Chinese GP HYPE
>Hamilton 5(FIVE) place grid penalty
>RAIN is expected in qualy
>>66800460
First for Firstberg
2nd for amdness
5th for WEC
mad amx
>oh boy its 10 oclock, FP1 just started
>looking for streams
>check calender
>it's wednesday
RIP
>>66800460
nth for GOAT livery
>>66800862
>>66799660
Thanks Murica
I have one question for Juan. Just a hypothetical one, Juan. As the wonder kid, the rising No.1, Juan, one wonders should Juan only win one in one year, would Juan want to have won that one in round one, Juan?
/haas/ reporting in.
Is Hamilton really getting a 5 grid penalty?
>>66801360
yes
gearbox change
>>66800460
>>66778363
>>66781693
Minichamps seem really great!
I think i´ll try to get the 1:43 versions of cars which i like but not thaaat much, and save some money for 1:18 versions of the cars i really like and buy them on the next months in which i´ll get a raise in my salary and won´t have to spend much on university books.
Who knows, maybe i´m lucky and customs get opened again here and i can buy them directly out of ebay/amazon/hobby stores
bernie on suicide watch
>>66800826
>yfw-you-miss-the-get.jpg
>>66801360
>>66801408
>it's a hamilshit runs in to trouble early but works back to an easy podium while Rosberg cruise controls the whole race to an uncontested win episode
>>66802509
>Ricciardo
JUST
>>66801134
Podium finish in Chinky-Dinky land!
>>66801360
if HAM tops qualy in China, is he still considered to have won pole position despite being forced to start in 5th?
>formula1 is allowed on /sp/ but /wwf/ isnt:D :D:D
>>66804576
Yes, he will have won pole if he has the quickest time in Q3. Penalties are applied after qualifying.
Whether Hamilton gets pole or not is irrelevant - he will be starting on the third row of the grid.
>>66804731
:^)
>>66804576
>>66804751
It's not counted towards his official pole position stats, if that's what you're asking. But he would still be in the press conference as polesitter
>>66803730
Someone has obviously read the script.
>>66805286
Er... have you not?
>>66801408
Is this Rosberg's year?
>>66800460
Wow I am so hard for this weekend with Lewis back 5 places and rain for quali. It could be a literal shit-show.
>>66805711
nico is becoming a cheeky cunt
I like it
Rain in 4394 minutes
why the fuck did he never do anything good with a champion-tier car?
why the fuck did he leave in mid 2006 and not wait till the end of the season?
why the fuck would a top driver change F1 for nascar?
>>66806818
cause he was not a top driver, just a bit better than the average.
on top of that, you need a good amount of luck + political shit to win F1
>>66806818
fuck that loser
>>66806818
>>66806901
You are both also glossing over the fact that Hamilton was pretty much guaranteed a spot in 2007 with McLaren. Talks at that point were pretty much coming to a close with Alonso that he'd race for them in '07 as well. Why both Kimi and Montoya both jumped ship. It was just that the Colombian did it sooner.
Also Montoya did good in the Williams which was fast in a straight line was more famous for blowing up. Also Montoya raced at McLaren during their unreliable days as well. Bear in mind this was during Schumacher era then Alonso's back to back...
Finally Montoya is the closest out of any driver since the 60's to completing the triple crown.
>>66800633
Dubs. Its true.
>>66806818
He claims to have left for the money in Nascar (Nascar was at its absolute peak in 2006) and also that he didn't like the politics of F1.
I think he saw the writing on the wall that Hamilton was going to take his seat, and if Hamilton didn't, Alonso was going to McLaren soon and would make him look like an amateur.
What will be the happening of this race? Dubs decides outcome.
>Sauber crashes into Fat John
>>66806818
Here's a good interview. He gets into his F1 days and why he left.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1rpcsy_f1-legends-juan-pablo-montoya_auto
reminder that merc would be redbull-tier if Brawn hadn't leaked the 2014 engine formula to them a year before all the other teams
>Hamlolton
>>66807865
Rosberg wins again, Haas grabs a spot on the podium, Kyvat has a bad crash and has to miss multiple races
>>66807865
Rosbergwinslol
>>66805983
If I'm honest, that's a shop - but I only changed "2015" to "2016" so he is becoming cheeky, slowly.
>>66808298
>>66807832
>>66807490
>>66807395
>>66806901
>>66806818
>File name says it all.
But in all seriousness I chose several drivers related to Montoya in some way for this: either was going to replace him, were teammates or had raced at McLaren.
>hamlelton
JUST
>>66805711
>Nazi Helmet on table
BASED
IT'S RACE TIME
IT'S THE CHINNEEZ GRON PROCK
>>66810302
That's a WW1 helmet there buddy.
>>66810302
>Nazi Helmet
>>66810323
Go home Crofty you're drunk.
Where is the Bingo?
Is Texasfag Dead?
>>66810350
>>66810402
S-Sorry.
>>66810472
He wasn't here for Bahrain either.
Im starting to get worried ;_;
>Hamilton gets a grid penalty because Bottas broke his gearbox
feels good desu, based Valtteri
>>66810472
I thought he was a Poland?
