>shot 44.7% over his career
>literally missed more than he made
>in a game thats main goal is to get the ball in the basket
Why does E$PN hype this guy again?
u mad curryfag?
>>66826347
>knowing nothing about basketball
>kobrick
Jordan missed more than he made he sucks too
Because he makes them when it matters, and has a competitive fire many don't have in this era
>50 shots
once a ballhog always a ballhog
>>66832232
Isn't he actually like terrible when it comes to last second shots tho? I thought I read that
>>66827792
jordan and lebron are both a hair below 50% for their careers
>>66826347
watching Lebron defer his way to 4 (four) Finals losses makes you appreciate a chucker who can will his team to win
>>66826347
>warriors """"""""""fans""""""""""" this butthurt because everybody is too focused on Kobe to give a shit about their meme team breaking a meme record
>he doesn't know that's a good percentage for volume shooters at the guard position
>>66826347
cause he plays in LA
Fun Fact: LeBron would have to miss every FGA for the next three seasons to approach Kobe's record for missed FGA
>>66833430
It's a below average precentage for memechuckers like Kobrick. Even Harden averages better.
>>66826347
Because you'll watch it.
>http://deadspin.com/who-was-the-actual-best-player-in-the-nba-every-year-du-1770857828
Article, "Who was the Actual Best Player in the NBA every year during Kobe's career?"
(HINT: It's never Kobe)
LMAO look at this butthurt Curryfag sad no one gave a shit about his meme team making a meme record
>>66826347
The Greatest Chucker of All Time.
>>66836734
Yeah, no one cared. That's why it bumped Kobe off ESPN
>>66836770
And people still watch the Laker game
LMAO even the ESPN hype machine couldn't stop people from caring more about the Mamba
>>66836698
Yeah who has the most rings? Is that a metric they used?
>>66836793
also not kobe
>>66834890
fun fact: lelbronk will ask for more rest days.
fun fact: lelbronk will pass the ball when the game is close.
kek
>>66836805
Who won more rings during his career?
Horry won two before Mamba was in the league, MJ won 4 before. Duncan had pop and a rotating crop of legends like Parker and Manu in the middle The Admiral and Avery Johnson… And at the end he had Kawhi, Wingstop and depth.
>>66836698
>Deadspin
might as well get your sports knowledge from Salon or Huffington Post
>>66836793
>Who has the most rings?
The Birdman has a ring. Scottie Pippen has a ring. Joe Flacco has a Superb Owl ring. That's not a metric.
>also not kobe
way better burn
>>66837126
>Who won more rings during his career?
First of all, Jordan.
Second of all, Kobe won four on Shaq's back and knew it. So he got the boy traded, then only won two while he was (1) the only star in town, and (2) had the entire bankroll of a large market behind him. In other words, the same shit Lebron has right now, and Lebron has a couple years left in the tank.
>>66837293
go to bed it's becoming increasingly evident that you know nothing
>>66837293
He won 3 on Shaw's back, and 2 on Gasol's
>>66837333
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_players_with_most_championships
>>66837671
Wrong. 2 Finals MVPs say otherwise nigga
>Iguodala won a Championship on Curry' s Back
>>66837703
>MVP
That doesn't mean shit, that's just who the sports journos thought was coolest. Lebron already has him buried, and Lebron's not even the best player in the NBA today.
>>66837780
>Finals MVP was Shaq, that PROVES he was the better player!! Kobe would have never won if not for Shaq!!
>Iggy won Finals MVP cause people thought he was cooler, Finals MVP doesnt matter lel
Man im glad Iggy finally led a team to a championship.
>>66832244
Lmao, a dude with 5 titles and 2 mvps should STILL pass the ball during his LAST game ever. Please Fuck off
> 44% shooting is good
> he went like 7-10 in the last 5 minutes to give his team the lead and eventual win
> stay mad
>>66832512
>ABWs projecting
>>66836698
Uh let me guess, Tiny Tim, Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwayne Wayne, Kevin Garnett
>>66837703
Does anyone else unironically think that Pau should've gotten the 2010 MVP? Kobe shot like .400
>>66840784
Oh and Shaq of course
>>66840784
>Shawn Marion
Stopped reading right there
>>66837113
lebron has elite passing so that's understandable
>>66840784
>Marion
>Amare
wew
>>66826347
i shit on kobe all the time for being inefficient and overrated
but it was based that he went out shooting 50 fucking times and actually won, with a shitty ass team
>>66841000
>suns shawn marion
>laughable
shouldn't you be reporting to grade school rn
>>66834890
Fun fact: lebron is 2-4 in the finals
Fun fact: kobe is 5-2
But ya, lebron is better cus he doesn't miss as much in the regular season
TFW you realize the end of an era has come.
Millenial curry fags will question Kobe because they have no idea what its like to see players who are great on BOTH ENDS of the ball.
Thank you Kobe, GOAT.
>>66826347
Because he is best snek
>only won 25.47% of the races he entered
STR8 trash homey
>team is demonstrably 18% better without Messi
Pure garbage
>Kobrick
>LeShit
l m a o
Kobe has never been better than Lebron outside of his rookie year.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Love the prepubescent millennial threads. Poor kids
There's video/audio evidence of just about every basketball all star saying Kobe is the best in the league (at some point). Lebronze being one.
