Tell me something not reported by the so-called "sports media," anon.
Michigan is shit
>>67694872
/thread
organizing a mass suicide soon.
>>67694872
You know, he's got a point.
>>67694908
when a PAC-12 team wins the NCG, it'll be the last team anyone expected, like Stanford, or Utah.
6th for Gators will win the East
Will Urban win one for da 'Bus?
>>67694872
fpbp
Who else /OhioStateStudent/?
Just fuck my shit up, sanpai.
Good morning, /sp/.
Is Hurr State done for good?
>tfw you'll never join the SEC
>tfw you'll never even leave the ACC
We'll save the Big 12 if you give us a chance!
>>67700689
they have a good team lined up this year and they could get a big 12 invite
>>67700877
>no major conference will ever bite on your meme football success
Oh well, weeknight games and annual trips to Detroit are good times.
>>67700877
Geography, soonpai.
>>67700986
Geography, soonpai
>>67701024
YA KNOW, legit maybe, I think the MAC is a little too far down the totem pole, and no original MAC team has every moved anywhere, even as MW/CUSA/AAC/SBC teams jump all over the place, Get into one of those and we'll talk.
Who will win the sec west this year? Are bama and ole miss facing sanctions?
>>67701024
Join AAC when Cincinnati leaves
>>67701711
That would be their smartest move, but haven't the original MAC teams remained unmoved since the Roosevelt administration?
Official playoff prediction:
1. UGA
2. Clemson
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
>>67701973
>Two SEC teams
Reality does not work that way.
>>67701359
They added West Virginia
>Alabama
>USC
>Ohio State
>Oklahoma
Without memeing, post a better playoff. This would be absolute GOAT.
>>67702091
>Oklahomo
>Playoffs
They better not show their faces considering what happened last year
>>67701925
Ohio University is the only original member remaining.
But members in the MAC do tend to stay a while. Northern Illinois is a newer member. Anyone with half a brain would ditch that conference because it's going no where. I only like Northern Illinois for football but I don't know how it will fit for basketball. AAC originally invited East Carolina as a football only member because the AAC wanted to keep a strong basketball conference ( UConn, Temple, Memphis, Cincinnati, SMU). Perhaps they can just invite NIU football only
>>67702025
Alabama and UGA both go undefeated in dominating fashion and UGA beats bama in a close SECCG = they both get in.
>>67701973
>UGA
Nice meme there, anon
>>67703364
How so? They've finally got a good coach and the best quarterback in the country. They are absolutely stacked top to bottom.
>>67703442
>best quarterback in the country
There's your problem, anon
>>67703324
>GA
>undefeated
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha
>>67702302
Basketballs actually about to catch up to football. We just had our first 20-win season in I forget how long, and 2 of the regular starters were freshmen. We'll see how next year goes, but hopes are high for another solid season.
>>67703442
>best quarterback in the country
>>67703570
Jacob Eason you ignorant fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imhH86mFgHw
that is literally the best spring practice of any freshman QB in history at any school. look at that 3rd throw (around the 2 minute mark) and tell me thats not the best pass you've ever seen from a freshman.
>>67703675
>spring practice
Just stop.
>>67702034
>the Big 12 added WVU
And they look like fuckin' morons for doing so. Fuckin' meme-ass team and their OMG desirable West Virginia media market.
They need to boot those fuckers ASAP.
>>67702091
>>67702235
>greatest
How does OU get held up as some sort of end-all for superior teams? They're not even the best team in their own conference.
>>67703874
Just saying it's not that big of a stretch
If they get Clemson they probably also get Florida State
>>67702302
How long has NIU even been there, the only MAC movement I can remember is Marshall coming and going pretty quickly, they were only a member for like two years or something, and this current UMass mess. Other than that, membership has been 100% more static than literally every other FBS conference.
Plus, a MAC school jumping to the AAC over a CUSA school would piss a lot of people off, and that's fun too.
>>67703324
The committee is under no obligation to pick 1-2-3-4, they pick the conference champions with the best record. In your scenario, Bama is out.
Your SEC arrogance is predictably refreshing, though.
>>67703442
I think the part you're forgetting is that you're Georgia.
>>67704035
The fuckin' problem with this argument is that it is entirely logical and sensible, and benefits the most number of people, students, and college athletics as a whole.
The Big 12 is not interested in that. The Big 12 wants to give the most money to UT, scraps to the rest, and expects this business model to work, even after it nearly killed them a few years ago. How's UT gonna justify the Longhorn Network if there's an actual 2nd good team with alumni, right there in the same conference?
I don't see it. They'll pick some ISU-quality AAC also-ran and tell them to be thankful for whatever TV exposure they get.
>>67694939
Stanford has consistently been one of the best 2 or 3 teams in the conference for years now.