>>66810488
>check-em
>>66810302
>Pickelhaube
>Nazi Helmet
It's Prussian you Anglo-Saxon subhuman scum
>>66810561
>>Pickelhaube
That's not a pickle, it's a hat, you putrid kraut.
>>66810682
That's not a hat... THAT's a hat!
>>66808731
That's not autism bro, that's properly researched data with appropriate conclusions. Don't let anyone tell you any different.
How does the HAM penalty affect our BADGERbux?
>>66810725
Thanks kiwibro
>>66810508
Williams' starts so far are truly saving F1
>Massa holding up Hamilton
>Bottas hitting Hamilton
Based Frank doing what must be done
http://www.grandprix247.com/2016/04/14/herbert-sainz-is-smarter-than-verstappen
>“Both are very good and very fast,” Herbert told the Spanish sports newspaper Marca. “As I said before, they’re the future. I think Carlos is smarter than Verstappen, I see him using his head better, perhaps because Max is younger, but both are very good.”
>“But looking ahead, if I had to sign one of the two, I would choose Sainz. If the decision is taken by Helmut Marko then I don’t know what will happen, because sometimes his decisions with the drivers are a bit strange,” Herbert said.
he's at it again lads
>>66810741
I'm switching from HAMROSVET to ROSVETRAI
>>66810741
>>66811669
HAR HUL ERI imo
>KMag and Jolyon went to a nightclub instead of the drivers' dinner
absolutely ladsy
>>66811670
dubs to confirm this pls
>>66811669
>implying he won't just come back through the field to second
I went with ROSHAMVET
>>66811748
I just want Gimi to be on the podium, is that too much to ask? I know another win probably is...
>>66811748
If Ferrari don't blow it I doubt HAM can even get 3rd. Then again Ferrari blow it in some capacity every race.
It's unfortunate that Hamilton's penalty comes at a track like Shanghai where there is a 1.2 KILOMETER straight, half of which is a DRS zone , meaning that he's going to be able to overtake easily.
He will still finish on the podium.
ROS VET HAM - RAI will have another issue
Haas will pull a mystical P4 and the murrikan hype will reach unpleasant levels
When was the last Ferrari 1-2 finish anyways?
>>66811798
Bahrain FP3 :^)
>>66811748
>>66811779
He will come through easily but I doubt he will get second. You saw what happened to Kimi after like 2 laps of overtaking in Bahrain. He was around 7th at worst and made his way back up in a few laps and he was already a straight down on Rosberg. China is also a track where if you don't overtake during the DRS zones then you're pretty much stuck behind the other car for half the lap of technical autism that's going to cost a lot of time.
If both Ferraris have a flawless race they will both end on the podium. I just wouldn't bet any money on Ferrari not having problems. At least one of them is going to DNF or Kimi will choke (most likely) and Ham will get P3 despite being 20 seconds behind Rosberg just by virtue of every other team being so shit
It's also nice to see Mercedes have some mechanical issues for once. Did they even receive any grid penalties last season?
>>66811798
FERNANDO IS FASTER THAN YOU, 2010.
>>66811780
Wait when/why did Hamilton get a penalty? I haven't been around for a week or two
>>66811840
his gearbox was damaged when based Valtteri ploughed into his car
>>66811820
>He was around 7th at worst and made his way back up in a few laps and he was already a straight down on Rosberg.
Rosberg was massively cruising all race and Hamilton had a boatload of damage from his collision with Bottas. On full power and with no damage, there's no way Hamilton isn't going to get past both Ferraris eventually, especially since they still haven't solved their straight line harvesting issues. Ferrari are closer, but they're not going to be close enough until Spain and they're not very strong on the straights right now.
It's also a tier 1 track for Hamilton.
>>66811828
Holy shit that's literally embarrassing for Ferrari.
>>66811840
Gearbox
Bottas fucked his Gearbox up at the Start in Bahrain
>>66811828
I'm so glad this faggot left Ferrari. God tier driver, god tier cunt
>>66811854
>It's also a tier 1 track for Hamilton.
Not always.
>>66811906
True, but that was his first time at the track and McLaren kept him out on garbage tyres for far too long.
>>66811912
I was more bringing it up for the schadenfreude.
>>66811849
>>66811867
>gets hit in sidepod
>Brokengearboxlol
If the Merc is really that fragile, we might actually see some DNFs this year.
>>66811906
>>66811912
>>66811920
Friendly reminder that that gravel trap has been removed
>>66811906
>McLaren tyre """""""""strategy"""""""""""
>>66812005
Didn't stop Maldonado.
>>66811986
AMuS wrote that a Bearing in the rear Diff got damaged. They said that Mercedes told Hamilton that it might still do 600Km in the best case or 100Km in the worst case
>>66812005
I'm not sure why either. It's the perfect little error punisher and is no means "d-d-d-dangerous".
>>66811906
>>66812042
>It's the perfect little error punisher
This is why it was removed.
>Sheffield University study ranking is: Fangio, Prost, Alonso, Clark, Senna, Stewart, Piquet, Fittipaldi, Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton cont'd
sennafags mad :^)
>COTA now so bumpy that even GT drivers say it's difficult to drive, TV-visible bumps in major braking zones etc, a driver stating "I don't know what the F1 guys are going to do when they get here"
Is F1 at COTA kill? One of the bumps looked so big that it would probably bottom out a F1 car. Doubt they have the time or money to repave the whole circuit or anything, and the problem isn't even in the track itself, it's in the ground below which has been severely affected by the heavy rains etc.
