How will he be remembered 50 years from now?
>>67811861
>Literally who?
The Peyton Manning of the NBA. A regular season babby who will never be as good as the GOAT.
>>67811898
>Owning nearly every statistical category at QB
>Not the GOAT
That guy who wasn't as good as Kobe.
>>67811931
Tom Brady exists.
the guy who will go 2/10 in NBA championships
>>67811964
if we're going to go by championships than otto graham is #1
That guy who lost game 3 and 4
that guy who starred in the shitty space jam sequel
Greatest nigger of all time.
>>67811984
How many postseason game winning drives does Peyton Manning have?
as the one who brought one to da land
>>67811964
>carried to 2 superbowls
>cheat to win the other 2
He's literally drexler tier
>>67811964
Yeah, and Manning leads their playoff series and won 3/4 of their AFC champs, in addition to owning practically every stat category at QB
That guy who passed when he had Kyle Lowry in the post
>>67811984
If you go by a combination of stats and rings, it's Brady
>>67811861
the guy who got carried by wade, bosh and key role players to his only 2 championships
>>67812025
>Manning
>not carried
As the guy who sent Toronto to the Finals that one time
>>67811898
>>67811898
>peyton manning isn't GOAT
plz stay away from /nfl/ threads in the future
>>67812013
Doesn't need them. Too busy not being shit in the first half like Brady.
>>67811964
>bawwston fags
>>67811984
>>67812025
>>67812066
STATFAGS BTFO. I don't wanna your faggot regular season stats either
>>67812075
Except Tom Brady has more postseason success, so that's an invalid point
>>67812032
Tom Brady has every postseason record in existence except losses. Pey-Pey is a regular season stat padding babby.
Tom Brady scored late game, go ahead touchdowns in all 6 of the Superbowls he played in. Peyton lost Superbowl 48 by a greater point margin than Tom Brady has ever lost ANY game
>>67812066
Hgh, carried by his def this year, beat a bears team with no qb in the rain because his rb carried him. Lost to midget brees.
GOAT
>>67812013
He had one against the steelers just in these past playoffs. He has had a few actually. He had another one against patriots in the AFCCG
>>67812075
This is pure cognitive dissonance if I've ever seen it
>>67812035
One category mostly reflects individual skill and effort while the other mostly reflects the skill and effort of the entire team. Now tell me which should be weighed more heavily when discussing which player is best at a particular position
>>67812089
Yogi Berea isn't better than Ted Williams
Robert Horry isn't better than Michael Jordan
The best athlete of all time
>>67812089
But see that's the biggest meme of all. Manning's regular season stats aren't even really better than Brady. Slightly more TDs and yards per year but Brady has less interceptions by a decent margin. It's a wash.
>>67811931
>Big head
>Goat
pick one. hes a regular season baby. his first ship came from being carried harder than ive ever seen, and his second thanks to my boy D Ware.
>>67812066
pls take your own advice
>>67811861
like tom brady
they both will go down as one of the all time greats of their respective sport, but they will also both be remembered as huge babies.
>>67812127
Peyton Manning isn't better than Tom Brady
>>67812092
His TEAM lost super bowl 48 by that margin you fucking retard. Just like Brady's TEAM won those super bowls. Whereas Manning and Brady's actual stays are more indicative of individual performance which is the points of stats to begin with
>>67812144
Brady has better o-lines and is a check down baby. Peyton is more aggressive and fun to watch. Brady is boring. Peyton needed to carry his teams. Tom benefited from a well coached team. More than half of Peytons NFL coaches have been fired.
I remember in the 2011 finals he passed out of an ISO play against Barea. No other superstar in the NBA would be that much of a pussy.
>>67812189
>Brady has better o-lines
>Brady sacks in 2007: 16
>cassell sacks in 2008: 48
Brady makes the O-line good and everything else you said is just a bunch of meme bullshit
>LEBALD
>>67812187
>when Manning wins, it's because of him
>when Manning loses, it's because of his team
>when Brady wins, it's because of his team
>when Brady loses, it's because of him
>>67812216
>Bellicheat not a HOF coach
>Cassel still winning 11 games when brady was out
>the colts winning two games with peyton out
>Peyton brought out the best of his entire team with different coaches and even different locations.
>Manning has literally never played well in a loss
>Manning is literally the only player to throw more picks than TDs in the playoffs and win the super bowl
>he literally did it twice
HOLY SHIT PEYTONS RETIRED, LET IT GO PATFAGS
from someone who thinks brady is definitely better
>>67812144
So we'll just pretend that a higher completion percentage, yards per play/game, TDs, along with all the other stats, don't matter for the sake of your retarded argument. "lol I just like Brady more so it's a wash xD"
>>67812258
>Pats had a decent backup
>Colts didn't
>colts were a 10-6 team
>Pats were a 16-0 team
>>67812261
If he doesn't play well the, with the exception of this year, the whole team doesn't play well because they rely on peyton
>>67812264
>turning the ball over much more doesn't Trump slightly more production
>>67812280
>Cassel
>decent
Wew lad
>>67812285
Get the fuck outta here with your Disney casual bullshit
Reminder Peyton Manning played the Titans, Jags, and Texans twice a year. Reminder once he played real teams in the playoffs his stats went to shit.
