news:
jones beat osp
dj heemed ce-who?-do
pettis is done
Schaub
second for Mighty Mouse
>>67061737
who?
Looks like he got kicked on his trap and then it slid to his neck.
Could've ended there.
Just watched The Ultimate Fighter 23 premiere.
God this show is garbage nowadays,literal whos everywhere, no bantz between Joanna and whats her face even Dana looks bored at watching all these goofs.
>>67061778
>TUF
>literal whos everywhere
you don't say
>>67061778
>Tuf
>Literal whos
Right because every prospect from the regionals is going to be well known. Fuck off.
>>67061790
Pretty Spicy Banger though Bob did get his arse kicked
Nate Diaz is a fucking bitch, he wouldn't go up two weight classes to fight anybody
>>67061800
>>67061800
What's the general consensus on Foster's over there?
Post some Cat being a desperate widow
time for some qts
>>67061791
manlets is what killing the sport
there aren't even enough people willing to fight at that weight, literally only 2 people can challenge joanna, that's not competition.
>>67061813
it's a meme
>>67061795
Yeah, was a good one.
Time for teenager vs pro wrestler, I guess.
>>67061819
How so, no one drinks it?
>>67061826
asians are fuken gross lol
>>67061828
dont even think its on any taps at any pub i've ever been to
>>67061844
That's racism mate
Real Aussies say "Welcome"
>>67061786
>>67061791
UFC roster is over 500 fighters, why does Dana think anyone wants to watch cans who can't break that low bar fight?
>487,000 viewers
Embarrassing!
>>67061826
The teenager is undefeated both pro and amateur and the Wrassler was a kickboxer. Might be a good fight
Its not as bad as Hisae Watanabe heeming a 16 year old
Mighty Manlet haters not welcome.
>>67061852
Fuck real aussies, too.
Any webms of Jones slamming Ovince's arm out of place?
Son of a bitch is a true Spartan, going to make sure I watch his next fight
>>67061855
Watanabe the best
Why can't there be most heemstresses like her?
>>67061813
first place I ever saw fosters sold was in New Zealand
>>67061873
She wants to make a comeback. She might be on some Invicta cards soon but her last fight was with WSOF
>>67061846
>>67061876
Wow, it really is a meme. Not bad for a macrobrew tbqhaf. Thanks for the knowledge.
DJ is unironically the greatest fighter ever
>>67061890
>macrobrew
Aside: Australia's been getting real snobby about beer in the last few years. I blame this on the influence of American microbrew worship.
Whittaker-Bisping is the fight to make at Middleweight
>>67061905
The Count would win.
>>67061905
>not the winner of Rockhold/weidman
>>67061911
Also this. Just too experience, tough and smart
>>67061905
It was scheduled for UFC 193 once upon a time, if I recall correctly. I'd like to see it though. Leites really had some good moments against Bisping, there's definitely a way for an advancing striker to touch up Bisping.
Just read Conor's Facebook post.
Why was he trying to downplay the fact that Nate only had one week to train and still beat his ass in 1 and a half round?
Why is every card 6 hours long?
I know you need some fights in the can in case main card fights go short instead of decision palooza's like usual.
But 12-13 fights every show? The prelim fights have to be fought in darkness because nobody's there except the Sher-Fags and friends and family of the fighters.
I love this giant scottish bruiser looking dude speaking fluent japanese. Its hilarious for some reason.
>>67061937
walk ins and intro of prelims need to be stopped.
>>67061945
he's the best part of the Pancrase streams 2bh
>>67061951
Besides the occasional Spicy Banger your right
>>67061961
my fave is how he halfheartedly comments on the pancrase girls
Barnett in the haaaauss
>This Alan Belcher looking motherfucker
>>67061978
He probably hates Asian chicks
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Stewart-Fulton-7132
Oh snap the guy used to fight
Cormier is a law-abiding citizen. Jones is a criminal.
Cormier > Jones
by default
>>67062025
Jon's only crime was thinking a pregnant lady could take a prank
>>67062020
trying to find details on his weight/height
>>67062025
but crime is cool
>>67062042
he must have been a heavyweight the guy looks huge
>>67062053
i cant tell if its just that hes standing around these tiny dudes, but he looks 6' 5" +
FUK U MUDDERFUKKER
>>67062093
why you gotta be so mean to me jones?