At least the Chinese had the common sense to build their track on a massive concrete platform because even they realized it's not smart to build a racetrack on soggy shit
>>66812329
>muh research analysis
This shit is laughable every time anyone tries it.
>>66812336
>Hamilton turns into the corner
>bump unsettles his car, throwing him into a wall
Career ending injury in America, it's like pottery.
>>66812329
Would love to see the methology of this ""study""
>Schumacher that low
>Piquet (as based as he is but come on) above Schumacher
>FITTIPALDI above Schumacher
>le ultimate carbabby meme driver racing against a field of amateurs, of which almost no proper footage exists, certainly no full races or seasons, no. 1 as always
Fucking Faggio
Prost is a better race driver than Senna. Senna was probably the greatest qualifier of all time but Prost was overall better even without his stat-padding Williams season
>>66812368
To be fair, Emmo is by far the most underrated of the pre-80s drivers, but the rest is a joke, as you hinted.
was just pumping out a hot steamy log and the first thing on my mind was /f1/
>>66812329
>piquet and fittipaldi that high
>will stevens that low
s m h f a m
>>66812368
Apparently if you remove Schuey's 2010-2012, and only consider first career, then he ranks 3rd, after Fangio and Prost.
On the face of it, it appears to be very result-oriented.
The same study 'concludes' that the team is 6 times more valuable than the driver, as a factor in success.
Thus, I'd assume the fact that Fangio got carbabbied by 4 different teams helps, since he appears to be more of a differentiating factor. Schumacher would lose out due to most of his success being at Ferrari. This last bit is my own assumption, though.
>>66812378
That is true. Both him and Piquet are pretty underrated in general, especially since Senna basically erased them from Brazilian F1 history.
It's weird how Senna was treated as like the savior of Brazil, finally bringing them international glory in F1 (and the Senna documentary further propagates this) despite the fact that Brazilians had already won FIVE championships before Senna won his first one. In fact the previous champion prior to Senna was fucking Piquet lol.
Fucking huemonkeys
>>66811640
He's not wrong
>>66812445
I'm not saying he is
Dubs and rosbeta crashes in the first corner.
>>66811828
>tfw 2010 was 6 (six) years ago
>>66812462
Dubs and RWL.
>>66800460
dubs and Dubs will win
>>66812524
get with the times lad
laal
>>66811640
Herbert's opinion is so irrelevant. Plus he's talking to Spanish press so obviously he's not gonna say yea ur boi is shit and getting BTFO by a dude who is overshadowing Carlos so hard that it might cost him the longevity of his career in this sport
Kind of a shame for Sainz (and Kvyat to a lesser extent) that his career might get somewhat ruined by Verstappen being the goldenboy despite Sainz being a very competent driver and had one of the better rookie seasons in recent memory.
Sainz might actually be a better qualifier than Verstappen but Verstappen is more showy and his car control is basically on a level that can't really be "learned". I mean the guy still races carts for fun and does nothing but think about racing all day. It's like those Asian kids who become world class pianists or violinists because their entire childhood has been nothing but practice to the detriment of basically every other aspect of their life. Couple that sort of forced dedication with a bit of natural talent and you end up on a level which is basically just inherently natural to you and almost impossible for others to reach.
why is f1 so ABH this year
>>66812558
>those legs
>>66812562
I mean what's going to happen to Sainz and Kvyat? Verstappen is too hot to let go and he must get the Red Bull seat. Ricciardo isn't going to be replaced because he is now the leading driver and seems to handle it pretty well. Kvyat, go back to Toro Rosso? Is that even possible, also very embarrassing. Can Sainz even stay at TR for another year? The grid seems relatively stable right now anyway. Maybe Massa will retire but I don't think he will, and his seat will probably be looked at by everyone from Perez to Nasr to Sainz etc. Maybe the Alfa Romeo deal happens but even then, I doubt they'll touch Red Bull Junior Program drivers. Force India is another option but they seem pretty keen on keeping their current lineup if the team doesn't go bankrupt altogether.
I guess they could take a sabbatical but it's obviously not easy to bounce back from that. Plus the question still remains of where would they go. GP2, GP3, Red Bull Jr. program etc are pumping out good drivers ready for F1 all the time. Sainz and Kvyat don't really have anywhere to go unless Renault drops their drivers or if Kimi's retirement sets some stuff into motion.
>>66812563
>ABH
arty buttholes?
>>66812614
Verstappen doesn't need to be rushed into the top RB team for 2017. He has plenty of maturing to do and plenty of time to do it. With RB currently scrapping at the top of the midfield, the last thing they need is a hotheaded, troublesome driver.
Alonso not running this GP
Doctors want more tests after 4 hours
>>66812563
he's the niggest on the grid
>>66812081
This footage of Ron Benis freaking out is why they have the Autism Box now, isn't it? To hide him when he needs to sperg out?
