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CLE:Hue: Crowell and Duke 'as good as I've seen'
DEN:Von will stay with Denver 'no matter what'
TEN:Bishop Sankey on the Titans' chopping block
SF:Gabbert 'taking control' at 49ers' workouts
OAK:Raiders GM: DeAndre Washington a complete RB
FA:Falcons look at free agent slot CB Leon Hall
BUF:Bills give Glenn 5-year deal, $36M guaranteed
NO:Saints lock up LT Terron Armstead through '21
GB:Davante Adams' roster spot not 'sure thing'?
OAK:Report: Walford suffered 'big gash' on knee
FA:Free agent slot CB Leon Hall visiting Giants
JAC:Jaguars decline 5th-year option on LT Joeckel
Soon
Who will have the #1 overall pick in the next Draft?
Dolphins
Boy do I love football, romo is not an elite quarterback.
go seahawks ^^
>>67356773
browns, from the eagles
>>67356773
Browns (from the Eagles)
>>67356773
probably one of the perenially dumpster teams that deludes themselves that things are different.
pick one from a hat
Bosa will be a bust.
>>67356773
Ravens
>>67356849
Ziggy should have been All-Pro
Rothlisberger > Bree's
Debate me you twits
>>67356773
naners
>>67356891
over watt or mack? doubtful
>>67356901
What's there to debate?
>Andrew Luck
>even on the top 100 list
What did he do last year besides die?
>>67356901
Bree's what?
>>67356975
>Giving him 2 (two) positions
Was it really necessary
>>67356773
49ers
Sorry naners guy.
>>67356901
Theyre about even in my eyes. Every time I choose one I like more, the other surprises me. But if I had to choose I'd probably pick Brees, he's done more with less. Though Big Ben is a lot more entertaining to watch
>>67357002
beat the super bowl champions
>>67357021
I gave your mom 2 positions last night
Who
>>67357042
Ayy lmao
>>67357042
LEAVE HIM ALONE
>>67357021
i agree it was unnecessary, but he deserved the defensive end spot. linebacker not so much
>>67357042
Haha nice one.
>>67356849
Honestly, I see it.
He's pretty weak for a DE, relies on speed but he isn't much faster than NFL caliber O-lines.
His play speed is a lot higher than his 40 time, though.
He's coasted through more on his frame than his technique.
>>67357102
REFBALL
> TFW the Chiefs got the next L I T E R A L Great White Hope™ in MITCH MATHEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGqaJDmh2EQ
>QB: Alex Smith
>LT: Eric Fisher
>LG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
>C: Mitch Morse
>RG: Parker Ehinger
>RT: Mitch Schwartz
>TE: Travis Kelce
>WR: James O'Shaughnessy
>WR: Mitch Mathews
>FB: Anthony Sherman
who /majorityWHITEoffense/ here
who /WHITEisRIGHT/ here
who /A R Y A N/ here
Not so fast, everyone but Kansas City, Green Bay, and New England
The NFL needs to realize white players are GOAT and teams need to draft more of them to be successful
>>67356773
Best candidates: Eagles, Browns, or 49ers.
My guess is that it'll go:
>1.) 49ers
>2,) Browns (from Iggles)
>3.) Browns
>>67357123
Should've just given him the one with the most votes desu
Just swinging in to explain all the Dallass shitposting. They got whooped so hard last night that they have to find some kind of outlet to release. Don't mind them and just wish their Finnish "goaltenders" good luck next game.
Who was the single biggest steal of the draft?
>>67357489
Jeff Driskel is a future HOFer.
>>67357520
who?
275 Days Until the Seahawks Win Super Bowl LI.
>>67357489
Jakeem Grant
>>67357489
>>67357595
Is Dez Bryant a QB babby?
>>67357565
Exactly.
>>67357627
hes just a baby
>>67357489
Jarran Reed
>>67357489
Keyarris Garrett in UDFA.
Best possession receiver in the draft by miles, still a little slow since his leg injury though.
>>67357813
if a 6'4" receiver with go-go-gadget arms that runs a 4.5 is slow then I'll take slow
>>67357489
Biggest? Probably Billings or Prescott. I like my GB Packers Blake Martinez
"Martinez’ plus-10.9 coverage grade was the highest of all inside linebackers in college football last season, according to Pro Football Focus" sounds pretty dope for a 4th round pick
>>67357813
Pfft, Seahawks Kenny Lawler had the best hands in the draft.
