Why doesn't Europe like NASCAR and other American motorsports?
Because Formula One.
>>67135597
Cheap bait?
>le drive in a circle
>>67135630
Aren't the Arabs/Asians pretty much buying it away from them though?
>>67135730
They are paying huge dollars to host races. They don't own it yet. There has been a rumour of a US/Qatar led bid for a few years but nothing has come of it.
>>67135677
There are road races in NASCAR buddy
>>67135597
It is sort of amazing how Americans are accused of having short attention spans and that's why they meme all over soccer, but then they love baseball and turn-left.
>>67135811
Yes. Two a year.
>>67135597
>americans like redneck sports
>>67135597
F1, which is a global sport>>67135730
, and rallying takes up the grassroots void that NASCAR fills for American rednecks
It surprises me how Americans accept this boring-ass motor"sport" instead of rallying, which would be so based in the Appalachians or the arid parts of the Rockies
>>67136124
>rallying, which would be so based in the Appalachians or the arid parts of the Rockies
While there is rallying in the US, Off Road racing is the way to go in those areas.
WEC
V8Supercars
Blancpain Endurance
WRC
DTM
WTCC
Moto GP
SBK
But yea, I'm sure I could watch some "exciting" NASCAR as well.
VRROOOOMMMMM VRROOOOMMMM xD
>>67136341
>>67136124
>Tfw want to rally but don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to throw away
>>67136124
>call people rednecks
>insist that they race up in the mountains instead
>>67135597
Shit pilots with shit cars.
Btw rally is the most patrician motorsport of em'all. Prove me wrong
>>67137277
Nigga please.
I sometimes unironically watch NASCAR. Debate me.
NASCAR is only worth it for the road courses, Daytona and Talladega. Everything else is retarded
indycar has somewhat of a following in europe, but even i prefer F1 more
>>67137999
i like nascar when its not on an oval, so thats like 2 races a season lel.
>>67135597
NASCAR like the NHL, Baseball and Basketball is guilty of hosting way too many events to be worth following as a casual fan.
Too many races, and drivers tend to switch to slightly different categories, its a mess.
The crashes are a big draw for me, but they try to slow down the cars and minimise any huge ones from happening so thats a downer.
I used to really dig Indycar but its never recovered to its former glory. Needs more epic events like Indy 500 and Las Vegas 2011.
>>67137933
It's close but not nearwhere rally is, rally got so much aspects like desert, snow roads, mountain roads, that makes him the most alpha motorsport.
>>67138323
>Las Vegas 2011
aussie m80 get the fuck outta here
European motorsport is about passion and feeling because it comes from places with gorgeous mountains and stunning bays and roads and passes with thousands of years of history.
American motorsport is about straight line speed because it comes from the boring flat emptiness of the great plains.
>>67135597
>NASCAR
>sport
you tried
>>67136124
That wouldn't fly with most locals actually. A lot of the actual rural rednecks I know stopped watching nascar in the 80s and 90s when the sport became too corporate. The man in black dying basically killed the redneck fandom with him. Most of them actually hate racing now. So you would never get the permits and road closures required. It wouldn't fly with locals or the authorities. Remember how important property is to us. Even a race fan wouldn't want a rally car tumbling through his crops. Notice the "city races" IRL does are all in the parking lot for a convention center or part of town that's not often used. The attempted Baltimore race a few years ago was an unmitigated disaster, and absolutely infuriated the locals.
I'm always baffled whenever F1 is suggested as some kind of counter point to nascar. F1 is like watching paint dry, I've never seen a sport event so boring. Even soccer has more action.
>2 or 3 passes per race
low energy m8
>>67138323
>Needs more epic events like Indy 500
That is just bollocks.
The Indy 500 should be made bigger not other events should be made more equal with it.
It should be the main reason the series exists. In the same way WEC exists solely as a means of practising for Le Mans and as such every race other than Le Mans and the whole championship means literally nothing.
>>67135597
maybe because F1 is vastly superior in every conceivable way
>>67137277
>implying the Isle of Man TT and Irish road-racing aren't the most patrician motorsport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtZlm9Lp7q4
Europe doesnt have oval tracks. Too expensive to build one with it not being popular enough to warrant it.
>>67139520
Monaco is the worst race of any motorsport though because the winner is always a driver who started in the top 3 in the polls.
>>67140111
>top 3 in the polls
>polls
It isn't an election
>>67139306
If rednecks hate nascar then who the fuck is watching it and how is it still in business
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>>67140092
There's that one in England, I forget what it's called. Rockingham?
Then of course you have pic related in Italy. LOL
>>67140092
>>67140141
Rockingham, UK (Locals have noise laws though so it can't be used)
Lausitzring, Germany (Where Zanardi got cut in half)
After that it is just smaller ovals like Mallory Park (same noise laws from locals as Rockinham)
We got rid of all our old ovals and mostly stuck to disused airstrip.