>>66810302
>
>>66812653
I agree. Him an his dad surely don't though. The thing is that his contract supposedly is for 2 years at Toro Rosso with a 1 year option to extend at Red Bull. He is also managed by Joss the Boss who clearly wants him in a good car. If this is true, then assuming he doesn't get the RB drive, then he is essentially free to shop around. I doubt anyone from Red Bull really wants this because he's more or less their new Vettel, unless they have supreme confidence towards Ricciardo (who is good but is he THAT good really?).
I'm sure Max will take a 3rd year at Toro Rosso but that's obviously not his no. 1 choice.
Plus from Red Bull's perspective, you really have to consider if Kvyat is really that good of a driver that he's worth it to keep even if it means potentially losing Verstappen. A very decisive season for him and he really needs to start matching or beating Ricciardo very shortly if he wishes to keep his seat. He's already been under fire from Marko throughout the last season so he is obviously on very thin ice. Starting from P15 and stuff really doesn't help his cause either.
I'm not amd amx dicksucking here, it's just what is happening and he's impressed enough people for everyone to know he is a desired driver for the future.
>>66812614
I think at least one of those two drivers is going to be out of F1 soon. Even if they might be good enough, Red Bull's overall program works in such a way that you're going to look bad if you're not winning the teammate battle, and perception is everything in this sport, regardless of what teams might occasionally say about their data analysis. That said, in my eyes Sainz looks too panicky and prone to making mistakes, while Kvyat's maximum pace isn't great and he's currently struggling just as much as Vettel was in 2014.
>Can Sainz even stay at TR for another year?
No reason not to, since the maximum "term" for an STR driver is 3 years.
>Maybe Massa will retire but I don't think he will
He might, after seeing just how bad this year's car is and how lacking in competence the team still is. Problem is, if that happens, there's no way the seat's going to go to any RB rejects, even if either of them might be better than the alternatives.
>Force India is another option but they seem pretty keen on keeping their current lineup if the team doesn't go bankrupt altogether.
This stubbornness is hurting them pretty badly, to be honest. At least Perez is bringing in considerable amounts of cash and can make odd strategies work very well, but they could really use a faster driver than Hulkenberg.
>unless Renault drops their drivers
This isn't very unlikely, as neither of them are very good. Palmer's alarmingly close to KMag at the moment, which should not be happening.
>>66812742
>Ricciardo (who is good but is he THAT good really?)
At this point, it's safe to say that he's at least one of the current top 4 drivers. Barring his occasional lap 1 cluelessness, his pace, control and aggression are all top notch, and the current set of regulations clearly suit him well.
singles and rosbergwinslol
>>66812745
perez has been quite poor in the first two races - needs to step it up.
>>66812800
I know, but at least he has significant sponsorship and allows for more strategic variety, which means he's not the first on the chopping block if it comes to that. Hulk may be faster, but even right now it's not by much, and it's not really saying something when Perez is slow to begin with.
Personally I'd get rid of both and Fernley as well, but then that wouldn't even be Force India anymore.
>>66812821
saying anything*
Toro rosso will probably be a great place to be in 2017 with even more aero focus and them having a brand new ferrari engine
>>66812821
Fernley seems to have done a good job, considering the cash flow issues they've consistently had over the last 3 years. Last year's development was excellent.
I'm actually surprised they seem to be so slow this year. At the end of last season, they were easily 5th best, and looking like competing for 4th.
I just want someone to buy it off Mallya and Subroto Roy, before VJ gets sent to prison too.
Maybe Tata could buy it and rename it Jaguar.
>FIA says @alo_oficial is instructed "to undergo a further examination immediately following FP1
>>66812821
Why would you want to get rid of Fernley though? He seems to be the saving grace of the team.
Maybe this weekend we will see an actual representative performance from the Force Indias. They should honestly be up there in the top 10 at the very least.
Force India isn't going anywhere though and I think Hulkenberg knows this. He also knows that he won't get a seat anywhere else that's better (maybe Williams but I doubt it and supposedly there's some bad blood between them anyway). I've said it before but WEC is calling for him and he is going to end up there sooner or later.
>>66813032
>Provisionally cleared
>>66812614
sainz and verstappen don't have to go anywhere. gasly is the only red bull junior with the experience to step up to f1 and he has not won in gp2 yet.
kvyat came home well last year, got a points finish last weekend and i'd expect better qualifying results this weekend given that the elimination system has been removed.
>>66813183
Gasly a shit anyway and nothing so far indicates that it's even worth it to invest in his future in F1
Don't really know much about his financial backings etc though
>>66812742
>The thing is that his contract supposedly is for 2 years at Toro Rosso with a 1 year option to extend at Red Bull.
iirc all the toro rosso drivers sign contracts with red bull racing and are loaned back to toro rosso, so a
>lulu getting a 5 place grid penalty
I got happy after reading that,but then I remembered it won't do much of a difference. Maybe Bottas will crash into him,saving the day once again. Bottas is so based.
>>66812558
best meme yet my dude
>>66812558
Why is wobbler in those shorts ? Did he bike to the golf court ?
>>66813211
Back up, don't say shit about Gasly. He's maybe an alien, but he's a good driver.
But, as you said, I don't see him in F1 unless Kvyat or Ricky got injured.