>>67357878
No CJ and 4 of their games are Vikings and Packers? They're going nowhere
>“Fight on, my men,” Sir Andrew Said
>"A little I’m hurt but not yet slain.
>"I’ll just lie down and bleed a while,
>“And then I’ll rise and Fight again.”
Prove the Bills won't make the playoffs next year.
>>67357897
Pssst there's 12 other games
>>67357844
yeah, the meme before this year was that he had the dropsies.
he had 3 drops in 99 catchable passes last year, but that narrative still keeps going.
so the fucking panthers get him in udfa
Why do people think that the browns will get a top pick from their eagles trade?
The eagles traded up yes, but they vastly improved in coaching while retaining all talent having an okay draft for depth and rotational pieces, and the influx of talent from early rounds this year was relatively very weak most top candidates drafted from every position has big flaws (tunsil -weed then a very huge power gap for other OTs, jack and smith injuries, vh3 short, Ramsey more of a safety because he isn't that great at man coverage, Elliot only good HB then a power gap etc etc)
The browns 2nd first round pick of 2017(from Philadelphia) will be in 16-32 guaranteed
Also more progression on the template should be done by tomorrow
>>67356773
The Dallas Cowboys.
>>67357220
>Great white hope
There are literally top tier receivers that are white in the NFL. You could even make the argument Edeljew is the best if you don't buy into the meme dream that is OBJ.
>>67357945
I also saw a couple of their games and his QB looked pretty shitty, the WRs kept bailing him out on jump balls
his college teammate Keevan Lucas might even be a better prospect than him
obj #1 player in the nfl?
>Quarterback:Robert Griffin III, Josh McCown, Cody Kessler
>Wide Receiver:Brian Hartline, Andrew Hawkins, Taylor Gabriel, Corey Coleman,Rashard Higgins, Jordan Payton
>Running Back:Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson, Glenn Winston, Raheem Mostert, Malcolm Johnson (fullback/H-back)
>Tight End:Gary Barnidge,E.J. Bibbs, Connor Hamlett
>Offensive Line:Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, Cam Erving, John Greco, Michael Bowie, Spencer Drango, Austin Pasztor, Alvin Bailey
>Defensive Line:Desmond Bryant, John Hughes, Danny Shelton,Carl Nassib, Jamie Meder, Xavier Cooper
>Linebacker:Demario Davis, Chris Kirksey, Barkevious Mingo, Paul Kruger, Nate Orchard,Armonty Bryant, Tank Carder, Joe Schobert, Scooby Wright III
>Safety:Jordan Poyer,Ibraheim Campbell, Rahim Moore, Derrick Kindred
>Cornerback:Justin Gilbert, Joe Haden, Tramon Williams, K'Waun Williams, Pierre Desir, Charles Gaines
>Special Teams:Travis Coons (kicker), Andy Lee (punter), Charley Hughlett (long snapper)
My guess is 4 and 12 with this team.
>>67358258
#1 diva
>>67357983
Come on you nerds
You know its great
>>67358258
Not even top 20 desu
>>67357813
This desu. I think he's gonna be better than Funchess within the next 2 years
>>67358275
>all of that new talent and better coaches only giving one more win with a much easier schedule than last season
I think 6-10 or 7-9 is doable
>>67357988
>Edelman is the best
pats fans, everyone
>>67357489
Probably Billings or Spence, though Jack might be if he's still elite after the knee injury. Jeremy Cash could be too if he finds an actual niche in the NFL
>>67357489
Aguayo tbqhwy familia
>>67358672
>trading up to draft a kicker in the 2nd
>>67358647
Jack or Jaylon Smith could totally be steals if they recover. Doubtful though
>>67357489
>implying everyone wont name a random person from their teams draft
>>67358644
Guess again.
>>67358717
Jack might play this season, but Jaylon won't. Besides, iirc Jack's knee had a better outlook than Jaylon's the whole process
>tfw aints gonna go 5-11
fuck up for fournette
>drafting LBs with exploding knees
>>67358275
Who's gonna be the next meme QB they take with the #1 pick they get from the Eagles? Wattson? Mahomes?
>>67358862
microfracture surgery is one of the worst one's out there, but if they can somehow keep him and dante fowler jr that linebacker game ridiculous
>>67358874
>kyle wilson
why
>>67358862
Honestly their both probably out of the league in three years
>>67358970
>Honestly their both probably out of the league in three years
Same with Bosa. A lot of busts taken early this year.