Supposing you had to fight one of the current champions right now, with your current skills/speed/strength etc. adjusted for that weight, which one would you face and why? Who would you have the best chance against?
Male champions only obviously.
>>67062137
dont think i could beat any of them and im 6'2
>>67062137
DJ
any other answer is wrong
Cejudo rivals Cerrone for weakest body in MMA
>>67062137
McGregor, he isn't talented enough and his mind games wouldn't work on me
So Jones vs Cornball is pretty much confirmed for UFC 200 now right?
Using Pancrase to stalk for Japanese fight fans
https://www.instagram.com/nikaidoayano/
>>67062137
I'd fight anyone in welterweight or lower.
>>67062137
McGregor for dat payday
>>67062137
Miesha Tate, I think she's one of the most overrated fighters out there
>>67062053
Ask him bro
https://twitter.com/sfultonMMA
>>67061800
neither did conor really, he just didn't cut weight this time.
conor actually going up two divisions would see him fight at middle-weight lol
the idea of conor taking on rockhold and weidman and yoel and nick diaz brings a smile to my face
pancrase ring girls (i think)
https://twitter.com/naachi09211
https://twitter.com/hanadayo0903
Tokyodome vs Areola soon...
>>67062297
considering that Nate is a better fighter than Nick and Connor had him covered up until the final round I would back McGregor every single time
>Cejudo legitimately thought he was going to dominate in the clinch
>against Mighty "Outworks EPO-fuelled Bagautinov in the clinch" Mouse
>>67062367
what's the name of that BR ring girl that turned out to be a tranny
>>67062389
that cant be true
So what if OSP didnt heem Jones, i was right about how the fight will play out, r-right?
>post usada meme
Weiman looked flabby against Vitor after injury and fame layoff. Pettis had dif physique against RDA, also likely because off fame and layoff. All visable effects are on hues, and even then we see them get banned rather changed
>>67062385
As soon as he mounted MM I thought he would capitalized, but he got launched off of him.
>>67062385
If he was a greco-roman wrestler he would
but we was an inferior american freestyle wrestler instead
>>67062399
>we was
sheet
>>67062393
someone was posting pics and when we reverse searched we got pics of a tarnny
Mighty Mouse is the greatest fighter ever
Reallistically speaking, no one on /heem/ has a chance against any top 10 fighter. At any weightclass
>>67062433
m8 you don't even know how good my guard is
I'll submit Werdum by gogoplata in the 1st and then work my way down the ladder
>>67062433
nobody here is delusional enough to think that m8, we're just memeing
Any flyweight fighter vs any club bouncer over 6 feet.
Who wins in a fight ?
>>67062433
I am ripped and better mewment master than Conor and Condit. I think it is fair to assume i am most eligible meme here for that sort of thing
>>67062480
are club bouncers elite fighters?
>>67062395
You got BTFO pretty bad, lad
>>67062498
Was Semmy Schilt an elite technician? No.
>>67062433
I'm black, pretty sure I can beat Gus on 3 days notice
>>67062509
was Semmy schilt an elite fighter? Yes
besides semmy got tapped by fedor
any flyweight could just leg lock the bouncer for an easy win, its not a no sub fight. If you think a sub is hard to pull off on a heavier person you clearly have never ever traned
Pretty wild fight by Erbst, got it done though.
>>67062137
dj
at least i have a small chance of winning via headkick
>>67062433
I'm fuckhuge, pretty sure I can heem plenty of manlets from UFC.
Hey pussy, are you still here?
>>67062433
Training doesn't mean shit after a certain point when it comes to size, like if you tell me Kyoji Horiguchi is going to beat up my 6 foot 5 athletic friend I'm gonna laugh in your face.
>tfw dj is getting so good hes starting to finish people
feels good senpaitachi
>>67062589
>Training doesn't mean shit after a certain point when it comes to size, like if you tell me Kyoji Horiguchi is going to beat up my 6 foot 5 athletic friend I'm gonna laugh in your face.
not really https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUqCSmWh_OY
>>67062395
>So what if OSP didnt heem Jones, i was right about how the fight will play out, r-right?