>watching turnleft when you can watch
>WEC
>IMSA
>ELMS
>Blancpain
>Regional GT3
>Super GT
>>67136124
>a fucking leaf
>>67135597
>Why doesn't Europe like NASCAR and other American motorsports?
People usually sleep at night.
![1a2c08f.125x125[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3TbIwwL.jpg "1a2c08f.125x125[1].jpg")
>>67140257
Yeah but napping during the middle hour to two of a long NASCAR oval race is so comfy.
Turn it on, watch up to first or second round of pit stops.
Lay down on couch
Wake up naturally when there are about 50 laps to go.
I love Nascar and i was watching it years ago on Eurosport.
Now there is no tv coverage so fugg it
Watching it online sucks since a have a shitty computer and a shitty connection
>>67137933
>those 2 NisMemes
F
>too bee onesst
>a grid full of half working Nismo LMPs would be more exciting than turn left
>>67135812
Soccer is boring shit. So is baseball and nascar. You now understand the average American opinion thank you
NASCAR needs to add more road courses.
Like Austin, Road Atlanta, VIR, Laguna Seca, etc.
Thats pretty much all there is to it.
>>67138607
>European motorsport is about passion and feeling
>>67138607
#tilkedrome
>>67140279
Are you me?
mid-race NASCAR naps are the best naps. Way better than soccer naps. I'm being serious here too.
Because motorsports in general are fucking boring to watch.
Are you allowed to bump the other cars in F1?
>>67142714
You can get away with it most of the time but it'll fuck your shit up. Pieces of aero fly off and you're pretty much crippled until you can pit.
>>67135812
>soccer
Any man that defends soccer, isn't...
>>67142714
No.
Most other series will investigate contact and issue a penalty if it was avoidable, as well they should.
The intentional wrecking in NASCAR, aka the "bump and run", cheapens the race IMO, as anyone can do that, but it takes skill to make a clean pass.
>>67138011
You forgot Darlington you retarded double nigger.
>>67135597
>Why doesn't Europe like NASCAR and other American motorsports?
Coverage.
It doesn't really air in Europe compared to everything else. American Motorsport is mainly a national sport with very few major mentions outside except mainly Indianapolis.
>>67139520
Fuck off. F1 is LITERALLY the Call of Duty of motorsport. Most fans of F1 dont even know of any or watch series outside of F1.
F1 isnt even the best open wheel series atm, even Indycar is miles better right now.
does someone here watch Formula E?
>>67136124
>f1
>global
Try checking out other forms of auto racing found here. It might be worth a go at the nearest suitable track track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-KMsc45lM
I'll never understand how inaccessible sports are popular. Everyone can play football, basketball, etc hell even rich people sports like tennis and golf, but you can't really do motorsports casually and that cheapens the experience for me
Essentially you're watching a two dimensional expensive dangerous game that nobody else can play
>>67135597
NASCAR is CANCER
>>67142141
>I only like handegg and apehoop
>>67155851
I hate the sound the cars make.
Imprinting.
Would Europe like sprint cars?
Anyone planning a trip to the US should try this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_State_Classic_Challenge
>>67135597
I love Nascar but in my country is pretty difficult to watch
>>67139306
>2 or 3 passes per race
Maybe back in 2002
You sound like the kind of person that watched one race in like, 2005 maybe, and probably only because SPEED channel aired the re-broadcast before the Busch race or something
>>67160918
They sound better than all the S2000 based series' cars.
>>67135597
Google European NASCAR, yes there are ovals in Europe and yes European drivers drive in it
>>67138323
Vegas 2011... Damn bro Hahaha too soon
There is no tradition there of racing cars on ovals.
Indycars are basically a lower tech Formula 1.
NASCAR is definitely it's own skill because guys like Montoya never really became good at it despite the "it's easy to turn left on ovals durr durr derp" meme and good guys from various forms of road course racing never excelled at it. In the 60's guys like Andretti and Foyt did but they had serious factory support.
>>67135677
Le no good Road Course drivers have been good at it even though it would be easy money for them to turn left over and over every Sunday right? It's two different skills tangentially related. It's like comparing soccer and rugby.
>>67135811
Actually there are two, I think 3 in Xfinity.
>>67136373
I wish DTM was televised somewhere in the US.
>>67138323
El Gordo Smiley was the worst wreck ever.
>>67139306
They are racing in Boston this year.
boring
>>67140092
The oval at Lausitz was great though. I always thought that would be a great place for stock cars to go.
we like road races. most american racing is oval. indie car is just a toned down F1 so it doesnt fill a need.
nascar road races are ok though, but in england we just watch british touring cars for that stuff.
>>67164942
It's harder than it looks, though.
I'm a fan of the crashes.
>>67164976
IIRC Montoya when asked about Nascar after his first season stated.
1-It's harder than it looks
2-I did more overtaking in a single race than i did my entire F1 career
3-It's a lot of fun.
Reminds me of the WRC driver who did the Baja 1000 a few years ago and was quoted as (IIRC) "Why hadn't i done this sooner?"
>>67144503
>intentional wrecking
>Bump and Run
Not even close to the same thing.