>>67358995
Bosa prob has 8 years declining after 6
Who is the Bernie Kosar of the modern era of the NFL?
>>67359018
Bosa is a complete fraud and won't make it more than a couple seasons
>>67356773
Cheatriots*
>>67359062
Totally agree. How bout that GOAT Cowboys draft?
Has Brady cheated yet today?
>>67359099
Ezekiel Elliott is als a bust. Very fragile injury prone player.
>>67359057
Probably Smeth since he's been cucked out of the owl several times, as was Kosar. Apart from him, I'd say Luck or Matt Ryan.
>>67359062
why do you think that?
>1 Cleveland Browns W
>2 Chicago Bears W
3 Pittsburgh Steelers L
4 Bye
>5 Detroit Lions W
6 Washington Redskins L
>7 Minnesota Vikings W
8 Dallas Cowboys L
>9 New York Giants W
>10 Atlanta Falcons W
11 Seattle Seahawks L
12 Green Bay Packers L
13 Cincinnati Bengals L (if not prime time)
>14 Washington Redskins W
>15 Baltimore Ravens W
>16 New York Giants W
>17 Dallas Cowboys W
Back to the start 10-6 again
3 Division games to close the season gonna be tense as fuck
>>67358874
Jamaica Sanford is still playing?
mfw I realize every single Ohio State player taken in this draft will bust
>>67359166
The michicucks are back
>>67359057
Jared Tate
>>67359195
nigga who the fuck is jared tate
>>67359212
Just made it up. Hopefully you tried to google it. I hate this board and you
>>67358932
>ever spending any pick higher than a 6th to draft college LB babbies
ahaha holy shit are you serious
>>67359146
You are delusional as FUCK if you think the iggles have a winning record this season.
>>67359256
Not a NFCE fan but y'all are wide open
Don't mind Me just filling meme magic quota
>my face when "people" actually think that the Philadelphia Eagles will not make a deep playoff run simply because they parrot their Orson Welles memes non-stop on a Cambodian Cave-Drawing Forum
Some bottom of the barrel shitty Euro Soccer team: Leicester City FC [Think 25 times worse than the Cleveland Browns] just won their league (the English Premier league) after starting the season with 5000:1 odds of taking the chip
The Vegas Odds of The Philadelphia Eagles doing the same in the National Football League? 65:1
L.M.Fucking.A.O. /sp/ isn't ready
>Carson Wentz aka The Great White Hope, aka Blue Eyes White Dragon 2.0 aka First I BLEACHED Your Bitch Then I BLEACHED Your Wife aka The Next Brett Favre
>Sam Bradford (logistically and statistically, a quarterback)
>Zach Ertz (a top 5 TE he will put up 1300+YDs/9TDs)
>Jordan Matthews (Literally has Jerry Rice in his blood)
>Nelson Agholor (JMac clone 1000+YDs/8+TDs)
>Darren Sproles (the current NFL all purpose yards leader who will 100% not get any older unlike the entirety of the human population; black don't crack)
>Ryan Mathews (a first round pedigree HB)
>Brent Celek (a TE that can block better than any FB)
>Top 2 secondary in the NFC East
>Top 3 NFC LB corps
>Top 3 NFC DC
>Top 3 D-Line consisting of:
>DE Brandon "Break Your QB's Back Like a" Graham "Cracker"
>DT Fletcher "Big Black" Cox
>DT Bennie "Immovable object" Logan
and
>DE Connor "I taught J.J. Watt everything he knows" and "My hair gets bitches wetter than Katrina" Barwin
>Top 1 Safety Duo in the League consisting of:
>Malcolm "Punished elite" Jenkins (The best Safety in the National Football League)
and
>Rodney "Sleep tight Manny" Mcleod Jr. (an Earl Thomas Ed Reed hybrid)
Barring an occurrence of 32 statistical possibilities, there is literally no way the Eagles are missing the Super Bowl this season
The Philadelphia Eagles playoff-win drought ends in 2016-2017
You can't prove me wrong
>>67356695
Discuss.
Is Paxton Lynch going to be the greatest quarterback to ever play the game?
>>67359256
With meme magic anything is possible
This years election is Trump -R
Hillary -D
Early estimate odds were found at 48-52 Hillary
>>67359305
Chicken parm tastes so good
>his team plays a 4-3
>>67359329
what does it matter since every team plays in nickel or dime packages 99% of the time
Someone needs to fire Tom Telesco. Chargers made one of the biggest mistakes in draft history this year.