>>67703324
>UGA going undefeated
gee I've never seen this meme before
>my face when people actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the country will miss the playoffs next season
>Brandon Peters (objectively and statistically the best QB in the 2016 recruiting class, it isn't even debatable)
>Ty Isaac (best RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike the entirety of last year. he will put up 1200+YDs/10+TDs/5.0YPC)
>Jake Butt (a top 3 TE already going into this season, 1000+YDs/7+TDs)
>Sean McKeon (literally a Jake Butt-clone)
>Amara Darboh (top 10 WR, 900+YDs/5+TDs)
>Jabril Peppers (a black guy trapped in a black's body, one of the smartest players in football, elite measurables, incredible upside)
>Kareem Walker (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)
>Joe Beneducci (best blocking FB in country)
>Best pass rush in the B1G
>Best LB corp in the B1G
>Besy secondary in the country
>Top 5 D-Line
Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Wolverines are missing the playoffs this season
The Michigan B1G championship drought ends in 2016-2017
You can't prove me wrong
Cap it
>>67705569
>white trash detected
Best QB in CFB history
>>67703324
>UGA
>going undefeated
>>67700877
The SEC is still moving west, I don't think you'll ever get picked up because South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee will just block any attempt in the east.
>>67702034
Everybody knows they have good athletic teams, but the Big 12 looks retarded and the ACC/B1G avoided them for a reason.
>>67702091
Miami or Florida State would be a better fit over Oklahoma since they'd both pick up more swag fag idiots that aren't on the west coast.
>>67703442
There's no guarantee Kirby Smart will be a great head coach. Remember, Will Muschamp was a defensive coordinator for Saban and he sucks and Mark D'antonio, one of the most average-acheiving head coaches, is ALSO a defensive coordinator for Saban. There's a good chance you'll juat remain at the same level of Georgia success.
>>67703442
A coach who has yet to ever be a college head coach and a QB who has never played college ball. Damn, team of the century.
>>67705569
Reminder that Jabrill Peppers will win the Heisman
Woodson 2.0
>>67695561
I bet you don't even stop and listen to the bagpipes
>>67707811
isn't Peppers moving to LB?
>Fournette back, finna win Heisman
>Average QB back for 3rd year
>Based af Defensive Coordinator
>Alabama and Ole Miss at home this year
>Les Miles 4th Quarter Meme Magic
>Based af recruiting this past year
Give me one reason why we won't win the natty come January.
>>67705014
>implying anyone expects anything from the PAC-12
They are the Vandy of the conference, a team which also strung together a few successful years. Keeping that shit up is an entirely different matter.
>>67705569
>Our team is really good on paper
>It is a fact that the playoffs will happen, it's already decided
You sound like a god-damn Cowboys fan.
SEC Goals:
>Win NCG
CUSA Goals:
>Maybe an ESPN anchor will say one of our team names on the air during primetime
Feels not great, man.
>>67708111
Vandy had two winning seasons, and in both they finished fourth in their conference. Only in one of those years were they above .500 in SEC play. That is not comparable to Stanford's run, which has been going strong since 2012.
>>67708257
>since 2012.
I meant since Andrew Luck, if you take out one or two down years. Also, I meant Vandy finished 4th just in their division.
UConn is going to the Big Twelve.
>>67704659
phew. the first time i read that i thought she meant she'd be in the booth. ESPN/ABC are trying their damndest to get a female in the booth- they've already ruined sunday night baseball with that shit. i fucking hate ESPN so much geez.
>>67704197
Wait, so you think there will be 4 undefeated teams in the playoffs? LMAO. Alabama had 1 loss last year, how did that work out for them? protip- the won the national championship. If bama goes undefeated and their only loss is against an undefeated UGA in the SECCG, guess what, they'll have the same record as last year.
Where will Art Briles coach now that he's gonna get fired?
>>67709130
offensive coordinator at LSU would be my guess.
>>67709130
Replace charlie strong.
>>67708182
maybe bein will give the conference help
>>67704181
They joined in the 90s when they joined the FBS
>>67708257
So which is more impressive, and think real hard about your answer:
Two winning seasons, one above .500 conference, in the //SEC// ?
..... or Four winning season in the Pac-12?
If you pick the first choice, I'm right and your post was pointless. If you pick the second, we admit the SEC ain't all that.
Choose wisely.
>>67708300
>Hawaii is joning the B1G
That is literally what you sound like right now.
>>67701973
>three teams that made the playoff last year make it again
College football is a joke
how many backup quarterbacks will we need to beat OSU this year broz
>>67708513
>Bama made it in with one loss, therefore they can make it in with one loss again.
Your logic is faulty. Bama won the SEC that year. Losing to an undefeated team in the last week will not get the job done, the committee will pick a 0 or 1-loss team that can actually win its conference.
I know it confuses you illiterate SEC fags, but the BCS is over now. You actually have to win on the field to make shit happen.
>>67709609
>waaah its not fair!
>>67709371
Maybe. Going back to ESPN from Fox won't hurt either, of this I am certain.
>>67709636
I'm not an SEC fan, I'm a Washington State fan.
>>67709652
>i enjoy boring, monotonous sports
>>67709655
Rivera and Fluffy came to campus to film an episode for some tv show today about food
I've won multiple natties.
AMA
>>67709570
>managing 4 wins against kentucky, uf, uga, mizzou, tenn, scar
>impressive
>>67709750
what schools did you compete against?
