what the hell happened?
The season couldn't even blow up properly, Pham.
lvg is a hack
lang baal
>>67637929
Can't they still win 19-0. Honestly all this premature celebrations is going to come back and bite everybody. Watch bournemouth play the kids because the first/second/third team definetly won't be playing.
>>67638530
They lost to full time plumbers
>>67638530
>Watch bournemouth play the kids because the first/second/third team definetly won't be playing.
[citation needed]
I knew before checking the flag that this post would be written by an American. They're not scoring 19 goals
>>67638921
And then they got BTFO'd by Memphis of all people, meme harder my Italy+eagle friend
>>67638951
>I knew before checking the flag
Am I the only one who notices the flag before the post?
>>67638980
For some reason they don't show on my browser until I hover over them
>>67638978
Italy more relevant than Mexico, neverlands pls.
>>67638530
United got beat by Mk Dons 4-0, they would probably win 1-0 against Bournemouth's U18s
>>67638530
>Can't they still win 19-0
they would be breaking the record for the biggest winning margin in epl history by 10 goals
>>67638978
>having troubles to beat a third division team
>then get rekt by Liverpool
Just ManUre things
Genuinely not joking when I say they're the new Liverpool. Outsiders for top4 for the next 5 years at least
>>67639075
Who's the top 4 then in your eyes for the years to come? Probably City and Arsenal, but do you think Lesta en Spurs will keep meme'ing?
>>67639092
Lester and Liverpool
>>67639092
It's going to be much more fluid. The only team I can't see falling out is City and probably Arsenal.
Leicester will not make it next season unless they have a great transfer window, they seriously lack any kind of depth.
>>67639092
City are shit and so is pep.
Top 4 is as follows:
1. Chelsea
2. Leicester
3. Tottenham
4. Liverpool
>tfw losing to Bournemouth and Palace while Liverpool win a European Cup and a Champions League place.
>>67639202
Manchester United were only good because of SAF. No other manager can do the job he did, and none of them want to.
Manchester United will fall into mid table irrelevancy before folding under all that debt.
GGMU Glory Gone Man United
>>67639188
>that flag
>this topic
>>67639269
I agree aboot Fergie.
There is no real debt.
Utd will lose about 30m for the Champions League but the EPL is giving them 100m for the laugh.
They made 600m this year.
Add 1billion kit deals
And another 600m + 1.5billon in tv rights for 5 years.
They spent 300m and a 200m wage bill but it's nothing.
It's just figures on balance sheets.
That's it.
What happens on the pitch doesn't really matter anymore sadly.
>>67639376
Their failure to challenge for anything and crumbling of the fanbase is what will fold them. It won't yet, but they will be Forrest v2
>>67639202
That feel.
Although i'm still not confident, lose and we have no Europe at all next season
Chelsea won't let a season like this happen again. Top4 for the foreseeable future
Barring any pep meltdown, man city have top4 for the next 3 years at least
Arsenal top4 until wenger retires
The fourth spot will be between united, liverpool and spurs. Assuming van laal stays next season, I think Liverpool will be the 4th team next season. If they win europa they'll be more attractive than the other 2 for players, plus klopp is probably the best of the three managers. If liverpool lose europa then they have no europe at all next season, which gives them a huge advantage with regards to fixture congestion
>>67639465
Lose and we focus on domestic cups only and play less games.
It's a win win situation all in all, but winning the whole thing just has to happen after the way we've gotten to the final.
>>67639548
>but winning the whole thing just has to happen after the way we've gotten to the final.
Winning the league in Suarez's final season for Gerrard "just had to happen" too. As a Liverpool fan never expect good things.
Europa League is probably the most fun i've had as an LFC fan for about 7 years, i'll be gutted with no Europe next year if we lose
They were propped up by Ferguson. They will be shit from now on
>>67639577
I'm impartial about it. Klopp has already said he doesn't want players that want to come here for European football. They either get the train moving or fuck off
Playing purely English football next season could be extremely beneficial to the development of a new team.
>>67637929
United were dominant during the "perfect period", when the PL started to expand worldwide. Due to this United's fanbase is far too large to ever "do a Liverpool" like we did.
They simply have too many fans and financial clout.
Guardiola would have been perfect for them really, he could have built new foundations for them to move forward. I don't think there's any way they become a dominant force again though
>>67639641
>let's piss away a chance for CL football so we can focus on getting CL football next season
>>67639577
From an outsiders perspective Liverpool seem to do well when they're the underdog rather than the favourites (eg Istanbul, Dortmund this season). This europa final is way too close to call
Rooting for you for muh coefficient though. Would be mad fun to have 5 teams in the CL group stages next season
>>67639662
But that's not what he said. It's a silver lining to losing the final that's all
>>67639668
Yeah we enjoy being the underdog generally.