>>67359358
They're still in their base defenses 45% of the time and even the nickel and dime packages are filled with personnel that fit into their team's 4-3 or 3-4 schemes so it still matters you cuck
>>67359387
why you gotta be so aggressive man?
>>67359360
Wouldn't be the first time they did
>you are now imagining Peyton as a charger and Ryan leaf as a colt
>you are now imagining neither team winning a Super Bowl throughout both of their careers
>>67359317
Perhaps, but I'm not banking on it. He is a total stud though.
>>67359387
Why is familie censored but not cuck? Most irritating ever, more than chiefs posting or banana guy
>>67359229
based
>>67359495
*most irritating meme ever
>>67359411
>>67359495
it was censored for a long time when mootles was assblasted.
but that cuck left so the censor is baleeted
>>67359495
Senpai ?
>>67359510
>baleeted
?
>>67359528
Yeah famalee, wassup?
I got banned from /r/nfl for this post.
>Fournette has no vision
>Dalvin Cook is Michael Vick 2.0
>Royce Freeman is a system babby
>Shock Linwood is a system babby
>Samaje Perine is an OL babby
>Christian McCaffrey is an OL babby
next year's RB class is super overrated desu senpai
is Archie manning the biggest "sports dad" in nfl history? How much of his life do you think he's spent living vicariously through Peyton and Eli (cooper doesn't count because he'll be a cripple soon enough and never got to the nfl anyway)?
>>67358874
Oh shit, autism charts can be updated now. Brb
>>67359615
I also wonder if Peyton has always been the favorite son, and if that changed when 18-1 happened
>>67357002
What's fucked is that good QBs like Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andy Dalton probably won't even make the list, but Carr, Luck, Jamies Winston, and Blake Bortles will because it's something new.
NFL Hyped 100
>>67359664
Maybe it's because all the former are in their 30s (is dalton yet?) with little to no playoff success to their names. Not taking sides, just pointing out facts.
>>67359707
Carr, Jamies and Bortles haven't even sniffed the playoffs so that point is kinda moot.
Playoff success is a team accomplishment anyways, a player can be really good and play for a shit team even at QB.
How did Ohio State not shit on everyone last year? Their team was loaded with NFL talent
>>67359664
rivers and ryan both made the list last year, there's 15 qbs on it, i could see rivers making it.
>>67359754
They got memed on at the worst possible time
>>67359583
Dunno why. It was p funny.
>>67359754
Co-offensive coordinators that couldn't figure out how to work together and use >our talent (3 fucking QBs) till after the loss to Michigan State. The next game, at Michigan, where one OC was in the booth and one on the field, OSU stomped. Fiesta Bowl was a solid W too.
Ohio State finished with only one loss for the season, but MSU only had one loss before the playoffs, so OSU didn't win the B1G East and didn't play in the B1GCG
>>67359789
Also this
>>67359734
I know, but even "insiders" can be biased against guys like them and hype the new wave just because their NFL and Disney overlords told them to
>>67359756
>15 QBs
They'll both probably make it then even though they had down years. Still both were top 5 in passing yards last season.
The notable players that'll maybe miss the cut are Romo, Cutler, Alex Smith, Tannehill and Dalton, probably.
They'll get replaced by Cousins, Jamies, Mariota, and Bortles or something.
>>67359796
How is that even possible? OT kickoff returns?
>>67359806
Isn't it voted on by players? It isn't a transparent process though.
>>67359796
>laughed at Michigan for losing on that play
>if Michigan won then Ohio State would have been in the B1GCG
>Ole Miss couldn't defend a 4th & 25
Fuck memes
>>67359827
last second field goals and scores.
The ball is snapped with 5 seconds left, clock reaches 0 before the play is over, but the play continues and they score the winning points.
>>67359827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBlgN85wB6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKABbVH5crc
Ohio State pretty much hard garbage playcalling and Elliott only had 33 (thirty-three) yards and somehow lost to 2 backup QBs
>>67357520
This desu senpai
>>67359827
Never mind, I'm dumb
>>67359827
Michigan State @ Michigan:
https://youtu.be/Dqv48MwEbaQ
Michigan State @ Ohio State was just a game winning FG as time expired. Kicker did a great celebration after fucking over all of college football though
>>67357983
I'm tired of these templates. It makes no sense to have 4 tiers on either side. It's basically impossible for it to follow a sensical distribution.