>>67709570
>>67709772
Not to mention that Stanford has won the PAC-12 three times and the Rose Bowl twice, and been competitive much more. It's not just "winning seasons" in the PAC.
>>67709782
We didn't compete against any, that implies we had any competition
5 times la
>>67709750
when are you moving to fbs
>>67709669
>Wazzu
Then you have an inferiority complex and need to understand the Pac-12 is one bad-SEC-recruiting year away from winning the NCG.
I mean, now Wazzu or Colorado, of course, but... the other teams.
>>67709721
>Charlotte 49ers
WHY THEM, FUCKIN' UPSTARTS
>>67709871
m8, your only hope is that USC gets back at it, Oregon has proven they can't do it and Stanford can't either.
>>67709772
Remember when Florida was good?
>>67709798
>not just winning seasons
And Tulane has a national championship too, what's your point?
>>67709815
Don't have the numbers to fit.
>>67709888
Because Jerry Richardson is throwing millions of dollars into their program.
>>67709909
>Remember when Florida was good?
Are we talking about 2008?
>And Tulane has a national championship too, what's your point?
No they don't, and even if they did that's irrelevant. Your comparison of Vandy and Stanford is that they have both had a couple of years of the same level of recent success, which is complete bullshit. This comment makes me think you're baiting, though.
>>67709888
I assume to highlight key areas in the city
>>67709905
Oregon couldn't do it WITH CHIP KELLY, but the structure is there for someone who can get over that hump. Stanford came within a couple of pieces.
USC and UCLA both have the structure, and Utah has been hanging around so who the fuck knows how THAT happened.
They may surprise. Shit, negro, OU made the playoff so anything's possible.
>>67709888
>head coach of Charlotte's NFL team visits Charlotte's FBS football team
It truly is a mystery.
>>67709925
Meh, their hoops are good, a D-1 move is all fine and dandy. I just meant why are they on some shitty TV show and now us other G5 teams in need.
>>67708020
LSU winning natty desu
>>67708020
bama D-line
>>67710376
This tbqh
>>67708020
>impyling Jacob Eason won't win the heisman
You heard it here first folks. I've already put $700 dollars on that and I'm putting in another $100 each paycheck :)
>Georgia fans talking shit
it's that time of year again I guess
CAn we pleas e talk about the triple option or air raid teams
Georgia Southern(Both Fast Nigger quarterbacks returning)
Navy
Army
Air Force
Georgia Tech
Air Raid:
Massachusets(Abandoning the air raid?)
Bowling Green(Lots of Travis Greene Yards ABandoning the Air Raid???)
WAZUUUU
Syracuse(Maybe a new edition they have hired that faggot coach from Bowling Green)
Will we lose Bowling Green as an Air Raid team due to the new coach
Thawtfeel when college football is literally the only thing I love. It makes me cry thinking about it sometimes. Sitting there during the winters in flo rida watching bowl games. Literally the only thing I love. Sun Belt games, or should I say Fun Belt Games. Watching that Nigger Freddi Knighten for Arkansas State run all over App State. Or maybe even Taylor Lamb have a big game.
4AM at the airport looking at results seeing Timothy Mcveigh the running back for Air Force had 3 touchdowns. I miss that. I miss collehge football.
I am an Alabama fan buthonestly I'm just a fan of the sport.
>>67710510
I've honestly not even heard of this faggot. Looking like a baby faced faggot from who sucks dick for free in the gay club in South Atlanta. Big boy liking the big boy dicks.
Fournette will win the Heisman if any one on Georgia wins the Heisman its the big nig Nick Chubb or the Haitian sensation Sony Michel if Nicky Chubb hasn't graduated
>>67705569
I remember the last time the Wolverines were hyped this much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9zpDEsqrbs
>>67709655
>Old Dominion
>Charlotte
>North Texas
Damn C-USA has some shitty teams
>>67711454
I'm an acquaintance of Taylor Lamb. He's gonna have a breakout year this year- keep your eyes on the Fun Belt, old /sp/ort.
>>67711845
I like him, typical funbelt quarterback. Lost pretty much all of his wide receivers and Marcus Cocks is a good RB. App might switch to more run heavy. I worry for my boy
![CZ2lZ1gUkAAfGwt[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Rfc6Zlo.jpg "CZ2lZ1gUkAAfGwt[1].jpg")
>>67711572
You never heard of the number 1 QB prospect of all time? sad!
>>67712026
Honestly only care about Alabama and my top 10 fav teams .
1. Alabama
2. Miami
3. Florida
4. Georgia Southern
5. Georgia Tech
6. FAU
7. Navy
8. Florida State
9. UCF
10. USF
Talk about those teams. Or the Air Raid Boys or the Triple Option teams. otherwise I don't know shit
>>67712026
Tennessee's defense will eat him. Not alive, they'll kill him first.
G5 RANKINGS: PRESEASON EDITION
1. Houston
2. BYU
3. Boise State
4. Toledo
5. San Diego State
6. USF
7. Western Michigan
8. Western Kentucky
9. Temple
10. Appalachian State
>>67712026
he'll be a disappointment just like everything else from UGA
>>67712136
Those days are behind us. No more Richt = no more crushing disapointment.