...Fuck, I miss JEV
>>66812614
>Maybe Massa will retire but I don't think he will, and his seat will probably be looked at by everyone from Perez to Nasr to Sainz etc.
surely alex lynn would get the first spare williams seat?
>>66813293
It's not 100% certain. Nasr has ties with Williams too, having been their test driver and having Massa's backing and similar sponsorship from Brazil.
Anyone got the F1 2015 game? Is it worth picking up?
>>66813343
yes, no
>>66813343
no, yes
>>66813343
maybe, maybe
>>66813293
Yeah with great moves like this I'm sure Williams are really keen on getting him a drive in le no downforce overtake machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7rfd35OlY
My first guess for Massa's replacement would be Nasr. He has history with Williams like >>66813319 said and carries significant backing. He also has F1 experience and has shown to not be totally shit and has performed well in comparison to his teammate and considering how terrible the Sauber is. He's also friends with Massa so I'm sure Massa will throw in a cheeky recommendation Mika-Kimi McLaren style. Williams also seem very keen on Bottas for whatever reason so they probably want a good supporting driver for him.
Williams should honestly just forego this season because it's clear that they're shit, not spend money on development and start work on 2017 and disregard the 2016 car completely and hope that their efforts land them somewhere close to the front.
Williams also has a certain affinity for Brazilian drivers ;)
>>66813343
Play 2013 if you want to play a recent game.
Grand Prix Challenge, Formula 1: Championship Edition and Formula 1 05 are the best if you want to go a bit older.
>>66813230
GOA77as is definitively the best driver on the grid
>>66813343
Kek, no
>>66813415
And GP4! ...Codemasters does a survey 2 months ago about F1 2016. Let's hope they'll follow the same path as DiRT, but I doubt it.
>>66813343
Honestly, having played AMS for a while and comparing it with the past CM F1 games, yes, it's worth it, but only when it's discounted. The AI is the best in the extended genre even with how iffy it occasionally is while attacking, and while the career mode is shallow and there's no safety car, the races themselves are usually pretty good. The handling model's okay too, certainly less ridiculous than the easy mode infinite grip of 2013.
>>66806818
If you refer to the McLaren I think it was due to the stiffness of Newey designs and an engine that literally blowed up when it could. Otherwise, the other only championship tier car he drove was the 2003 Williams and when he had an actual chance Bridgestone moved their levers and forced Michelin to change the width of the front tires, so the car turned out understeery iirc.
>>66813415
2013 is decent, but has so many flaws. Tire deg is one of the most frustrating things because there is very little you can do to affect it. And it also doesn't affect the AI seemingly at all so when you are on red undrivable tires at lap 7 and pit, the AI continues with the same tires and sets fastest laps and pits a lap or two later despite that being literally impossible no matter how carefully you drive.
Also no matter how fast and well you drive, if you let an AI past (especially VWL) they will magically find ridiculous laptimes that are close to quali poles and magically attain top speeds that are faster than you with Rich fuel mode and DRS open and the game makes it incredibly difficult to actually have a proper battle because the AI will just run away with it in a matter of 1 or 2 corners. This is on the hardest difficulty setting.
The difficulty settings are also a bit annoying because the expert or 2nd hardest mode is so easy that you can get pole by like a second or more on every track but the legend mode is so difficult in the races because what I described above ends up happening.
>>66813524
>the AI continues with the same tires and sets fastest laps and pits a lap or two later despite that being literally impossible no matter how carefully you drive.
Just pit earlier and more often. So long as you have enough tyres, you should be able to make up most of the time by doing so. 2013 heavily encourages going maximum hotlap mode.
>>66813547
Yeah if you do full distance races which I don't because my autism isn't strong enough to race for like 1.5 hours
>>66813564
Even on 50% it still applies though. It's only on 25% or less that it doesn't, because everything is scripted for the player there so the game's main unrealistic mechanics get overridden by other unrealistic ones instead.
So how long until Hamilton starts to rage? It's been a long time coming and you can almost sense his frustration.
>"got a grid penalty but it doesn't matter because i'm so ENERGIZED by my DEDICATED FANS"
>oh btw hehe i'm WORLD FUCKING CHAMPION
Nico will soon have a solid 25 point lead on him.
>yfw Mercedes activates a secret engine mode for Rosberg that causes a DNF while Hamilton wins and negates the points advantage completely in one race
>>66813603
Didn't Secondberg have a 25 point lead last year due to a dnf from Hamilton?
What would the grid look like if the teams could be more creative or colorful with their liveries? Reiza's redone liveries for AMS look, in some cases, so much better than the originals that it feels sad.
lewd quali incoming lads
>>66813789
vettelwinslol
>>66813789
ricciardowinslol
>>66813789
everyonecrashesandmassasomehowwinsdespitespinningfivetimesagainlol
>>66813789
>implying the Chinese govt. aren't going to shoot rockets into the clouds and make them rain prematurely elsewhere due to a major international sporting event
Actually I don't know if they do it in Shanghai but in Beijing they do, at least when I lived there. Every single time a major international political figure was visiting, suddenly blue skies and perfect weather, followed by horrible smog and rain as soon as they're gone. Same with the olympics, the whole time almost perfect weather which is basically unheard of in Beijing and horrible shit aftewards and beforehand. It's quite amazing to live in a place where the government literally has the capability to control the weather lol
>>66813847
never winning a race again lad
>>66813789
audiwinslol
CHRISTIAN FITTIPALDI CONFIRMED ONE OF THE GOATS
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274080402_Formula_for_success_Multilevel_modelling_of_Formula_One_Driver_and_Constructor_performance_1950-2014
>>66813875
Chebby wins lol
>>66813860
this desu
Also China is probably the least suitable track for Red Bull and they never even won there during their total domination years. Well Vettel won in 2009 but that wasn't a dominant year really.