Let's assume our top tier must have at least 3 QBs. Let's assume it has the minimum, 3 elite QBs. The great tier must have more than the elite tier, so it gets 4 (the absolute bare minimum is 1 greater; we should do better). The good tier must have more than the great tier, so it gets 5. The top half of the average tier should have more than the good tier, but it can't because 3+4+5=12, so there are only 4 left.
A 3 tier top half scale is much better.
3 elite
5 good
8 (top half) avg
Reminder that I'm the best trip and your team is shit
>>67359940
Literally no one gives a shit.
>>67359900
How about this
1-3. Elites/current absolute best (Rodgers, Brady, dr00)
4-8. Great but not elite (Big Ben, Rivers, Palmer)
9-12. Good but not great (Dalton, Stafford)
13-16. Slightly above average (Flacco, Bortz)
17-20. Slightly below average (Tannehill, Meme Smith)
21-24. Backup at best (Foles, Taylor)
25-28. Just plain bad (Bradford, Hoyer)
29-32. Fuck-awful (Kaep, [Browns QB])
Those ratings aren't perfect of course, just examples.
>>67359940
sneak and my team could fucking kick your and your teams ass, you nigger
Autism
>>67360026
Please don't reply to me you literal nobody
>>67360063
>Tunsil
>LG
>>67359827
>he didn't watch the greatest football play of all time
ahahajajajajajajajajahahahahaHHahHHHHHaaaaa@@@@@@@@#@@#@#@#@#
>>67358874
When are you making another one of these?
>>67360087
Rumors are that's what's happening. He'll probably play that position until Albert retires, then take over LT again
>>67360087
That's where Tunsil is playing since he's a typical Ole Miss manlet tackle
>>67360068
>>67360108
>>67360109
>moving a potential all-world tackle to fucking guard when he's almost sure to be better than either of the starting tackles on the team
r8/h8
>>67360063
>tfw my lelphins have the worse corners in the league by far
shits not even funny
>>67360068
Make me you peasant. Literally no one here even thinks about you in a positive way. You post like a casual football watcher every time you to try to be on topic of the thread and when you aren't coming off as a casual you are trying to get us popular trips attentions. You even take your trip off constantly trying to get others attentions.
You are the leech of this general. You offer nothing of value and what little you do offer comes off as retardation. You are nothing. Don't ever reply to me again or ever mention me again. You are beneath me
>>67360068
you're the worst trip on this board tbqhwyf
>>67360191
it's p funny
maybe ifo will bounce back to hyped form
>>67360030
honestly not feelin it
Putting in just a couple in each category should make it easier to show clear differences between tiers, but I see Bortles, Stafford, Dalton, and Flacco as basically one big group.
And if we fill it out more it gets uglier:
1-3: Rodgers, Brady, Wilson
4-8: Brees, Roethlisberger, Romo (big assumption on health, I know), Palmer
9-12: Dalton, Newton, Stafford, Rivers
13-16: Carr, Cutler, Taylor, Bortles
17-20: Flacco, Winston, ?, ?
etc.
I think it's overly divided. I see basically no difference between Flacco and Stafford, yet they end up two tiers from each other.
1-3: Wilson, Brady, Rodgers
4-8: Romo, Roethlisberger, Palmer, Brees, Newton
9-24: Rivers, Carr, Stafford, Bortles, Flacco, Dalton, Winston, Ryan, Cousins, Cutler, Taylor, Manning, Luck, Mariota, Bridgewater, Smeth
25-29: Sanchez, Kaepernick, Jets, Osweiler, Tannehill,
30-32: Browns, Goff and Wentz automatically
I honestly like this a lot better.
When are they going to fix the game so random scrub QBs can't pass for 4,000 yards and 30 TDs anymore (literally hall of fame numbers 10 years ago)
>>67360244
>Brees
>4-8
>>67360258
This desu.. Only elite QBs can throw for 5k yards
>>67360258
Never. It's slowly morphing into the XFL
>>67357988
Tom Brady makes literally all of his "star" receivers.
First it was Deion Branch
Then It was Welker
Now it's Edelman.
Theres no doubt these players have ability on their own, but it's the Brady dynamic that makes them play literally at their highest potential, much like any receiver Brady plays with, if you pair him with a hall of fame caliber receiver like Randy Moss, well you already know what happens.
