Random news that no one cares about goes here.
We need less bench clearings and more bench clearing brawls.
Diamondbacks
keep em coming. it's may doe
Every team sucks
Baseball sucks
Fuck memes
>>67563980
>Implying that's not makes him great
Team in a slump horrible? Bring a petting zoo and a magician club house to get the players relaxed and start a run that gets them into the playoffs.
>>67563981
Only if they implode and hemorrhage all their talent.
>Bandwagoners on /sp/ think a white sox team beating shitters in the AL means they won't inevitably choke after All-Star Weekend
orioles
How does Chris Sale pitch so well despite being so skinny?
I thought steroids were supposed to bulk you up?
>>67564043
Seriously though, we need more fucking brawls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mt0_0k40t4
I hope Arrieta hits Sean Rodriguez, Rodriguez charges the mound, and Arrieta kicks the shit out of him.
>>67564064
>Fuck memes
You should go to /hoc/ then.
>>67564063
Who's that in left for the AL?
>>67564059
>bustgarts
to be honest
>>67564008
>miggy
>>67564063
>NO XANDER
JUST
HE IS LITERALLY BETTER IN EVERY CATEGORY THAT ISNT HOMERUNS
>>67564084
who from whoville whoelse?
>Matt Harvey: 5.2 IP, 11H, 5 ER
TOMMY
>>67564066
>defeatist White Sox fans think a team with Chris Sales on it can miss the playoffs
>>67564084
adam eaton, hes got like 14 or 15 DRS so far
>>67564070
Ask Randy Johnson
>>67564070
Ever consider that he just might not be on steroids?
>>67564123
randy was all natty breh
>Xander Boagerts is UNIRONICALLY leading the AL in all fucking offensive categories except HRs, Triples, and SBs
>he's second in SBs, 5th in HRs, and 5th in Triples
>he STILL will NOT make the ASG
THIS
TRIGGERS THE SHIT OUT OF ME
>>67564134
Oh oh right "Pilates" is the fresh meme around these parts isn't it?
>>67564098
>>67564086
>>67564097
Ill say it again. Voted a month ago, stand by my picks
>>67564073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EiqELgKp5g
I don't see anyone on the Cubs actually starting a fight this year. Outside of Arrieta. If that happens, holy shit the whole team is going to grab baseball batts and charge to field to make sure he doesn't get hurt.
>>67564160
Oh I forgot to qualify this for shortstops only.
>>67564063
>cain over trumbo
lmao'ing at you
>>67564160
Muh XBHs
>>67564169
You are retarded. Gonna have to give you the old yeller treatment.
>>67564175
John Lackey could definitely start one
>>67564169
You're pretty fucking stupid then. Royals fan I imagine.
This is now an O'Leary thread
Give thanks to baseball's reckoning and savior
>>67564184
Yes definitely cain over trumbo
>>67564123
You take that back.
>>67564160
>bustgarts
>>67564202
Thank you for injuring our shittiest pitcher
>>67564201
Even worse. Shitcongo cucks fan here
>>67564160
>Tulo leads AL shortstops in RBIs while hitting .170 and on a team with average offense
>>67564175
6' 5" Derrek Lee vs. 6' 10" Chris Young
Damn, they should've let em go at it
>>67564229
Try making the false flagging not so obvious next time.
>>67564063
Copy/paste of my response and mandatory typing of new shit so 4chan doesn't think I'm spamminggggggggg
>Miggy
No, Hosmer
>Correa
No, Xander
>Cruz
No, V-Mart
>Cain
No, JBJ
>Eaton
No, Saunders
>Trout
No, Reddick or Trumbo
>Perez
No, McCann
I don't give a shit about the babby league choices, they are going to lose anyway
>these jerseys
Arizona Sweatbacks 2bh
>>67564207
>.275/.340/.397 over .308/.361/.602
lmao
>>67564250
>No, JBJ
LOL m8, let's not get stupid here.
Sure, JBJ is hitting out of his fucking MIND right now, and defensively he is the best in the league its not even close.
But he'll come back down to earth soon.