No, you're an idiot.
suspect stoppage just now in Pancrase
>>67062644
its fucking pancrase m8 what do you expect
>Hendricks on roids still lost to GSP
>off the roids he got memed on by karate kid
Is he officially done?
fell asleep while the strawweight bitch fight was on , missed the rest, im gutted. How was the jones fight? I even managed to get a hd stream too
>>67062650
just how rigged is it? last one I watched a bunch of brazilians ran train on the hometown boys
>>67062655
>hendricks lost to gsp
>>67062644
Yeah not happy about that one, fight was just getting warmed up.
>>67062658
jones outpointed osp for 5 rounds
dj destroyed cejudo
>>67062659
the japanese fights are the most suspect
they pay off one fighter(usually the jap) let the other guy slap him around and get the ref in asap
some foights are real though
>>67062655
Bellator material
>>67062670
should have given a thumbs up to the ref
>>67062655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKY9OoDeu1c
>>67062670
Good stoppage. faggots should stop eating punchs like that
JON JONES
NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO GOY I'M COMING
Fedor GOAT
stop buying into the ufc hype machines spin cockos
>>67062715
If it's just glove banging though, the ref should wait for at least one or two punches to truly get through.
(still bitter about Barao/Faber 2)
(still bitter about RDA/Cerrone 2)
>>67062509
Fuck off nub, Semmy was a master technician.
>>67061737
ngannou
lmao the Last Airbender fighting in Pancrase rn
>>67061930
Just rewatched the fight.
Conor was talking shit with his guard down when Nate hit him with the 1-2. Conor was basically in control until that point.
>>67061905
fuck off, natty goat should fight winner of rockhold weidman
>>67062744
>Conor was talking shit with his guard down when Nate hit him with the 1-2. Conor was basically in control until that point.
>>67062752
bisping is a fade bro
Whittaker is the future, clowning guys with one arm and one leg.
>>67062752
Better hope Weidman wins then...
>>67061864
> true spartan
he spent the ENTIRE fight in survival mode
the ironic thing is the blueprint for beating jones has already been shown: any guy roughly his size playing the boxing game will give him big problems (see: gus)
the handful of times OSP actually threw straight punches in combination ALL LANDED with good effect. Literally the simplest of boxing combinations: double jab, straight.
if he wasnt so scared that wouldve been a competitive fight and even if he lost he wouldve come away with some serious stock to his name.
Jones is one of those fighters who despite being extremely talented, when its all said and done, will have a lot of wins based purely on guys being in reverence of his image.
Mcgoober was like that until diaz stepped to him and slapped the shit out of him. Again, talented fighter, but has easy fights based on guys throwing themselves off by believing HIS hype.
sorry for the rant lads, but nothing annoys me more than fighters taking an "opportunity" and wasting it by just trying to survive. OSP really did have a chance to cause a dana white suicide.
>>67062721
>>67062744
>in control
And by control you mean what exactly?
Nate ate every shot Conor had. His chin remained granite. And frankly I don't get why everyone is so surprised, I mean the man who used to fight 145 shows up @ 170. Naturally he gets his ass kicked.
Conor is cool dude though. He has literally 1 decision in his career and he's lovable af.
>>67062784
words going around that he broke/hurt his arm around the 4th
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM
ouch
>>67062791
I agree, Nate rolled with with 90% of McGregor's power strikes too. Sure it leaves grazing cutting damage but Diaz successfully avoid all concussive damage. Diaz was getting his timing in and rekt mcgoobs when openings where there.
>>67062809
>>67062812
lol he got dropped
>>67062791
> His chin remained granite
Which doesn't mean it would remain granite if Conor kept that pace up for another round.
>>67062824
iirc Nate was way better at evading in the 2nd
>>67062791
conair never hit him clean though m8
>>67062801
Anybody else kek'd at the sight of OSP getting taken down?
>>67062791
Its just people trying to make out like conor just got caught slipping. Which to be fair, he did get caught, but thats the game.
Personally i think he lost because of arrogance. Diaz might be a proverbial "gatekeeper" but everyone else has taken him very seriously and they all stuck to the safe and proven plan of kicking the shit out of his legs.
conor threw like, one? stomp to the knee, and then he thought he'd outbox a diaz, and the diaz brother whose boxing has actually gotten even better in recent years.