>>67812308
>made the pro bowl
>in KC
Kill yourself
>>67812300
That is the nature of his offense. Peyton doesn't run a bellicheat check down offense/throw it up to moss/gronk.
>>67812258
>colts didn't suck for luck
>cassel didn't have one of the the most stacked teams in NFL history to work with (including Randy Moss)
>pats didn't miss the playoffs anyway
>peyton hasn't had every team he ever played for built specifically around him
>the broncos didn't circumvent the salary cap to stack their team with talent during the Manning era
wew lad
>>67812328
You know nothing about football.
>>67812308
He won 11 games with the Chiefs
>>67811861
This thread answered that question better than I could have hoped.
>>67812342
You're the one that doesn't know anything
>>67812328
top jej
>implying Moss/Gronk weren't/aren't decoys on 80% of offensive snaps
>>67812346
what's more telling, the one season where cassel was decent or the other 5-6 where he was putrid?
>>67812356
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
>>67812160
He is as a QB. Rings don't make you better faggot
>>67812089
>>67812322
Reminder he leads the playoff series against Brady. Reminder he won 3/4 in the AFCCG when it mattered most. I personally don't give a shit about playoff wins when looking at which player was best in their position because I'm not a retarded cunt, I just want the patfags in this thread to stare into the abyss of their own ineptitude
>>67812247
/thread
Oh wait, this was about LeBron.
>>67812395
seriously what the fuck is with that blotch on his forehead
>had Clark, Harrison, and Wayne for like 10 straight years
>threw more 3 step backdrop timing routes than any QB ever
>Brady gets called the system baby
>>67811861
TheGod that won ten straight for the Land starting in 2016
>>67812349
>>67812397
This beautiful cherrypicking
>thread supposed to be about how we view lebron
>turns into manning vs brady again
than you based ESPN comment threads oh i mean /sp/
>>67812089
Peyton beat Tom head to head in Championship games, how do you deal with that fact?
>>67811861
The guy who bridged the post peak Kobe era to the next one.
>>67811861
The greatest player of all time, whose accolades include handing Toronto their eternal 0-1 conference title record.
>better career TD:Int ratio
>2 more rings
Everything else is a meme
>>67812349
this is underrated
>>67812375
Exactly. How many great fucking HoF players have spent their careers on shitty teams. Pats fans will never learn. I can't imagine how it feels to be an older Pats fan and finally be validated only to have these young mongoloids who know nothing about football and don't even realize that there was a Pats team before Brady and Belichick latch onto the fanbase and drag it into shame and retardation
Le man who choked on basketball
>>67812365
>le decoy maymay
>>67812495
>le no germane response maymay
>>67812247
I know the reading comprehension on this board is shit, but I'll try. STATS, not WINS you stupid fuck
>>67812409
He's making fun of you, retard
>>67812483
I was there for the 1-15 year. The years when it was team's going to St. Louis because no one wanted to keep them as the old stadium was a dump and Foxborough wasn't gonna pay for a new one because it's barely a fucking town.
They were floating possibly putting a stadium in fucking Providence or Hartford for godsake. Team was good as gone.
I've gone around where they planned the Providence site and it'd be no way in hell you could get fans in there becuase of how badly the city was laid out and 95 is already bad enough downtown without that.
So it was just a pipedream.
Then LA got cucked and things got crazy.
>>67812559
Not the same guy.
>>67812483
Pats were not relevant prior to the Brady-Bellichick era, just like the Bulls weren't relevant prior to the Jordan-Jackson era
only cucks root for a shitty team
stay blasted
>>67812476
>Ignore all of the numbers that don't fit because just because
>meme in the face of player stats
You know, even aside from the shitposting, it's no wonder patfags are the laughing stock of this board. Do they still have schools in your corner of the greater Boston area or is everyone pretty much just smoking crack and dodging used diapers on the sidewalk by now?
>>67812658
>Forgetting about the mid 80s Pats
I shiggy diggy.
They face anyone but the Superbowl Shuffle Bears and they could have won it all.
>>67812835
>could have won
>could have
>could
>>67812874
>pats fans literally shit talking their own team
will wonders never cease
>>67812905
>losing should be praised
yeah 18-1 was totally a triumph for the franchise
>>67812835
holy crap...
super bowl 20 was literally a meme team beating up on an even bigger meme team
>>67812939
How he king with no legitimate ring
>leBeta is so irrelevant he gets his threads hijacked by arguments over what other athlete is a real GOAT
>>67811861
A conference babby who couldn't win a championship without a stacked team
>>67811898
I agree with this except that Peyton was humble and universally liked, while Lebron had an ego and was disliked by many.
>>67811861
He won't be. A comet will plow into the Gulf of Mexico on May 5th, 2021. Extinction Level Event.
>>67813284
>mfw i already planned a three month fishing trip in the gulf for that same time period
ground zero is higher probability of survival, right?
>>67812939
At least they didn't use the meme offense of the 49ers.