>>67564259
Pretty funny how cain is still the better player overall
>>67564283
>m-muh defense
so then why didn't you put kiermaier on there instead?
lmao
>>67564237
>average offense
>average
i fucking wish
>>67564250
Ill be honest i picked mccan and Hosmer on half of my votes. But i still stand by my choices here
>>67564275
>muh hypothetical
Or he is having a breakout season
Even if he comes down hard it would take a few weeks to change that vote
>>67564275
>and defensively he is the best in the league its not even close.
then why should get in over JBJ? >muh meme WS champions? or do you just not like Boston?
>>67564297
7th in the AL in runs, literally average
>>67564250
>No, Saunders
you fucking what?
>>67564310
*why should Cain get in over JBJ?
>>67564335
I dont like picking rookies
>>67564335
because hes a royals fan and wants his teams players in there even if they dont deserve it
>>67564357
I said im a cubs fan.
>>67564355
JBJ isn't a rookie, he's played the last two seasons, last year with a significant amount of playing time
>>67564357
>royals fan
>has miggy over hosmer who is currently most deserving
>>67564355
lmao
Why is aLELdys Diaz so terrible?
>>67564391
He played more in 2014 then he did last year tbqh with you Joe. But I'll jump back out of the conversation.
>>67564401
He's pretty good at making errors.
Let's be honest here, the allstar game is a joke and WS home field advantage shouldn't be on the line.
>>67564401
he aint half bad doe
>>67564416
maybe the ninny league should get good or lobby to accept the DH :^)
>>67564416
true. i think it should be based on records
>>67564427
Maybe the REAL ninny league should drop the DH so they can actually play baseball.
>>67564355
>JBJ
>ROOKIE
Yup, you're definitely a cubs """""""fan""""""""
>>67564333
.321, .392, .554, .946
Find me a better line for LF
Protip: You can't
Keep up with the times grandpa
>>67564368
so why would you pick cain when hes 15th in the AL in WAR and ranks 16th in defense?
>>67564443
lol 1. that's not me replying
and 2. defs a cubs fan my whole life.
>>67564450
he so fucking shit defensivly and is a fucking moron on the bases his hitting doesnt come close to making up for it
>>67564435
This. It's absolutely ridiculous how a wild card team can have home field advantage while the team was superior in the regular season has no choice but to live with it. Wild card teams should never have home field advantage in the world series unless playing another wild card team.
>>67564416
this. HR derby is the only part worth watching, and even then it's as long as a regular game. I wonder if Berman ever gets tired of yelling "BACKBACKBACKBACKBACKBACK" on anything that looks hard-hit.
>>67564482
The only other option would be Melky, and after that, nothing
Saunders is at this moment the best left field option for the AL
What happened to Dodgers game threads?
>>67564482
He's not shit defensively anon he's literally average. He is pretty dumb on the base path though I'll give ya that.
>>67564459
Dude I picked in april. I can't project who's going to have a good year after the fact. In hindsight you can be smart but I thought lorenzo cain was top 3 outfielder and I'm sticking by my choice
>>67564553
>I picked in april
stopped reading right there
if you picked in april then you are legally a mentally retarded dumbass
>>67564530
hes fucking shit m8, he never hustles for balls in left field, he can barely catch, hes so nervous hes going to injure himself he would rather let a run score than hustle to try and make a play
>>67564569
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH OK!!!!!!!
>>67564571
None of this is true. I'm questioning how many games you've actually watched.
>>67564571
>Blow Gay "fans" ripping on their best hitter
Typical Canadian scum
>>67564553
>voting in April
I got to say, the Braves fans still being energy despite their team being so shitty
http://m.mlb.com/video/v688258083
>>67564590
standing by my picks
>>67564583
literally all of them, have you?
>>67564498
agreed. this second-WC format is bullshit and should be put down like a dying horse.
the postseason is already potentially another tenth or so of a season for each team, and we don't need the pool of talent to be diluted even further.
>the Marlins have memed themselves into two WS as wild cards against far superior teams
>they trolled the fuck out of the Yankees after the Boone homer and their marginally better pitching aside from Kevin Brown shut down one of the best offenses of the 90s
>>67564553
>I voted before I saw anyone play this year
>>67564571
Can the Sox have him? I would love for it to be 7/9 batting over .300, and Holt is a utility man. Put Holt in right until Mookie gets out of his slump
>>67564629
I think the second wild card is fine but a one game playoff just doesn't work for baseball.. of course then the season would get too long with another series but I remember hearing about a three game series in which one game was double header.
that could work i think
>>67564498
butthurt NL fan detected
Git gud
>>67564644
Never looking back. I am a genius
>>67564645
Fuck no. Don't listen to that autist he hasn't a clue what he's talking about. Saunders is the only reliable hitter on the team.