>>67712026
Faggot dont even got the Hoover flip, hes a pussy downright. No good white QB in the SEC hasnt had the Hoover flip
>>67694872
seconded
i'm at tOSU and i graduate in a year lads
>>67712206
Congrats on being a white trash homosexual
>>67712179
>Hoover flip
whats that?
>>67712206
tfw when a fag boy at a public miwestern university with 60k enrollment pretends he graduates froma psuedo-ivy but he went oto the same university as a bunch of faggot midwestern bumpkins.
This is for Ohio State and Michigan fake as good schools
>>67711977
They'll continue to rely on the run more this year- Cox will share time with Jalin Moore.
Lost a lot of WRs- hoping Shaedon Meadors will be the answer for the passing game.
>>67712312
John Parker Wislon hair
You can see it on the show Two-A-Days which was based at Hoover High. Hoover is a rich area in Birmingham Alabama but not as rich as Mountain Brook Alabama.
>>67712318
top kek
who /collegebaseball/ here?
I used to make threads for it but I was lucky to get 3 replies
>>67712162
Yeah, back to the storied program UGA was before Richt.
![jacob-eason-mug-by-michael-carvell[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xXslh3L.jpg "jacob-eason-mug-by-michael-carvell[1].jpg")
>>67712382
Close enough m8.
Post your trophy game lads:
pic related.
App State vs. WCU: Battle for the Old Mountain Jug
>>67712576
Are the Catamounts even D1. I'd know this shit sober. Are they a new D1 team?
>>67712603
nah, that was App State's rivalry game before they moved up to D1.
Now their rivalry game is against Georgia Southern, but there's no trophy
G5 CONFERENCE POWER RANKINGS
1. AAC
2. Mountain West
3. MAC
4. Sun Belt
5. C-USA
Will SCar be the comfiest team to watch?
>>67711713
The first two are FBS n00bs and NT is just getting over a shitty coach. Chill.
>>67712103
Toledo?!?
The MAC isn't allowed to have any schools on this list, if they get a good coach they move to the B1G the next year. Anywhere else requires sustained success.
>>67712853
LOL NO
1. AAC
1.5 MWC (aac has the edge due to a better top team, but the lower levels are all equal trash)
2. MAC (more likely to have a ranked team at some point this season
3. CUSA
4. SBC
And CUSA is about to get a $$ bump.
friendly reminder oregon state came into existence two years prior before ohio state and therefore is the true OSU
>>67712853
Not sure which is better graphic
>>67715831
>"LOL NO"
>proceeds to post almost identical rankings
>>67715937
the one you posted is utter shit, desu senpai
>>67715831
Senpai, CUSA has three of the shittiest teams in all of FBS in Charlotte, ODU and North Texas.
at least the Sun Belt is cutting ties with Idaho and NMSU, easily their two worst teams.
up you go
>>67712388
College baseball is probably the second biggest sport in my state other than college football
>>67716409
YOU'RE SHIT
>>67716433
College football fans have the shortest goddamn memory. Suddenly UNT is in the same category as two FBS upstarts, just because UNT had the worst 2015 possible? Coach fired, problem fixed. They have as many resources as, say, UH.
CUSA as a whole has better resources, I wouldn't put them last. SBC cut ties with two shitty teams, yes, but they've also added shitty teams (Georgia State a few years ago, Coastal Carolina for next year), so nothing is gained there.
Plus, it's the top of the conference that matters, not the bottom. By that metric, the SEC sucks because Vandy.
Can the Big 12 just add Memphis and Cincinnati and be done with it?
BYU is a fucking trash-heap anyway, but they're not adding a MST team with WVU in the fold. Get on with it.
>>67708300
UConn is a perfect fit for the ACC
Legit should get invited
>>67723409
Fuck no
No more fucking Yankee basketball schools
Stop this shit fucking NOW
Who here /newcoach/?
Coming off a winless season I'm not expecting much but I'd be more than happy with a record over .500
Kinda excited to see this new "Oregon" offence, apparently we recruited some fast players and the next Mariota from Hawaii
>>67723469
The ACC should just dump FSU and Clemson and add UConn, and Notre Dame should join as full members. Instantly a better, more sensible conference.
>>67715831
>And CUSA is about to get a $$ bump.
How? Their new TV contract is literally less than half of their old one.
>>67712388
Always wished college baseball was more relevant.
>>67723554
I doubt Florida or South Carolina would ever let those teams join the SEC.
>>67723469
You're already a shitty football conference with a few outliers. Might as well excel is basketball which you're arguably the best conference in
>>67723554
Better as in dumping the biggest money-making sport?
>>67709909
>>67709969
>Reminder Tulane voluntarily left the SEC in the late 70s in an attempt to become the Notre Dame of the south.
>>67723587
It's more of the Yankee part I hate
Although add more members for basketball is why I couldn't care less about the ACC
>>67723589
Getting rid of schools with shit academics who sit around wishing they could join the SEC every season sounds better to me.