>>67062784
>Jones is one of those fighters who despite being extremely talented, when its all said and done, will have a lot of wins based purely on guys being in reverence of his image.
This.
In that fight Jon's name served more than his kicks, punches and wrestling combined.
Not to say he isn't great. It's just that.
>>67062819
I was hoping Uchiku would pull it off
>>67062835
Nate ate some big clean shots in the second m8.
>>67062855
same, i hate dudes with dumpy bodies
>>67062843
it was kind of sad. OSP seems pretty likeable.
>>67062851
howd he get there in the first place?
he just rocked up and name did the work?
what actually happened is that jbj didn't want to get ko'd when he could just win by playing it safe
New JBJ tweet.
I want DJ to get on steroids and move up to 145
>>67062893
>couldnt finish middle of the road jobber
>GOAT
pick one
Pancrase over? Sherdog says theres a bunch more fights. Must be un televised prelims.
>>67062913
yea, i was confused as well
>>67062893
I wonder how many times Jordan did a prodigious amount of blow and ran someone over?
>>67062893
Jordan wouldn't settle on 20 though. His own poor performance would light a fire under his ass. Jordan didn't want to only win. He wanted to bury you. Jones needs to wake up.
>>67062879
>>67062851
i'd like to see the stats
i thought osp had more head strikes than jones
jones just spammed body kicks when osp tried to stay in close
i also think osp was afraid of gassing and he was afraid of jones elbows in close
also he didn't throw any body kicks probably afraid of the take down
i just wanted to see osp try swarming jones and going for a finish
i think at this point its going to be you have to KO the champ or beat him convincingly otherwise the judges will always give jones the nod
>>67062926
jbj outstruck osp like 100-30
they showed it during the fight and it was hugely in jbjs favour
>>67062933
113 - 49 or so
>>67062840
Well maybe he would, if he was a better martial artist famalamovich
>>67062926
OSP fucked up man.
Jones never got out of second gear, OSP had chance but never took it. OSP fucked around with ineffective strikes, he had to throw power strikes to finish but the whole fight he threw mainly scoring strikes which was pointless when you are getting out scored.
Jones is a champ that will always do 10% more than his opponent.
>>67062933
>>67062948
i was more in reference to head strikes
i remember early on in the fight he was leading in head strikes
is their a way to see stats after the event?
i also remember jones spamming body kicks and oblique kicks
is their a way to see the stats of a fight after its over?
>>67062961
>>67062948
>>67062933
check out http://www.fightmetric.com/
yeah like i thought osp had more head strikes and jones just spammed body strikes
>>67062985
So he didn't do enough to win and lost via decision....what's your point?
>mfw i didn't stay up to watch that card
>>67062985
Maybe but the problem is the whole flow and tempo of fight goes with Jones, so judges will go that way rather than raw stats unless they are massively one side or have significant impact. I know what you mean, but its hard because its subjective scoring rather than objective numbers scoring.
>>67062996
i just think its interesting whats more important body strikes or head strikes whats more significant?
at the end of the day it was point fighting whats worth more points
can you just run around throwing front kicks and oblique kicks and win a match?
>>67062985
he also got taken down and was hurt to the body.
>using stats without context
I hate people that do this
FUND IT
>>67063026
>can you just run around throwing front kicks and oblique kicks and win a match?
yes
>>67063026
jones wasn't injured, the damage that happened to him came from kicking osp
osp had a broken arm
jbj didn't win just by oblique kicks
>>67063026
Have you seen rounds 3 and 4?
JJ was this close to TKO. And I believe OSP was offered to tap in between rounds at that point.
And takedowns.
>you now remember dana white was scheduled to fight tito ortiz in a boxing match where tito eventually pussied out
Why is there no fucking HD UFC 197 torrent up? Fuck sake you guys are shit if you all want to watch 720x400 fights.
愉快な仲間とパンクラス。
https://twitter.com/teruto_ko/status/724190159403511808
>>67063032
i was just looking at it out of context you can say jones took some good shots though to the head in the first
but yeah he was hurt to the body
i dunno i'd just like to learn more about the judging of a fight and how the stats play into it?
i think its something that needs to be explored more especially when you see those dodgy decisions that happen in favor of fighters fighting in their home countries
not so much america but definitely in places like brazil
>>67063058
whinge more
>>67063047
>>67063045
i wasn't referring to the fight just fighting in general this guy gets it >>67063038
>>67063066
theres also the problem of judges not being able to us the TV screens and they miss stuff. Also just not being well educated.