The only ones struggling with their brain are fat bloggers that never played a sport and a few depressed Chinese cartoon posters that are only upset because someone else is getting attention. Daddy less syndrome
>>66848263
Scottie Pippen says Lebron James is the best player of all time
>>66832232
>>66832261
Kobe being clutch is a literal myth. It has no basis in reality. He's statistically one of the worst shooters in close games.
>>66850027
Is there a shot chart for this? Would be interesting to look at
>>66832261
>>66850027
The league average % under 30 seconds is 21% Kobe is still above average.
LeBron under 30 seconds in his career is closer to 10%, this picture is old. Also 24 seconds, in final 5 secs his % is woeful.
>>66832300
Still missed more than made.
I just don't think the NBA wanted Kobe's lasting memory to be this Lakers season. It really was one of the worst seasons a former star player has ever had. Then you had the added Lakers drama. He really should have retired a few years ago when winning was no longer important to him, but the Lakers gave him all that money for some reason. So I guess no one is going to turn that down.
>>66854591
He did better than Charles after his achilles tear at least. Charles played one game, got a dunk, and then walked off court.
>>66850027
He might have been shit based on that statistic pie you cut out but remember all the 4th quarters he single handedly won games for his team's.
>>66837126
>rotating crop of legends
Lol I love how people discounted the Spurs entire supporting cast Duncan's entire career but love calling them "legends" to defend Kobr.
Robinson was relevant for one championship, he was a marginal role player in 2003. Parker and Ginobili were just supporting players in 2003 and 2005. Avery Johnson, are you kidding me? Kawhi was just a good player in 2014 when they won. Any of Duncan, Kawhi or Diaw could have won finals MVP desu considering Kawhi was invisible for half the series but had his best games last (memory bias).
Point is Duncan was by an enormous amount the best player on every championship team except 14, and even then he was still super useful at age 37. Kobr wasn't even the best player on his team for 3/5ths of his titles, and wasn't the most important player for another.
>>66854648
I'd kind of prefer that over a whole season of Kobe dragging his body out there, playing poorly and the Lakers losing a historic amount of games in the process. Until this final game it was tough to watch.
>>66849904
he literally didn't but ok nuthuggger.
>>66854681
except in 2007 it was tony parker that was the best spur lmap keep trying though
>>66854703
but the games that kobe didn't play in, the lakers were actually worse. that's how bad they were this year
>>66854659
he wouldn't have to win those games in the last seconds of the 4th if his chucking didn't make the games closer than they should've been.
>>66854749
>one series
>the entire playoffs
>defense
>Parker didn't even make an All-Star team until Duncan had 3 rings
How are Canadians literally the most casual shitposters on /sp/?
>>66854804
nah. ESPN has brainwashed people into thinking that lebron's style of play is the correct way to play. notice how kobe is 5-2 in the finals, and lebron is 2-4 (probably 2-5 after this year). now why is that? because kobe (and jordan) knew when to take the game over. that's what made them better than "muh advanced stats" lebron. he tries too hard to fill up a stat sheet. kobe was trying too hard to win the games, which he did. in a more competitive conference, no less
>>66854749
so Iguodala was the best Warrior in 2015? lmao
>>66854852
>notice how kobe is 5-2 in the finals, and lebron is 2-4 (probably 2-5 after this year). now why is that?
Because Lebron never played with the most unstoppable big man in the last 50 years in his prime who single-handedly warped entire teams' defenses. Derek Fisher has 5 rings too.
>>66854780
Some stats they were better off without Kobe, but they were still bad.
http://lakeshowlife.com/2016/03/10/lakers-espn-questions-if-las-young-guys-are-better-without-kobe-bryant/
>>66854852
Kobe never won a playoff series without Shaq and Gasol. Lebron dragged so many bad Cavs teams through the playoffs without any real chance of winning for years. Though Lebron doesn't have that excuse anymore. Since going to the Heat and back to the Cavs he has all star level players he is playing with now.
you now realize kobe set a record for most missed career shots.
>>66826347
That's a good percentage in basketball.
>>66836636
That's because 80% of his points comes from free throws.
>>66854996
literally everybody knows this
>>66855044
Sure, Kobe had horrific shooting percentages and is factually the most overrated athlete in the history of professional sport, but I'd like to remind everyone that you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
He's overrated because he made sure he was the only star in LA. He drove Shaq away who was arguably the best center in the league at the time, and star players dont want to go there cause they know hes an asshole. He just belittles his teammates and in a team sport just killed that franchise and left it in pieces.
>>66855094
>Shaq
>arguably best center at the time
Are you for real? There was literally no argument.
>>66837899
Iggy didn't lead a team to the ship.
He was the best player in the finals last year, but he was average the rest of the playoffs
>You now remember Kobe "you better put better talent around me or else i wanna be traded" Bryant
what a guy
>>66855165
this
anybody have the recorded phonecall where he threatened to leave?