>>67723595
I wonder how different tulane would be if they stayed
What if they had chosen to keep their football team and stay competitive?
>>67723332
I don't get the whole memphis to big 12 argument besides them being a decent geographic fit and the FedEx CEO willing to pour money into them
memphis football has had one good season, with their star player and coach leaving afterwards, and their basketball has been mediocre ever since calipari left
>>67723640
If FSU and Clemson leave the ACC will start to become unstable
they're the only relevant teams in ACC football right now
>>67723675
M-miami hurricanes is still relevant
>>67723675
The ACC Coastal is as good as most other divisions in football, just less top heavy. Last season admittedly wasn't great, though, and the Atlantic would be garbage without Clemson and FSU.
>>67723696
it amazes me how every team that has left the big east has become irrelevant after leaving
except for Vtech for a couple years but even now
>>67723646
More relevant than LSU, but them's the breaks.
>>67723716
Big East was pretty based back in the day. It's s shame it's now a basketball Catholic conference now
AAC is considered the football big east right?
>>67723409
The ACC has 14 teams, they don't need you.
"Hey guys, c-c-can we play too?"
>>67723554
>dump their two best teams
>Notre Dame will never join you
Cracka iz you on drugs.
>>67723744
The AAC and Big East are separate now but that's basically what it turned into. Every team currently in the AAC were accepted when it was the Big East besides Navy, and Temple was an original Big East football member.
>>67723762
>your school will never be Purdue and get paid $30 million every year to do nothing
>>67723750
They have a few teams that don't deserve to be in it like NC State and Wake Forest
>>67723778
>football is the only thing that comes into consideration for a conference
>>67723574
CUSA's tv contract is less than what it was when Memphis, Houston, etc. were in the conference, so they have no renegotiate with their current slate. THAT number, is
1) Less than before, but more than what we thought a few months ago, because it will be with ESPN and not Fox, and
2) Going to keep going up as the quality of play increases (something that will never happen with the MAC or SBC).
Also college baseball is shit.
>>67723779
>Every team currently in the AAC were accepted when it was the Big East
me again, discard this sentence
>>67723640
A money-maker is a money-maker.
>>67723802
It pretty much is otherwise UConn would be in a P5 by now.
In fact it's exactly how Louisville got into the ACC, because FSU was threatening to bolt if the ACC didn't grab another football school.
>>67723812
>going to keep going up
not with that bubble bursting senpai
>>67723792
NC State is one of the few football first ACC schools, plus has a big alumni fan base.
Wake Forest will totally get screwed out of a power conference at some point though
>>67723812
Do you really think CUSA can increase quality?
I think it ends at AAC and MWC. Next realignment CUSA will just get poached again and will end up scrounging for new members. I don't see any teams with potential besides Rice and Marshal
>>67723649
Literally who
>>67723660
There is a bit of a meme-aspect, "you were good last year so it will continue forever," but this happens all the time, it got UCF into the AAC, got WVU into the Big 12, and so on. The question is, if more money is poured into Memphis, can they sustain success and lock down the media market?
It's all positioning by billionaires.
>>67723882
>The question is, if more money is poured into Memphis, can they sustain success and lock down the media market?
Because most schools that aren't Bama/tOSU can't sustain success; it's just not how college football works. Even the Bamas of the world have down years, too.
>>67723882
UChicago, a now D3 school who was once in the Big Ten.
I see what you're saying, but UCF and WVU have at least done things. UCF has won a BCS bowl, and WVU has won a few while also being literally the most successful team in FBS history to not win a championship.
>>67723792
Wake Forest has won an ACC championship this century. That's more than Miami can say.
>>67723675
If the ACC became unstable in that instance-- they have 14 teams, they're fine. The only reason they could become unstable is that the quality of football play is already shit, a non-FSU conference is worse than the AAC.
They'd be viable, but would never bei in the playoff.
>>67723923
>you now remember early 2000s Alabama
>>67723952
Pretty much this, they would be worse off than the Big 12. And if Texas becomes relevant again the ACC will probably be the worse off P5.
Death Penalty for Baylel when?
>>67723882
Honestly, I see UCF as a good fit for the Big 12. Do you think they have any chance?
>won BCS bowl
>large university, 2nd in enrollment
>in Orlando, nice size market, no pro football, who wouldn't like to play a road game in Orlando?
>has its own on campus football stadium
>big 12 presence in talented FL
>>67724001
>mfw Baylor gets kicked out of the Big 12 and Houston joins
>>67724020
If they didn't shit the bed last year they would have a pretty good one
>>67723943
You got any national titles there, big boy?
>tfw it's our year
Get fucked kitties and the rest of the pac
>>67723704
The conference is garbage WITH Clemson and FSU, Clemson is wildly overrated, FSU was doing well but Cam is in the NFL now so you're done.
ACC is as weak as the AAC but they keep adding teams to project a strength that is not there.