>>67063062
is this the dude that's gay?
>>67063085
Don't get your hopes up
Prelims and beginning of the main card were so boring card I fell asleep while watching Rodriguez vs. Fili and missed that cool knock-out. Are the rest of the fights outside of main fights are worth watching?
>>67063097
savage
>>67063084
yeah i mean what qualifies you to be a judge? do you get live stats?
why not be allowed tv monitors i mean goldie and rogan have monitors
it just makes sense
how accurate are the stats etc..
its just something that we are in the dark about as fight fans for the ufc
but i think pride rules are better and the 10 point must system is archaic
>>67063104
Whittaker fight was a good fight
>>67063097
ayyy u got me there
>>67063104
>Are the rest of the fights outside of main fights are worth watching?
it was a pretty meh card the main event was a bit of a stinker neither man really committing
natal vs robert was ok nothing special but not bad
>>67063104
Barboza's work against Pettis was a great watch
DJ vs Cejudo was vicious
Which one of you cunts was this?
>>67063137
me
would vince heem dana?
But understand nothing was done for meeeeeeeee...
>>67063137
Why are americans so obsessed with cuckold shit? It's pathetic desu family
>>67063137
You just know Benavidez can't satisfy her
>>67063170
Dana was an amateur boxer he would have no chance
>>67063170
natty as fuck
why didn't uncle dana do it?
>>67063210
Brock would have literally ripped his arms off and beaten him to death with them
>there are ''''people'''' in this thread that don't consider Mighty Mouse the number 1 P4P fighter in the world
>>67063216
>Fedor punches Brock literally once
>wins
>>67063185
>*boxercise
>>67063228
>one gorilla is stronger than another gorilla
Ok? Dana would still get raped to death
>>67063216
>literally
You fucking subhuman.
And Fedor would've crushed him the same way, Carwin, Cain, Mir and Overeem have.
KYS.
Am I the only one mad the the Esparza/Lima fight? What on earth did Esparza do to win?
>MUH TOP POSITION
MMA is shit.
>>67063258
Don't talk to me Poopenshlagher
>>67063210
He cant even make a concession on a press conference for his own established star, you can imagine the stick up his ass having to make a compromise with a Russian legend.
>>67063264
dude unified rules lmao
>>67063220
>mighty mouse over jones
>Wanting to see Fedor in the UFC with USADA running the drug testing
Kek
>>67063278
>le no killer instinct man
no thank you
>>67063285
>implying he wont heem jaideep tier poo in loo can post usada jon memes jones
So the most focused Jon Jones ever was barely able to beat some no name shitter. Where does his career go from here?
>>67063264
She wanted it more.
>>67062784
Why didn't he throw a single straight left at Jones solar plexus?
>>67063301
barely?
nigga we watch the same fight?
he didn't leave 1st
Why are people so insistent Mighty Mouse has to move up in weight?
He's cleaned out his division, true, but it's not on him to find suitable fighters to fight, it's on the promotion
If he chooses to stay at 125 because he's so close to breaking the title defense record he shouldn't be criticized for doing so, especially considering he's not even big for flyweight and walks around at 141 pounds (according to him on the JRE podcast), there'd be an enormous size disparity between him and any top fighter at BW
I just don't equate him being unwilling to move up with him somehow being a worse fighter, there's just not much to gain for him and everything to lose
>>67063285
Fedor was natty king fighting roid monsters, what are you talking about?
>>67062735
Semmy lost to Hong man Choi.
Even if you think the decision was bad, which it probably was, he could not do much to Choi simply because he was smaller, and Choi could barely fight better than a man off the street.
>>67063301
Right down the dunny. He'll be lucky to be headlining Tachi Palace Fights shows this time next year.
>I rate Rose Namajunas
>>67063314
They just want him to because they're bored.
>>67063298
How would Jaideep fare in the UFC?
>>67063303
You're a ginormous idiot.