>>67357603
Can't wait to see him score 4 return TD's next season
>>67360266
based staff
>>67360108
Is that template downloadable somewhere. Would you post it if not?
>>67360288
Reminder that Stafford is coming for the all-time passing yards record
>>67360316
Excellent. The Lions can put that in their trophy case right next to "Zero Superbowl Appearances" and "0-16".
>>67360340
It's kind of a personal record don't you think?
>>67360316
Doesnt he currently lead all QBs in NFL history for passing yards per game?
>>67360361
Brees has 1.4 on him
twice a year
>>67360266
If anyone is moving up it's Palmer. He had great numbers in 2015 despite a much worse o line. His targets were significantly better, but not enough to offset the o line discrepancy, and it's not like Brees had no one to throw to. Colston was acceptable, and Cooks is quite good.
>>67360316
Stafford has to keep up with his current average (279.3 yards per game) for about 10 and a quarter seasons to pass Peyton's record. And of course not get injured from now until he's 38 years old.
>>67360181
Eli is not elite. He's not even close. Brady, Palmer, Wilson, Newton, Roethlisberger, and Brees were all better in 2015 off the top of my head.
>>67360384
>all without Calvin Johnson
>>67360282
Unless you mean exclusively white guys, he didn't really "make" Randy Moss so much as Moss bailed him on his subpar deep throws because he had practically magnetic hands, and he was the greatest Tom has ever played with on the same team.
>>67360384
Dare I say on the right path?
>>67360412
can't spell eli without elite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1XORoXWsSc
>>67360452
Meme aside, you're an idiot
Why has the prominence of the fullback position decreased in the NFL?
Why aren't fullbacks valued as much anymore?
>>67360181
John Jerry is not average, he's fucking horrible, just like Newhouse
Will Tye isn't bad
BJ Goodson will more than likely be starting
>>67360462
without a running came, and with literally who's to throw to besides OBJ and vereen (a HB lol), Eli put the giants in a position to go ~12-4 last year.
The lack of talent and depth on defense cost them to lose game after game late in the fourth, not Eli.
Now that Rueben "quit on routes" Randle is being replaced with Shephard, I feel Eli's best years are yet to come
>>67360488
Because fuck Bill Polian
>>67360492
john jerry is really underrated as a pass blocker. he simply can't create running lanes, which is something you'd want a right gaurd to do, yknow?
>>67360488
The spread offense.
it is the white man's natural enemy.
You ever watched Harvard play? 4TE's 2 Fullbacks and a 6 gorrillion SAT score.
>>67360499
And the fact that Spagnoula is a fucking idiot who plays the CBs like 10 yards off the recievers. And had Uani fucking Unga covering TEs
>>67360499
And if only Kevin "1980s offense" Gilbride was never OC, we wouldn't have idiots who think all Eli does is throw INTs.
>>67360412
Rivers and Eli were almost even stupid. Except Eli threw for more TDs
>>67360108
blount avg: -1
Lewis good: +1
Edelman great: -.5
Amendola replaces Lafell and is avg: no change
WR3 is unproven: +1
TE2 Bennett is great: +2
Solder avg: +1
Interior line idk, Ill assume 2 avg and 1 bad: no change
Vollmer is good: -1
>ninkovich
>elite
wat
sharing with Long, we'll call them good: -1.5
Branch/Brown/Knighton are all generally good: +2
Sheard is great: no change
Collins is great: -.5
No third LB starter: -2
CB1 Butler good: +1
CB2 Ryan good: +1
CB3 Coleman avg: no change
Chung good: +2
McCourty great: -.5
total +4 --> current score of 27
>>67360521
he better not do that shit with eli apple, a press corner through and through
>>67360545
Please take a screenshot, and circle in red where you see the name "Rivers" in those 26 words.
>1 Cleveland Browns W
>2 Chicago Bears W
3 Pittsburgh Steelers L
4 Bye
5 Detroit Lions L
>6 Washington Redskins W
7 Minnesota Vikings L
>8 Dallas Cowboys W
>9 New York Giants W
>10 Atlanta Falcons W
11 Seattle Seahawks L
12 Green Bay Packers L
13 Cincinnati Bengals L
14 Washington Redskins L
15 Baltimore Ravens L
>16 New York Giants W
17 Dallas Cowboys L
>>67359146
this is much more realistic
>>67360499
>besides obj
Who I hear is pretty great, could be just me though. Point invalidated
And Eli is going on 35. Not everyone has their "best years" in their mid- to late 30s
>>67356773
The New England Patriots. They're blowing it up. Going to be rolling into 2017 with 4 QB's. Cap it
>>67360605
And Eli will be one of those whos best years are in his 30s.
