, player development, and compromise between players and management are all that determines a teams success
And without a cap all this still applies and not only that, increases in magnitude as you need to perform consistently over years.
>>67947313
Xheattle
>>67947332
Not true at all
The first and last place team should have to work within the same budgetary confines. If one team can maintain some consistency (Chicago Blackhawks, San Antonio spurs, new England patriots) then all power to them for their success. But you can't simply say that money buys wins in American sports, except baseball, where money absolutely does buy wins
>>67947128
There aren't enough trump supporters for him to actually win. And no swing voters are gonna vote for him either.
There's nothing socialist about the leagues with salary caps; it's just good business to share profits and keep an entire league competitive
>>67947457
Unless you're a shit league, that money doesn't come from nowhere. There is nothing wrong with money buying success if that money came from decades of success.
>>67947581
Look at the epl. They're even starting to back peddle on the influence foreign money has had on the atmosphere. I wouldn't be surprised if shirt sponsors become a thing of the past, considering that it's fucking embarrassing for top flight clubs to depend on paint companies or gambling websites to pay their bills
Why is murica so obsessed with parity?
>>67947741
Jew media influences public opinion and political agendas I'm sure they're profiting off of this conversation even
>>67946032
It's the clubs own fault if they can't run it without fucking up their economy.
>>67947741
What is Financial Fair Play then?
>>67945737
>different champions on a regular basis
Don't you guys have playoff to win the championship? it's silly to compare a system like that to normal leagues.
>>67948476
Yes, the MLS does use a play-off based system where the top 5 teams from each conference play a tournament at the end of the season to decide our MLS champion, so, yes, it's hard to compare our league to other leagues from around the world since our league tables honestly don't matter, because you could have more league points, but you lost in the tournament, so lol, you're not champion.
Most of us don't mind the play-off, but we do have a problem with being financially restricted with players and what you can do, so we can't establish a worldwide presence of signing top prospects, building a better training system for Americans, etc.
>>67948194
I blame the system, not the clubs
Because there's too much pressure to find new revenue sources, which is quite unsustainable. If there was a cap that wouldn't be the case
Look at Anzhi Makhachkala from Russia. Or that Chinese team where drogba played for awhile. They pumped way too much money into the teams and eventually couldn't even pay the bills. So they had to gut their teams very abruptly.
>>67948476
Yeah what's the point. Regular season champ is no guarantee of victory either
Playoffs are great
>>67948749
Dude honestly it's the only way for the league to stay afloat; we don't need teams folding all the time like they did in the 90s that was such an embarrassment
>>67946031
>new england
JUST
>>67948893
I can understand your fears, but trust me, the MLS and the teams that make up the league aren't going anywhere any time soon, or ever. If anything, the salary cap/designated player system is hindering the league more then it is helping. The MLS is the fastest growing league in America; with soccer becoming the fastest growing sport, already passing the American sports norm from time to time in viewership.
We have partnerships with ESPN, FOX, SKY, etc, to not only broadcast our home games locally, but all over the world; even on-demand streaming with MLS Live. If MLS wants to step up to the plate, it needs to drop the salary cap, the designated player nonsense, and start bringing in European imports to build better stadiums, better training grounds, and start developing youth at a young level. It could already be on par with The Premier League if they wouldn't be so fickle about things. I mean, look at LAFC and the owners group; They're sitting on billions.
>>67945490
Argie league is better than at least 3 of them and Brasileirao is better than 5 desu~
>>67945490
>Bayern in 06-07
What went wrong?
>>67945490
>only top league in Europe with 4 different champions in 4 seasons
>watching argentina league
>new exciting games every time
>sometimes boring as fuck games (sarmiento-temperley
>never know who's gonna be champ
>people want it to be more like europe
They gonna take my fantasy away ;_;
>Palmeiras
>>67945737
>MLS is horrendous though and it's the only league that has different champions on a regular basis
Not really, mexican league, brazilian league, probably others through Latin America constantly have different champions.
>>67946031
>our Murikkan system promotes and fosters competition by putting a cap on player salaries and also how many "superstars" a team can have.
>Scotland
>Greece
>>67945490
Leeds mentioned
>>67955408
what a great league
>Palmeiras tho
>>>Botafogo
>>67945490
>Roma was runner up more times than Juventus was champions (they were stripped of 2004-05)
holy chokes batman
>>67945490
About how fucking autistic you are
having the turkish league in front of the portuguese league really triggers everything in me
>>67949122
They're looking to make a profit and build a franchise
If they wanted to sink billions into a club they would've gone to Europe
I'm glad we don't have to deal with this bullshit :^)
>>67960956
yeah the games are rigged and stadium security concerns / hooliganism are swept under the rug but at least there's no concerns with money coming from cartels
oh wait they run the show in FMF, just like the mafia does in italian soccer
>>67945597
nope
>>67945490
can any argie make one of these for the primeira división