>>67564652
>not loving to watch the pirates have a very successful season and then get shut the fuck out at home to end it all
>>67564668
Machado is literally the only player on your list that holds up
>>67564684
nah bro check em again
>>67564692
Not only is what I said factual, but you could put Castellanos in there instead without batting an eyelash
>>67564652
yeah... that a terrible second-placer with like 84 wins could eliminate the second-placer from a really strong division with 96+ wins with one game is ridiculous
>you now remember the two-games-over-.500 2006 Cardinals team winning the WS
THAT was a disgrace
>>67564652
>4 potential games
and how would those potential ties be decided? coin flips?
>>67564629
The 2003 Yanks were indeed the most underrated team of the 90s
>>67564684
Machado, Altuve, Trout, Eaton and Perez are all the best choices
>>67564711
I'll tell you the one I honestly might regret.
>eaton
>cabrera (but I picked hosmer for half)
>perez
>Gonzalez (probs not though)
>Zobrist
>>67564742
I picked mccann for half too
>>67564734
go back and read that again, then admit you're too young to remember the 1997 world series
underage b&
>>67564659
White Sox fan, actually. Fuck off.
>>67564742
How do you not fucking regret Correa?
Xander is statistically, unironically better than him, and every other shortstop in the American League.
The rest of your vote I don't care about. But since Xander got completely fucked over last year despite being the obvious best SS in the AL, this triggers the shit out of me.
So have the baseball stat nerds gotten around to inventing a stat for baserunning effort, like a plus for errors forced due to always running at full speed and minus for bases given up due to a halfassed jog while the fielder is juggling the ball
>>67564783
That's such a subjective thing that it would probably not be made into a statistic unless someone was truly TRULY autistic.
>>67564742
>regretting eaton when he leads the AL in DRS and is hitting .293
>not regretting cain who isnt top 10 in either war, BA, DRS, or any relevant category for outfielders
>>67564737
Sorry, Machado AND Altuve.
Trout, Eaton, and Perez all replaced with Reddick/Trumbo/JBJ, Saunders, and McCann respectively. The stats aren't even close
>>67564771
I can't argue with that i guess.. I've watched only three red sox games but he has looked amazing
>>67564791
You say that, but saber metrics are already a thing.
>>67564793
eaton won't be this good come july.
>>67564793
JBJ blows Eaton out of the water, he shouldn't even be mentioned in this conversation anymore
>>67564819
hes legit, ive watched him through the jays and yankees series while the jays played late games, he already has double the DRS as any other outfielder and isnt slowing down
>>67564841
If you think JBJ will sustain the pace he's at I have news for you anon.
>be Xander Bogaerts
>get screwed over an ASG spot last year because Ned Yost is a fag and picked Holt over me
>aw shucks, i'll get em next year
>Next year comes
>be literally perfect defensively
>be literally the best offensive SS in the AL
>be literally the best SS in the MLB
>people vote over you for a meme SS who had a good """month""" last year
>want to make the ASG
>dont
T-R-I-G-G-E-R-E-D
>>67564869
>be xander bogaerts
>suck
I'm off to bed.
Sorry my votes triggered some of you but it brought me some pleasure tbqhwy.
Go cubs! [W]
>>67564841
by what metric? JBJ is 6th in outfield WAR and not even top 10 in defense, dont be a BA babby
>>67564869
>Xander Bogaerts in charge of not being shit
If Mookie, JBJ and Bogaerts are not all in the AL starting lineup for the ASG I will be fucking furious.
>>67564890
>not even top 10 in defense
know how I know you're stupid?
>>67564890
> not even top 10 in defense
ok different anon but I have to jump in
the reason his defense is "down" this year is because he dropped 1 (ONE) pop up (completely routine one too, was funny)
If youve seen him play over the last two years then you know how fucking absurd he is defensively.