>>66813884
and emerson is bankrupt, kek.
>>66813884
alonsowinslol
>>66812368
>Clay Reggazoni above Niki Lauda
When will this "Alonso is the best driver on the grid" meme die?
>>66811858
>Holy shit that's literally embarrassing for Ferrari.
or Alonso
can't wait for qualifying lads
i've got a semi just thinking about it
>>66814121
When Britain stops being F1's biggest and most vocal demographic.
>>66814148
It's not really on him though. He won a bunch at Ferrari it's just that Massa was nowhere most of the time
>>66814121
When Alonso dies, which might very well be in a couple of days time. He will repeat the same move except this time at the end of the straight at 350 km/h
>>66814121
He is though.
>>66814299
lmao no
>>66814214
Nah mate, not gonna happen. These days the run off areas are as big as the straights itself.
>>66814299
Sorry Spainfriend, but no.
>>66813343
50/50
>>66811874
He knows ho to be an asshole properly. I admire that
So how shit are Foreskindia now? I think McLelren will score more points this season
>>66812866
I don't think Tata are willing to buy an F1 team right after selling their uk steel business.
It'd be a PR disaster
>>66815023
They're as good as they deserve to be, as in not very.
Predicting more pointless finishes than finishes in the points this season.
Teams 100% confirmed ahead of FI
>Mercedes
>Ferrari
>Red Bull
>Toro Rosso
>Haas
>McLaren (maybe)
>Williams
Teams that will probably surpass Force India once in-season development really kicks in
>McLaren
>Renault
>Manor??
Force India might legitimately end up the 2nd or 3rd worst team on the grid, especially now that they don't have money and don't have any big developments planned. I don't know anything about Manor's budget or development plans but if they can keep developing their car, I would not be surprised to see them be faster than Force India.
>>66815159
I suppose that's true. Just wishful thinking on my part
>>66812329
I love Senna but I dont give a fuck, i'm just happy cheatmaker was put on his place finnaly.
>look up 2016 bahrain gp to see where hülk qualified
top kek belgium
>>66815408
And Piquet should be higher t b h
They didnt take his car building skills into account for sure
>>66815421
haha nice
>>66812445
He is. In terms of racing intelligence, Verstappen trumps Sainz. It's why you usually see Sainz go faster in the start of the practice session, but it's usually Verstappen who improves over the weekend.
>>66810741
i had him winning, pole, and fastest lap before the penalty
t. fantasy league leader
>>66815931
Is this that racoonGP or something? You guys have a /f1/ league?
>>66813789
verstappenwinslol
>>66807865
Rosbergwinslol
>>66807865
vettelwinslol
>>66807865
Firstberg first
VET and HAM crash each out into turn 1
RAI retirement
RIC and MAS on podium
double points for Haas
>>66800460
Man those McLarens were beautiful
>@LewisHamilton was in good form today. He thought it was hilarious that 17 F1 drivers paid for their share of dinner with 17 credit cards
lel
Drivers' Press Conference, Chinese GP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEtvdrBd_ag
WEW
Direct translation:
>Alonso, who cummed in Australia, returns to the track in Shanghai
>>66815408
>cheatmaker
Literally why?
Schumacher did nothing wrong (except Monaco '06)
>inb4 Adelaide
Hill was behind, not his corner
>inb4 Jerez
There were unpunished precedents
>>66816572
MSCIDF do we really have to do this again? Cheatmaker is just a le funny meme anyways
>Jerez
Literally cheating
>>66807865
Rosberg has an engine failure, Hamilton botches the start and gets stuck behind Ricciardo for too long.
VET-RAI-HAM
>>66816617
I was just pretending to be retarded :^)
MSCIDF is also pretty much a meme at this point.
Agreed about Jerez, the man himself admitted it was one of his very few regrets.
>>66816617
Why he even tried it will always be way beyond me. Even Villeneuve admitted that he saw it coming from a mile away and decided to bait him into it by going into the corner so hard that he wouldn't have made it without Schumacher hitting him. It was the most predictable move in the world.
>>66816430
Who /Haas/ here?
>>66812386
How'd the inspection go?
>>66814322
>>66814711
It has been scientifically proven (>>66813884). Stop trying to desperately debate objective facts.
>>66816824
USA! USA! USA!
The new tarmac of the Hungaroring is finally ready.
This is the first time since 1986 when all of it is in the same condition.
Charlie Whiting was satisfied although he requested a few minor changes.
>>66814148
He can't drive both cars.
>>66817164
I genuinely think Alonso's crashes have permanently made him a worse driver.
>>66817399
>tfw jenson is unscathed
feel a bit bad for alonso though.