>>67811861
He'll be remembered as the most athletic specimen of our generation, maybe of all time. The whining and the flopping will be remembered. So will his philanthropic work, his non-existent criminal record and the fact that he is married to the mother of his children.
>>67813345
Unironically this.
I get memehating but LeBron is literally trying to save Basketball and athletics from the Draymond Greens and Currys
>>67811861
A transitional footnote between the Kobe/Duncan/Shaq era and the Curry era
Think Isiah Thomas winning two titles between Bird/Magic and MJ
>>67813284
WHAT THE FUCK! My birthday is like not even 5 days from that AND I live near the GULF!!! Fuck man you take that back!
>That guy who values fantasy stats over wins and championships
>>67813479
>that guy who doesn't understand that we're talking about individual accomplishment
>>67811861
The guy who ruined space jam
>>67813451
>Curry era
>mfw peytonfags seriously try to argue that regular season stats are more relevant than playoff wins
>>67812329
Pats did miss the playoffs that year tho
>>67811898
Manning fags BTFO
>TB12GOAT
>>67812075
LOL are you fucking retarded? Manning went one and done so many times I can't even count. >>67812075
>>67812247
Holy shit this is exactly how brady haters argue. I've never noticed that before.
>>67812103
And Brady has too many to count. Brady probably has more post season game winning drives than peyton has post season wins
>>67812189
Your point about "exciting" is literal cuckoldery. Being GOAT is inherently exciting. Brady may seem boring to casual senpaitachi because he makes everything look so easy. >>67812189
And Brady makes his olives look good. The only time he ever had a good one was 2007 and he broke all types of records.
>>67811964
>Tom Brady exists
funny way to spell Joe Montana ontario...
Daily reminder that Joe Montana is the real GOAT
>4 superb owls
>3 superb owl MVPs
>never lost an owl
Bradycucks should kill themselves
He won 3 rings when he was Teddy Bridgewater tier. Fuck off.
>>67813105
>the ultimate cuck athlete
>>67813451
>cuckry era
>implying
kek
SO ANYWAYS I THINK LEBRON WILL GO DOWN AS A TOP 5 PLAYER OF THIS ERA AND A SHITTY ACTOR
>>67817233
>espn
lol get the fuck outta here
You have 60 seconds to name one NBA player from 1966
>>67817379
Bob Cousy
>>67813284
Oh thank god. Can't happen soon enough
>all this handegg discussion
>>67817328
>it doesn't count, I'm telling you!
Fucking loser
>>67811898
but lebron doesn't have a brother who is the goat
>>67817209
The never lost an owl is stupid as shit. Brady made it to two more owls than Joe montana, meaning his team made it farther into the playoffs than montana two whole seasons.
>>67817233
Popularity contest =/= GOAT.
I hate Michael Jordan but he is the goat.
I hate tiger Woods but he is the goat.
Wayne Gretzky is okay but he is the goat.
>>67817641
So what? He won 3 being a white Teddy Bridgewater.
Some people here aren't casual scum just so you know dumbfuck
>>67817655
>all these people voted for Manning because they're just jelly and love his nationwide commercials
Patscucks are such fucking morons.
>>67817656
Brady led the league in TDs in 2002... his first actual season starting
It was a different NFL back then, god damn your football knowledge is piss poor
>>67817669
its an espn poll that was posted at 3am
if thats your big evidence then I actually feel bad for you
I'll go with Joe Montana's opinion that Brady is the best of all time. You can disagree with Joe if you want to though, its a free country.
>>67817670
>be Teddy Bridgewater tier and get carried to 3 owls
>Patscucks pretend it didn't happen
>>67817655
I'm sure if they made a poll asking who was a better player between Gretzky and Messier most people would say Gretzky
What a pathetic excuse
>>67817684
Here's a different one you salty Bradybitch
>>67817730
Its the same exact one, just posted at a different time
Brady is the GOAT, deal with it pusssssssyyy
>>67817742
it has 100 times the responses and Tom got BTFO again.
This is pathetic damage control bro
>>67817749
you are using ESPN as a real source, thats as pathetic as it gets
>>67817755
double dubs comfirms
I'm a friendless NEET living with his parents with low self esteem and hasn't had sex in 5 years.
I'm still not as insecure as most Patriots fans
>>67817755
>ESPN doesn't count!
>this poll of sports fans with 100,000 responses is meaningless because my QB lost
Just stop
>>67817379
Fucking Wilton Norman "Wilt" Chamberlain.
>>67817755
DUB DUBS
THREAD IS OVER
>>67817641
>get to 2 more owls
>carried by your team
>lost
Fuck these Manningfags are delusional as fuck.
LeBron will go down as the GOAT of his generation. All time he'll slate somewhere after Magic.
>>67818854
>Bradycucks call others delusional
>>67811861
Unironically the King, being the greatest player of all time. It'll take two decades to break all his number 1 all-time spots and no one will ever have as many top 10 accolades as he does
The stop gap between Kobe and Curry.
>>67811861
>Soft
>Flopper
At least he has a couple rings so he may keep his shitty "King James" nickname, although how he king with no rings was/is/and will always be hilarious.
>>67818155
>implying the 2007 team carried brady to the superb owl
Lol
>>67812033