Not saying he should be voted in nor am I apart of this overall conversation, but dont fucking tell me JBJ isnt absurd defensively
>>67564868
Apparently you never followed him in the minors then, he was slated as the next Mickey Mantle
Obviously any comparison to a legend is going to get some scoffs, but here we are
>>67564869
hes shit m8
>>67564890
> not even top 10 in defense
>canadian baseball """"""""""""""fans""""""""""""""
>>67564923
This
JBJ has incredible defensive capabilities. Lightening fast, amazing reads on balls, and a fucking cannon arm
Anyone who claims he isn't one of if not THE best CF in the AL or all of baseball has never watched him
>>67564917
>>67564923
>32nd in DRS
>34th in UZR
holy shit stop overating him you fucking cunts, hes on an unsustainable hot streak in hitting, this is why everyone hates bombston fans
>>67564962
You have literally never seen him play over the past two years, have you you fucking dipshit?
This your first year watching baseball?
>>67564953
Kevin kiermaier is the best defensive CF in the game but ok.
Can any of your outfielders THROW for a homer to straightaway center at your home field/dome?
https://youtu.be/0AnpKBxr9AM?t=12s
And that was 2 years ago when he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
>>67564966
>hurr durr you're a bandwagoner
This is your argument for everything, isn't it?
>a canadian in this thread thinks JBJ is bad defensively
you cant fucking make this up
>>67564962
>H-He can't!
>H-He won't!
We'll see, but until then he is heads above the competition, and thinking Eaton will do any better is kek city
He will drop down to .290 at best
you know who is underrated?
kole calhoun
>>67564972
Yeah I mean that topic is open to debate for sure, but saying he isn't good defensively is just hilarious
>>67564990
I watched him play for the last two fucking years and hit roughly .150
But I also him record the most number of OF-to-IF assists and make absurd defensive play after absurd defensive play for the past two years.
You're an utter retard that hasn't watched baseball outside of this year if you think he isn't a completely incredible defensive player.
Shit hitter? No duh.
Shit defensive CF? Full retard.
>>67565016
Yeah nobody said he was a shit defender you autist. You decided to sperg out when someone said he wasn't the best defensive CF.
>>67564063
You should watch a Nationals game sometime, they've got an outfielder you've apparently never heard of.
>>67564990
Go look at his 2014 numbers dumbshit.
>the Phillies are 21-15
What the fuck is going on
>>67564990
When they took a manager's poll of best outfielders, some wanted to pick JBJ but couldn't because he was back in Pawtucket
You're wrong, get over it
>>67565035
>>67564890
>not even top 10 defense
Shut the fuck up dumbass.
>>67564966
I saw him play in the white sox series, he misplayed one ball very badly and didn't make any spectacular plays
>>67565075
That was one series this year. Stop it.
>bombston fans think JBJ is the next mantle
You literally can't make this up
>>67565035
BACKPEDALINGGGGGGG
>literally just spouted saberfag bullshit about how bad he is
>n-no one said he was bad!
Stop posting
>>67565036
jason werth? nah not even good
>>67565061
by what defensive metric is he top 10? Dont give me the hurr durr i saw him catch a routine pop fly arguement
>>67565082
I literally implied that you should take that with a grain of salt, scouts words and not mine
Stop trying to deflect the attention off your idiocy
>>67565080
>-4 (negative four) DRS
>>67565082
In 2014, JBJ had 8 (eight) double plays from CF
2nd place had 3 (three).
Go look at his numbers in 2014 (the year he played the most).
>>67565082
>canadians are illiterate
You literally can't make this up
>>67565093
He has a career .994 fielding%
Eaton is .985
>Eaton is the obvious pick!
It's actually pretty absurd to see people in this thread calling JBJ a bad defensive CF.
I can't tell if its bait or not. The Canadian obviously isn't, but the rest are too tricky to tell.
>negative (below zero) UZR
>>67565118
What do you mean "the rest"
It's literally him against the world right now, it's fucking hilarious (I think he's in love)
>>67565099
In 2014 he was 3rd with a 15
>>67565118
when in doubt, it's probably bait.
so just for future arguments sake please reply to this post if you think
1) Jackie bradley junior will be hitting at an all star level by July
2) Jackie bradley junior is a top 5 defensive outfielder
>>67565136
Eaton has 15 in like a month
>>67565114
>career
how is that relevant to the 2016 all star team selection?
>>67565138
Probably both, for sure 2.
He was always supposed to be a great hitter, it just never came together until now
>>67565148
Because he's been tremendous? It's a rolling statistic. And that doesn't take away from the fact that JBJ was tremendous defensively in 2014.