>>66817185
>greentexting on a chinese cartoon website versus mathematically proven facts
Umm, I choose the latter thanks.
>>66817773
>mathematically proven
You know, you can prove just about anything mathematically if you take enough arbitrary markers as reference points.
>>66817773
>Japanese cartoon**
Too many variables for math to be accurate. In a formula series driver skill is almost always subjective. If everything was 100% equal then we might know for sure.
In something like soccer the variables other than the player are small enough to be negligible but that's not the case in motorsports.
Mad max is overrated though
He's what happens when you take one of those promising young drivers that would or should be in gp3 and skip that and throw them into F1 in a decent car and with a former f1 driver as your coach/dad
He's not spectacularly fast, isn't blowing Sainz out of the water and is probably not going to be any less inconsistent and erratic for years. Only thing he's undoubtedly good at is overtaking.
It's part ok he's decent let's give him a go, and part PR.
>>66818025
Are you serious? He is eons better than Sainz
>>66818025
'Probably' doesn't mean 'likely' though, and he's definitely got better pace and aggression than Sainz. They're both clumsy, but Sainz really shouldn't spilling spaghetti everywhere anymore.
The PR's definitely there though, and it's boring beyond belief. All I'm currently seeing is a youngling who is better than another youngling, one which happens to constantly make a lot of mistakes while often being covered by the car's exceptional maximum pace.
Max will be fine once he leaves Red Bull. The last thing he needs right now is to be ruined by Marko and Horner even more than his father already has. The real problem for him is that Carlos is so anonymous that I don't see him staying in F1 past 2017, and once he drops out, the PR facade is likely to fall apart very quickly.
>>66818137
bruh, sainz had ridiculously bad luck last season.he retired from points-paying positions so many times.
imo verstappen and sainz are like a shittier version of senna and prost - amx/ayrton is the more popularly rated, quicker in quali, arrogant as balls. carlos/alain have a more technical mind and are calmer and smoother in their driving and have an approach that ends up being quicker
although i rate prost very much more highler vs senna than i do sainz vs verstappen
>>66818137
Then why don't the stats reflect that?
>>66817938
>In a formula series driver skill is almost always subjective
For who? The fan sure. Teams however must have telemetry data on drivers crunched to give them a "driver score" metric. There is a reason Kimi is still at Ferrari and Hulkenberg is going to be fired from F1 within a few years.
https://twitter.com/RHaryantoracing/status/718127165892534273
what the frick
>>66818137
I didn't say he wasnt, but for all the hype he should be destroying him, or at least you'd think he was, and he isn't. Instead he cries, and spins when he can't pass him, but we still say "amd amx to Mercedes when?"
>>66818202
The bad luck doesn't make up the points difference, nor does it take away from his countless small mistakes, such as getting the pit entry completely wrong several times last year, or being clumsy in every way imaginable in Australia this year.
>calmer and smoother
>Carlos
I wish.
>>66818206
They do?
>>66818209
>must have telemetry data
That data has blown up in their face so much over the last few years that it's hard to take seriously. You never know everything there is to know about other teams' cars, nor do you know what each driver is best suited to or how fast they can be in a number of situations.
And then there's the whole topic of struggling with cars that don't suit you but being ludicrously fast in cars that do (Vettel) vs being able to extract a lot out of any type of car but having less maximum pace or worse car development input (Alonso), which absolutely is subjective.
>>66818303
>>calmer and smoother
>>Carlos
>I wish.
I mean, Sainz obviously doesn't hold a candle to Prost, but Verstappen has a much more erratic driving style, akin to 2012 Grosjean maybe, whereas Sainz is perhaps closer to a Hulkenberg
When is the Team principal conference?
>>66818303
If they can use telemetry to tell a driver how to go faster, (which they do), then they can use it to measure how good or bad a driver is in said car.
>>66818217
Indonesian GP confirmed.
>>66818630
What about all the factors that affect one's ability to drive the car? Do you seriously think 2014 is an accurate representation of Ricciardo vs. Vettel? Do you not think there's a possibility that say, in the RB9, Vettel would be faster?
>>66818652
he won't be on the grid by then.
>>66818604
After fp1 I think
>>66817399
Of course they have. It happens with almost every driver, it's just that no one ever admits it until much later when they're retired. It would be career suicide to ever admit that you are noticeably worse after a crash, which is why everyone says it's not a big deal etc.
>Piquet admitted he was shit after his crash and could no longer judge depth/distance properly so his breaking points were all total guesses (Piquet also assumes this is what happened with Massa)
>Berger said that after his big crash at Imola he was never the same in terms of commitment. Still a good driver but not like 100% all the time, willing to take crazy risks
Mansell said something similar as well. Actually most retired top drivers who had big crashes say the same because it is simply human nature. I mean if you run and you fall over and have no idea why it happened or what could have prevented it and break your leg, you're not going to run with the same sort of commitment and confidence immediately after you leg is healed, because that would be insane.
>>66818782
>Do you seriously think 2014 is an accurate representation of Ricciardo vs. Vettel?
How the fuck do you come up with these words to put in my mouth with what I typed?