>>67724060
are girls there really as slutty as it is made out to be
>>67724087
M8 bitches are the same every where
>>67723744
>>67723779
Effectively, sorta. The classic Big East was an actual national power; the BCS-era Big East was total shit, but was still perceived to have some of the old-school sheen even though they never really achieved much compared to other Power 5's of the BCS era.
The AAC is much more on par with how they've been doing, which is, effectively, the Mountain West except with schools you've heard of.
>>67724087
Yes bruh
>>67723792
"Deserves to be in the ACC" is an interesting concept.
If it's "this team is consistently shit," then no team deserves to be in the ACC except Clemson and FSU. Can't really have a conference with two teams, bro.
>>67723802
Um.... yes. Are you one of those college football n00bs who thinks the only reason Notre Dame is independent is because no one thought to ask them to join?
ND has told the ACC to go fuck itself. Repeatedly.
>>67724043
I'm just saying if we're going to boot teams for being shit recently, we can do better than Wake.
>>67724066
You don't seem to sound like you know what you're talking about in the slightest.
>>67724224
ND joined in every sport but football and only won't join for football because they've got a lucrative NBC television deal. Nice try, though.
>>67723847
>>67723880
>will the CUSA increase in quality?
Yes they will, because they have CUSA money (which isn't great but a lot better than SBC money), so over the next couple years we will see teams besides Marshall and WKU start to rise to the top. Which teams will move up from the current CUSA slate? Top teams in 2015 are irrelevant, the teams who get promoted will be the teams consistently good in 2019-2021 or thereabouts. Current teams aren't even settled yet, but look out.
When the AAC got built, did anyone really pick Houston as the top team? Well, there you have it.
>>67706236
the sec are dumb to not at least say fuck you florida and try to add fsu/clemson already and maybe even miami. it would make their conference better.
>>67700877
You can tell va tech, clemson, florida, and miami are in the wrong conference. They all care more about football than basketball where the acc only cares about basketball.
>>67724274
>schools that care about basketball over football
Pretty much just UNC, UVA, Duke, Syracuse. Maybe Wake Forest, I don't actually know anything about them.
And UVA used to be a good football school 20 years ago. Those poor football schools are so out of place.
>>67724327
Virginia has never been a football school
They had like 6 years of success but have been shit the rest of the time
>>67724274
It makes sense
Except financial sense
>>67724346
I still included them, and that's less than a third of the conference that is a basketball school.
>>67723923
>success
These people don't think in terms of championships, they think in terms of "Can we get 80,000 people to buy tickets on a Saturday, and how many people can we get to watch this game on TV."
>>67723932
There's a reason WVU hasn't won a championship. They were basically the Boise of the Big East, except (1) success not as sustained, and (2) they were only the top of the conference after Miami and Va Tech got stolen, so they looked good by default.
Florida is too far away for the Big 12, I really think WVU was a move of desperation; if they didn't get back to 10 after the SEC raid, they'd have been forced to disband.
>>67724020
>does UCF have a chance
It would be hilarious, because for a brief moment it was South Florida as the up-and-coming new Florida team, and UCF would surpass them.
It's a helluva media market, but I just don't think UCF has the sustained success. WVU is far away, sure, but they're still pretty far from Florida. Sensible would be to fill the space, geographically, between WV and Iowa.
This of course assumes the Big 12 will make a sensible choice (WHO KNOWS), but UCF seems like a longshot.
>>67724369
louisville, pitt and nc state are all basketball school.
more than half the conference is a basketball school. I am not even putting notre dame on it because if the conference falls apart they were never really apart of it, boston college which is in the acc for academics mainly. ga tech is a football school that I forgot to add but they dont have much of a brand outside of atlanta
>>67724060
I love playing STD roulette.
>>67724456
I might be able to grant you Louisville, even though they take football seriously, but not Pitt and NC State.
>I am not even putting notre dame on it
Are you trying to imply Notre Dame is a basketball school? If so, feel free to stop posting.
>>67724327
Tobacco Road schools (Wake's too weak to fight the notions of the other NC schools)
Syracuse
Louisville
Plus maybe Pitt and Notre Dame since they aren't a member for football
So that's at least 6 and could go up to 8
Much more than the schools that place higher emphasis on football
>>67724403
the WVU was a good addition. They're a good middle of the road team to have. Honestly an upgrade after misery and colorado, and id argue TCU was an upgrade for smexas a&m. the only major issue is not having 2 more teams, but if they were to get UH and maybe BYU (I feel BYU has a stronger historical resume than say a memphis or UCF), I'd say this (theoretical) present day big 12 is a stronger conference than 2008 big 12
It's also worth noting that its tough to add a team thats worse than ISU and KU, so no matter who you add its not going to seem like a terrible decision
>>67724241
I know exactly what I'm talking about, but the message from ESPN (really the only entity doing the talking when it comes to college sports, or at least the loudest) keeps talking about certain teams/conferences as if they're great. This happened with the BCS-era Big East consistently, and that team literally cheated to keep its BCS auto-berth.
The ACC is total shit at football and has been for some time, but "oh look, they added two teams, they must be a desirable destination," is sort of a sub-conscious trick the conference has played. Even if we agreed that Clemson was quality, there are 12 teams in that shitshow that are interchangeable with the AAC roster.