>>67565163
Yeah, all it takes to make him a great hitter is a fucking .400 BABIP. Just never came together.
>>67565158
Well when you make 1 error a season you can make a pretty easy judgement that whatever error he made this year is probably one of MAYBE 3, to give you some generosity
I don't know how that isn't relevant quite frankly
>>67565197
I'm not sure what rustled your jim jams but ok
> Reddick
>>67565202
>-4 DRS
>-3 UZR
>literally every advanced fielding metric in the negatives
nice defense
>>67565148
And JBJ has a 16 DRS and an 18.6 UZR for his career.
Eaton? 11 DRS and -11.3 UZR
I don't even know why I'm bothering arguing this because I like Eaton and I like the White Sox.
But to say JBJ isn't a good defensive fielder is absolutely absurd.
>>67565230
too bad all star games arent based on career numbers then
it's pretty fucking obvious JBJ is pumped up on roids, he has a .300 ISO, so his defense is obviously going to take a major step back with his shift in focus to power
also
>.400 babip
it's not sustainable, same for Saunders
meanwhile Eaton is by far the best fielder in the game this season and has an .800+ OPS to boot
>>67565230
are you fucking retarded?
yeah, Eaton wasn't the greatest center fielder
but he's not a center fielder now, he's a right fielder, and he's a really fucking good right fielder
bumgarner 2.72 era
cueto 2.97
shark 2.88
peavy 8.47
cain 6.69
the angels literally have daniel nava batting cleanup
DANIEL
NAVA
BATTING
CLEANUP
>>67565227
You can keep posting those but frankly if you hadn't noticed, no one is buying it
If you really in your heart of hearts think JBJ isn't a great fielder you are a lost cause, another victim of saberfaggotry. Your dick is so far up Billy Beane's ass it's incredible
>>67565241
No shit? Eaton is thriving as a RF.
I'm not even the other anon, he should be the RF for the ASG to this point because he's been fabulous.
But calling JBJ a bad CF is RETARDED.
>le roids argument
oh ok so you're just discrediting him because you don't like him for whatever reason
>>67564869
>be ned yost
>pick all royals
>win the ASG
>win the World Series
>>67565241
Lol, and JBJ has 40 points on his BA and .200 on his OPS
>IT MUST BE ROIDS!
Pointless statement, prove it or leave it out
>>67565263
>>67565241
Eaton is a RF and JBJ a CF,
why the hell are you guys arguing about these two fielders that play two different positions?
>>67565271
Because this canadian faggot started claiming Eaton was a better fielder than JBJ
Has Luis Severino already become another former Future Next Great Yankee? How long do Gary Sanchez and Aaron Judge have before they suffer this fate of becoming formerly future elite players?
>>67565271
Eaton is still officially a CF, actually
>>67565290
literally who: the post
>>67565252
I'm not saying he's a bad CF, but he's not elite either
he's had a shift in philosophy more towards hitting and hitting for power, and he's sacrificed some of his defense for it. Even last year, most of his defensive value was in games he played in RF and LF
>>67565263
ok it doesn't have to be roids but he's changed his game, for the better clearly
it's probably roids though
>>67565287
this year he statistically is you dumbass
your argument is literally JBJ has better career numbers despite them being irrelevant in 2016 all star selection discussion
>>67565325
>but he's not elite either
His career numbers are elite
I dont get this stupidity you keep spouting.
>>67565337
his numbers for 1 (one) season are elite
>>67565344
Because he's really only ever played 1 season fully, and he was elite in it. Very elite.
He barely scratched 200 innings last year, and again put up great numbers.
This year he's not been as great, but it's only fucking May
>>67565333
Yeah and this year statistically JBJ shits all over Eaton
Do you really think anyone would pick Eaton over JBJ because of one error? Grow the fuck up
>Trumbo decides to be good in betamore
fuckin christ m8
>>67565344
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=12984&position=OF#fielding
>>67565363
>>67565363
>Yeah and this year statistically JBJ shits all over Eaton
prove it
>>67565383
Well,different anon. Offensively he's been absurd, defensively Eaton has performed better though.
>TARDINALS
>LARDINALS
>CARCRASHINALS
>METHINALS
>SHITINALS
>URINALS
LMAOOOOO
>>67565243
d-dont worry. timmy will be back with his new cyber hip
>>67565363
only offensively
but Eaton has proved that a 120 WRC+ is standard for him, meanwhile JBJ is due for regression in babip at least
>>67565374
exactly
>>67565424
What do you mean "exactly"
As in "exactly his numbers since 2013 for the time he's played have been fantastic"?