>>66818900
Thanks based Senna
>>66819076
I'm certain there are quite a few of these sorts of things with current or recently retired older generation drivers. Stuff like
>Kimi's back affecting his performance at least in 2014. I mean he skipped part of the season to get a back operation, which is not a minor thing, and then had a massive crash like 6 months later. He or the media never talk about this but I'm sure it's had some effect on him
>Alonso's crashes affecting his total confidence along with the failures of his careers post-2006, probably not quite the same driver as he was back in Renault/McLaren in terms of pure performance
>Massa's problems are obvious, stemming both from the psychological and physiological effects of his crash (and losing the championship). He seems to finally be alright but even then, his pace really isn't the same as it was at his true peak
>Webber's shunts throughout his career
Only retrospectively do drivers ever admit a degradation in their own performance, and this only happens if they have a manageable ego. Alonso is never going to admit that he isn't the same as the WDC Alonso.
>>66818303
>>66818474
Just get Sainz and Verstappen some regulations where you can actually push and one mistake doesn't destroy your tires for the rest of the stint and they would perform excellently. I just don't think that's going to happen anytime soon lol.
I think Sainz has a lot of improvement to do but the raw pace is there. He keeps Verstappen honest when it comes to quali, now if he could just step up his racecraft a bit then he would be quite a strong driver. I mean his racecraft is already pretty good and very good for a rookie, it's just that he needs to develop into a proper driver from there. Most of his spaghetti has come from situations in which Max is behind and being an autist on the radio as well. Verstappen is all about pushing and has shown he doesn't really know how to look after tires properly, and the times he's complained about Sainz are just based on his own confidence of being able to overtake, which may or may not actually be true.
Verstappen's overtakes have been cool and eyecatching but many or most of them have been on slower cars, cars with worse tires (e.g. Nasr who literally pitted right after Max's Blanchimont overtake, making the whole move basically a useless risk), or because he himself is out of position. Max has also had numerous unscheduled pitstops because he was unable to follow strategy and ended up destroying his tires overtaking and battling.
Sainz is also much more mature out of the car and seemingly has the capacity to still learn, whereas Verstappen is already convinced he is le tulip senna and doesn't need to learn anything from anything anymore.
>>66819176
>only happens if they have a manageable ego.
Kimi should not have this problem.
He hardly talks even to his own doctor i'm sure.
>>66819400
Are you me?
This is exactly what I feel.
While I think Max may be faster than Sainz in this moment, I think Sainz has a lot more potential. He is very honest in admiting his mistakes and is willing to learn and improve.
Max looks like he thinks he is GOAT and anyone is just slower. Carlos is going to become a much better driver in a very short time, and Max will make some stupid movement once and have a bad crash that will kill his confidence and make him go slower.
Or maybe not.
Both are promising.
I'm looking to buy a new phone /f1/. Android or iOS?
I tried to look for those Ferrari Motorolas but they don't make it anymore
>>66820022
ios is restrictive af. get an android phone with at least 2gb ram. NOT samsung.
>>66820022
buy a windows phone
>>66819400
>Verstappen is all about pushing and has shown he doesn't really know how to look after tires properly
It was actually Sainz that had to pit earlier in AUS because of locking up too much and not looking after his tires properly.
>whereas Verstappen is already convinced he is le tulip senna and doesn't need to learn anything from anything anymore.
>>66819923
>Max looks like he thinks he is GOAT and anyone is just slower.
I understand you can't follow Dutch interviews be he isn't like that at all.
It's not him who's already convinced it's all the media around him claiming all this le next senna stuff, since F1 has become quite boring it's no surprise a lot of media has jumped on this young guy making some good overtakes. Every shit reporter starts with "SO WHEN U FERARRI OR MERCEDES?"
>>66820183
But all F1 drivers and Engineers use iPhones
>>66820383
Never again m8
>>66820641
if they all decided to crash their car into the wall at tamburello, would you?
>>66820387
Yeah I was not particularly referring to Australia. Supposedly both of them pitted prematurely anyway as they were still lapping faster than the other cars around them when they declared their tires finished and pitted.
And yea I agree the media has a big part to do with it. I mean it's pretty cringey to call a 17 year old "Senna-like" to his face and praise him for every move he ever does. I mean that can go to anyone's head pretty easily. I'm sure he'll mature when he's in his 20's. Vettel was pretty terrible back in the day and even someone like Alonso has learned to be relatively humble. Hamilton on the other hand has just gone totally the different direction lol, I think he was less arrogant and more down to earth during his first 2 years in the sport.
>>66820944
>Hamilton on the other hand has just gone totally the different direction lol, I think he was less arrogant and more down to earth during his first 2 years in the sport.
Apparently his Dad and Ron Dennis were holding him back in those days.
>>66820387
>It's not him who's already convinced
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/verstappen-doesn-t-care-about-toro-rosso-team-orders-681315/?s=1&q=verstappen
>Verstappen thinks it is ultimately irrelevant whether or not his bosses abandon any future orders.
>"To be honest I don't know and I don't care," he said, when asked if position swapping was now off the table in the future.
>"Normally I should be miles ahead. It should be fine."
>"Normally I should be miles ahead."
>miles ahead.
>>66821279
Believe what you want but I think that's just him being a buttmad baby after Australia.
He did apologize to the team for his behaviour.