How on earth do you know "she wanted it more". Do you have telepathic powers? More importantly, who cares who wanted it more? It's about who has done more through the lens of
>Effective Grappling
>Effective Striking
>Effective Aggression
>Octagon Control
When you ever bother to look at the rules, you will realize that none of it says that you can win by laying on top of somebody.
Hell, based on what I saw, Lima wanted it far more than Esparza did. She went for submissions constantly, from her back, threw upkicks, swept Carla at the end of RD 2 and tried to finish her at the end of RD 3.
The fact that people pretend that MMA as it is done in the UFC is about being the better fighter is hilarious. Lima was perfectly safe in a "disadvantageous" position. If this is a fight to the finish, no way would you worry about her for a second.
>>67063332
Both JJ and Claude would destroy her
>>67063345
top 5 atleast m8
>>67063322
Mate I have watched kickboxing and participate for almost as long. Semmy Schilt was an exceptional fighter on a technical level. I dont care how much you browsed wikipedia or recently watched on fight pass. You are talking shit, just let it go, you're talking shit and you know it.
>>67063303
Is it just me or does every time someone looks at a woman they wonder if they shave their vag?
>>67063366
No, he lost to a can just because he was bigger than him, and won fights due to being big.
You going to tell me that nikolai valuev was also a good technical boxer?
>>67063285
please see >>67063320
before you speak ill of the GOAT friend
>be careful
>>67062480
Height ain't important bub, weight is. 6'1'' 180 lbs ain't shit.
>>67063398
>Nate Diaz stats
Lads, since dana didn't specify what belt is the third one on 200, could it be jbj vs werdum?
>>67063366
Other fighters were even more exceptional. Whats your point? He may have been skilled at what he does, but he is not even half as skilled as Hoost.
>>67063398
manlet detected
>>67063407
>UFC cards have gotten so bad they need to start promoting interim championship fights
combat sports are dead
>>67063437
B I G
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>>67063350
here's a (You) for being spot on germanbro
>>67063394
You're an idiot, saying Semmy Schilt wasn't a fantastic kickboxer, you're a stupid kid who knows nothing, talking shit. Im gonna fuck off because it will devolve into shit a posting contest, Semmy is technically great and you dont know shit, eat a dick wiki baby.
>>67063421
Thats not an argument, a fighter like Hoost being more technical doesn't make Semmy technically unskilled. What is your point?
>>67063453
good post
>>67062784
>1. Be a genetic freak
>2. Take down the most versatile fighter in the sport with boxing 101
>3. ????
>4. Autism
>>67063350
I'm hurt by your opening sentence, but I agree with the rest.
should the unified rules be looked at and improved?
whats the best judging system and rule system for MMA
like is a toehold small joint manipulation?
>>67063637
Toehold doesn't manipulate the toes (e.g. it's not about breaking a toe or whatever) so it's fine.
>>67063637
In my dream world, the scoring system would be based on proximity to finish per round
The "Proximity to Finish" values being based on probabilities tabulated from previous UFC fights
Also a lot more draw rounds honestly
Besides Cariaso (injury replacement); MMs last 5 opponents are combined 30-1 in UFC VS everyone but him
>It was Johnson's eighth straight UFC title defense, tying him with Jon Jones for third-most all time behind legends Georges St-Pierre (9) and Anderson Silva (10).
>>67063682
d-damn
>>67063314
>muslim
opinion discarded
>>67062784
>Do exactly what Gus did
>>67063695
>if jon jones hadn't done coke and hit up pregnant ladies he'd be tied with gsp
>>67063695
truly the p4p best
What do you think is the ideal style to defeat Mighty Mouse?
>>67063459
ABO BTFO
>>67063715
cruzy did it so prob that
>>67063709
except dont have shit/corrupt judges. do everything gus did in the ring
>>67063715
someone either naturally larger than him or someone better than him at all aspects, which is nobody (at fw)
>>67063709
except get caught with a meme elbow
why do people say mighty meme is p4p 1 when cruz is still competing, still champ and beat his ass convincingly?
>>67063672
>The "Proximity to Finish" values being based on probabilities tabulated from previous UFC fights
care to explain further i don't follow
>>67063751
Cruz had a significant size advantage and MM improved a lot since then
>>67063751
Cruz needs to fight more than once every 5 years