Because that's what his fangraphs page indicates.
Eaton is undoubtedly a better player than JBJ, and the team with the best record in the AL probably deserves one player starting in the field.
>everyone laughing at us for falling for the shark and cueto meme in the preseason
who's laughing now, chumps?
>>67565431
as in his numbers for CF in 2013, 2015 and 2016 are anything but elite
granted all three are small sample size, but the fact remains that he was only elite in one season
>>67565383
Prove it? How hard is it to look up a batting like you fucking autist?
You're grasping for straws at this point, I think you should just quietly stop now
JBJ:
4th overall BA/SLG/OPS
3rd overall RBI
1st in triples
Eaton doesn't even register in the top 10
The disparity is enormous
>>67565424
If I can't talk about JBJ's past defensive exploits you CERTAINLY can't hypothesize about regressions, give me a fucking break
>>67565452
>JBJ is a top defensive CF
>posts offensive numbers
bombston education everyone
>>67565440
Shitmardzija is just proof that the NL is a joke.
>>67565448
How the fuck did you garner that? Did you actually look at his stats tables?
>>67565452
>g break
I'm not hypothesizing about anything, a .400 babip is not sustainable
>watch NPB stream
>batter has "Where The Hood At" as his walkup theme
He wasn't even black. He was a Jap.
>>67565465
And Eaton will make errors this season
>>67565448
>have a fucking RZR in CF in 2015 of .977
>not elite
u wot
>>67565464
2013 DRS: -2
2015: 2
2016: -4
2013 UZR: -1.8
2015: 0.8
2016: -3.3
I looked at the stats
>>67565483
nobody knows what that means
>>67565492
>DRS in seasons where he didn't even break 1000 Innings
youre not even worth my time
The DH needs to be instituted in the National League
>>67565492
are you seriously blind or something?
UZR 2014: 13.8
UZR 2015: 10.1
Like you are literally making stuff up at this point
>>67565363
exactly. errors alone aren't a good unless the number is really high.
>you now remember Butch Hobson making 43 errors at third base for a .978 field %ge.
>>67565474
is overthrowing the cutoff man and letting a guy advance to second an error, he did that the other day, it was pretty shitty, play wasn't even close at home
>>67565508
if he was really elite those numbers would be positive
>>67565539
we're talking CF here
and yes I ignored 2014 because I said that he was elite one season, and that season was 2014
>>67565543
*.899 fielding percentage
why the fuck did I type 978
>>67565547
>I didn't include his good season, for reasons
I'm done with you
>>67565537
or maybe pitchers should jsut git gud
>>67565547
>The other thing to remember is that DRS isn’t going to work well in small sample sizes, especially a couple of months or less. Once you get to one and three-year samples, it’s a relatively solid metric but defensive itself is quite variable so you need a good amount of data for the metrics to become particularly useful. There’s plenty more to say about this issue, but that’s for another entry. In general, DRS isn’t perfect because it doesn’t factor in shifts, positioning, and can’t perfectly measure everything it needs to, but it’s still among the best options out there.
>>67565547
so you use a 24 game sample size, and purposefully ignore his good metrics
I'm sure a reasonable manager would do the same thing
>>67565583
John Farrell does this tbqh with you Joe.
>>67565587
I'm fairly positive Farrell does the complete opposite of that, actually, or he wouldn't be playing him you grade-A retard
>>67565565
>>67565583
quit being retards
at least follow the flow of the discussion here
I didn't include his good season because I acknowledged earlier that he was in fact elite one season. but just one season, which proves nothing about his overall career fielding being elite.
The fact that he's now going on two straight seasons of not elite play at CF, even with small sample sizes, indicates to me that he may not be elite anymore as he decided to focuse on other things, if he is still elite in CF he hasn't shown it
>>67565613
tbqh with you Joe I don't think John Farrell is a good manager.
>>67565615
>The fact that he's now going on two straight seasons of not elite play at CF
He literally has been.
the >small sample sizes are why that selective stat you picked work against JBJ as noted >>67565575
I almost think you're baiting at this point.