>>66837899
Iggy won FMVP because he's literally the best player in that team.
He comes off the bench. The advantage this gives Golden State is unreal.
>coolest
Don't reply to that guy
>>66854972
In the fucking east though.
The only reasonably hard teams I can remember him facing was the Celtics in the mid-late 2000s, that one or two year span where the Bulls/Pacers were competitive and that's about it.
>>66826347
what percentage did he shoot if you only include his first 6-7 years, or whatever his prime period was? I remember when he started, he was brilliant. Then...rapist; then garbage.
>>66855208
Pacers weren't championship level, but they were built to grind and physically destroy teams like Chicago. In no way were they an easy exit that demonstrates the "inferiority" of the East.
>>66855208
>In the fucking east though.
This. I love how all those "lelbron would make any team contenders" posts conveniently gloss over the fact that he was playing in the much worse conference through out his career.
I'd love to see how much of a contender those Cavs really were by having them go against Tim Duncan and Pop. Oh wait, we actually saw that.
>>66854572
Damn, that's true. Your intellectual capacity rivals Marie Curie's.
kobrick will always be a fraud
>refuses to play for any other team that drafts him
>rides prime shaq
>demands trade, later says he always wanted to be in LA
>rides pau the ostrich
>chucks his way into most missed FGs in history at a blistering 35% on 17 shots per game
>>66854681
>Kobr wasn't even the best player on his team for 3/5ths of his titles
Please...Kobe>Shaq if that's what you're implying
>>66854828
It's a gift from the gods, like maple syrup.
>>66855272
>I'd love to see how much of a contender those Cavs really were by having them go against Tim Duncan and Pop.
So the other best team in the league?
I don't see how that's a slight against the East. You act like LeBron wouldn't make quick work of the Grizz, Clips, Rockets, etc.
If the Spurs and Cavs switched conferences would it still be easy for LeBron to carry his team to the finals?
Yes.
>>66855153
Curry won GS games 1 and 5 in the Finals. Curry played REALLY bad in game 2, and in games 4 and 6 him and Iggy had comparable stats. It's just all people could talk about in that finals was how great Lebron was playing even without Love and Irving. It really overshadowed everything Curry did and I think giving the award to Iggy (who did play well especially when they started him) was in a way giving credit to Lebron's performance in that finals a bit.
>>66855402
If you swap the Spurs and the Cavs the late 00s West would still have the Lakers, the Mavs and the Suns which were all better than any team Lebron faced in the East other than those Celtics
>>66826347
>Why does E$PN hype this guy again?
Their writers always try to shit on him
>>66855456
>I think giving the award to Iggy (who did play well especially when they started him) was in a way giving credit to Lebron's performance in that finals a bit
It definitely was. Dude almost could have pulled a Jerry West and won it himself if Iggy didn't fill up the cup during key moments.
What causes athletes to play better under pressure or in clutch situations? I'm thinking of tom Brady here but there has to be numbers on this shit.
>>66855208
He couldn't win one playoff series without them though. He didn't need to take the Lakers to the finals, but just win one series by putting them on his back.
>>66855481
I meant heat or king returns era LeBron teams. His current finals streak.
Bron was lucky to make the finals when he was young. Really good. But lucky.
>>66855537
Fair enough then. Swap them with Spurs and they'd still make the Finals, they'd just have to work harder for it.
>>66855508
>What causes athletes to play better under pressure or in clutch situations?
Its less the great players being clutch, and more everyone else crumbling which gives the illusion.
Great players simply stay great no matter what. That is what makes them fearsome.
>>66855508
What does that have to do with a Kobe discussion? Please don't tell me there are still people out there who believe the "Kobe is clutch" myth.
>>66855648
Nothing to do with this guy, just what makes people play better when they are under pressure? Hate Brady all you want but under pressure he plays like he's on a mission.
>>66855250
> you in charge of reading comprehension
>>66855456
Well the Warriors strategy was make Lebron beat them. Pretty much everyone else played like shit on the Cavs. Both teams knew it was all on Lebron since Kyrie and Love were out. All Iggy had to do was keep Lebron from winning the game. I mean he averaged like 35 FG attempts a game.
Cavs were better in the finals without irving and love, I don't think they'll get past the ECF
>>66834890
Which is meaningless. Kobe came into the league 7 years before LeBron did. If he would have to miss every FGA for the next 3 years, he'd have to miss half (meaning he'd shoot 50%) for the next 6.
Kobe's missed the most shots ever, but 80% of that is just him coming out of high school and having more mileage than any non-big man in NBA history. The other 20% is his suspect shot selection, but he didn't shoot poorly when he was healthy. He shot between 45-50%.
>>66836698
>taking seriously a stat that has Steve "Crybaby" Franchise as the leagues best player in any year.
>>66832391
Lebron was playing in a harder era, kobe's rings are mostly jokes in the worst eras of modern nba.
Y'all can enjoy calling Kobe a chucker. I'll enjoy my memories of all the chips he won while playing for my fave basketball team.
>>66854572
Not if you count free throws
>BTFO
>>66858615
>chips Shaq and Pau won
FTFY