>>67724455
usf was only ok for like 5 years and thats all. ucf has been pretty good, in sense of mid major, for like decade or so. Also ucf is a better recruiting school who has been successful for longer than USF.
also ucf has the biggest school in the country so its not far fetched. but your right those other two schools offer more of a "brand."
>>67724492
no I am not. you the one that made the jump. Notre dame football isnt really in the acc and they are a full college basketball member so they provide the acc more through basketball. thats what I was saying. bizarre case
>>67724492
Notre Dame isn't a football member
They could care less
NC State is better at basketball than football historically and are rivals with NC and Duke
Not sure about Pitt but football has sucked since the 80s and they were in the middle of the basketball era of the Big East
>>67724550
Okay, you phrased it like including Notre Dame would add another basketball minded school. I agree that Notre Dame should be excluded from the discussion.
>>67724529
>>67724529
I think miami is a sleeping giant and (knock on wood) they wont be a laughing stock since they brought in a proven coach.
the rest of the acc seemed to have made a lot of good hires recently. they arent totally giving up on football.
>>67724556
thats what I was saying about pitt. pitt hasnt been too good with football over the last two decades and they have been regularly ranked teams in that same time period.
I really hope fsu stays in the acc. There are the only true rivals that miami has and it will be boring without them. Especially if they go to the sec I dont want the noles to pull all the bullshit that uf pulls when trying to get a football game between the two schools
>>67724562
Since basketball is their biggest non-football sport, they probably would support basketball decisions
>>67724520
WVU is not a good addition. The conference does not need middle-of-the-road teams (that gets you nothing on a strengh-of-schedule, which now actually counts), but in the panic of the Big 12 almost dying overnight, they picked anyone who would say yes. Now they have a shitty media market and a school 2000 miles from its nearest rival.
BYU may have history, but they don't roll on Shabbos and are now too far from WVU anyway. The conference has forced itself to either expand only eastward, or have schools pay huge travel costs for the bi-annual WVU/CSU barn-burner.
Spreading itself over three time zones would be fucktarded (which is not to say they won't do it anyway, the morons), EST and CST only is more sensible.
UH will not be added because the conference is already 50% Texas teams, there is nothing to be gained as the XII already has all Texas media markets locked down.
Yes, ISU and KU fucking suck at football, so all the more motivation to add quality football teams. Outside of UH, and looking only in CST or EST, that leaves them with Cincy, Memphis, or paying huge $$$ to get ACC teams who would realistically get worse TV contracts if they moved. So the traditional wisdom becomes, "The Big 12 will raid the AAC and no one else."
>>67724615
Miami could go independent
Wouldn't hurt them too much
>>67724550
S Florida was good enough to get a Big East invite when UCF was still nobody. UCF has shown more growth, I suppose, and the Bulls have definitely not.
UCF is a desirable media market, yes, I'm just genuinely curious if the Big 12 will actually have the balls to expand into another conferences territory (picking a school from Florida, Ohio, Tennessee, or wherever).
>>67724618
I'm strictly discussing the culture at each school, since I think that's what the original guy was complaining about.
>>67724615
>pitt hasnt been too good with football over the last two decades
It's not about being good though; I'm saying they are more interested in football than basketball. The original guy complained VT et al were out of place because they value football over basketball.
>>67724631
90% of college football is middle of the road teams or worse. I don't know what you expect.
>>67724529
you called jameis "cam" bruh
>>67724615
The ACC hasn;t given up on football, just like I haven't given up on fucking Emma Watson, but, y'know, let's all be realistic here.
>>67724667
>Meh, that's what I meant. I can't edit posts but you get the gist.
>>67724655
By definition, half of the teams are good and half are bad. Middle of the road is sort of a subjective term.
This is the Big 12, a power-five conference. If the SEC invited Louisiana-Monroe, you wouldn't say, "Oh well, most non-SEC teams are shit, what can we expect?" You'd want a team close to yours or capable of competing at your level, which is why the SEC went with Missouri and A&M.
The Big 12 could've chosen consistently top-ranked teams from the ACC or Big East (and did, with TCU), but then they also picked WVU, which had been good for two years, and even then amongst a garbage heap made of spare parts that the ACC didn't want.
But again, this is me assuming the Big 12 wants to make the smart, right choice, and they have chosen consistently that they only want cucks who will suck UT's cock and say thank you for the semen.
>>67724640
miami would lose out on the conference money. they dont have the following like notre dame.
>>67724667
i think its a meme
>>67724743
west virginia has had two losing seasons this century while also having three bcs bowl wins
you're retarded
>>67724784
Miami still has some name recognition
Plus they could probably pull off some higher profile games
>>67724743
bro west virginia is a better program than tcu. tcu is the one thats been good for like 5 years and more likely to sink back to irrelevance.
>>67724825
not for much longer unless richt can have the same kind of success as he did in uga, without of course the big wins.
>>67715926
Oregon State will always be OSU to me. I think things are looking up for the program too. Go beavs.
>>67724743
Considering your definition of good seems to be competing for natties every year, half of all teams are not good.