His stats have been going up since McAdoo came and his WR corp will be great.
>>67360605
>point invalidated
I didn't realize one good (great) wr could carry a whole team for 16 games
>>67360642
Just saiyan, don't bank on it. What will be your face if Eli throws 15+ picks, for example, and the Giants miss the playoffs?
>>67360660
>>67360660
Works for Matt Stafford, why not Eli?
>>67360663
First, his INT numbers have also been decreasing and with the added talent and McAdoo coaching the offense, I don't really see why he would throw 15+
Second, he threw 14 and the Giants could have mad the playoffs, so it really wasn't Eli's fault as Eli doesn't play off defense
Third. he threw 16 picks in 2011 and won the SB
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>>67360677
Yes, and that he got them how many rings? Better yet, he got them how many playoff wins?
>>67360687
How many has obj gotten for the Giants?
>>67356773
>>67356808
>>67356817
1. Browns (from Eagles)
2. Browns
>>67360696
He's only been there for 2 years and Calvin was there for close to 10.
>>67360696
one in the 2016-17 season :^)
>>67360687
>sb46
Literally all thanks to chokes by better teams, it's how Eli gets all of his playoff wins, by letting his opponents cuck themselves
>>67360660
he wouldn't have to if eli were elite.
>>67360687
>>67360642
hey puss, i'm waiting for a response to >>67360583
and since you bring up rivers vs eli in 2015...
chargers had a worse o line, keenan allen was gone for the last 8 games and was injured in the 7th, and gates was gone for the first 4. He faced more adversity than eli if anything.
>>67357220
Eric Fisher sucks
>>67360700
>10 years
>Stafford didn't play a full season until 2011
>>67360704
This.
Meanwhile. Stafford is ringless, has a losing record against winning teams and hasn't even won a playoff game.
God knows how shit he will be with out being able to chuck the ball 40 yards to Megatron while Megatron his legs get undercut from him.
>>67360718
The chargers didn't have one of the worst defenses in NFL history.
>>67357150
Bosa doesn't rely on speed
>>67360725
>Stafford didn't play a full season until 2011
And Manning has never missed a game.
What does that tell you about Stafford?
>>67360725
2011 was 5 years ago m8
>>67360733
Eli has never thrown a gw TD with a separated throwing shoulder
>muh plantar fasciitis
>>67360744
>muh plantar fasciitis
So an injury that hinders you ability to plant your feet is something to scoff at?
Go Bills!
>>67360733
What does that tell me about Stafford? That he'll be a sixth-year starter in 2011.
>>67360761
*2016
Daily reminder that the jags are going to win the AFC south.
Bortles is going to have a true monster year with an increased completion percentage and less ints because of the balanced running attack that will be at his disposal.
The defense with the additions of Jack, Ramsey, Jackson, Gipson, amukamara, and the return of fowler will launch the jags past the middle of the pack when it comes to defending the pass.
This is it boys. The year we've been waiting for. Clots are shit. Titsan are shit. Toxins are okay.
But the jags?
They are going to fucking dominate.
>>67360761
It tells me he doesn't have the ability to play through an injury.
Also, Eli also suffered a shoulder injury, in 2007, you know, the year he won the SB. Something Stafford will never do and something the Lions have never seen.,
>>67360727
Let me tell you, it was not average.
Furthermore, the Chargers had legitimate competition in their division. The NFC East, as per usual, was won by a poor team only because the average quality in the division was even lower. They also lined up against the NFCN and AFCN, which both sent two teams to the playoffs.
>>67360733
Tells me that Stafford has a bad offensive line and took 1 huge hit that separated his shoulder?
>>67360799
Tells me that Stafford can't play through pain. And if you can't play through pain, how can you win a SB?
>>67357813
I watched him play against OU and he went off on us. His catch radius is fucking massive. I was shocked that he didn't get drafted but I think he might have some off the field issues. That's how he ended up at tulsa in the first place
>>67360781
>a separated shoulder is not an injury
>>67360810
He didn't play through it.
Eli has played through the most painful shit and won Superbowls doing it.