Klopp's record in finals is actually awful, and we were terrible against City in LC final. If Sterling didn't miss a sitter and Mignolet make a couple great saves we'd have lost in 90 mins.
Ah well we'll see, going straight into CL groups would be totally crazy. And probably be huge for the club in the summer
>>67639660
This. Whoever was in charge of marketing at United in the past 10-15yrs is a genius too.
No matter which manager comes in they'll have huge expectations. Genuinely think it's one of the least forgiving managerial jobs alongside real madrid and england
>>67639957
>Genuinely think it's one of the least forgiving managerial jobs alongside real madrid and england
Chelsea is much worse. Abramovich has been the boss for 13 years and fired like 10 managers. Mourinho and Ancelotti were the only ones who lasted more than a year.
They sold a literal god.
Worst mistake in the history of the club
>>67639662
No, you're missing the point.
The clusterfuck of European football is partly the reason we had so many injuries. If we missed out on Europe next season, that's a benefit in terms of squad development. Gives Klopp more time to work with the team rather than have to keep up squad rotation for games every 3 days.
But of course, give it our all in the final and let's hope we win. I'm just saying, it's not all bad.
>>67640050
How could I forget Chelsea lel
I'd genuinely have a hard time ranking those 4 teams in terms of difficulty managing
>>67638951
Why must you be such a pretentious prick, Anon?
>britbombs
>>67639376
>It's just figures on balance sheets.
>That's it.
Rangers fan detected
>>67641066
I think he means that even though they currently have a 9-figure debt, the revenue that they're guaranteed to get over the next few years renders it a formality rather than an actual problem
>>67641137
dunno, there was something about adidas halving their sponsorship if they don't get CL football 2 years in a row, which is a serious chance now. I don't think MU is too big to fail, there was a serious drop in stock prices just a few months ago.
>>67639188
if arsenal had a bigtime striker (i.e. one who isnt prone to, say, 800mins+ in the PL without a goal) they'd be much better off with ozil @ #10 and alexis proving why he was surplus at barca when they were fixin'ta sign suarez and whatnot.
honestly for a 2nd place team that spent jack squat diddly shit to improve themselves over the summer, they did fairly well given that every one else around them had a mind to spend at least 50-75mil+ even if they were defending champs and all.
of course arsenal won't spend and it seems like xhaka or whoever is their big target and he's a ~30mil CM/DM, so at least welbeck getting hurt when he did for as long as he did = you need to go get a new striker because entering 16-17 with JUST... giroud and welbeck = you prolly deserve to finally slip out of top-4 when teams like LCFC and spurs very well might hang around the top-4, liverpool has klopp there to recruit/spend (and if they win the EL they;ll have CL football as an added draw) and then pep to city and chelsea getting a do-over sans mourinho = they'll be back/better.... and of course manutd will spend another 150-300mil+ because thats just how they roll.
TLDR = arsenal better step up and upgrade their side so it's not another situation where they're prone to 300mins+ PL goalless droughts that WILL bury them in what very well could be the most competitive EPL ever in 16-17.
>>67642056
You get it at least. All this st. Totteringhams day crap was just fans. The higher ups at the club know there's a lot of work to do. Wenger even came out and explicitly said "2-3 incomings"
>>67642271
st. totteringham's day was just the consolation prize for the season that took the place of the FA cup for the last 2 seasons. at least arsenal didn't have to throw themselves a giant parade like "HEY WE DIDN'T GO AND LOSE THE FA CUP" (as i tend to believe that you "don't lose" the FA cup as opposed to actually winning it)
but yeah hey, it's arsenal. this is who and what they are, and i'd still be surprised if they went out and got a striker who was obviously better than giroud and supposed to step in and take that #1 #9 gig and run with it.
>>67642411
It's been 4 years of Giroud. Enough is enough. Even a risk on some unproven literally who is worth it at this point
>>67641467
>>67641137
They're losing money each season and are selling less shirts than before. It keeps dropping just like the team. Now they've missed out on champions League football it's going to et worse
>>67638348
Underrated post
>>67639188
>putting Leicester that low
m8...
>>67639188
> Tottenham as 3rd
> Forgot they're forever going to be in Arsenal's shadow
just
>>67638951
>>67639021
geniuses detected
>>67642682
>its going to get worse
United literally just gained a record high in revenue. Seriously its amazing how people think United are gonna do a Leeds and capitulate under the debt.
>>67642463
>Even a risk on some unproven literally who is worth it at this point
>>67637929
fergie retired, it's that fucking simple
>>67648982
but hes proven, a proven failure