>>67724841
I disagree
It hasn't been that long since Miami played in a championship and had a period of consistent sustained success
It's closer than Notre Dame's heyday
>>67724885
>It hasn't been that long since Miami played in a championship
>It's closer than Notre Dame's heyday
Notre Dame played in a championship not even five years ago, and has been competitive in that time frame. It's harder to mark consistent success for an independent team, because there are no division/conference titles to compete for.
>>67724807
>two losing seasons this century
So? So has Texas Tech, that doesn't make them some great world power.
>>67724841
WVU is an outpost in the mountains, TCU has to compete with 11 other TX FBS schools. By any metric (except, uh, baskeball), TCU is better. Also TCU used to be in the old SWC, whole WVU used to be a barn in the woods.
>>67724909
Outside that 2012 season Notre Dame hasn't been at the level Miami was at at the beginning of the century
>>67724852
Oh it's way more than half.
>worst season in 100 years
LIKE A PHOENIX WE WILL ARISE FROM THE ASHES AND SCORCH THE EARTH AROUND YOU
>>67724909
and what richt accomplish is uga has been what notre dame has been doing for the last 20s years, which is be ranked at the end of the year.
>>67724947
miami hasnt been relevant, the way that notre dame has, for like a decade.
god why do I talk shit about my team. I love the canes and regardless I think richt will accomplish what he did in uga. he has a better recruiting grounds and he proved he can coach better than the last 3 um shit coachs.
>>67724932
yeah a school is great because who they compete with. than I guess vanderbilt has been great this decade because they compete in the elite sec sec.
>>67724956
I worded that awkwardly. I meant "it is not the case that half of all teams are good, as you claimed."
>>67724980
>and what richt accomplish is uga has been what notre dame has been doing for the last 20s years, which is be ranked at the end of the year.
Right, but the only bigger goal Notre Dame can accomplish is winning a national championship, unlike UGA who could have just tried winning their shitty division occasionally.
>>67705569
This is decent bait.
>>67724980
It's not like Notre Dame has been that good
When they've been decent, they were elevated in everyone's mind because they're Notre Dame
If Miami win the Coastal, everyone will talk about how they're on the verge of coming back despite their shit schedule this year and winning the division isn't that big of an accomplishment
>>67725046
could you name a specific year in which your statement about ND applies?
>>67725054
pretty much every year they are good desu
>>67725046
well I hate my fan base for doing that. they are still stuck in the 90s where they were competing every year. But thats another story.
Although their biggest knocks since joining the acc is that they havent been to a title game since joining. It does move the miami program a long way to go to the acc title game. thats the most realistic accomplishment they havent achieved in a decade of trying.
>>67725054
every year for 23 years,outside of 2013
>>67725081
thats because of the e!spn shilling
>>67725054
Last year
Year before that
Year before that
I'll give them credit for going undefeated in 2012
Year before that
Etc
>>67725081
this isn't specific and its wrong
>>67725097
this isn't specific and its wrong
>>67725111
this is lazily specific and its wrong
why would you include two years when they got absolutely ravaged by injuries? or years when they weren't highly rated before, during or after the season? pretty much exposes your bias and meming desu.
>>67725111
>Only losses came in the last second on the road against ny6 bowl winners
>Overrated despite being ranked behind other teams with the same record
Something isn't adding up here
>>67725169
Only ranked wins came against Temple, Navy, and USC right after their coach got fired
>>67725137
>>67725169
yes they have been better the last three years.
but before that they were always top 5 preseason and always ended up non ranked. that happened for like 2 decades.
why would I need to go specific on any of this. media loves over rating notre dame every year
>>67725208
that'd be a half-decent argument if they had been ranked ahead of OU or MSU going into the last week of the season. they weren't. their ranking appropriately reflected their body of work, which was undeniably impressive. And while I don't like using quality losses in discussion for NY6 rankings, that doesn't mean they don't tell us anything, especially if they aren't flukes and they are the only losses.
>>67725226
they literally weren't always top 5 (or even ranked) preseason. that's demonstrably false. you faggots are as annoying as ND fanboys.
>>67725246
>undeniably impressive
Okay
You really got to stop this shilling
I mean they had 4 wins against teams that went bowling and I listed 3 of them
>>67725330
the rock solid schedule you are demanding didn't exist. The closest thing was the top 4 big 12 teams, whose strength was built on a win over UT and circular logic.
>>67725169
The anti-ND push is pretty strong here, and the use of on field results to back up an argument is non existent.
>>67725260
>>67725383
ok but pretty close.
http://preseason.stassen.com/over-under/teams.html
for 26 years preseason rankings compared to after the season was done.
>bottom 5 of most consistent over ranked teams
and the sad thing out of those bottom 5 they are the only ones without multiple titles. and their only national title happened less recently then all four of the other teams
>>67725489
I think everyone is aware that preseason rankings aren't based on anything but unwarranted hype, because there's not much else to go off of. It's hardly a good indicator of Notre Dame's performance over the last decade.
>>67724980
except Vandy doesn't compete