>>67360804
But he threw the game winning touchdown?
tfw no bf
Will the suspension stick?
>>67360827
Against the cleaveland fucking browns. Top kek.
Call me when Stafford wins a playoff game.
>>67360816
>>67360810
>>67360804
>>67360799
>>67360781
>>67360770
>>67360761
>>67360747
>>67360744
>>67360733
they're literally both average starting caliber quarterbacks
>>67360816
He threw the game-winning touchdown a few plays later while it was popped back in. And you're also implying that separating your shoulder magically doesn't hurt anymore after it gets popped back in? Are you even trying?
>>67360838
yeah, we know
>>67357813
He had the most deep pass receptions in the nation and his total deep pass yards came in second. He is unguardable. Projected mid round pick due to injury issues. He and Funchess are the exact same size.
>>67360108
>that entire chart
wew how wrong he was
>>67360833
No
>>67360833
Yes, I think. As a pats fan I'm unperturbed. If you consider them guaranteed to be in the playoffs (which is pretty fair at this point, despite all you heiney hurt kiddos' protests), then I'll just consider it an entertaining opportunity to watch garoppolo play and see if he's got what it takes to be in the NFL. When you compare missing Brady for the first four games to the amount of injuries that ravaged the team last year, it's not that big of a deal.
>>67360834
Call me when Eli wins a playoff game without the other team choking
>>67360876
>no Brady
>not a big deal
...
>>67360863
I've missed your presence
>>67360316
current career passing yards leaders, age 30 or under
Matt Ryan (30) -- 32,757
Matthew Stafford (28) -- 25,976
Cam Newton (26) -- 18,263
Andy Dalton (28) -- 18,008
Ryan Tannehill (27) -- 15,460
Mark Sanchez (29) -- 15,126
Andrew Luck (26) -- 14,838
Sam Bradford (28) -- 14,790
Russel Wilson (27) -- 13,974
At their current paces over the past 3 seasons (4.3k-4.7k a season), Ryan and Stafford both would eclipse 73k career yards by the end of their age 39 season.
Cam is also on a historical pace but the style of football he plays doesn't typically lend itself to a very long career. Nobody else youngish really comes close to Stafford and Ryan when it comes to yards per season. Luck would have to pick up the pace again and have his 2nd career 4.5k+ season next year to catch up again.
>>67360907
Ryan needs to lead the Falcons to a SB already. ffs Matt don't waste Julio's peak completely
>>67360900
t-thanks
>>67360907
Stafford feels like he's been around ever
>>67360950
Ikr
>>67360957
>>67360838
Nah both are decidedly above average. Eli will make the hall of fame probably, if anything because of muh Manning legacy and a couple of rings thanks to defense.
>>67360936
The defense still can't close out games which is the main problem. Think back to 2012 when the Falcons were true contenders, Ryan had 7 game winning drives. They had the ball last and closed out games with offense. Part of that was good clock management, a lot of that admittedly was luck.
The defense made huge progress last season (from worst to 16th) but next season's schedule is rough as fuck. I predict a losing season, probably 7-9 or something.
2017 is the year they've got marked. If the defense will ever git gud they'll be in their prime that year, along with Julio, Freeman, and Ryan.
>>67360950
He was drafted just a year after Ryan IIRC, 2009, but he entered when he was like 20 years old or something.
>>67360895
The belichick/Brady pats are about playoff football.
>>67361012
And as you can see from last year regular season fuckups screwed us over.
Why people are more concerned with Garoppolo than the mad meme man puppeting his action on the field is just ugh
>>67360989
I hope the lions do something this year. A playoff win over the packers would be nice.
>>67359664
Carr and James had a better season than everyone else you named
You're fucking delusional to think Matt Ryan and Andrew had a better season than Carr alone
>>67361041
No. Having to start the right tackle at left tackle and a backup tackle with turf toe at right tackle is what lost that game.
>>67361041
Who could competently fill in for MccDaniels, though? Serious question.
>>67361072
>week 8-17 is one game
>>67361074
That's why I'm concerned. Without Brady we're stuck banking on McDaniels to be conversative and not chuck the ball.
>>67361070
Ryan had more wins, more yards, higher passer rating, and a higher completion rating than Carr and Jamies
you be the judge idgaf
>>67357489
Keyarris Garrett by a mile, If he makes the Panthers 53 they will have 4 receivers above 6'3 on the field at once
