>four 3rd placed teams will advance to the round of 16
Let me get this straight here, the hardest tournament has now become a literal meme tournament?
Every euro cup from now on should have an asterisk beside it.
>>67012341
Yes.
Of course, they promote it as a way for lesser countries to join the fun and get some experience of those tournaments so that they could progress.
The reality is that it's just to prevent bigger markets from missing the tournament, lke Englel did in 2008.
Now, as long as you are better than Liechtenstein-tier, you basically have a free ticket to the Euro.
The result is this stupid pool-stage where 4 teams ranked 3rd of their groups will pass while 2 won't.
>>67012817
>netherlands
>>67012913
yeah we know
>>67012817
Excuse my ignorance but Albania qualified. I didn't even know they had a team. I legit just heard about the country last year.
>>67012928
At least you arent this retard
>>67012913
>pays bajs
>big market
You should just stop watching futbol desu. It's a inferior sport anyway
>>67013027
I'm a sports autist though.
As long as they don't take my stickers I don't care
Think how fun the world cup will be in several countries with 40 teams
>>67013022
Where did I say they were a big market?
>sweden
Literally laughing
>>67013187
>tf
>tp
>>67012341
>literal meme tournament
One match more makes it harder desu
>>67012973
Why must our transatlantic friends constantly show their lack of geographical knowledge?
>>67012341
You still have to be the best to get to the final and win it...
>>67012913
yeah
Imagine how hard you have to fail to not qualify when half the European countries can have a berth.
>>67012341
Yep
More teams = more games = more money
It's fucking shit and will ruin the tournament
The Euros used to be amazing, way better than the World Cup due to its size.
>dutchfag detected
We'll let you come and look at the trophy when we win it...
NOT
>>67016545
England gonna win regardless.
>>67012341
Yes. Up until 1992 it was an 8 teams tournament. Getting there was in itself an achievement.
Now it's 24. Twenty four fucking teams qualifying.
All for the money.
>>67012973
>Americans
I was against it, but I like the extra knockout round. Always felt like they flew by in previous Euros.
Plus I can skip a few group games I don't care about watching so I don't get burnt out.
>the valley of scotland
>Euro
>hardest
lol no, portugal reaching a final and greece winning disqualify it
just because 3 of the world's best are there it doesn't make the rest of the shitters better
>struggling against meme countries at the WC
wc>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> euro
>>67023753
>this flag
>this post
>>67024305
>being from a country where real asians leave their feces
>tf
>tt
od
literally only 8 teams DONT make it out of the groups
I wouldn't have minded if they made the WC bigger and longer but why did they have to ruin the Euros
>>67012973
>is suprised a country has a national team
fucking hate yanks
DELET THIS
>>67012341
>thinking it'll make any difference since the winners of the group will just play the shitters
>literally only makes the tournament more exciting because of extra knockout rounds
the top teams get to shit on the shitters unless they pull an upset and everybody gets to laugh.
better than shitty group games where half the teams have nothing to play for.
>>67012817
Scotland, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Serbia, Bosnia, Greece, and the Netherlands should just off themselves then. At least Slovenia has the luxury of saying they have no relevance.
>>67012817
the reality is that because of the way federations are set up, if someone wants to get elected for the presidency of UEFA, they need the vote of those smaller countries and to get that they make tournaments shittier by clogging with meme countries. Same for FIFA/World Cup.
>>67012341
This was literally the World Cup format from 1986 to 1994. It just means that RO16 is group stage tier. I don't see a problem desu.
>>67013143
>groups of 5
Not even once.
>>67020044
But Denmark won 1992 without even needing to qualify.
>>67012973
And I don't know where the fuck Ottawa lies but I don't make it a point to go to Canada-related threads just to tell others that you fucking autist.
>>67013099
>680 fucking stickers
>>67027637
>Scotland
>Relevance in football
Even we aren't that deluded. /sp/ cared more about whether or not >we made it that we did
>>67012817
>>67012341
the third place teams don't go directly into the semi finals you massive plonkers
it doesn't matter
even if a "minnow" gets to the finals, they'd have to get through at least two of the top 8 teams, and thus deserve to be there
>>67012341
Its always been a meme tournament.
As entertaining as CL, Euros and WC can be, they are inferior at determining who the actual best team is. They don't prove anything except which team was able to make it to the end.
>>67012341
>>67012817
It's just one more game you smelly faggots and if anything it makes it slightly harder. Europeans sure love to complain.
>>67032402
>this retard
>>67032450
Whats retarded about it?
I admit that the Knockout format makes for good TV, but it doesn't prove who the best team is better than a league format does.
Are you a yank?
>>67032474
It invariably does.
Germany were the best team in 2014, Spain were the best in 2012, 10, 08
If the "best team" doesn't win then that's not the competition's fault, it's theirs.
You sound like you started watching sports last week. Stick to anime or something.
>>67027435
you'll make it one day, and on that day the spurdo posting will be ebin
>>67032518
Yeah, definitely a yank.
Here's some basic statistics theory for you. What creates a more legit result: Larger sample size or lower sample size? These tournaments have incredibly low sample size and upsets have way too much effect on the end results.
Are you honestly saying that the WC is a better format for determining the best team than the EPL or any other league in Europe? If so, why? You've jsut spouted memes not argued why the system is better.
>>67032579
This is why we need the UEFA Nations League desu
>>67032122
RARE
>>67032608
>Implying people care enough about national football
>>67032629
Better than friendlies, which it would replace
>>67032629
the ones with good teams do, not that you would know anything about it.
>>67032579
>Are you honestly saying
No, do you wanna quote where I said that?
Both have their merits. In knockout formats you have to be on your game every few days, there's no losing to shitter teams like you can do in a league format.
But this wasn't the point, you were claiming KO tournaments were illegitimate or something when the best teams almost always win them.
>>67032647
>*The ones with shit leagues do
and
>Implying England won't bring it home
ftfy
>>67032635
I haven't bothered to research this point but to what extent does this league affect a nation's ability to make its own friendlies? And what happens if a game can't be played (cancelled due to unplayable pitch for example)? Will UEFA try and make them play it at another team, thus creating more strain on players and clubs?
>>67012817
It started with worthless qualifiers where most teams played their U-19 team, starting a 40 year old keeper so he could retire with a NT appearance or stopped calling up half their nominal starting XI.
>>67032668
>Do you wanna quote that
Sure.
>"It invariably does"
In response to "IT doesn't prove who the best team is better than a league format does."
It has merits for entertainment, but these systems aren't as effective at determining the best team in the competition when compared to a league format.
Example time, since its the most infamous
>New England Patriots go into Super bowl 18-0, on track for perfect season
>New York Giants finish regular season 10-6, get the #5 seed, go into superbowl 13-6
>Giants win, making the Pats go 18-1
Over the course of the 2007/2008 season the Pats were clearly the best team and arguably the 07 Pats are the greatest of all time. Yet the Giants go down in that season as champions.
>>67012973
>I legit just heard about the country last year.
how old r u lad
>>67032518
So if a team finished third in their group, then goes on to win the knockout stage, does that make them the best team in the competition?
>>67032738
Yeah, I misread.
But that is an extreme example. What was definitive about City winning the league on goal difference in 11/12? Even one or two points in a 114 potential points season is barely anything.
>>67032812
If Germany or Spain did it? People would say yes
If Hungary or Albania did it? People would say no
>>67032840
This
Does this mean that this long run tournament format will benefit the Krauts? Because I am very okay with this.