>>67565622
>won a WS with a hodgepodge team
>bad manager
the trolls in this thread are just getting lazy
>>67565463
>Resorting to memes
Chump
>>67565639
>John Farrell was the reason the 2013 Red Sox won a world series
GO
AWAY
He's not a good manager.
>>67564711
Man, this. Surprisingly, Castellanos is probably the most (and only) deserving Tiger of the All-Star ballot this year
i like baseball imo
>>67565674
Delete this.
>>67565648
this. he was the warm body that could have been anybody else except Bobby Valentine as the manager in 2013, won because >muh team chemistry guy, and has been exposed since.
>>67565674
gay
>>67565635
it must be, this guy didn't start until well into the canadian digging himself a nice little hole. Saw a good opportunity and took it
No one is this retarded, or they are just being deliberately obtuse
>>67565674
kill yourself
>>67565674
>liking boreball
>>67565701
No, you don't win a World Series being an incompetent manager, it is impossible
>memeiners
>>67565734
You win a world series with a team that literally is in full blown WIN NOW mode and the manager is essentially immaterial
because that's what 2013 was
If you've watched the sox over the past two years, you'll know why Farrell has been dogshit with his terrible in-game decisions.
are the Yankees just going to wait until a bunch of their fat and old players' contracts are off the books and then spend huge again or are they actually interested in their prospects
I think if they continue like this season they will pony up the money like old times kek
>>67565370
i too find this hilariously curious.
>>67565771
the Steinbrenner bros are actually like small-market teams compared to their dads' Yankees teams in spending.
>>67565370
>>67565772
>plays like shit for a shit team
>plays well for a good team
pretty simple m8s
>>67565771
Hal is a jew and doesn't care for the team's success so I doubt it
>>67565797
but the fans won't accept a losing season in the cellar even if the new way of thinking is better
>>67565808
And they won't really give a fuck if they're fans "accept" it because they're spoiled billionaire jews that dont like spending money
theyll just preach some stupid "be patient and let the system do its thing" mantra
>>67565824
which works tho senpai
>>67565766
John Farrell is not the best manager in baseball, but he certainly isn't incompetent
2014 they lost Ellsbury. They signed Piershitski who proceeded to suck dick as usual and let Salty go. They brought in Sizemore who added to his embarassing shit underachieving career. Dempster gone for the season, resigning Drew and Napoli who were both god awful, and then fire sale gave up on the season.
2015: Hanley is a dumpster fire for whatever reason. Sandoval isn't much better. Lost Lester, replaced with Porcello, who again, sucks. Trade Middlebrooks for Hannigan (uhg). Trade Cespedes (UHG).
Farrell had nothing to do with the last two seasons, the GM was to blame.
>hey let's try out some washed up faggots who might have one more career year in them!
>>67565824
wait for a solid core then buy out all stars to take down the ring
>>67564043
>>67564073
These are good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgw-ujI8UI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfWRweUkYmk
>>67565877
>the GM was to blame
you take that back, Ben Cherington was a genius madman
>>67565877
I have a lot of things to address in this post but am too tired to write out a lengthy response, so I'll put it this way before going to sleep:
He's incompetent as an in-game manager. We haven't ad the proper personnel (obviously), but he has routinely made terrible decisions as an in-game manager for the past two years. And if you don't think his over-extending on players like Victorino, Sanodfatass, and Napoli and refusal to play guys like Shaw or Holt over them isn't the most glaring, egregious displays, then I can't help you.
Bring this up again some other time, I'd love to go over it.
>>67565877
>the potential GOAT defensive outfield of Cespedes, JBJ and Mookie in Fenway
the only OF hits would be off the Monster
but it wasn't worth getting Cespedes for Lester. Lester was part of the old guard, man. And he was our only reliable starter, period.
>>67565907
Hey, I agree to some of it, but you know he couldn't start Shaw and Holt (and Nava more often) instead of his superstars. You never know when a player might return to their regular play, and 99% or the time it is the right thing to do. Honestly, it was a real perfect storm of nobody doing their jobs, Farrell can't take all the blame for Napoli hitting below the mendoza line, he just has to find his swing again, etc. And btw there he is now back to his good ol' self right now. Fuck you Napoli.
>1, 2, and 3 pitchers all have ERA's under 3
>4 and 5 pitchers have a combined ERA of 7.52, each of them over 6.5 ERA individually
